₦airaland Forum

Xbee007:
It is a great thing that Nigeria is re-floating her national airline. However, it is best the government have very little to with it if we wish it to be successful.

Nigerians tend to run government own business with impunity. Look at Ajaokuta, Nigeria Refinery in Kaduna and Porthacourt, Bacita Sugar factory in Kwara State, etc. And we are not even talking about Government ministries yet.

bidexiii:
Can you see how delusional and ignorant you are

bidexiii:
You got into the bait yourself.

You ran out of fuel... .the facts sucks right

Henry240:
I first watched that video in 2016.

They have a T-72/T-55 Tank overhaul facility. It doesn't mean they produce tanks. Are old model T-72s still in production?

If they produce Tanks, even exporting, why are they purchasing old T-72s from Ukraine?

What they have there is a facility not different from Nigeria army Vickers tank overhaul facility at the SVP in Bauchi. Does that mean we produce tanks?

They are not exporting any APCs either, to show you i know what i'm talking about, those APCs are vehicles made by GAIA automotive in Israel. They purchased 74 units.

They are only assembled in Ethiopia. The manufacturing process like what you have at Proforce is not there.

Lol, what MRAPs do they produce, you tell us?

jakeporeshenko:
Thank you
Our major success story is NLNG in Bonny island, why ?

Government isn’t involved in management.

the new national carrier will be private sector driven/led/managed/financed.

bidexiii:
Still displaying your act of ignorance and delusion.

Ethiopia is far ahead of Nigerian in most sectors if not all, a secondary school student will boldly tell you that. The facts are there !

I doubt your claims, it does not reflect in your facts. Now you are withdrawing back what you said; "
Bidexiii I have books to recommend for you.

The video you watched clearly feeds your perception."

Now I can see its pointless going into an argument with you

nemesis8u:
Seriously me write a diatribe for u

U judge me harshly

Anyways I will do better

Pic will say better than words what I think

Xbee007:
Ethiopian Airline is a proof of that.

In Nigeria however...

bidexiii:
Dude it's so clear that you don't read the so called books you recommend. If you have been reading them or doing your research you know we are lacking behind.

Years of corrupt leadership/military era as ruined a lot of sectors.

nemesis8u:
U in intelligence ?

First time I am honoured to meet one online

lionel4power:
According to his logic, we have to disregard those books too because the authors sits in his office and doing his paymasters bidding.

lionel4power:
Well you have a point. But if we are to go with your reasoning, then indices on every topic in the world should be disregarded.

For example every thing we know about Mars is wrong since nobody have actually been there. Also we should throw out all we know about the universe.


More people speak French in Africa than do those in France..... but since We were not counted then we'll disregard that long-standing fact.

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A compilation of this magnitude is usually done by people of different race, believes and all that.... There are methodology in getting indexes, if a country feels aggrieved they can always challenge it with their own research.

bidexiii:
The books you read that is been written by Africans or white dude who sits in his office and does bidding of his paymaster to keep black Africa in perpetual subjugation, judging by your quotes.

I doubt if you have read any of those book, your claims here suggest other wise.

bidexiii:
You better stop deceiving your self, the truth is bitter to handle.

bidexiii:
As much as you hate to hear it, they are far ahead of us. These problem with Sudan is they have been fighting a long war and it's virtually killing every sector of the economy.

lionel4power:
Your grievances with South Africa is amusing. The way you always jump to attack that country is something else.

Anyway... They're still the most technologically advanced nation in Africa. We all know thats a fact.

Also... They are topping the African most innovative country.
South Africa has been ranked the most innovative country in Africa, according to the Global Innovation Index 2018. Every year, the Global Innovation Index ranks the Innovation performance of nearly 130 economies around the world. Here are the top ten most innovative countries in Africa according to this report:

1) South Africa
2) Tunisia
3) Mauritius
4) Morocco
5) Kenya
6) Botswana
7) Tanzania
Namibia
9) Egypt
10)Rwanda

The Global Innovation Index (GII) provides detailed metrics about the innovation performance of 126 countries which represent 90.8% of the world’s population and 96.3% of global GDP. Its 80 indicators explore a broad vision of innovation, including political environment, education, infrastructure and business sophistication.

The GII 2018 marks the 11th edition of the GII, and the beginning of its second decade providing data and insights gathered from tracking innovation across the globe.




https://www.africa-ontherise.com/2018/07/top-10-most-innovative-countries-in-africa/

Surprisingly Nigeria and Ethiopia that we are arguing about didn't make the list.

Henry240:
Not true.

They don't make tanks or APCs.

We build MRAPs, APCs and light armoured vehicles. We also produce personnel combat gear, boots, bullet proof helmets and bullet proof vests.

We manufacture ships that are up to 62 meters in length, Inshore Patrol Vessels and small boats.

We overhaul helicopters of all types, medium and light lift aircrafts. We produce drones and avionics systems.

We produce radios, ammunition and small arms.

We build helicopter parts and can upgrade our aircrafts,see the Bell 419, A109 and MI series.

MREs are produced in Nigeria.

We run both government and private defence companies.

The Nigerian industry is significantly ahead of Ethiopia.

bidexiii:
Although they are licensed & they import parts, they are far ahead of us; https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/corporate/group/mro/base-maintenance

Henry240:
Not true.

They don't make tanks or APCs.

We build MRAPs, APCs and light armoured vehicles. We also produce personnel combat gear, boots, bullet proof helmets and bullet proof vests.

We manufacture ships that are up to 62 meters in length, Inshore Patrol Vessels and small boats.

We overhaul helicopters of all types, medium and light lift aircrafts. We produce drones and avionics systems.

We produce radios, ammunition and small arms.

We build helicopter parts and can upgrade our aircrafts,see the Bell 419, A109 and MI series.

MREs are produced in Nigeria.

We run both government and private defence companies.

The Nigerian industry is significantly ahead of Ethiopia.

bidexiii:
Innoson is a PURE ASSEMBLY PLANT.... 70% of its part are imported

iblawi:
Nigerians design their APC, MRAP, drones, communication system, automobile, etc. This is completely different from assembling what others designed, produced and even taught you how to put them together.

abiodunalasa:
Which Country formed and chaired the UN committee against Apartheid in South Africa : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Angola out of Civil war and help them gain independence and ensuring that MPLA gain power : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Mozambique gain peace and progress by suppressing and destroying the South African backed insurgents : NIGERIA

Which Country helped Namibia gain independence and uprooting the devilish apartheid government installed by South Africa : Nigeria

Pls read on... I aint done yet !

Which country provided Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) with money and Military training so they could collect their Country from the White occupants : NIGERIA

Now here is the interesting parts.. wait for it...

Which Country has its Military in several other African Countries even with all its own problem at home : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Entertainment industry in Africa and 3rd in the World : NIGERIA

Which Country has the largest Economy in Africa : NGERIA

Richest Black man on earth is from where : NIGERIA

Richest African woman(non state actor) is from where : NIGERIA


You see I don't like rubbing Nigerian leadership position on your face... But it seems you needed some quick reminder.

Dont worry, very soon, when the right leadership appears, Nigeria will lead all black folks to that promise land that we promised you all when we gain independence in 1960
Wait for it!

abiodunalasa:
I think Ramaphosa is very embedded in the ANC during the anti apartheid struggle... I saw his name alot in Mandela's book *Long Walk to Freedom*.
So I expect him to be better at recognizing Nigeria's African leadership role than his opportunist predecessor.

nemesis8u:
" I therefore propose a peace deal with the Southies on here and together to forge a common front with Nigeria in the lead for Africa's prosperity. "

Am I the only person who almost died laughing

Covert1 seriously we need to preserve u till the time the aliens decide to attack humanity.

U will automatically be the naturally choice to negotiate a peace deal with the aliens on behalf of all humanity.

I am 110% sure the deal will be in our favour

Till that time plz don't try this negotiation skills of urs with rest of humans. We need u alive.

abiodunalasa:
I have done the needful. I can't end up like Tdayof... Running off to Japan for expensive face-lift

lionel4power:
I'm a product of AFRICA

Litmus:
The beegeale example sited as an indictment is a little confusing. Was he comparing disfavourbly the Nigeria gorvenment's reactions to killings in the country to the Thai gorvenment's reaction to a national drama that has attained international intrest ? Or was he making a wider point, comparing disfavourbly Nigerians sensitivity to tragedy compared to that of the Thai people?

I am not even sure if the great conserns shown by the Thai for a small group of children is example of the magnitude of thire humanity compared to ours or if it is simply easier to show great conserns for something small, knowing that it is surmountable and the consiqunces spectacular since it captures world sentimentality, compared to huge issues with national existential implications requiring decades to resolve if possible.

it's all very odd, this our seasonal emoting, I mean there are many instances of Nigerians doing crowd funding for individuals in need, groups forming for girls kidnapped by Bokoharam, organisations set up to assist IDP,'s, Doctors placing thire lives on the line during Ebola, teachers continuing to educate even without pay and so on. Conversely, I am sure there are instances of Thai gorvenments apparent callousness in the face of national civil conserns, turning blind eyes for instance to the child abuse of thire females and males for that matter by forigners....

LTGEN:
The very same people quoting failed state are the ones trying to peddle their books and consulting services to people in the failed state.
Tell them to move to Libya, Mali, Somalia, Yemen.
They will begin story making .
Mr Disintegrate wey never see anything wey im like about Naija go dey form mouth like say I'm be British
Make I commot.

bidexiii:
The fact that corruption has destroyed most sector in these country does not mean Nigeria is a failed state.

lionel4power:
AFIT where i did my industrial Training in 2014.


Fun place

Henry240:
I wanted to join in the chorus but i decided to take a step back.

Truth be told, Nigerians are hypocrites. If you move all the Nigerians in Nigeria to Norway and all the Norwegians in Norway to Nigeria, you'll see that in no time the Nigerians in the now relocated Norway will turn Norway into the old Nigeria where nothing works.

The problem of Nigeria is all mindset. Nigerian leaders do not magically fall from the sky. Our leaders are an exact replica of the society. We can always try to make our leaders the boogeyman, but the truth we as Nigerians are avoiding is the Nigerian populace, not the leaders are the main problem with Nigeria.

It is the fact. Beegeagle, peccavi and everyone else complaining in that thread, you and i, and every Nigerian here is the cause of what is wrong in Nigeria.

Take for example, the Beegeagle twitter handle clearly says, this is the twitter handle of Beegeagle, Africa's largest "Defence blog". But how many times has he used that "Defence" handle to make irrelevant posts about sports, entertainment and every day lifestyle in Nigeria?

What about all of us here, despite what the title of the thread says, how many times have we made completely irrelevant posts not related to the topic here?

We cannot as Nigerians continue to point accusing fingers at others, when 4 fingers are pointing directly back at us.

If Nigeria is a failed state like Beegeagle assumes it is primarily the fault of Beegeagle, peccavi, Lionel, Henry, Bidexii, Iblawi, krattos, Jake and every other Nigerian in Nigeria or abroad who has failed to follow the rule of law.

It is not because Nigerian leaders have failed, it is because the entire Nigerian population, leader and citizens have failed.

This is the truth.