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The way I understand the Bible makes it hard for me to relate to some of the last few comment before this one.
When the Bible says the Holy Spirit descended like a dove upon Jesus. It mean It descended like a dove and not that It "descended as, or in form of a dove".

The Bible is largely an analogous book full of analogies. It also uses symbolism a lot because the world is basically a spiritual world with a physical angle to it.

In fact many things in the physical are meant to communicate the dynamics of how the spiritual works to us.

jesusjnr:
It's obvious that who you are fighting for is not God, but mammon, the things of the flesh and man.

So keep up the evil fight for mammon, and so that at the end, it would lead you to her everlasting habitations.

I was proven right when I thought it wise not to attempt to explain anything to you on the thread "no man can serve two master's", by your "trash" response when it was explained to you by someone else. For that proved it was just a flimsy excuse by you for you are neither interested nor willing to learn the truth but just to try justify the desires of your flesh, as all my efforts beforehand to make you see the vanity in your inclinations has been in vain thus far.

I can see how you have absolutely no respect for God or His interest at heart, with what you're yet attempting, in spite of all your previous failed attempts, to do on that thread which God has used to deliver many from bondage and would keep using, but know that it's God that brought me back so no man can evict me.

So keep up with your shadow chasing if you chose not to repent mammon worshipper.

You can't define the meaning of what you are accusing people of - spiritual bankruptcy.
And that amounts to intellectual bankruptcy.
Define it. This is a purely English language issue and not a spiritual one. Define it.

Always building delusional discussion on ambiguous phrases.

Davash222:
Giving them ID cards is just like empowering them...like adding a feather to their already accumulated feathers.

how?

jesusjnr:
Jesus didn't waste answers Pharisees like you at some point, because to what use?

Why did you trash someone who answered your questions?

You are a bonafide mammon worshipper and polygamy activist which are both antichrist, so it's obvious you a modern day pharisee.

I was expecting a personal attact from you because I know it is the way of proud and boastful people like you. Show me where I ever worshipped mammon or keep quite. I know you can't because you don't know me in real life so I will understand when you skillfully dodge that question.

Also show me where I supported or advocate for polygamy also. I know what to expect already.

jesusjnr:
Was Jesus a servant or a Son of His Father, despite that He served and obeyed Him?

If not, then I am not a servant of my Father despite that I served Him.

Go and read the parable of the prodigal son to get the difference between a son and a servant.

Even the parable of the prodigal son contradicts you further. The son who remained with the father complained about him serving the father but not being celebrated. He was a son yet served the father. So it even proves my first answer that Jesus was a son who served.

His son-ship status doesn't in any way negate His servant status.



Comprehension?

jesusjnr:
Was Jesus a servant or a Son of His Father, despite that He served and obeyed Him?

If not, then I am not a servant of my Father despite that I served Him.

Go and read the parable of the prodigal son to get the difference between a son and a servant.

A son who served His Father He was.

jesusjnr:
When someone's efforts to answer would be trashed by those pretending to care about answers.

Matthew 7:6 (KJV)

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Now you have resorted to proverbial verses. I know you for that. Keep avoiding questions directly related to your own thread idea. It was the Pharisees who did that in scriptures and you are fast proving to be one.

jesusjnr:
So what does that make His Words?

And if you don't obey Him what are you doing?

You already said you are not a servant of your father in another thread.
And we understand that you are a servant of who you choose to obey. So no need talking about obedience to me. You are not qualified for that.

Blue3k:
ISWAP is controlling territory in lake chad. In one article its said they have functional tax system and public projects. The main reason for that is because Nigerian military made business impossible so terrorists facilitated trade. The solution to some problems are counter intuitive.



Not surprising considering the Nigerian military is banking on military gear coming in 6 months to 2 years. They war could outlast Buhari's presidency. The secrecy isn't helpful.

The reality on ground. While Buhari is helping them take new territories with Ruga.

jesusjnr:
If that's how you chose to interpret these sayings of Jesus which He some of the sayings in the Laws and the Prophets against His own Words:

Jesus is the word.

What a military system.

And Buhari is running after Yahoo boys and oil thieves.
He is even creating Ruga

jesusjnr:
Thanks bro for your efforts to publish the Words of Jesus.

God bless you.

Always dodging direct questions.

The content is actually about "The only begotten Son against The Holy Spirit".
What a thread.

jesusjnr:
1' Jesus: "Blessed are you poor for yours is the kingdom of God".(Lk 6:20, Mk 5:3).


NCL: "Cursed are you poor for poverty is a curse".

Poor spiritually or physically?

jesusjnr:
Lol! Thanks but no thanks for I don't drink from the well of ignorance!

So please save your pity for you and your fellow hypocrites and antichrist Jehovah witnesses who have been clearly been humbled by this question.

For sure It's a huge understatement to say that Jehovah witnesses know how to lie better than me, however I don't respect liars so no next time!

I know you Jehovah witnesses are only under obligation to lie and deceive people, so you are right!

Seriously? So where else were we headed all these while when you knew the destination was just to answer a simple yes or no question?

Hope though that after all these noise making, you don't disappoint.

I said it!

After all the noise making, you answered questions that i didn't ask you, but failed to give the answer to the one I asked.

You think you are smart. You Jehovah witness hypocrites are ashamed to say, "i'm a servant of my father! But if it's to call Jesus a servant of His Father now, you would start using it to sing a song.

Let me teach you how to answer the question correctly with my own answer to the question which is:

"NO, I AM NOT A SERVANT OF MY FATHER"!

It's that simple. No need for tautulogy.

So i'm going to pose the question again and you must answer the question just as I did here without any deceptive craftiness as you did on that occasion, otherwise you'd confirm my view that you Jehovah witnesses are liars, hypocrites and Antichrists.

Cc: EnthronedByGod

I thought we are servants of who we choose to obey.

Maximus69:

You are a servant of whom you choose to obey.

orisa37:
And this is why Fulani Herdsmen Ruga is fighting hard in the South.

? ?

I was expecting to see the definition of spiritual bankruptcy and some good examples with facts to back it up.
All we have here are blind accusations that are borne out of unstable mental faculty.

Good move. Let all southern states follow this and show those jihadists some example.

I wonder how many illegal miners have been jailed in Nigeria.
This one sided anti corruption war alone is enough to speak chaos, talk less of adding other things like herdsmen, Shiite and Boko-Haram to it.

uboma:
Your mind is playing tricks on you....

Stop that talk. Dude needs real help.


OP I suggest you start attending a bible believing and word based church. Winners (Living Faith Church) or RCCG are good. Rededicate your life to Christ if you have done so before but backslided and start obeying instruction as directed. God is not a user of men but a rewarder of men.
Understand that man is basically a spirit, has a soul that dwells in a body. As you serve God, study the word and pray also, He will intervene in your situation and any hidden devices of any crafty man around you will be brought to nought.

Also learn about fasting (and prayer).

budaatum:
They are two different individuals Templar, with the same malady.

If you coming at me and you sure/convinced of yourself and your accusations please come harder and plain enough so I can avail you the attention you seek.

Do you know the problem I have with the doctrines of countering Apostle Paul's Holy Spirit inspired teaching?

It is not only devilish but I sense it is one created as a ground work for the ultimate discrediting of other key authors of the scriptures.

Consider America, a country regarded as Gods own country. It once started out with lots of religiously inclined principles but as time went by the devil crept in and started laying groundwork for some of the corrupt things in that country we currently see.
People started concocting stories of rape in order to force through the abortion laws.
Today, that same America has degenerated to a point where some class of animals have rights more than humans. You can't kill some animals and talk of it because their law has determined that those animals are endangered but same law allows homosexuality and doesn't see how homosexuality threatens the human existence.


I see same pattern with those challenging apostle Paul's authored scriptures. If they succeed, tomorrow they will rise and face maybe Moses then maybe Isaiah. And by that time it will be too late if we allow them give the picture of the kingdom of God as a house divided against itself(one which cannot stand) to undiscerning Christians.

EnthronedbyGod:
I said something earlier when I wanted to end the day thread and I'm going to say it again.

I was led to do this by God, if I made any mistakes, it's not God that made the mistakes, but my flesh.

I love everyone(@caveadullam,mariangeles,@liquidwords,@Anas09, @michaelkaroh,@OCTAVO, @codetemplar). If any of the above names has unfollowed pls come back.

I love all equally.

It's not only jesusjnr i said supported me, I also mentioned bodydialect.


Let's continue in peace and love without attacking each other.

God bless.

I have no problem with the thread but certain devilish individuals wrecking havoc to the faith of other on this forum while parading themselves as Jesus replica on the thread.

I can't comprehend why someone will take on Apostle Paul's Holy Spirit inspired scriptures/teachings and claim he is led by the same Holy Spirit. A house divided against itself we know won't stand so I made my choice boldly and as swiftly as possible once the thread progressed.

The thread is one I liked because I even considered starting a thread around this same topic of "Cultism and Its Spiritual Implications or Dynamics", so I was glad someone was going to shed some light on it and just dropped a comment initially. As it progressed I saw things I didn't like - many comments from very few persons - but restraint out of the need to avoid derailing the thread early.

I strongly believe repentance should precede forgiveness. I also see it as a true qualification for mercy and love. If anyone preaches a doctrine i perceive as corrupt doctrine and I sense it, I try to see if the person is actually "doing something willfully" or "something is doing the person subconsciously" but I can't say the former is the case for certain very active contributors on this thread so far.

MuttleyLaff:
Ones trash, is another's gems. You know when you're beat and have had enough. Go to a corner to lick your wounds with tail behind the legs. You couldn't keep your balloon inflated since I kept exposing the rubbish you're spewing out.

Trash again.

MuttleyLaff:
Stop clutching at straws. Did the IT guy not steal from Covenant Uni? Having treasurers is not exclusive to only the rich or wealthy. C'mon get real.

How do you expect to be swayed, when you don't even know your left from your right, hmm?

I am quite sure you deliberately chose to ignore where and whem I typed that, there is no doubt that, if one has no scruples, have no twinge of conscience, have no sense of uneasiness or feelings of discomfort etcetera, one will serve God and mammon

There is no doubt that you are suffering from selective reading among a bunch of other problems.

I previously shared 1 Kings 3:10-13 and Deuteronomy 8:18 with their useful and informative verses. In addition, I said, moreover when one thing is said, the clever person understands three and sees the picture from joining the dots. I then further said, of course King Solomon wasnt sitting on his hands, doing nothing, but he had to be doing something with his hands before God can or could have blessed the work of his hands and making him rich and wealthy. I didn't even bother, spelling out how kings get rich in the Bible, according to how Samuel warned the Israelites about the prize to pay asking for a human king.

I remember categorically mentioning, that riches dont appear mysteriously, but it only does, in Nollywood films, eith scamming juju babalawos and fetish myths about women pants and benz

Your delusion is increasingly becoming legendary, even after pasting the red inverted commas up there for you to read, you still are dead set in believing that the MuttleyLaff moniker ID is OP. Smh.

Mammon worshippers are ones who have no scruples, have no twinge of conscience, have no sense of uneasiness or feelings of discomfort etcetera, to the extent of serving God and mammon by unashamedly coveting the widows' mites

Trash. Still old tactics.

jesusjnr:
You mammon worshippers also derided Jesus for saying the Truth concerning you, so who am i?

Luke 16:14-15 (KJV)

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Thank you Jesus, na you fit these mammon worshippers pass.

An absolutely perfect response from Master Jesus to all pharisees and mammon worshippers all over the world.

Jesus had said it all, so if they don't listen to Him who the Master, is it me that is His servant that they would hear?

You keep shouting mammon worshipper but fail to define one in details. You know Jesus will probably fit the definition you will want to give in order to nail the likes of Oyedepo and Adeboye so you skillfully avoid those salient questions and increase the intensity of your vile rants.
Define a mammon worshipper and let's see.

jesusjnr:
Chei ya!

Sorry for your master the devil's loss, for the gates shall not prevail against those who are built upon the obedience of Words of Jesus!

Modern day pharisees and mammon worshipper s mocking those who represent Jesus on Earth, just as their predecessors mocked Jesus while He was on the cross.

Really "fools and blind" according to Jesus, for that was not a defeat but the greatest ever victory Jesus had over the works of the devil.

Now you have switch to Jesus on the cross but would never answer direct questions I raised earlier about defining covetousness or even service of God and mammon.

I can understand you feel nailed just like Jesus and your hands probably tingling you as you type now but you know what, you aren't in Jesus' position but that of the unrepentant thief beside Jesus on the cross. If you die like this, then you lose. Switch accounts and come up with newer distraction.

MuttleyLaff:
"¹Soon afterward Jesus began a tour of the nearby towns and villages, preaching and announcing the Good News about the Kingdom of God. He took his twelve disciples with him,
²along with some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases. Among them were Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons;
³Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod’s business manager; Susanna; and many others who were contributing from their own resources to support Jesus and his disciples"
- Luke 8:1-3

Notice there are acknowledged and named financiers of Jesus' ministry. These people provided provided financial support for Jesus and his disciples, they contributed to the support of Jesus and His Apostles but not to make them wealthy nor to live showy or ostentatious lifestyles.

So many errors and dodging of questions again.
Why did Jesus have a treasurer for himself then? A treasure who stole as he wished.


Avoiding direct questions and sampling irrelevant facts or even wrong and shameful interpretation of scripture won't sway me.
You have still not answered basic questions I asked about defining the line between covetousness and contentment or the service of mammon and the service to God.

Mind you, your equally shameful answer of wisdom as the way to get wealth without serving mammon, still desires a lot of clarifications. How did Solomon get wealthy with wisdom? By magical money or what because you seem skillfully at attacking every resourceful man of God out there?

And it is interesting how you switch accounts to avoid questions as relate to the topic but you are quick to log into JesusJnr account to reply to less important issues that are offshoot of the main questions.

jesusjnr:
Oh y'all through with your mockery and desperate final attempt to paint me black before men?

Why not also paint me black before God who is with me you mammon worshipper and servant?

Who is stopping you from your mammon worshipping?

Continue in it for it would back you up in this world and take you to its everlasting habitations in the next!

Satan plot has failed woefully and would continue to fail woefully even if he uses wolf mammon worshippers and those those speaking under the influence of homosexual demons that come in sheep clothing to attack me for speaking the truth, for if God be for me, who can be against me?

#shadowchasers

Oh my. You so much covet your reputation before men, but forgot Jesus you are trying to paint yourself as a replica of made himself of no reputation.
And with all your vile rants I hope you don't come in contact with money in any way. I hope you subscribe to data with heavenly currency. I hope you feed on manna from heaven direct? Hypocrite!

Klimaths:
this exactly the truth most pastors have replaced power by motivational speaking.

I agree there a many pastors like that but there are also many powerfully anointed men of God who people aren't taking good advantage of. Power isn't a one way thing but requires the faith of the one doing the seeking. Most people assume men of God should manifest power in same fashion as their babalawo.

lots halfhearted efforts.