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AtheistD:
sugabellyrocks.com/2015/11/surviving-mustapha-audu-and-his-rape-brigade.html

AtheistD:
I disagree with your post. According to the blog, even if he waited 10 yrs and committed those acts he would have still committed rape. The acts she mentioned are clearly rape regardless of age.

The dude is a rapist.

Mindfulness:
Let us not even go there.

The age of consent is 18. By this standard, the man is guilty. There is no way we can twist it.

The point I was making is that he is not only guilty of sleeping with a minor - which in itself is despicable - but also of taking advantage of a psychologically fragile person.

5minsmadness:
Thank you.

5minsmadness:
So in your books a 13yr old and a 17yr old have the same emotional maturity? Ok.

The issue here is you girls seem to be exonerating her of ALL guilt. Oh she was 17, she was a zombie, she was manipulated. She couldnt tell right from wrong. Boo hoo.

The man was an irresponsible ingrate who saw an oppurtunity and used it as most people, male AND female, would. The girl on her part made herself readily (and willfully) available.

Onegai:
Of course we should hold a 13 year old responsible! Their mates are getting married up North, the ones down South are bi.tching about the elderly landlord grabbing them and giving them phone and recharge card afterwards to keep quiet (of course after threatening. to kill them, like a good criminal should).

18 is a magical age: we are allowed to have group sex, buy drinks, get a driver's license, join the army and learn how to use a gun to kill people so that some random guy somewhere can keep posting on NL in peace.

Now, if we train and place a firearm in a 17 year old boy's hands and tell him to protect us, most of us would say it's a bad idea.

Because...?

No-one is calling Sugabelly a saint and an innocent victim. People are upset because she is the one being blamed here for making bad choices at a time when the Law said she was too young to make good decisions. No-one will blame Mustapha Audu even though the Law says he is old enough to make good decisions. That is what Statutory Rape is: a crime against someone who should not be making decisions to have sex with another person older than he/she.

If she had been 18 when this all started, I'd be sad about her questionable choices but that's it.

5minsmadness:
A girl was asked by her boyfriend to follow her to Zanzibar resort centre at 6pm in the evening. She had been going out with the boy for a few months and felt she could trust him. So she put on her best attire, made her hair, put on some bright lipstick...the kind virgins hoping to impress their boyfriends put on... and told her mom she would be back later that night. She followed the boy to the club and things were going well until he started encouraging her to take alcohol. She declined at first but later relented probably to impress him. After a few glasses sher started to giggle hysterically and the boy thought she was drunk enough. He started to touch her breasts and thighs but she hit his hand away and told him to behave. Undaunted, he tried again, this time taking her to the dance floor and touching her indecently as they danced. She backed away feeling very dizzy and asked to be taken home. Instead the boy told her there was a room upstairs in which she could sleep. He led her upstairs and locked the door behind him. then he raped her repeatedly. By the time she was brought to us by a good Samaritan some of the female nurses were already judging her by the clothes that she wore but it was obvious she had in no way consented to the sex. That girl was raped. she may have dressed indecently, yes, but it was no excuse for the female nurses to judge her. It was us males that took pity on her and patched her up and listened to her story. She had repeatedly refused sex but the boy had not only drugged her (with alcohol) but forcefully penetrated her.
That girl is to be pitied.
That girl was raped.
That girl was a victim.
Not a girl that goes out with a guy and does whatever he does cos the guy was obviously wealthy. she would have dreamed doing half of what she did "for love" if the guy was penniless.

I repeat. You ladies are making a mockery of real rape victims.
And it makes me sick.
I'm out.

5minsmadness:
A woman brought her daughter into my office on friday morning. She was bathing the child after taking her home from school in the evening when the girl screamed that her pee-pee was hurting her. On examination, the mother found abrasions and slight bleeding on the inner right thigh and the right labia majora had lacerations. The child is three years old. It was obvious she had been molested a few hours earlier and the culprit would most likely be a care-giver but we cant tell for sure cos she can barely communicate english. Thats a helpless victim. Thats someone that cannot give consent. That is a REAL victim of underage rape. Not the bullsh1t story of "I am coming out now but didnt come out when the going was good cos i was afraid the videos i knowingly consented to might be leaked"

5minsmadness:
I think people who are blaming the girl are silly.

I mean, everyone knows the average 17yr old girl lacks the mental capacity to tell right from wrong, to know good from evil, to distinguish between what is moral and what isnt. The average 17yr old girl is a walking zombie and easily manipulated. I mean, just walk up to any 17yrs old girl on the street and whisper sweet words in her ear, telling her you will give her heaven on earth if only she allows you take nude pics of her and engage in sex videos; and you'll see them fall like a pack of cards. They are more or less children and cannot fend for themselves.

Its a wonder some parents allow their 17yr old daughters gain admission into the university at all, I mean, whose going to watch out for them there, knowing the amount of evil sexual predators in the outside world and knowing she doesn't have the mental capacity to think for herself? All it takes is for a random guy to walk up to her and tell her he loves her and she's all confused and manipulated and will do anything including engaging in repeated sexual orgies with him. What a terrible world we live in! These girls ought to be kept under lock and key until they are 18yrs of age when some magical power will bestow upon them the mental acumen to make right decisions and to act responsibly. It happens magically at the age of 18 dontcha know?

Of course none of the good and virtuous women commenting here were disvirgined until they were well past 18years old. I mean, if any of them were, it would mean they were manipulated and raped as well. But that's beside the point. Its not their responsibility. they didnt know what they were doing. Because they were 17 years or less at the time.

SAMBARRY:
Buy fairly used pants at least a lot and dump it all over his wardrobe. He'll get the message

5minsmadness:
You ladies are making a mockery of real rape victims. You ought to be ashamed.

Onegai:
Don't say it's not that bad. I know someone who at 14 took swimming lessons at Ikoyi club. She was the smallest child ever, in thick glasses and certainly no Boobs or curves. The entire lesson, the older male instructor kept sliding his fingers under her bathing suit into her crotch. This terrified child would remove his hand and he would chill for a few. minutes, then fingers would. head back in. All this happened in broad daylight and since she was an inexperienced child, she began to. shiver and go even more quiet (that is the behaviour of most women when attacked, they retreat into. themselves). Finally. she. couldn't take. it anymore and whispered that her stomach was paining her so class should. end. Her fear and anguish reduced her to whispers.

Years later, when she was telling some guys the story, half of them blamed her for not shouting and acting like a combo of Voltron and Super Girl and beating him up, the rest half of those guys laughed and said she must have been enjoying it that was why she was quiet.

Even when. it's wrong, their minds instinctively go on the defense to the male accuser. Until that mindset changes, every man is a potential rapist in my eyes. Yes, family included (na dem worss pass sef). We need to stop defending the inexcusable.

There are good guys out there, but how am I to know which one is good until I'm in a compromising situation? It's upto them to defend their manhood and reclaim the honor that should be theirs by telling their peers to stop. After all, they keep. writing us women lists for How to keep a man, Ladies maintain your shape, Submission in Marriage etc so let them start weeding out the bad apples.

dBard:
My question is, why do we always act so hypocritically in this country
Why d tendency to judge the messenger instead of the message.
Have got Beremx and co lambasting her @ 17 for not knowing beta.
Imagine?? A girl infatuated
This whole is is tiring, n like cococandy asked, why isn't the focus on the boy and his parents

..and Why o Why Hasn't He Bin Arrested for Questioning

Onegai:
@stillfire,

In a normal society, a 25 year old man having kinky. affairs with a 17 year old girl would have had his arse in jail by now. But we're in Nigeria... so her morals are to be judged. I mean, he could have waited till the following year and done as he pleased and whilst it would have been immoral, it would certainly not be illegal. But everyone is falling over themselves to defend. an illegal relationship.

It doesn't matter if. she rode to his office on a camel and offered herself wearing nothing but a Persian rug and had slept with the entire U-17 football team before then, the Nigerian Constitution says that it is illegal for an adult. male. to. take advantage of her stvpidity. He should have controlled himself till she was of legal age and therefore presumed to be adult enough to make that decision. But yeah, him breaking the law is not important, let's focus on her morals and her parenting.

Next time I see any thread in which someone rapes a minor, I shall certainly congratulate the accused. He's innocent until the underage minor can prove to us that she didn't deserve it. After all, a 10 year old in a spaghetti-strap top is clearly asking for "it" in Nigerian society. And just let me hear anyone hashtag #ChildNotBride, i'll insult them. We need. more 13 year old happily married women...

Stillfire:
Yes I remember Sugabelly, even got into an argument with her once.
Premium times recently quoted a lawyer who said we have only made 18 ra.pe convictions in our legal history. Is this a serious country at all? The crime section alone on NL is riddled with ra..pe cases and we've only made 18 convictions?
We should be careful how we as a society are in haste to shut down victims of sexu.al violence. They deserve to be heard. It's left for the law courts to give their verdict. Unfortunately our courts have been a disappointment.

I saw an argument that Sugabelly is a slut etc. Our people need to evolve to know that a so-called slut, prostitu.te can be ra.ped o. A wife can also be rape.d. If Nigerian female legislators are serious they should take this as a project, expand the definitions of what constitute as ra.pe.

Also the argument that she has psychiatric problems that's why he dumped her bla bla. I'm not a lawyer, but in my field People with psychiatric problems are what we call vulnerable subjects and that would even worsen the accused defense, because a psychiatric patient saying yes does not mean you have the right to do whatever you want with them.

Bollinger:
I'm actually going back home permanently. My time in Europe is done. No more Ajala for me. Haven't been home in 6 years. I try. Stuck in a hotel with my family. It sucks. Bad. And it doesn't help with you plastering those pictures of mouth watering, gut wrenching, throat longering delicacies all over the internet. Damn you cococandy. . . .daaaaaammmmmnmmmm yoooooouuuuuuuu.

funlord:


Some "wives" also lie about performance to their hubbies! Let's be honest!

Eketem:
We are so used to sob stories that a good man treating his wife well becomes abnormality and a topic for gossip.

I really wished he married an equally innocent pure person so they could appreciate each other

My own husband will come out in the rain soaking wet and open the gate for me and bring me an umbrella so I won't get wet but he will be soaking wet
He doesn't shout at me
He spends all his free time with his family
He goes with me to the salon
We have a joint account and I also have his ATM pins for his other accounts
Some days I am too lazy and he cooks or buys us food to eat
He wants to make love to me all the time
Maybe I should seek divorce lol.

crowns2:
Cococandy please share the receive for the stuffed Turkey. I will love to make it for Christmas please.
Choi, my mouth is watering

chinma414:
Coco abeg teach me d recipe for the thanksgiving turkey and stuffing. Make I follow una enjoy small.

Bollinger:
Honorable representing in full effect. No thanksgiving for me this year, but glad you enjoyed yours.

rezzy:
Are you celebrating something? When will you finish all that?

Nice delicacy

I think I can only eat the chicken.

armyofone:
Cococandy and all happy thanksgiving. Where the turkey now...no pictures so far....i didn't cook just soaking and hanging out with some friends and watching movies. Turkey and stuffing no hungry me.

Mindfulness:
Don't tell me you don't know the difference between a loving and caring person and a clingy and suffocating one.