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MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ their church founders just want to start their own businesses so after they have fully established their own they will begin doing padipadi with their former religion.

That's what Charles Taze Russell never did he left those religions and cut all ties with them!

Apparently ✅

Porksupplyib:
Smiles. That is the mistake you make.
The early church comprised of people who lived their lives as we all do now. They had business men, artisans etc.and. Yes they must have had soldiers and government officials in their midst.

Yes some of them were missionaries who moved around like Paul, but many were workers, just like you and I.

When you say Christians cannot participate in any government and MUST remain neutral in everyway, I hope u understand that anyone doing government job will contravene that stand?😆

Now what does the bible say about christians obeying authorities?
Let me help u.

In Titus 3:1

Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,

In Roman 13

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same.

I can go on and On. Do you see that even as. A Christian you are obliged to serve and obey ruling authorities wherevvr you aware?

These were admonitions of Paul. I hope you don't consider them irrelevant😆

I specifically said politics and military services. Christians will definitely work and do business.

Where is the love when a Christian brother from Russia is killing another brother from Ukraine based on the commands of two immortal humans?

Study through the new testament again and you'd clearly see the modulus operandi of the early church.
Not engaging in politics and military services are some of the ways they are not part of this world.

Of course, we must be subject to authorities, you don't understand what that means?

If Nigeria legalized gay rights and transgenderism today, does that mean Christians should engage in the mad practices because the government legalized it?

What Paul taught is the same as what Jesus taught about "giving to Cesar what is Cesar's and to God what's God's".
As a good citizen, you must pay the tax, be a law abiding citizen, perform your duties and obligations etc.
God's will must definitely be the priority for a Christian.

PoliteActivist:
Talking nonsense. Ever heard of such a thing as saving face. If there was a way he'd withdraw and still save face he'd do it.
US can't crush Russia without crushing themselves. That's why this war has no point whatsoever. US or NATO or anybody in the world CAN'T attack Russia without being destroyed. This is not the 60's!

The war has no point but millions of dollars and lives have been wasted nonetheless. Okay lol

The only reason US and NATO can't war against Russia head on is because they fear Russia and what's it's capable of.

You think Putin is saving face? Well if that's true, we'll see where that will take him.

MaxInDHouse:
I wonder what made most of them left Catholic Church and start creating different religions all in the name of one Jesus.

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES know God's will and we are the only group doing it!

The funny thing is that after leaving the Roman Catholic church, they still stuck to the core doctrines of the church. Trinity dogma for example.

Porksupplyib:
Cornelboy. I have an interesting bible passage I would love us to go through together. It has to do with your issue with christians being in thee army or being soldiers.
Are you ready?

Jesus, the apostles, the early church were all politically neutral and never participated in military services. They were only after the assignment Jesus gave them.
I already showed you a clear reasons why a true Christian cannot participate in politics or military services.

Matthew 28:20
[20]Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

All the commands are to be learned and obeyed. No room for cherry picking.

PoliteActivist:
Definitely a big NOT!
He lost the moment he invaded. Just before he invaded was his and Russia's highest prestige and intimidation value in the world. EVERYONE (including he himself) assumed he'd easily march in with overwhelming Russian military might (which we now know doesn't exist) and took Kiev!

Lol. If he's not winning then why hasn't he ordered his troop out of Ukraine yet or surrender?
If indeed he's loosing the war, the US would want to crush Russia completely. So it doesn't matter whether he withdraw his troops or not.

The US has been the world superpower for a long time and done a lot evil across some part of Africa and Asia. You know about Libya right?

Russia and China are real game changer.

Porksupplyib:
"Believing in christ is not just a feeling you get in your head."
You are absolutely right.

And if you read my posts well u should have read "Believing in Christ and obeying his precepts". It goes beyond just believing. You must obey. That is the will of God.

Christ preached LOVE. Love for even ones enemy and not only fellow brethren.
So yes, I agree that those who pray for the death of their enemies are wrong and need to restudy their bible. Now I didn't need to be a JW to know that.
That is what your Bible, and a good relationship with Christ and the holy spirit would teach you.
And millions of believers around the world's know this and practice it.
So this isn't anything "special".
So tell me, do you still believe only Jehovah witnesses are doing the will of God?
And will make the kingdom of God?

When even amoung Jehovah witness we have thousands to million still living in flesh and sin, while yet still forming "Most holy brethren" ?
Don't worry, I have many of you as colleagues. I see the life they live.

Okay

No argument.
If true Christianity was not lost along the way, and the Roman Catholic didn't take over the church, JWs organization wouldn't be here today.

Since there was no church or group adhering to the pure doctrines of the Bible, the churches existing were heavily influenced by the Roman Catholics dogmas, Russell started questioning their strange doctrines and formed a group for the extensive study and research of the scripture.

Remember they didn't get all the truths in a day, they started from the dogmas of the Roman Catholics and they kept unveiling scripture truths and here we are today.

Porksupplyib:
For emphasis. Verse 40. "For the father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

Believing in Christ is not just a feeling you get in your head or a mere confession with your mouth. It's actually learning and putting everything Jesus taught and commanded into practice.

For example, Jesus taught us to love our brothers, friends, neighbours and enemies and even pray for them, but the church I grew up in, CAC and some other Pentecostal churches like MFM, RCCG among others pray against their enemies and even pray for their death.
Isn't that against Jesus's teachings?

Most of these churches don't see anything wrong in their member joining the military. Obviously, military guys are just tools in the hands of evil politicians.

Imagine a Christian brother from Nigeria going to fight and kill another Christian in Niger. Who are they fighting for? Whose side would God support?
This is a serious problem.
Not only are they killing their enemies, they are killing their fellow Christian brothers also. So where's the love in killing your brothers, neighbours and enemies?

22jumpstreet1:
your knowledge and understanding of what i just posted is the beginning of your salvation...
when you are ready.....you will know.
till then,
shalom.

I know the beginning of my salvation.
Keep your inaccurate interpretation to yourself.

Genesis 2:17
[17]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Are you saying Adam is still living lol?

PoliteActivist:
I know Russia lost after Putin's minor military exercise (he refused to call it a war) went past one month without taking Kiev!

Is Putin winning or not?

PoliteActivist:
Another inane comment. If he orders his troops out, Zelensky will come to Russia to fight him, bah?

See they try apply logic to things na.

Who do you think is winning the war?

BigBashiru:
Don't spoil your nice write up with personal attacks.

The Bible lied does not mean its God lied....they are two different things......many things the apostles did or wrote are ancient practices and are outdated so they hv become lies by virtue of being outdated...it doesn't mean God lied. It simply means outdated portions of the Bible inadvertently turned to lies....

Oh lol. You came here to advertise the Koran Abi lol

No portion of the Bible is outdated. Speak for you Koran ogbeni

22jumpstreet1:
i know you will miss that part..

so before GOD created man he said 'Let US (GOD AND THE EARTH) create man in OUR IMAGE, AFTER OUR LIKENESS let them........

God made the body from the earth...so when the body expires, it is buried to become like the earth or dust..

then God breathed on his nostrils the breath of life ( which is same image and likeness as GOD)...and it became a living being...when ''death'' occurs it means it has returned to GOD....and the body will be buried to return to dust...

GOD is immortal
therefore mans spirit is immortal..


what do you not understand?

What God created in his image was the body, organs etc.
The breath of life is the unexplainable energy from God that animates us and makes us a living soul.

There's only one breath of life that every human shares from. You got your life from your parents, they got theirs from their ancestors, their ancestors got theirs from Adam, and Adam got his from God.

Have you ever thought of the animals? They also got their life from God. They are living the same way humans are living. In fact animals are also souls.

If Adam didn't sin, he would be here today and continue to live forever.

This proves that humans were created to be physical beings.

22jumpstreet1:
that is what i am saying..

we are spirit dueling within a physical vessel made from dust..

death is just the spirit leaving the body.....for the spiritual realm, waiting for another body...

that spirit is the same image and likeness as GOD the creator. Meaning it is immortal..

I will not agree with that.

When God created Adam, the process started from dust/clay. The breath of life/spirit was what made Adam lifeless body to become living being.

It's just like electricity. When you cut off power supply to an appliance, for example, a fan, it stops working. The electricity is needed to make the fan work, it not part of the fan itself.

That's how god's breath or spirit work. It supplies the energy needed for us to function.

When Adam died, he rot in his grave. Nothing was left of him.

Animals exist and die the same way Humans do.

PoliteActivist:
Beating about the bush.
Bottom line: Putin is the ONLY person that can IMMEDIATELY end the war!

He can't stop it if Ukraine doesn't want to.

Dtruthspeaker:
So this is how you mad devils changed Deuteronomy 6:4 in your devil bible too?

See how stupid you are? Even your pervasion is still showing that "Our Lord" is "Our God". In the end you are still the mad devil.

There is No way you people would miss lake of Fire

Oh my bad. I shouldn't even be arguing with you at all. You never did any research outside the Bible lol. If you did, you would have known that "LORD" used in Deuteronomy 6:4 was supposed to be Yahweh/Jehovah, the tetragrammaton.
"Lord" normally in Hebrew is "adonia", but why was "Yahweh" translated to "LORD"?

soqmeov:
"hit putin hard", and "weaken Russia" using Ukraine as a proxy. The Ukrainians were on the verge of agreeing to a peace deal mediated by Israel but the west derailed it.

Thank you.

PoliteActivist:
Security of his country!😆 That one deserves a laugh.
My previous post below explains why:

Like I almost said, retards.
Comparing the 60's to now! Does US or Russia still need proximity (nearness) to destroy each other or any part of the world like they needed it in the 60's??
See all the steps you mentioned. How does that tally with "immediately"?? The ONLY person in the world that can stop the war immediately is PUTIN - by ordering his troops to stop attacking Ukraine!

Okay. Putin just woke up one day and started fighting Ukraine.
Putin will just withdraw from Ukraine like that with any mutual agreement between him and zelensky.
The US and NATO was never involved in the war. In fact, they are saints.

Oh no way, it was never a proxy war!

Courz:
That's why it is good to ask questions and listen to people not Mad people. Max bundled me with other atheists. You mumu joined him simply because I exposed you JWs to be Satanists. How do you feel now? Like an idiot right? You are seeing an Atheist attack me. How do you feel in your foolishness? Bundling me with Oteneaaron. Have you seen your stupidity exposed now?

I'm really surprised. I never thought there would be a day you would claim to be a Christian and argue against an atheist.
I've always known you to support other people who are atheists, apostates, agnostic etc against the JWs.

Are all religions no longer cults?
Are you really a Christian?

Lol when did course convert to Christianity

You've in the past proved that all religion are cults. A no understand o. Please explain.

Jesus is no longer a myth?

Aemmyjah:
Nobody
I repeat, nobody can prove there was never a global flood in man's history
Let's not forget that our earth is 70% water and most regions are on ice and note that the height of the mountains we see today was not the same as 4000 years ago... Mountains 'grow' and that is why the height of Everest and others keeps changing (Update yourself)... The Bible never said Noah went around looking for animals and it never said that all the animals came into the ark... It only said males and females of selected kinds of animals in 2s or 7s

The only issue is the events leading to the flood and the supernatural power
While many people, including atheists now agree that there was a global flood especially by confirming how widespread the story is across cultures and legend but, they say it is just an accident with no supernatural cause attached to it.

How do we know that it was God that brought about the flood?
Primarily, cos the Bible says so and the Koran supports that

Let's now leave Bible, if all life were wiped out, there would never be any human or animals today (evolutionists should take note).

That a family was spared in a global, catastrophic event that even the waters covered the highest mountains could not have been by chance but a miracle... Even animals were saved too, most of which were land animals and can't live on or in water. Could they have survived by chance? Even if they were able, we know that such a devastating flood covering all the mountains (shells and skeletons of sea animals give evidence to that), would not just come and disappear in one day. It will take several weeks or months... Even if this human family and animals were able to survive the flood somehow, they would also need to survive by eating and drinking... Such kind of flood would have destroyed all the trees and vegetations and all the water would likely be salt water which is not good for drinking. It only increases your thirst and you'll die more from thirst than from hunger...

Logically, the human family must have known that the flood was coming, they couldn't have flown into space to hide for all that period or hidden in any cave. They must have built an enclosure with outlet(s) for light and air and they must have packed in enough food for themselves and the animals for weeks or months.. This leads to another question? How did they know or what or who could have guided them? It could not have been chance but a supernatural source helping them to be well prepared and such a vessel must have been well-constructed spanning years and decades... Like Max said, it is a miracle cos such rains could have destroyed the ark too but God saved it

Now, the above is a good example of critical thinking and that is how I read and study my Bible... I ask deep questions too and do research. It is always like a jigsaw puzzle and I share with my Christian friends to strengthen them. An overly pessimistic critical thinking like the ones that atheists and Bible critics adopt is not a characteristic of intelligence. Besides, they don't belive that there's anything like truth or that truth is absolute but relative. Let them keep deceiving themselves...

I just used this small logic to present my points to everyone's understanding

I am Emmanuel
One of Jehovah's Witnesses
In Max voice, May you have peace

I didn't know we have a professor in the house. My research no reach this level o

Aemmyjah:
The highlighted is very funny
'WE' indeed

Lol person wey talk say Jehovah na Satan name and used in spiritism.

Nothing wey Musa no go see for gate

Lol

MaxInDHouse:
From the above comment isn't it clear that no member of God's organization is above the standard?
Ọmọ you people don't just know what you want exactly!

That guy is a confused man. I always say he's unreasonable.
He thinks he's dragging the organisation whereas he's proving to the world that JWs don't give room for unrepentant sinners.
Even if the principle wasn't in the Bible, that is the appropriate thing to do.

jaephoenix:
Bro, do you have a problem understanding? 'Your' has already qualified the word 'family'. Its different from JWs. You know what? Forget I said if it was all or one JW member.
All these wild goose chase is just to deflect from the main matter, which was that Aemmyjah said those stories were lies.

You're a dummy. But I'll help you a little.
"Your" didn't qualify the word "family", rather it is possessive pronoun that shows that the family in question belongs to you. "Members" is plural, refers to two or more members of a group.
"Your family members" collectively refers to every member of your family. It doesn't matter whether they're two people or one million people in your family.

"You guys" undoubtedly refers to two or more people. And since there are more than two people in the organisation , "you guys" collectively refers to every people in the organisation.

Here's your words once again;
"You guys are gays, rapists etc."
Aemmyjah and any other JW would never agree with that.

If I said, "some of your family members" or "two members of your family" or "half of your family members", that would have made a difference and defined the portion of your family members that are gays and rapists.

If you had also said, "some of you guys" or "half of you guys" or"two of you guys", it would have made a difference.

Accept your mistake and move on. Shamelessly trying to bend English language to your own definition is really crazy.

It's my utmost pleasure

Gaskiya77:
I hate Putin and Russians fighting against Ukraine which has led to the dead of so many people in Ukraine and the destruction of properties. Africans has also suffered due to the war.
The funny thing about the war was there was no provocation other than hatred against the west by the Russians. This war does not worth the killings and the destruction of properties at all on a sovereign nation. The entire world must hold Putin and his collaborators responsible against humanity. The war must end now and it is Russians and their Putin that can stop it. If they fail to do that, the world and the anger of God would rise against them.

I'm not saying Putin is perfect but you obviously don't understand how evil the US government and NATO are.

Putin is only acting base on the provocative moves of NATO around the Russian borders. He's concern about the security of his country.

Regardless, the war needs to be stopped 💞💞

MaxInDHouse:
The mistake most of you people are making is what is influencing Kobo's comments.
She has been influenced by my comments but she doesn't want to subject herself to the same line of thought with JWs.
So she is never one of Jehovah's Witnesses it's my comments that has molded her that's why most people often think i and Kobo are the same person while others feels she's one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Wait, she a girl?

MaxInDHouse:
Your friend has become a real parasite following me from thread to thread as if i took his bread!

Naso é be for here o
I keep ignoring him

UnabashedIPOB:
I have made my stand known and I ain't got no time to keep repeating myself. You believe what you believe and I wish you good luck with that!
Buh Bye!

👍🏾👍🏾

Dtruthspeaker:
I never go outside the bible.



See madness o
I showed you Deuteronomy 6:4 where
It is clearly written "The LORD is our God;" and you properly held your peace, only for you to now say this. Clearly madness is a jw disease.



Clearly madness is a jw disease if not you would have remembered thst you have said all this before and i anawered you.

So clearly you do not have any reasonable thing to say. Anyway, you can't for you are Mad!

This is what happens when a madman tries to explain the Bible.

Deuteronomy 6:4, "our LORD God" correct and accurate translation should be "Jehovah/Yahweh our God".

You don't go outside the Bible lol, where did you get trinity from then, 'cause it's not in the Bible?

Try again

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So Moses is in hellfire presently!

Lol