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I suspect that old link to be from the cloned vanguard site o.

Anas09:
I'm good sir. Thanks for caring.

Is it that bad? And, can demonic spirit have any effect on somwone just by reading what they write?

Have you heard of the seven book of moses? It is a book and has been widely reported to have severe effect on reader after reading it. There is a spirit behind most books. The letter killeth it is the spirit that maketh alive - 2 Corinthians 3:6

^^^ so God wrote Genesis but Paul wrote Hebrews? You are irredeemable.

jesusjnr:
Well not surprised as I know how a human being is the holy spirit to the likes of you, so I have seen what your holy spirit said, but this is the Word of God direct from God's Mouth on why He accepted Abel and rejected Cain(Please pay particular attention to the bolded):

Genesis 4:6-7 (KJV)

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

So as you can clearly see according to the opinion of God who had accepted Abel, and rejected Cain that the grace of God was available to the both of them, but Abel had met God's requirement of doing well(righteousness) while Cain had not met it. Hence Abel was accepted by God while Cain wasn't.

But you can yet stick to the opinion of your human holy spirit.

hmmm

AbdulHakeem44:
Lol

Hmmm

jesusjnr:
That a homosexualist would yet open as many as nine threads to speak the Truth against the abomination of homosexuality:

https://www.nairaland.com/5146199/today-gay-rights-tomorrow-it
https://www.nairaland.com/5147475/biblical-proof-earth-woman-got
https://www.nairaland.com/5144061/proof-catholic-popes-not-chosen
https://www.nairaland.com/5178857/what-should-christians-endorse-gay
https://www.nairaland.com/5143114/woman-called-earth-homophobic-full
https://www.nairaland.com/5178839/homosexuality-what-god-put-asunder
https://www.nairaland.com/5202814/homosexuals-need-homophobics
https://www.nairaland.com/5221719/jesus-unto-homosexuals-neither-condemn
https://www.nairaland.com/5225517/proof-homosexuality-animals-wasnt-beginning

The devil is indeed the father of lies and liars.

You already boldly declared you are not a servant of your father you claim in here. So I know whom you serve.

scott04:
i wonder why only christians and muslims always get attack by demons

Why do aliens always manifest to white Americans?

EnthronedbyGod:
God the son, Jesus Christ our Redeemer doesn't take forms nor shape shift.

Revelation 5: And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

 6: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

 9- And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

 10-  And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 When the scriptures talks about Jesus as a lion it's figurative and used to describe his absolute dominion, all conquerors nature and His kingship.

When the scriptures talk about him as a lamb it's figurative and used to describe His total surrender to the father and His redemptive act for us on the cross

God bless you sir. Even the devil goes about as a roaring lion looking for whom to devour. He isn't a lion but carries himself as a roaring lion. Figurative expressions are used so much because the dynamics of the spiritual world aren't visible to nakéd eyes of the body. People read these things like story books and start thinking it is cool to shape shift into animals. That is witchcraft and quite common.

jesusjnr:
Sorry about the delay of my response.

First I would say that it is very unwise and risky to use the mockery of Atheists - who are not only ignorant of the Truth, but usually use atheism as a cloak to disguise their rebellious tendencies against God, which is illustrated by such mockery - as a basis of argument, for such mockery was not only a function of ignorance but also rebelliousness, hence could also result in one becoming an atheist or rebelling against God as Adam and Eve did in the beginning, because the only difference between Adam and Eve and most atheists in my own opinion, is that Adam and Eve couldn't have the flimsy excuse that there was no proof of God's existence.

There is always a reason for one to doubt God's actions, judgments, or credibility etcetera as could be proven by what transpired in the beginning, because then there were no instances of such which you provided above, concerning repentant human ritualists, porn stars, armed robbers etc., as there was no sin not to talk of sinner. Yet there was that reason for man to think that God was not being fair or just and had an ulterior motive for doing what He did, which provided the loophole for Satan to exploit.

So I believe that one's faith or belief in God should be hinged on the basis that God was perfect regardless of what He does, or how He chose do whatever He did first. Then when that was established, one could proceed to get answers from God on why He did things the way He does them as Abraham had done regarding God's decision to destroy the land of Sodom and Gomorrah, for then one could get such answers from God without his faith or belief in God being threatened.

Having said that, I would like to establish the premise that after man's disobedience of God's Word in the beginning, that any human being both Adam and Eve and everyone of their descendants deserved death, so any one alive was only alive by the mercy of God.


So if God had decided to spare or take the life of any human, He had every right to do so because the only reason any one of them was alive is only because of
God's mercy not that he or she deserved to live. And this is talking of just the physical life not even the spiritual or eternal life yet.

But God whose mercy was the only reason for any man to be alive, would now make a provision for man who didn't deserve Him, to be accepted or approved of by Him which is called grace. But He would make righteousness or obedience of His word the requirement for any man to be able to access that grace.

Therefore this should explain why Abel was accepted by God, while Cain was rejected of Him despite that neither of them deserved such an approval or acceptance from God, but only that Abel had met the criteria that God who made that provision of grace had set for any man to be able to access it.


And it was the same way that Enoch and Noah, Abraham etc., were able to access God's grace, for none of them deserved it, but they had met the requirement of God to that extent.

That was before the grace of God was upgraded to the level of eternal life, after God had made that provision for man, via the death of His only begotten Son for Adam's sins.

So the same thing in the previous instances applied in this case of eternal life which God provided for man, for it all it all belonged to God, therefore God had every right to determine who would get access to it or not for man didn't deserve it.

So if God who provided such had set a requirement for men who don't deserve eternal life to meet for them to be able to gain access into it, and some meet it while others don't, what right has man to question God?

The Truth is no one deserves eternal life even those who righteous, but the only reason anyone gets it was because they had met the requirement that God who provided it, had set for any one to be able to partake of
it.

So whether they like let it be that they had killed a million in the past, as long as they truly repent of their sins, they are accepted by God!

I said true repentance because one of the key elements of that was returning things that were illicitly obtained as Zachaeus even Judas had done.

And lastly there are many true life stories of people as that atheist who had said such a thing and didn't live to see the next day, for as I said much earlier it's only by God's mercy that they are alive, so for them to do so is foolish and to their own peril, as God upon whose mercies they live a times withdraws that life from them to see how they would be able to do that without His mercies as He did in the instance of the rich fool.

God bless.

With regards to you submission about why Abel was accepted and Cain reject, I tender Hebrews 11:4 and enjoin you to factor in this Holy Ghost inspired scripture given to Apostle Paul.
Hebrews 11:4 says

Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

ediko5:
What I meant. Let's say a repented armed robber stole $100,000. The person have used part of the money to send the children to school, marry a wife and the rest. There's no way he can fully restitute.

He can. He will work for it gradually.

jesusjnr:
^^^^Someone who said my English was poor, is now accusing someone else whose English is supposedly sound to be me.

And they claim they are here on this thread to serve God's interest and not theirs.

Only fools would believe such ones are of God.

The devil is not just a liar but the father of lies.

God bless.

I spelt the JesusJñr in a way it won't reflect in the real jesusjnr mention but you saw it and here you are. What more proof do I need?

Quorax:
na u quote me now o. Later u go complain

You did first. See how you can play victim.

quorax ..

Him dey prove street smart ?

Delusional progressives.

medexico:
I don't trust this current educational level.

In the olden days, this boy will be an average student.

Same spirit that pushed our ancestral president to label youths who cross the desert lazy is at work in you.

YusufTheGreat:
Igbo Amaka

I thought this is Ijaw or Kalbari Amaka.

Everything after the Niger na Igbo?

Quorax:
na my trade mark b that. Ask codetemplar

Sorry bro... no vex... me sef I be mumu

And what is my own in this your conversation. You for go find building site go carry block and cement make ur hand rest for phone body.

MuttleyLaff:
You couldnt be that as badass as Apostle Paul, the worst of them all. Who in his own words, styled himself, the Chief of sinners. Yet Apostle Paul, nowhere in all of his epistles or letters, did he serialise the shady part and past of his life with blow by blow regular instalments narratives giving details of his escapades or unspeakable things he went up to.


For very good and valid reasons, Jorge Mario Bergoglio and others you've wondered about why they do certain things, will probably get a leg in before you and thats on top, if you'll ever get a sniff of the pearly gates at all.

Most of what you condemn as idolatry, witchcraft and satanic are innocently done, just out of sheer ignorance, indoctrination, poor Bible literacy, truth decay etcetera. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. Education is the key, it is the opposite of indoctrination

You are a known attack dog and I wonder why you aren't logged in with your jesusjñr moniker for this post.

Well my points are these:
- Paul had a past just like OP.
He was there when Stephen was being stoned to death and consented to it ( Acts 8:1 ).
- He narrated this later on in Acts 22:20 to prove a point to the Jerusalem mob.

Now compare that to the bold part of the above post of yours in quote. And this time when you do, don't forget to apologize( If the pride you are well known for in your JesusJñr moniker doesn't prevent you as a single person) while accepting your error again.

@wordcat, indeed a blind man cannot live alone.

jesusjnr:
It's better you had just accepted you were wrong with your idea that anyone who serves was a servant of the served.

For what you've just done here is confusion of sorts and exposes the extent of your spiritual ignorance.

Now you'd know why Jesus could serve His Father and yet not be a servant but a Son of His Father!

So also the prodigal son any son who serves his father as I do.

You know not, but think you know.

Why are you changing your stance suddenly from the other thread where you claimed otherwise for Jesus?
Double standard is synonymous with proud souls. Apostle Paul 'antagonizer'.

jesusjnr:
And also answer these 2 questions:

1. Jesus served His disciples, so going by your analogy doesthat make Jesus a servant of His disciples?

2. Most parents serve their children at some point, so does that make them servants of their children?

1. Jesus served his disciple on earth and by doing that fulfilled the will of the father. That makes him chief according to Mathews 20:27.

2. Parents who serve their children are only being chief according to Mathew 20:27


Mathews 20:26-27 says:

Matthew 20:26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; 20:27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

jesusjnr:
See dodging for simple questions that absolutely debunked your ignorant claim?

When someone doesn't answer you now, you'd start playing another card.

That's why i don't bother wasting time on a heart waxed gross as your for it's allergic to the truth.

BTW, when you got an explanation why your master is observed as a mammon worshipper, why did you go ranting "trash" instead of debunking it with valid points.

Your English is poor and your questions don't relate topic so I did you the simple favour of giving you relevant scriptures like Mathews 20:26-27 but your brain isn't catching up obviously. And if you insist your questions are clear and apt have you bothered to answer mine?

jesusjnr:
Wish you could be half this passionate about God as you are for mammon.

I thank God I am not passionately resisting the revelations of The Holy Spirit in Apostle Paul's writings....lol.

Simple question about what you mean is what is making you attack me.

jesusjnr:
Can you comprehend this saying of Jesus below?

John 8:34-35 (KJV)

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

And also answer these 2 questions:

1. Jesus served His disciples, so going by your analogy doesthat make Jesus a servant of His disciples?

2. Most parents serve their children at some point, so does that make them servants of their children?

Read Mathew 20:26-27 and stop parading your intellectual and spiritual deficiencies.
Proud soul. You know why the devil will not change his ways? Pride.

jesusjnr:
By substance you mean mammon?

Intellectual poverty is affecting someone here. Substance is an English word.

jesusjnr:
Mammon would be really proud of you for the evil you've been doing for his cause thus far.

so says Mammon's spokesperson...lol

Rotimi47:
We fight each other on social media but do business together behind the scene.

Smart ones doing business while others fighting.

jesusjnr:
Hmmm.

People who worship mammon as the pharisees don't know they do, and they decide those as Jesus who know it and tell them they do.

See your life. Just rantings and no substance.

That company should be properly traced to unravel the owner.

iRyan:
one quick question. why does an all powerful and spirit being need a throne to sit down. does he get tired of standing up?

may be He should even be pounding yam self.

michaelkaroh:
The Lord bless your soul for this.
Peace to you, brother.

Another popular one is that the devil goes about "like a lion" but not a lion. He puts up scary stuff to scare. Things that can't harm in their physical form they appear.