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onlyme12:
Senate President, Bukola Saraki today eulogized the continued bilateral relationship between Nigeria and the UK, assuring that the present administration is determined to fulfill its obligations to the betterment of the nation. The Senate President while hosting the visiting British High Commissioner, Dr. Andrew Pocook in his office today commended him for reinvigorating the mutual understanding that exist between the two countries.

http://www.pijangonews.com/2015/06/photos-senate-president-receives.html

Better countries that understand the importance of democracy and not chop-chop cliques are happy for Nigerians choosing their leaders. While the shady criminals that wish to install puppets to loot the country for them are still grieving.
Such is life.

Igbonazy:
Bro i repeat, migration is Good. Its part human nature to migrate. The most succesful Race/tribes in the world are usually the migrating ones. Many Chinese migrate within China, China is almost as big as a continent. Fulanis do migrate too. Never heard Northerners discouraging them from migrating. Do you know that most Northern states were once ruled by Hausas until fulanis "bushmen" came from nowhere ,slaughtered and dethroned all of them. "Exploring tribes/race are usually the most succeful",quote me anywhere.

The question is really not anti-migration, but the wisdom to safeguard one's wealth. I have seen two silly brothers that sold their land and properties in the SE to set up a business in the north. God blessed them and they prospered in their business and became very rich, but they instead bought more land and built huge buildings in the north and did not have a hut in the SE. In the year 2000, all their houses and business was burnt to the ground just after they emptied their bank account to restock their shops. Today, one of the brothers is roaming the streets of Aba as Keke napep driver and the other is an ITC bus driver from Onitsha- Owerri. Nobody except some of us that used to know them in the north would believe they were once millionaires in this life.

cnario:
That's why we have Local Governments. But it's a pity the local governments in Nigeria have been rendered useless.

LGAs were not rendered useless, they are useless as a tier of government in Nigeria simply because they were created by northern dictators purely to facilitate the siphoning of huge federal allocations to the north. 75% of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria funded through the federation account are located in the north. If the states were allowed to create viable LGAs as stated in a federal constitution , I'm sure we will have viable and effective LGA system.

FKO81:
Alex Ekwueme dual carriageway Awka

One thing for sure, Willie Obiano insists on quality work. He also wants Anambra to start building standard dual carriage ways instead of the usual archaic single carriage roads everywhere

So being a secretary to Buhari is now something Igbo should grieve about?

IGBOSON2:
^^^Maybe if Anambra could do a little hocus-pokus and magically conjure a couple more fictitious local gov't area and ojoro population after counting everything in a census but the kitchen sink; and more importantly, if the can get the useless federal gov't and the rest of Nigeria to accept such brazenness.......then maybe Anambra can get a flyover and two or three highrise buildings like we see in the pic you attached! Never mind the fact that with all this they'd also have to contend with hordes of out of school kids, begging and prime targets for terrorist recruiters!

Bro, don't mind the ediot pretending that he does not know that Apart from big oil producing states, Kano, Lagos and Katsina in that order get the lion share of federal allocations. All out of brazen falsification of our census data.
I am happy that the north gets its way so that the south will have some sense someday. The people in the southwest believe that supporting northern agenda to spite the SE and SS is a good political strategy. We just have to reciprocate their gesture.

DevilhimseIf:
hmmmm

Yeye people. Do your worst and see if there won't be a swift and immediate retaliation.
You guys are biting more than you can chew.

Let me drive around shell camp and Woji today and eye the Yoruba owned buildings I will soon take over.

Abookis are the only ones that can do this because they own properties only in the north.

uduokirika1:
why can't dat road be a dual carriage, must all Anambra state roads be single lane?

Anyways lets hope, watch, pray and criticize constructively as the days go by

Building dual carriage ways inside Anambra cities will be very tough because people never respected the 25 meters minimum distance from the road recommended by town planning. Dualizing roads will take a lot of determination to demolish many properties built almost on the gutters along these roads.

Our best bet is to set out new Awka capital city and new Anam city with others like them to have the best form of city planning. If we do this, we can create modern cities that meet international standard. Fighting people to demolish illegal buildings they built so close to the road 30 or more years ago will be a counter productive waste of effort.

I heard 3 serious babalawos were flown from Ijebu ode to Abuja yesterday to chase out the spirit of death waiting to carry Buhari if he steps into Asp rock

Closecall:
With the principle and great qualities of the humble leader and his team nigeria will experience postive change by four years time. Let's all support him with prayers, good will and moral support. Youths be the change u want to see. Cos when He successed u will enjoy it...

Buhari may be willing to transform Nigeria, but the problem is those in APC that supported him. Many are common criminals with very corrupt history of occupying lush government positions and helping themselves with public funds. For Buhari to improve Nigeria at all talk more of transforming it with the type of shady characters supporting him in APC will be the 11th wonder of human history.

Just as Obasanjo and Abacha never stole.
Nigerian don't know what they are talking about.

@op,
I guess you imagine somehow Biafra is for Nigeria to grant by some benevolent stroke of pen?

I can tell you the issue is that 80% of Igbos have not been convinced that Biafra is the only way.They are angry and feel frustrated with the dog eat dog mess we have in this unfortunate country called Nigeria , instead of developing the county evenly, a section believe they can turn other constituent nations into slaves or hostages of some sort in Nigeria....... BUT THEY ARE STILL NOT CONVINCED BIAFRA IS THE ANSWER.

If you can somehow get an overwhelming proportion of Igbos convinced on Biafra, then you can't stop it.

iscoli:
he is going to sell cocoyam. mumu op.

Apart from CHINA, none of those countries will invest a DIME in Nigeria.
They all actually want Nigeria to have been dead yesterday.

spyder880:
I think I can do something about this, I have a classmate who runs a bureau de change inside Enugu.

Since Ethiopian airline arrives at 12:30PM 3 or 4 days a week, He can simply go there between 12PM and 1 PM on those days and hold up a sign at the arrival lounge, no need to build any big shop and pay rent.

omicron:
A tempting solution, but IMO not the best.

This thread is more than Chime.

This thread is an economic, political and developmental think-thank, that far trascends the political dispensation of Chime.

The same way we want continuity in government, let the thread continue into the Era of Ugwuanyi and beyond.

I agree with you that staying in this one thread for Enugu will not waste all the solutions and ideas posted here.This thread is indeed a great resource and it encouraged the idea to set up similar threads for other Igbo states.
Let us then make a pledge to always come here and interact as well as post Enugu related issues so that the thread does not die from inactivity as they planned. Even if they take the thread to entertainment section.

spyder880:
I so much love the design of Okpara square, Enugu. Especially the way it can park many hundreds of cars and still traffic will be flowing in Independence layout. I remember that this is a major problem in Owerri, where traffic completely stalls whenever there is a major event in the Imo conference centre.
I believe that enough provisions were made for parking cars even in our conference centre grounds, but the way many houses are being built there, I think the lands around the conference centre may have been allocated to private individuals.

Its so sad that private homes have taken over the land at the International Conference center. Some of the houses are even less than 15 meters away from the edifice!
I hope they demolish those houses when they embark on completing the edifice.
people should not be allowed to get away with crime simply because they have already built the house.

asha80:
Lol..as much as I think cjrane went a bit too far I understand where he is coming from..an experience I had in owerri 10yrs ago explains it..we were entering a viewing center and there was some disagreement btw the owner of the event center and an imsu student who obviously was and born and brought up in Lagos and his name is Igbo was from the exchanges I was hearing..then those of us who knew the owner of the place prevailed on him to allow the student want the match and a friend I was with paid for the student..then instead of the imsu student to just relax and watch match he started this small opening raking and ranting for about one minute...nobody talked to him only for him to end the raking with shouting some Yoruba sentences(like the ones you hear area boys drop at times in Lagos )..

O boy want happened next

Asha,
I am personally not against people taking pride in other African languages. I speak yoruba very well. You just have to have a good sense of person, so that you can see what is better to emulate from other cultures and what is better in your own culture than the new culture. So that you don't copy wholesale and blindly. If you cannot see anything good about yourself, then you'd be a rolling stone and object of ridicule to others. In a way our younger generation have no sense of who they are and what forces have been shaping their lives. This is what concerns me the most.

As a person, i also believe in compromise just to let things be.However, I soon realized that i had actually learned this attitude from my parents as Igbo people! I soon asked my parents and others why they had this laid-back attitude of not speaking out against evil, and they said "The War"
Then, they refused to talk about "the war". My father, a former Biafran soldier, did recommend 2 books; "Nigerian revolution and the Biafran war" by Alex Madiebo, so that i could see the true sequence of the tragic events and the dairy of Ojukwu published as " Selected speeches & random thoughts" to understand the desperation of the time and why nobody wished to recall those days in stories.I had since added Faraway in the sky, an account of an American missionary and the legendary Chinua Achebe's personal account "There was a country".

These four books are a must for our youths to get a peek into why Nigeria is how it is and why we must change the tactics we have used in reacting to this oppression that started on May 27th, 1967. Unfortunately, nobody can find the time to tell you these facts unless you disciplined yourself to read and find out for yourself. I recommend these books especially to Chino and Abagworo. It will help them understand who they are and how others see them....and most importantly how to reason in order to see they are actually on the same side!

My point is that we tend to be afraid of speaking out against what we know in our hearts to be false for fear of being disrespected, labeled "Igbotic",illiterate, "tribalistic" or worse. While our adversaries donot hesitate to play the ethnic or religion card when it suits their cause.The reason why many more Igbos died in the second pogrom was simply that naivety of thought that we are all the same, "One Nigeria" and they see me as i see them.So i can call katsina my hometown and invest all my life savings there. What tragic fallacy!
The result of the acceptance of the so called "One Nigeria" heresy carefully sculpted to appear innocent so that our people now adopt the narratives and concoctions of their enemies as solemn facts! The first pogrom against the Igbo was spontaneous following the killing of Ironsi as a punishment for the "Igbo coup" that brought him to power, while the second pogrom was planned and systemic massacre only comparable in scale to the Rwanda massacre of Tutsis. The reason why it happened so successfully?......Disastrous underestimation of the intent of the people we call "Fellow" Nigerians. That is why Igbos have continued to invest all their money in god forsaken parts of the north and elsewhere trusting on the benevolence of those folks, just as our parents disastrously did just in the 1960s. The tragedy of it is that our people will believe they are from Kano or elsewhere simply because they were born there and speak hausa fluently just like Musa and Jibril that were born in the same hospital as them. Only for the facts to hit them at some point when they are treated differently! Just as our parents learned the hard way.
I know i have not made my point clearly in black and white, but it was deliberately intended to be fuzzy. So that people that can read between the lines and search the truth for themselves.

Story for the gods

They should probe GEJ and jail him!!!
Why running around like a chicken without head?

Nnewi1stSon:
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And the way to go about this is to ostracize people who would likely serve as spies in the event of another scuffle with the north? You sure are brilliant!

i am not here to ostracize anyone nor beg them to "spy" anyone for me. I am not an intelligence officer that know how such things happen. I am an ordinary citizen that observe what has been going on in Nigeria and the gang up against the Igbo interest in this country.That is simply the reason it hurts me when the Igbo turn against themselves(Abagworo Vs. Chino war) rather than their oppressors. If you have read my posts as you claim, you will see i encourage a wide dissent of opinions because in hearing all shades of opinions, you are better informed about any issue.

Now, when in the middle of discussing issues or how to progress, someone with an apparent Igbo sounding name begins to speak in Hausa because someone disagrees with them, is an unbecoming behavior. The same man with the temerity to curse his brother in hausa cannot dare greet a hausa man in Igbo, talk less of cursing him in Igbo.

Since he likes speaking hausa, i know the hausa revere Arabic so much. Thus, i advised him to upgrade to Arabic which i'm sure will gain more respect than merely speaking hausa.

uduokirika1:
The bolded has killed any iota of interest in engaging you in a constructive discussions!!!! I used to respect some of you objective observations but ............................

Dude,
I don't need your interest nor you to respect me. I get a lot of it amongst people that matter.I am not here to be respected.
Now, i will repeat again incase you missed this from my previous posts. I am here to engage constructively with other TRUE Igbo people. I will not be afraid nor cowed by your threat to withdraw your "respect". Whatever that is worth. I am not here to be respected by any faceless person no matter their gender or tribe.
My aim here is to rub minds with others to ponder the Igbo position in this unfortunate country and articulate the way forward.

uduokirika1:
If we all had been communicating in Igbo and they vied off to speak Hausa, I would have been among the first to caution them, not this hullabaloo Hypocrisy.

Buddahmonk, Chinolization take note

Dude,
Don't be silly. Speaking Igbo here IS NOT the same as speaking hausa.Just as speaking Igbo in Hausa or yoruba forum will be considered an insult by the folks in those fora. In any case, you wouldn't dare speak igbo to a yoruba or hausa audience and you know that fact. We are technically at war with dem folks and you know it. If they could, they will make Igbo second class citizens of Nigeria. So don't pretend to me to be unaware of this. Even Zimbabweans and South Africans know that much, talk more any Nigerian. Part of the reason Nnewi1st son had to come home to get university admission is because they would not admit him to their school(BTW, A Federal funded university), even with his being born in the north and all his hausa vocabulary plus fluency. Inspite of him being a so called "fellow" african or is it "fellow nigerian", they still rejected him? The same way they would murder him if any riots broke out, in spite of his "fellow" whatever.
"Fellow Nigerian" ko, fellow comrade ni, The type of hollow lies they sell to you when it suits their purpose to pretend Nigeria is one country.

Zonacom:
Didn't know the little convo we had in hausa the other day actually got some mofos pained. Some people just hate for no reason

I actually think you guys should speak Arabic.
It is one of the world's respected languages and even Shekau tipped as one of the most influential Nigerians in 2015 understands and speak it. Perhaps teaching us Arabic would earn you guys some respect.

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As silly as this sounds, i think it is a great idea.
I know many yoruba in places as Onitsha and Nnewi as tailors doing magnificently well. They will easily tell you what their people need is simply how to use their skill to manage a trade perfectly.
Nigeria is such a sorry place that we hate each other so much to learn anything from each other.

Zonacom:
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I however don't dig this idea of having the national Secretariat in Awka.

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I agree giving the National Secretary to Maku is good to have other Nigerians as decision makers in the party. But that Secretariat talk?
Should they build it in an APC state of Lagos. just to satisfy you "national" outlook?

Anambra is and has remained the ONLY APGA state. Thus they should host the party secretariat. In any case, would it make sense that ANSG will spend their money building a secretariat in another state?[/size]

Nigeria cannot survive another civil war primarily because many many powerful countries in this world today are committed to a smaller more manageable Nigeria. That is why they were covertly supporting Boko Haram hoping it would help them achieve the break up. Nigeria is forcast to be more populous than USA as early as 2030, you know CIA ain't just sleeping waiting for that to happen.

Sadly, those ruling Nigeria carry on like thin gods thinking they can suppress any dissent or civil war. With what weapons/ From which country that will give out their armoury wholesale like Britain did in the 1960s? Where is the money to purchase weapons at that scale to fight a civil war? Remember GEJ approval of mere $1 billion for Boko Hram felt like the world was crashing. It makes every sense for Nigerian leaders to genuinely work towards addressing the injustices within the country or nothing will stop Nigeria from breaking up. Whether we like it or not.

investnow2013:
How about regional Bank?. I was told that one of the regional banks owned by Anambraman with Anambra State Govt shareholding & Support will Kick-Start the Revolution on that Front!.

I hope the CBN will not frustrate the bank by denying them license.
I like Obiano for one core value. He understands that where you spend your money, who you patronize and how strategic you are will ultimately determine your future. I like how he is using IDC, while insisting on the highest quality of work from them. This will help them grow by practice and hopefully retain their Awka HQ. It was the same assistance that northern Head of States afforded Dantata & Sawoe company during the construction of Abuja. They thus, improved their skill and capacity in building roads, bridges and buildings.

If Obiano will get some of his key projects on board soon and institute an efficient tax collection system in Anambra, you can bet that Anambra will be the next tiger state in Nigeria.

chinolization:
You are right but I think the parking at the roof top is just limited. The open paved lawn will still have bulk of the parking space. The Nnewi Triangle that I know is such a large site. Let us see how it all plays out.

Do you know why bridge pillars are usually so big? Do you know why bridges or flyovers cost much much more than buildings?
Because they are designed to carry dead weight of vehicles. A volkwagen beetle car weighs over 1,000 pounds or one ton , while a VW golf car weighs over 3,000 pounds when it has nobody inside! That is about the weight of 20-25 grown up men for the weight of just one small VW golf car! Nowadays. cars are built with more comfort and more are SUVs so they weigh 3 or 4 times more than a VW beetle. Not to talk about when the cars have any luggage in the boot.
That is why engineers typically prefer to use the earth surface or ground floor as parking to carry the dead weight of vehicles. While the weight of building (which is the weight of the bricks and the maximum number of people expected inside at every time) can typically be calculated and built without too much structural support needed by building bridge like pillars.

NOBLEDANDY:
Work going on

My biggest fear about Nnewi Mall is that it was designed to carry a car parking lot in the roof. This will make it exorbitantly expensive to build. Even when it is a small size.Since it is like building a bridge on top of a mall. They could easily have used the ground floor as the parking lot and used the first and second floor as mall space which would still be cheaper to build than the current design of having the parking lot situated on the first floor.
What needs to happen is to change the design especially with putting the parking lot on the ground floor and make the mall a multistorey building to have as much space as it ever requires.
The building below is a mall, with the parking lot below

So called Amnesty Inter and many western countries really wanted Nigeria to be over run by Boko Haram.
They denied us military aid, encouraged desertion and indiscipline in the army, collapsed oil price and simultaneously stopped buying Nigerian oil.

God pass their evil desire and plot against Nigeria.
NA beat the boko haram savages to a retreat using Russian weapons and south african advisers!