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OLAADEGBU:
Did you say that this 'certain spirit' is a life force? If so then it is different from the Personality that is the Holy Spirit. For the Holy Spirit is a Person.

mikeczay:
how does it worj

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MoiettMartins:
What happens in the night?

benodic:
as the journey of soul continues, for those who have heard the call of soul, preparations for their journey back to God has already been put in place even before their present lifetime. and once the student of life is ready to make that journey, the master appears.
no force in the universe can stop this meeting between the seeker and the master. the real spiritual education takes place in the inner worlds where soul can more easily absorb truth without the encumbrances of the mind and its passions. all the time spent in the different religions, time spent in reading tons of books on truth, time spent in praying all through the night and fasting and beseeching on God to reveal its truth to you has been leading up to this one moment. that is the moment when the seeker stands face to face with the master.

benodic:
Spiritual Mastership is not a privilege or the prerogative of a few souls but rather it is the divine right of all souls. so how do you recognize the spiritual master? He is one who teaches you how to become a spiritual master yourself. he is one who shows you how to recognize yourself as soul a divine spark of God.

He is one who teaches you both in the physical plane and also in the inner planes. He is one who links you up with the ECK, the Holy Spirit which opens your heart to all truth. he does not seek deification and he does not seek worship or recognition.

he does

I noticed here you meant to write "he does not" instead. Thanks.
seek for approval amongst men and does not ask for anyone to believe what he teaches.

he challenges all souls to prove for themselves the authenticity of all that he teaches and to realize truth for themselves. he is a humble clear channel for God and his duty is to show all ready souls the way back home to God. He has traveled the high road to God and has become the ECK of itself and what he has become you too can be because you are a soul, a spark of God. you only need to realize this truth.

danduchi:
you can't decide to people how to run their religion or serve their God... I like El Rufai but he has gone too far this time

jammeyboy:
i register 7 domains yesterday but i was not billed by 1and1. i went to d bank to withdrew my balance only to find dt my money is intact.
How possible is this. i checkes d whois.con record yesterday for one of them and it reflects my name.
Though still gonna check d statement of acct online before concluding.

sweetMichael:
there are called, religion of light and sound,Eckankar

..my experience to sing Hu, first of all, their believe is that when you sing Hu song,your singing a love song to the lord, mahanta the living eck master, [\quote]

Am sorry, we DO NOT worship the Mahanta, nor ANY Deity! We RESPECT Sri Harold Klemp based on the level of his spiritual attainment whereby the power of the Holy Spirit courses through him at a very high level which makes him function at par with the Holy Spirit and with God.[\quote]

[quote]I have come across many books written by Harold klemps, I yes to see my grandfather as one of the top member in eckankar,one day he took me to their eck temple, honestly I found love among them, I try the Hu song it works, [\quote]

Interestingly most religions often tend to assume that prerequisite for the love of God in there lives is only proportional to the religion they practice. You said you found love among them right?...OK all I can say is : there is no law, doctrine, etc against and above love!

[quote]my question now is,these religion, is it a living church or an occult, cos am thinking of going to their temple again, just that I want to know were am going[\quote]

Just follow your heart, it will never lead you astray...about the "cult" issue, in my small knowledge of cults, they don't build places of worship, they do all things in hiding, you can't leave once in, they burn candles,say incantations, etc. It's different in ECK. By now am sure you know "ECK" means Holy Spirit, and "ANKAR" means "the way". The ways of the Holy Spirit is dynamic indeed!

[quote]cos my grandfather,the grandmaster seems some times do something strange, people fear him, he hardly fear death,he does not believe someone will kill him, expect mahanta,some of there practice, that soul travel, the believe in their dreams,[\quote]

"Grandmaster" ke? That's a terminology mostly used in the occult perhaps... whate ever the religion you practice, should you one day stumble on the Holy Spirit and establish a LIVING relationship with it, Your granny's exploits may become a child's playto you. Didn't you read in your Holy Book that you are created IN the IMAGE and LIKENESS of GOD? Meanwhile you want to "seek first the kindom of heaven" and then all things fall into place.[\quote]

[quote]I have practice that as well, it works, sometimes before you even think of doing something fun, my grandfather will just look at you and tell you wat your planning to do, honestly speaking, those powers is wat some one will like to have, but the other way round, I wish to know about them..[\quote]

The HU is not a function of some Underground effort by ECKANKAR, neither does it belong to them alone. If the truest God exist out there, then the HU exists along side that God. Just like the sun exists out here and no one should claim it's ownership. The HU exists to help Souls like you and I and ANYONE else raise their consciousness into the higher ones, and miracles,protection against the crudest of darkness, solace in times of grief, happiness etc are some of the result of its usage. If all these 'miracle' seekers know of it...perhaps they'll all be using it.

[quote]some should help please before my grandfather converts me to his believe. thank you, may they blessings be.

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[b]How Michael Became a Seeker[b][/b]
By Sri Harold Klemp

Michael, a young African of twenty-two, is another example of someone meeting an ECK Master years before finally coming into Eckankar.

He'd suffered all kinds of financial setbacks. In addition, he also grappled with a serious health problem: his eyesight was failing. His relatives thought him a handsome and a clever young man, albeit poor. His father was ill, and the family was poor like Michael. He'd developed a deep concern. He did not wish to be a burden on others, so he offered up a prayer to God.

He pleaded, "God, please take me from this vale of tears. I have had as much as I can take of this physical world." He repeated this prayer nightly.

Then one night he was lifted from his body, perhaps in a similar way as Paul, the apostle, who said he had known a man caught up even unto the third heaven. Michael's own Soul Travel experience began like this: He'd fallen asleep on his bed and in the next moment awakened in a whole different world. It was such a beautiful realm! The temperature felt just right, and an enormous amount of light illuminated the entire landscape. Everything shone with a refreshing goodness, alive with love and compassion.

"I like this place," he decided. "I'd like to stay."

Two men stepped from a nearby hut. One wore a thick black beard and would do all the talking for both of them. Much later, long after this experience, Michael would come to recognize him as the great ECK Master Rebazar Tarzs. But for the moment, he had no inkling of this man's identity or even of the location of this enchanted land.

The black-bearded one said, "Why are you here?"

Michael replied, "I'm here because I'm sick of earth and this is a nice place. I think I'd like to stay here with you." He explained his prayer to God and added, "I've been praying to God to get me away from earth, and it looks as if it's worked. I think I'd like to stay."

Michael looked around at the sparkling blue sky. Then he noticed a light shining from the little hut, a blue light. It appeared to originate from no identifiable source. It rather seemed to flow from everywhere at once. Quite unknown to him, it was the Light of God, often seen as the Blue Light of the Mahanta.

Now the black-bearded one said, "You can't stay. You have to go back."

Michael balked. "No, I won't go back. I shall stay." He repeated all the reasons for his unquenchable desire to remain in this heavenly world of love and beauty.

However, the other said, "It's impossible. You haven't finished your mission on earth."

"That may be, but I'm not going back."

Rebazar Tarzs came over and kindly took his hand. The next thing Michael knew he was in his room again and awakening. He sat up in bed and exclaimed, "What was that?"

It's a curious thing about people who enjoy an easy life, a good living with everything handed to them without effort, sweat, or trouble. They often have no longing for God or truth.

The blue light, which Michael reported, issues from the Mental Plane, St. Paul's third heaven. The Spiritual Travelers of ECK know of different levels in heaven. However, St. Paul's statement about that fact is the lone biblical reference to it. This mention, of course, presupposed heavens one and two. Who was to say there weren't four, five, or more?

Michael was puzzled by his out-of-body experience, so he approached the parish priest with a swarm of questions like, What did his Soul-shaking experience mean? Where was this splendid land of warmth and beauty?

While in that higher world, Rebazar Tarzs had asked him, "Do you know where you are?"

The question suggested that the place did have a name to identify it. His curiosity wished for an answer. The priest would surely know.

But the priest had no idea where the place was or even what Michael's experience meant. Yet Michael gained hope from it, and he no longer asked God to remove him from this world. Whatever his purpose might be here, Michael realized it was not finished.

And so, he joined a company that for ages before him had engaged in the self-same pursuit of God. In time he would find ECK books and begin to satisfy that eternal longing.

In one such ECK book he would much later find a picture of Rebazar Tarzs. And Michael would recognize him as the very man who'd met him outside the little hut in those upper reaches of heaven.

It was then that Michael would begin to satisfy his long-standing desire to learn who and what he was.

Excerpted from Those Wonderful ECK Masters by Harold Klemp, copyright © 2005 ECKANKAR. All rights reserved.