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Religion / Re: To Win The Argument Or To Win The Man? by cyrexx: 4:23am On Feb 22, 2013
Mr_Anony:

This is how Dawkins specifically urges people to ridicule beliefs:

MOCK THEM, RIDICULE THEM!!!


Ridiculous beliefs should be ridiculed.
Simple.

I never support personal attacks or ridicule of the person but JUST their RIDICULOUS BELIEFS.

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Phones / Re: Glo Blackberry Plans On Phones And Other Devices by cyrexx: 1:39pm On Feb 21, 2013
luluosas:
Thank you for the advice but, paying for a service does not make it a cheat any longer. What do you think.

But can you confidently tell mtn people about your usage of vpn services on their bis to make it work on non-BB devices?

I don't want to sound holier than thou, but personally I love doing things I am proud of and can confidently tell anyone.

That's just me o. Everyone is a free moral agent.
Religion / Re: Towards Uniting Theist And Atheist by cyrexx: 12:27pm On Feb 21, 2013
Mr_Anony: ^^^^

@the atheist Olaadegbu (scratch that. You are not half the man Olaadegbu is). Isn't it interesting how you managed to skip Leviticus 27:1-2?

Let me show you.


Is this how far you have fallen now? Dishonestly quote-mining scriptures in order to help your atheist propaganda along? Pathethic.

You have just proven yourself to be a slimy and dishonest individual. I can't tell you just how disgusted I am at what you just did.

@artful dodger / master twister

Don't twist the scriptures to make it sound more humane. The passage was clearly talking about dedicating one's slave to yahweh, like they are properties or animals.

You should be disgusted at what your scriptures permit and if you don't like someone pointing it out, that's your problem, not mine. Deal with it.

I am disgusted at your dishonest cherry picking. You are not even half the smart guy I make you out to be.

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Phones / Re: Glo Blackberry Plans On Phones And Other Devices by cyrexx: 11:54am On Feb 21, 2013
luluosas:
My phone is rooted. What do I need to do to use it? If it is feasible, I will try it though I detest MTN big time.

It's droidvpn on mtn bis. You pay for the vpn services as well as bis. Totalling more than N2000 monthly.

Besides, it's a cheat and it's illegal. I won't advise you to do it, if you value integrity.
Phones / Re: Glo Blackberry Plans On Phones And Other Devices by cyrexx: 10:39am On Feb 21, 2013
luluosas:
Thank you very much for your observations. The reason why it is a closed group is to ward off telecoms agents who may be moles to undo anything we may be thinking of doing. Please, do bear with us for now. Thank you.

Still, this doesnt stop telecoms agents from joining the group and getting access.

The best thing is to make the group a legit telecom customers union facebook group where we voice our displeasure with Nigerian telecoms operations. Not a a secret group to discuss illegal cheats and tweaks. I never support any illegal acts in any format. I only used Glo bis on my android smartphone because I thought Glo permitted it on non-BB devices. But seriously telecoms companies should increase their data cap for non-BB devices.

I still move the motion to make it an open LEGIT GROUP for customers of Nigerian telecoms service providers to voice their grievances (or satisfaction) with the services they render to Nigerians. .

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Phones / Re: Glo Blackberry Plans On Phones And Other Devices by cyrexx: 9:00am On Feb 21, 2013
luluosas: Good morning every one. Plaease, if you were a benefactor of the just blocked blackberry.net APN by Glo and you feel so embarassed by this ugly development, especially as you have lost your hard earn resources to Glo for subscribing to a data plan you were never allow to use, then, come to facebook and request a membership for the group ( TELECOMS CUSTOMERS' UNION OF NIGERIA (TelCUN) ).
The sole aim of this new group is to have one voice among all the telecoms subscribers in Nigeria, thereby speaking whenever we are short-changed in the usage of our subscribed services. You must always be proud as a customer to these telecoms service providers because, you, the customer is the one keeping them afloat on their business success.
Without a customer, will there ever be a success in business? Certainly not. Therefore, visit https://www./151015021723682/
to join so that we will all smile at the long run.
Mobile users, please here is the link https://m./151015021723682/ to the group.
Come one, come all. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Good morning.

While I love this idea and I fully support it.

There are two suggestions though.
1. Why do you make it a closed group. I thought the idea is to have as many members as possible. You should have created it as an open group NOT a closed group.
2. You should encourage every member to share the page on their wall, thereby reaching as many as possible.

Thanks.

By the way, I have sent my request to join the group, waiting for the admin to approve my membership.
Religion / Re: Towards Uniting Theist And Atheist by cyrexx: 6:08am On Feb 21, 2013
Abolitionists or no abolitionists. This is what the unchanging yahweh himself told his chosen jews about regulating slavery.

Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 5:07am On Feb 21, 2013
daylae:

Christianity has no business in proving anything about God, conforming to the premise of logic,because logic itself is handicap in such capacity. The concept of "seeing is believing" is out of place. That's why atheists have failed woefully in disproving the existence of God,all you are left with is the philosophy of doubt.

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Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 3:29pm On Feb 20, 2013
musKeeto:
Before sin, was there hell?

And yes, God created sin by giving Adam and Eve an instrution....

Roman 7:8
But sin used this command
to arouse all kinds of
covetous desires within me!
If there were no law, sin
would not have that power.


What baffles me is that: didn't the omnisicent Yahweh know already that those guys will fail the test? He knew but he went ahead to test them anyway and when they failed, he condemned all their unborn generations to eternal torture in hell that he had created, only those few among them who become Christians will be spared from hell.


How anybody can make sense of this GRAND NONSENSE is truly beyond me.


Oh wait, they will say that preaching of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing and also that god frustrates the intelligence of the wise.

This yahweh is one hell of a god.

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Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 2:05pm On Feb 20, 2013
Mr_Anony:
That's like saying;
1. Who created the kidnapper's dungeon called prisons
2. Does the same have the power to remove people from the prison

Okay,

A prison is clearly different from a torture chamber and you know this.

The purpose of prison is to punish offenders and probably rehabilitate them.
A sick freako who built a torture chamber to torture humans ETERNALLY simply for not being a Christian is definitely worse than Hitler.

My bad. Hitler is a real human being while the character of Jesus is just a legend built around a dead jew.

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Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 1:47pm On Feb 20, 2013
Mr_Anony:
The point you miss being that the reason Jesus came was to provide an escape for those who were definitely heading towards eternal torture. If those people reject the escape route He has provided, then it is not His fault. Jesus will never force anyone out of hell and into heaven against their will

Just two questions for you
1.who created the eternal torture chamber called hell.
2. Does he have the power or not to remove people from the torture chamber.
Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 1:21pm On Feb 20, 2013
Mr_Anony:
How exactly was does Hitler's lifestyle imitate Christ?

I think Hitler's and even Osama bin Laden lifestyles was better than Jesus', assuming he is what the bible say he is.

At least, those two guys vowed no eternal torture on anyone who disbelieved them.

Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 1:04pm On Feb 20, 2013
ifeness:
The best way to become an atheist is to read the bible from cover to cover. Not simply picking the nes that suits ur belief. Then you will realise it is pure rubish.

Even jesus's last words on the cross,’my god,my god,why hast thou forsaken me ? hardly seems like the words of a man who planned it that way.it doesn’t take sherlock holmes to figure there is something wrong here.

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Religion / Does Science Refute God? : A Full Debate by cyrexx: 11:55am On Feb 20, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNd_S3iXfs


Pls, I plead with everyone to watch the debate first and make comments based on the debate.

The debaters were
1.Dinesh D'Souza (A popular Christian apologist)
2.Ian Hutchinson ( Professor of Nuclear Science and
Engineering, MIT)

VS

3.Lawrence Krauss (Director, Origins Project and
Foundation Professor, ASU )
4. Michael Shermer (Founding Publisher of Skeptic
magazine)


In case, you want a transcript of the debate, you can download the pdf here http://intelligencesquaredus.org/images/debates/past/transcripts/120512%20science%20god.pdf
Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 11:17am On Feb 20, 2013
Logicboy03:


Cheers bro.


However, you suprised me when you said that you were married! Is it true?

Yes, true. Happily married.
Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by cyrexx: 11:03am On Feb 20, 2013
Logicboy03:


Wrong! I he had at least 3 ex christians that have left their faith because of arguments here. They replied me on threads long ago. However one example is on the logicboy effect thread. Will look for it.



Read the op
https://www.nairaland.com/1028529/defence-logicboy


Testimony Time.

I was a Christian before I joined nairaland, but now I am a fully convinced proud godless atheist. Thanks mainly to nairaland threads especially this one by Avicenna a while ago https://www.nairaland.com/914444/abandoned-religion-god-today-im

And I think Avicenna also claim he transitioned from Islam to atheism through one or more of Logicboy threads.
Religion / Re: Your Word For Today - Bible Verses That Inspire The Atheist/Anti-Christian by cyrexx: 9:50am On Feb 20, 2013
Time for some lessons on biblical morality

Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 7:30pm On Feb 19, 2013
Mr_Anony:
Lol, the assistant boyfriend has spoken

LOL,

You no well o. You can be so funny atimes. grin

On a lighter note , I'm a married man. I don't even qualify to be a regular boyfriend, let alone assistant boyfriend grin
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 7:05pm On Feb 19, 2013
Ihedonobi and co, will you stop this trolling and petty talks,focus on the thread and leave this girl alone.

Don't you think we deserve our own version of ishilove? grin
Religion / Re: End Of The World SADDISTS! by cyrexx: 6:27pm On Feb 19, 2013
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Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 9:19am On Feb 19, 2013
Logicboy03:

I can give you logical proof that your God doesnt exist.

An omnisicent God can not exist because to know everything means that one can not forget- but then that means that your god can not have a first hand knowledge what it means to remember. That is somehting your God doesnt know.

Omniscience is a contradiction. Your God can not exist if you say that he knows everything.



You cant give me empirical evidence that Zeus nor the spaghetti monster do not exist.

Permit me to further shed light on this omniscient /omnipotent dichotomy

God is said to have the attributes of being
both all-powerful and all-knowing. He is
also said to be a person. If you assume
that God is a person then I assume that
He has free will. (Note that I'm referring
to His free will and NOT man's free will)
But for one to have free will there must
be 5 conditions present and maybe more:
1. You have to have a desire. You have to
need or want something.
2. You have to have more than one
option available to you.
3. You have to have a rational basis for
making the choice, not just choosing wily
nily.
4. You have to have the freedom to make
the choice between available options.
5. Most important of all of these- you
cannot know the future.
I'll explain. If God is all-knowing then he
knows the past, present, and future. He
knows if He's going to heal that praying
sick child or not. He knows right now that
tomorrow at noon he will choose coffee
over tea. If this is so then when
tomorrow noon comes around He's stuck!
He must choose the coffee because he
knew in advance that He would. This
means that the set of future actions and
decisions by God is fixed. Suppose He
were to go ahead and change the future
because He is all-powerful- then His
foreknowledge right now was wrong,
wasn't it? So God can't be both all-
powerful AND all-knowing; those are
mutually exclusive terms.
If He knows everything He will do in the
future then he doesn't have free will. In
this scenario God is more like a robot or
computer program mindlessly executing
code than a person. If He doesn't have
free will then he is not a person. If He's
not a person then He doesn't exist
because your definition of God requires
personality.
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 8:23am On Feb 19, 2013
musKeeto:
The beginnings of a psychopath...
Logicboy03:

Lol.


It makes sense that a psycopath would have a psycopath god.


"My God can drown humans beings , command slavery, blow up Sodom and Gomorrah like a terrorist etc because he is that creator"

Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 6:03am On Feb 19, 2013
Solozzo:

Davidydian, no one really knows if a God as described by bible exist or necessary for the existence of the universe. Find the courage to look at the bible critically and do not be afraid of your being punished. The bible was written by mere mortals jews, based on their own knowledge. They invoke God, which I call oyinbo juju, to dominate and avoid criticisms. Think like this;

-how could Moses have written the first five books of the bible when they contain his funeral and things that happened after his death?
-how can a snake talk to Eve?
-how did Cain find a wife when there only two sons and father and mother on earth at that time
-why should capital punishment be meted on the entire future human generation because of eating forbidden fruit?
-how did Adam live for 935years thousands of years ago?

All the above indicate mythical elements in bible stories and makes one wonder about their description of God. Remember Yahweh is the local god ofte Israelites. God concept is universal is universal in most cultures. It represents mans attribution of the existence of the universe to a power greater than him because of fear of the destructive power of natural disasters and seeking protection from them, magical primitive thinking, personification of all elements and lack of understanding of the workings of nature.

Science is primarily not there to disprove existence of God. But to understand how the universe works. If you believe in the bible description of god you may need to answer how did God come into existence, why so wicked and violent why so discrinating to other races, favoring jews, why changing mind all time, how did he get a son in jesus, questions no one can answer.

At present no one knows whether there is a creating omniscetific being, so let us stop using myths to describe him or her. It appears belief in the existence such a being is not necessary for our existence because whether we believe god exist or not you will need food, shelter, water, sex, and you would be dead and forgotten like every living animal in time. What we do not know we do not know. Religionists stop claiming superiority with mythical thinking!


Perfect!!

But if you are waiting for religious people to grasp this truth and appreciate what you just said, you may wait till the end of time.

People are not reasoned into religion and superstitious beliefs, they are indoctrinated into it from childhood. It will therefore be a miracle to reason them out of it.

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Politics / New Militant Group Ansaru: We Kidnapped 7 Foreigners by cyrexx: 5:41am On Feb 19, 2013
Islamist group Ansaru claimed
responsibility for the abduction, saying it
has custody of the Briton, the Italian, the
Greek and four Lebanese kidnapped at
gunpoint from their workplace in
Jama’are, Bauchi State.
President Goodluck Jonathan yesterday
ordered security agents to rescue the
seven foreigners abducted by gunmen in
Bauchi State on Saturday, last week.
A Nigerian security guard – Mr. John
Amalu – was killed by the gunmen.
All the kidnapped victims are employees of
construction firm SETRACO, working on
the Bauchi State segment of the Kano-
Maiduguri Expressway.
In a statement by his spokesman Dr.
Reuben Abati, the President
commiserated with the family of the
guard who was reportedly killed and
assured “the kidnapped foreign workers
as well as the governments of their
countries that the Federal Government
and its security agencies are doing
everything possible to find their
abductors and ensure the safe release of
all those they abducted”.
“The President condemns the kidnapping
of the workers and reaffirms the Federal
Government’s total commitment to
stamping out all forms of terrorism and
criminal abduction in the country.
“He urges all Nigerians and foreigners in
the country to continue to go about their
normal business in the full assurance that
the government and national security
agencies are working tirelessly to curb
threats to security in all parts of the
country,” Abati said.
The police in Bauchi said they had
intensified a manhunt for the militants.
Bauchi State Police Commissioner
Mohammed Ladan said “as soon as
security agencies conclude their
investigation, we will let the world know”.
“There is no contact with the abductors
yet but the search continues.”
Already, all the expatriates working with
the firm have been evacuated and work
on the road suspended.
A note allegedly written and posted on
Twitter by one Abu Usamatal Ansary
yesterday said: “Based on the
transgression and atrocities done to the
religion of Allah SWT by European
countries in many places such as
Afghanistan and Mali etc. By Allah’s grace
Jama’atu Ansarul Muslimina Fi
Biladissudan has the custody of seven
persons, which include Lebanese and
their European counterparts working with
Setraco in Nigeria on 8th of Rabiul
Thani,1434 equivalent to 7 February
2013’’.
The statement added: “It is stressed that
any attempt or act contrary to our
condition by the European Nations or by
the Nigeria Government will lead to the
happenings as it was in the previous
attempt.’’
The statement was not signed, but the
name of Abu Usamatal Ansary was at the
bottom as the writer.
The abductors allegedly used explosives
to blast their way into a housing
compound in a hail of gunfire.
It was the worst case of foreigners being
kidnapped since an insurgency by Islamist
militants intensified two years ago.
“By Allah’s grace (we) have the custody of
seven persons, which include Lebanese
and their European counterparts working
with Setraco,” read the statement from
Ansaru, a group that has kidnapped other
foreigners in Nigeria in the past.
The kidnapping was “based on the
transgression and atrocities done to the
religion of Allah by the European
countries in many places such as
Afghanistan and Mali”, the statement
added.
In the Jama’are housing compound walls
were strewn with bullet holes and empty
cartridges lay on the floor as police
searched the deserted Setraco site on
Monday, witnesses said. The remaining
foreign workers abandoned their homes
and fled to safer areas in Nigeria.
Islamist fighters first attacked a police
station and a prison, burning vehicles to
immobilise security officials, before
striking the compound in a coordinated
attack, the Setraco compound security
manager said.
“Some of them attacked the camp from
the north side, while others from the
south. They blew holes in the security
gates using explosives,” Musa Alhamdu
told Reuters.
“There was pandemonium after the
gunmen opened fire on the four
policemen attached to the camp, the
policemen ran away as they were
overpowered,” Alhamdu added.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/news/new-militant-group-ansaru-we-kidnapped-7-foreigners/
Religion / Re: End Of The World SADDISTS! by cyrexx: 4:01am On Feb 19, 2013
This is one of the paradigm shift i experienced on my transition from chritianity to atheism. I remember as a Christian how I firmly believe we are in the end times. Any major news story is a a sign of the end times.
Eg
-Iran is developing nuclear weapons - this means that the end is near and Jesus is coming soon.
-Britons legalising gay marriage.
- A madman shooting students in their school
- Obama 's medicare programme.
- a pastor sleeping with an under-aged female child.
- earthquake in Japan.
Etc etc etc

All these are indication that rapture will soon happen (whatever the hell that means) and their imaginary hero will suddenly appear in the sky and whisk them away in a twinkling of an eye, sparing them the total destruction he will later send down to the earth.

I can't help but laugh when I remember that I used to think like this. Plaetton has correctly labelled religion, especially the pentecostal form of Christianity as a mild form of mental illness. He is right.

No wonder religious people don't bother with the earth's environmental preservation. Why would they when their mind has been configured to firmly believe in the destruction the earth.
Religion / Re: Proof That God Exists! by cyrexx: 9:14pm On Feb 18, 2013
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Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 6:12pm On Feb 18, 2013
musKeeto:

Without faith, the holy Books become works of fiction.

1000 likes.

Simple but profound truth
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 6:06pm On Feb 18, 2013
uchay01: Hey again, this is directed to all atheists here: do u guys have like a forum or group on here, were WE can share our thoughts, not to change the minds of people who think differently, but to show the ones who think like US dat they r not alone? I'd love to be involved wit such group. And frankly, there's no winning wit deez ReliTards.....I mean...can u see how lame & backwards some of deez comments are? Pls, buzz me of any groups jor!

In your Facebook search engine, just type "Nigerian Atheists". You will see a group with the name. I joined the Facebook group mid last year and I absolutely love what I saw. I have been able to make some friends with fellow atheists. I even met some of them face to face recently.

It's a closed group, so no worries if you still want to keep your beliefs from your Facebook friends. But as for me, I have changed my Facebook religious status to secular humanist. I lost some friends and I gained some more friends.

Cheers, bro
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 10:39pm On Feb 17, 2013
davidylan:

Pot calling kettle black. Isnt that exactly what you were caught doing with Ifeness a while back? hypocrite.

O my, this is sooo interesting.

This trinity of Anony+Davidylan+Enigma is indeed an action-packed hot exchange with NL atheists. Too bad, I'm feeling sleepy now. I'll catch you guys later tomorrow. Good night.
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 10:25pm On Feb 17, 2013
Mr_Anony:
Perfect

Dumb.

You are suffering from the syndrome of "I-support - whatever - you - say-as-long-as-you-attack-these-non believers"

Supporters Club United grin
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by cyrexx: 7:18am On Feb 17, 2013
Ifeness, you just became my favourite nairalander today. Well done. You did a good job schooling these ignorant and bigoted christians, who actually prefer their superstitious religious myths rather than opening their minds to realities outside their religious bubble. Some of them haven't even read their entire Bible for themselves.

Many people on nairaland already know that davidylan is a fake scientist (he denies the established scientific facts), as well as he is a fake-a$$ foul-mouthed Christian. He thinks the more he attacks and denies established scientific facts, the more he validates his superstitious religious beliefs.

To address the topic of the thread, the fact that some atheists keep their beliefs to themselves is not necessarily a cowardice. When you are living among religious psychopaths, the best course of action is be wise about disclosing your personal beliefs. Survival matters more than anything else.

Religious people somehow believe that the more they attack non-believers, the more they are pleasing their imaginary god. Even christians in my country discriminate and psychologically attack anyone outside their belief system.

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Religion / Re: How Chrislam Demoralizes People by cyrexx: 10:59am On Feb 15, 2013
poopli: xtianity and islam never contributed anything good to humanity. I ama deist though, not an atheist.

But they contributed self-hatred and feelings of worthlessness to humanity. They make you hate yourself for just being a human being

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