₦airaland Forum

grandstar:
Argentina is a perennial basket case. It should be an economic powerhouse but bad fiscal and monetary policies are the bane of its economy.

It always spends above its revenue and lacks the backbone to cut spending. Cutting spending would mean slashing the bloated civil service, eliminating transportation and energy subsidies. These are untouchables, so things just go from bad to worse.

On January 1 1992, the Argentine Peso was fixed at $1-1peso. Today, it is $1-350 peso

Those who want the petrol subsidy to continue want the above to play out, This should be a warning.

Sharap there you demon!
Why can’t the government go against the people abusing the subsidy? Keep supporting rubbish for 30k. Hell awaits you. Demon!

Berrylite:
You go explain till you die a shameful death. Keep up the hating

where’s the lie here you agbadorian ? Why have you sold your soul to the devil?
If you check now, you’ll find out berrylite is one retched human being who has no hope in this world and will still go to hellfire.
You are a demon for supporting this evil government.

porka:
Alagba, they are not even talking about subsidy here in the report. What the report is about is forex. Did you read it at all?

You are still talking about subsidy that has been removed? They have removed it for you as you have advocated.

Your 10-20 years projected suffering is foolish. You don't even have any idea what suffering entails. You don't even know what destabilization that would occur before next year or two and you are making foolish 10 - 20 year projections.

Try and reason like a human being who has higher capacity than lower animals. What exactly are the projections based on? Nothing but wishful thinking.

Have you factored in sudden international or even national occurrences that might happen along the line? War in the Balkan; Tension or possible war between US and China? NATO-Russo war? Massive global economic and financial turmoil? Another pandemic?

Did you know if there would be coup in Niger by this time last year, for instance? Have you considered that Nigeria might be spending so much money out of the socalled subsidy savings in prosecuting a needless war in the coming months?

Don’t mind that Mumu. Anywhere he hears or sees the word subsidy he just jumps in and starts talking rubbish.

I don’t know how these people think sef. They need to be dissected and their brains studied to understand how they acquired such stupidity.

Microwhy:
You're very stupid for assuming you know me better than myself. Because we meet on Nairaland doesn't mean we're equal. Nairaland is a place where both Old, Advance and young people come together to share their views, vent their anger and sometime talk dirty or flirt which they can't do in real life.
How dare you assume you know reasons for my political preference.
You guys keep putting pressure on the government and Nigerians unnecessarily. If Atiku and Obi congratulated Tinubu, the list of ministers and his cabinet would have been entirely different.
If he tried to use technocrats and sideline politicians, they will definitely side with court and remove him. You guys are Nigerian problem.
Atiku came second, so why and how would Obi become president?
You definitely knows that Tinubu is spending 4-8years if God grant him. Why all this rubbish.
You guys are just drumming ethno/religious war which you can't truly afford.
You people are very stupid for not seeing and not been able to analyse the reality.

stupid person calling others stupid.
Anybody supporting anything APC is beyond stupid.

Omoawoke:
I didn’t support nonsense.
No government is perfect. Tinubu remains the best candidate to rule Nigeria and I never regretted supporting him.
I was not just okay with the naira floating.

you dense sha. You still Dey open that your agbado filled mouth Dey talk.. Tinubu remains the best candidate. Mumu

Omoawoke:
The biggest mistake was floating naira at the same time subsidy was removed.
Nothing to check or balance the other. Both fuel price and naira will be dancing azonto.
The govenrment need to be extra creative and find a way to solve this problem

I am Jagaban supporter but I never supported the floating of the naira from day one

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Some people like this mofo are irredeemably senseless
Because your candidate did not win an election is no reason to wish your country fail and celebrate bad news. There’s something about the universe, you will eventually get what you wish one way or the other. The way you sniff around looking for bad news, that energy will locate you and bad news will eventually hit you.
I asked myself sincerely, if obi had won and become president, would I because of that wish my country bad and hoping it fails? Of course no. There are times when you should know when to draw the line. Politics is one thing, hating your country is another.

You voted rubbish and you are here whipping up sentiments. What did you see in the person you voted for if not that you voted based on tribalism? Na tribalism go kill una. You are among the fools that put Nigeria on this spot. Now your candidate don win, we don see the result.
Stupid lots…. Una go suffer!

adenigga:
Source: https://punchng.com/Subsidy-removal-will-reduce-carbon-dioxide-emissions-says Shettima

It is now clear that these people are following the dictates of their puppet masters, the global elites as regards their useless climate change agenda.
Remove fuel subsidy so that only a few can afford to buy fuel, thereby reducing the number of cars on the road and the number of people using generators.

Image123:
Tinubu seems to be doing something correctly to attract these set of foolish attention. Fire on, Jagabandit.

he is not doing anything correct. They are just telling you that if you had sense you shouldn’t have allowed someone with such a dirty past to be your president. But then, you don’t have sense.

emkz:
Many Nigerians who celebrate foreign media insulting their president demonstrate a shameless lack of understanding of neocolonialism. This is why they shamelessly jump at any train criticizing their president.

Some of them want him to fail to prove the point that if their candidate had won, he'd have done better.

Folks, irrespective of who you voted for, Bola Tinubu GCFR is our president and the face of our nation. If you refuse to read racism, imperialism and an attempt to undermine your country as the drive for these insults, then you demonstrate severe myopic vision.

Here we were when one of our best exports decided to run down our country to Joe Biden and Rishi Sunak. Even if they succeeded in disrespecting our president and our institutions, how will they respect our country?

For a moment, forget about Bola Tinubu or who you voted for. Why are these foreign imperialists interested in undermining Nigeria?

Sometimes, let us unite and defend our country. We can insult Bola Tinubu or Atiku Abubakar or Peter Obi, but as soon as a foreign element tries it, let us unite and run them out of town. That is how we create respect for ourselves.

You are just here talking rubbish. Why have you lots decided not to have sense? Where is the lie in what they are saying?
You can’t have someone with a questionable character at the helm of affairs of a nation and expect no repercussions.

Weather you like it or not, you can’t have the respect you so crave for when someone with serious flaws is your president.

Get sense please.

Biodun556:
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https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/08/au-un-ecowas-delegation-head-to-niger-for-talks-reports/

E get something wey the whites dey get from this Niger wey we never know o.

Nobody disturbed mali and bokinafaso why Niger.

How can this dirty motor be 4m+? Nigeria don spoil reach like this or you are just being greedy?

Generalmystic:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0xNQrZQd9sR8FXSpKchdMtFkUzgZQeJYUwPNegQvvTsDzfhsR9pDyeBCU1vRA82LZl&id=100064825475285&mibextid=2JQ9oc

hope these places are not visa free? Some Nigerians will go and spoil that place for genuine people o.

Snakedoctor1:
So far, Italy's visa stamp is still the best out of the visa stamps I have got on my passport.
Those people value the science of beauty. School certificate sef be like make you use am for decoration.

which other visa stamps do you have?

Meanwhile, I think you should modify your topic, as it doesn’t rhyme with what you see when you open the thread.

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Offpointng:
You're the most stupidly and foolish to think you can assume for people's lives. At first I wasn't referring to you and secondly, I asked him to try something out.

Get a life already and save you from this untold frustrations eating you deep

well, it didn’t matter if you were talking to me. I like calling out daft people when I see one, especially on a public forum like this, because your way of thinking is toxic.

You lots blame your misfortune in life on some mundane stuffs. How can a human being be thinking that masturbation made him not to be successful in life?
Your likes vote useless leaders and hope prayer will eventually make things right.

No wonder your name is offpointing. You daft gan!

Offpointng:
Do you or are you currently masturbating and ur still doing well financially or career wise??

If you're doing well financially or prospering career wise and you don't masturbate, why not give masturbation a chance and a trial today?? and come tell us ur story after 2 months

Where did you get this stupid notion from? Are people this stupid? No wonder we have the kind of rulers we have.

Racoon:
https://www.thecable.ng/el-rufai-tinubus-vision-is-uninterrupted-electricity-for-seven-years/amp

how many times will they tell us these lies nau? This people Dey carry us play sha.

Why will it take 7 years?

Dwizzy1:
Please I need ur advice. I have someone in Italy who's inviting me to come and stay with him and work in Italy. My question is, what type of visa should I apply for coz the person has a house and enough funds to take care of my expenses.

😮 just like that?

favor914:
All this Incoherent Obidients, a South African presenter said what?

How many Nigerians journalists took it upon themselves to care about Cyril Ramaphosa hiding $6 million dollars in his ranch?

Yet a South African ridicules you, and you accept it, because you don’t like the winner?

which winner? Dey play… EU and other nations questioning the legitimacy of that charade that produced your alleged winner are obidients abi?
Keep burying your head in the sand like the proverbial ostrich. Body go tell you. Stupid lots!!!

Dagger111:
It is very obvious that majority of you Obi's dogs are cr∆zy, you guys love connecting every anomaly to Mr President cos of the hatred you all have for him.

How sure are that it is not one of Obi's lap dogs that applied for Visa? I can't just comprehend you guys problem, God bare me the witness.

You all did more than this during Buhari 2 terms, you are also following same step for Jagaban. Reason why i love God is that, he doesn't compromise and he is not a human, just like us.

just ranting… does it remove the fact that your president is a drug lord? The EU and other countries questioning the legitimacy of that charade of an election, are they obi’s dogs?
Don’t call God in your statement because you don’t believe in God , otherwise you won’t be this stupid.

tensazangetsu20:
When I left university I was very lucky to get a job that sponsored me to Europe on a platter of gold. I went to Europe for the first time in my life without even visiting the embassy in Nigeria. My visa was done while I was there. I left the job and came back to Nigeria to do business. Omho the kind suffering wey choke me eh, in a years time I was super broke. Covid came and I managed to pick up a new skill and God so faithful I was able to get something going with it. I planned my japa immediately I got my job in 2020.

If you have no experience in business, just avoid it. Business is extremely difficult and in Nigeria it's ten times more difficult. Everyone is out to cheat you. Customers, your fellow colleagues, your suppliers. The list is endless and there's zero rule of law. You can be scammed and theres no police to go to. The thing with business in Nigeria is that if it fails, Nigeria has no safety net. You can fall into severe poverty and never ever return. Thankfully I have very wonderful parents and a strong support base at home but not everyone has this. Abroad if your business or startup fails, you can always live on government benefits and then find a new job and gradually rebuild yourself. In Nigeria it's not even easy to get back into paid employment if you didn't succeed doing business and even if you did, it's very difficult to get any sort of job In Nigeria

How did you travel to Europe without a visa ? Abeg me I’m interested.

grandstar:
You are the tribal person here! You see things in a tribal light and perceive everyone else will.

So, Nigerians were not tribal when they voted for Jonathan? He won all states of the Southwest except Osun state (Aregbesola was still very popular then) and they did not vote for the ACN candidate Ribadu. You start shouting tribalism when it suits you

Did OBJ not try severally just to increase the price and met great opposition? Is OBJ Ijaw? Was he from a minority tribe like the Chibok? Most Yorubas applauded Oshiomole's frustrations of OBJ's oil price increases.

Jonathan failed to carry the nation along that he would remove the subsidy and deregulate the price. The nation just woke up on January 1st, 2012, with the announcement that the subsidy was gone and price fully deregulated.

Who does that? Where's the wisdom? He should have started sensitizing with stakeholders that he would remove the price after he won the 2011 elections. Heavy consultations with the state governors and stakeholders should have been had on how to end it. Oshiomole who was now a governor realizing his mistake could have reached an agreement with the NLC. I fully supported the deregulation then and now.

OBJ did a very poor job of enlightening the population of the need to end the subsidy and fully deregulate the price. That military man in him preferred to impose things on the citizenry rather than work through consultation. The same Oshiomole who fought him hard upon becoming governor realized that the subsidy was costing the nation dearly and short-changing all 3 tiers of government.

This is 2023. Times are different. It is glaring that the petrol subsidy is adversely affecting the country. Buhari's wasted 8 years has exposed the unaffordability of the subsidy, costing about a quarter to a third of the budget to finance.

Also, Tinubu, Obi and Atiku all stated they would remove it. So, what's the problem here? Is it because it was a Yoruba man that eventually removed it? If it needed to be removed, it should irrespective of who actually did so.

this one think say he done make sense. Mumu.

Daytonbale:
Uba only increase 20% meanwhile gt and zenith others increase 100%

how do you know zenith bank did 100 percent? You are saying like you prepared the payroll.

favor914:
Yes without a shadow of a doubt, the ones with the Obidient mentality want the strike, you are in the millions, but still the major minority.

If Peter Obi had won the election, would you have been calling for a strike?

Is it possible to try & change Nigeria, without this structural Adjustment Policies?

this boy, you stupid o….it’s like stupidity is inherent in all APC supporters. Is it just obedients that are trekking up and down because they cannot afford transportation?

What nonsense reforms and adjustments have you guys been talking about since APC took over power?

Kukutente23:
I don't know why some people who are ignorant are casting aspersions on the COAS.
He already assured the indigenes of protection before asking them to hand over their weapons.
I agree he will need to build trust with them before expecting that to happen but to say he's on the side of Fulani is not correct.
The Fulani terrorists were actually wiped out of those communities by the military.
He has to be balanced and fair to all sides and not pick sides to be successful

evidence please!

Oh… I thought appointing a COAS from the south will bring succor to the middle belt in that there will be fair play and the aggressors will be dealt with.

It seems it will be business as usual irrespective of whoever is in charge.

Nigeria jagajaga truely.

Oblongata:
£4700 and I still get broke every month thanks to bills!

how’s that possible 🤔

Dijita:
Demand is mostly the reason. it is the same in US. I have seen situation in US where you are going from destination A to destination C which is far than destination B. in fact you will have a stopover in destination B before getting to C. However the ticket price to destination C is far cheaper than destination B. Some people going to B will buy the cheap ticket to C and just not complete the second leg of the flight. Airline are now banning people for life if they caught you doing it.

😁How can they ban people for deciding to stop at point B? Don’t I have the right to stop anywhere in want? Wetin be their business?

Immunity1555:
Simple economics
The higher the demand
The higher the price

lies … do we travel more than the whites? How come flights are cheap for them even when demand is high?

Enice:
"Tinubu, through his counsel, Wole Olanipekun, argued that the FCT is the 37th state for electoral purposes and any other interpretation would “lead to absurdity, chaos, anarchy and alteration of the very intention of the legislature.”
Only a mad man will interprete the statement above to mean to cause chaos and anarchy to the nation if removed from power

How else will you interpret it, you that is not mad?

Anyway, Interpretation has always been part of your job since this new government started….from always interpreting whatever your principal meant when he was busy disgracing himself during the campaign.

Please, interpret this one for us since you are the only sane person.

Kukutente23:
I don't know how old you are but the FG removed subsidy 1st Jan 2012. Total, complete removal. What he said then matters a lot now because anyone with integrity should ensure he means what he says and he says what he means. Integrity is one of the virtues required in leadership. And can you explain what you mean by circumstances are not the same.

But that's not my main point.

You have listed the reason why subsidy is not good for the economy as:
i) our refineries are down
ii) Our exports are down( whatever that means)
iii) Foreign exchange income is less(are you sure?)
iv) We import our fuel
v) Money meant for running govt expenditure is diverted to subsidy.
All these situation you listed above are not caused by the ordinary citizens but by the elites in govt and have existed since 2012 when and Tinubu opposed subsidy removal. The people who have been bearing the brunt of the absence of all you listed above are the ordinary citizens not the elites. The only thing going for the citizens is the relatively cheaper cost of living before now.

As i already showed you, the average Nigerian has gone from earning $109 in 2012 to just $37 in 2023. He is poorer, and yet, you still want to add more to his misery by removing subsidy and jacking up fuel prices, something we said was not good in 2012 when he earned far higher. How is that justifiable?

What is emerging is a lot of you seem to think the citizens should bear the burden of govt and not govt bearing their burden. I think this idea only exists in Nigeria. In the US, when fuel prices rose last year, the US govt subsidised the price, even up to giving residents free money to cushion the price. They didn't just sit and say subsidy is bad.

Government exists for the welfare and well- being of the citizens and not the other way round as we're having it now in Nigeria. The average gov today still goes about with 20 convoys or more regardless of fuel price. Who is footing the bill? Is it not same govt you claim can't pay subsidy for its citizens that's subsidising the govs and other govt officials?

Lastly, let me ask you a philosophical question. What is the sign of a strong economy? Is it one that puts food on the table of the people or one that takes food off their table. Any economic policy that subjects the generality of people to untold suffering and mass social degradation as we have it now can't be good. Economic policies should bring prosperity not poverty.

This person you quoted is in the US, enjoying all the subsidies the US government provides, but still comes here to tell us how subsidy is the worst crime. useless lots.

Originalsly:
Only shallow people attack the messenger when they can't counter the message. I am not a Tinubu fan ... loyal to no Party. Fuel subsidy is a big drain on the economy... how long can the FG support fuel subsidy by borrowing?... or using up money that can be used for infrastructure? We would not be this indebted for and in such a financial crisis if any of the previous Presidents had the balls to cut fuel subsidy. From what I observed.... no doubt Obi had this in his plans... but he doesn't have the balls nor the backings to confront the cabal. Tinubu has both ... and the cabals know this ... they do not want to clash with Tinubu. We are now facing the real world ... it is for us to now come to grip with reality and figure out ways to adapt and move forward. Charity is no more .... we're dashed lemons .... what we do with the lemons is our choice .

you day America day support rubbish. I no blame you sha.