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This is my only question as this would make or break his case.

He mentioned that a particular brother in the fellowship died from complications that came from fasting...A nairalander who also finished in 2010 from his school asked for the persons name since he did not hear of such a case and Hardmirror did not respond.

NOW I ASK THE SAME QUESTION. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE BROTHER WHO DIED VIA FASTING RELATED ISSUES? WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN CONFIRM THIS.

If he cannot provide this name and we affirm it happened then we have our conclusion.

cc HardMirror, hopefullandlord

KingEbukasBlog:
Waste of broadband ? Please how does someone exhaust broadband ?

Seun:
Yea, and I think in the case of religious people it's due to their insecurity. Atheists didn't aggressive when TheSixthSense posted this thread.

Cherry picking

Lennycool:
Please what do you want to tell me?
Buddhism is an atheistic religion but you can add your own Gods if you want to. It just doesn't have any specific God.
And in the case of Steve jobs, he was purely atheistic.

Buddhism is a introspection based religion and Atheism is not. It is religion in a sense of a particular system of faith in Buddha’s teachings whereas Atheism has nothing specific outside of the concept of there being no god.

As per my experience, there are some Buddhist who are atheist and some are theist but the idea of pragmatic agnosticism remains same in both cases.

promise10:
no bro, you didn't do that well. I have something better to offer.

@CEOMYN welcome to the world of unreasonable people, where depression, loneliness, madness over an imaginary God rules. welcome! cheers!

He is already experiencing it and complaining.

otemanuduno:
It takes you and you alone to make yourself happy. Just start living your new life (but without depression). You are supposed to be happy that there isn't any Skygod looking at you and recording your life with scrolls(archaic stuff--not even a IPAD of high terabytes). However, the GOD that is is the UNIVERSE(NATURE) and we are part of NATURE and the UNIVERSE, therefore we are gods automatically.

cheer up brother.

High terabytes

Seun:
T[b]hat's evidently not true[/b]. The aggressive way you folks are behaving on this thread will only create more atheists.

Haaaaa Seun why are you lying for atheism? You say Atheistic aggression toward young chrstians is non existent?

CeoMYN:
I think I will be fine by tomorrow.

Since you knew you would be fine by tomorrow why then did you open the thread and say the things you said? You should have punched a wall instead ...perhaps the pain wwould bring back some consciousness and sense into your teenage head....

Tomorrow as well you join the bandwagon of those who claim to be scientific and being critical thinkers when you are even still fresh in puberty.

Fix your brokenness and stop whining!

CeoMYN:
I was a christian then, but Otemanuduno made me think out of the box. I don't hate your God because it doesn't exist.

So as a teen you already know everything Yet you are in depression about your parents and yourself. Check yourself before you wreck yourself kid. You are already wrecking it.

CeoMYN:
I have answered him.

It baffles me that you claim not to have friends and are lonely and depressed but when friendship is offered to enable you add to your repertoire of non existent friends you back away.

You say the Doctufos brought you here and then within a short while you now claim you are an atheist and a God hater. What drew you to the doctufos in the first place because you were drawn to it that means you were not an atheist then.

However you are a teenager and it is mind boggling the degree of hatred you expressed in your OP at this young age.

Now you went on and began talking about cultists and the army and your environment as if you are any different or better than they are when inside of you, you are just as bitter and angry as they are.

How can you love when all you see is hate? How can you not hate when you deliberately reject love when offered? Your parents and sibblings arent stupid to desire communion and comfort in love and God.... You were offered a warm bed, hot meals, a leak free roof over your head and you chose the cold chill of the night and the emptiness it comes with.

Like kingebukasblog said, atheism is transitive so for me i would not see you as an atheist....I would see you as a conflicted teen who allowed himself to be misled.

A conflicted teen who ought to be using his youth progressively in pulling his family together, rather he is pulling away from them

A conflicted teen who knows he needs help but refuses to accept it when offered. Thats suicide...and for people like you abroad..thats what it often leads to.

jonbellion:
there is no burden
The young man has come to grips with reality
It's just that he's taking it so hard

Let him speak for himself if you wouldnt mind. People heal faster when they are allowed to express themselves and you are not helping. Besides i know you said this because you think i just might get him to a place of doing a u turn on his decision but that is not my desire. Choices are never forced or they would be slavery. He has control of his....

CeoMYN:
Let it just be here

Then there is nothing i can do. So Sorry!

Look at it this way, I can come on here and rant and cry and curse but when done and i shut down my computer, i am back to being alone and depressed ...has my problem gone away?

Even after i pour my heart out to another would it change the scenario and events i am complaining about or alter the spiritual state of my family? When i log out i would be back to being alone...

People use their tongue to count their teeth. I advice you do same.

CeoMYN:
The real thing is that my environment, my town is insane.
Not only socially.
I don't really know how to put them, I just got contrasting views with people. They are still in the old ways.
My head isn't clear right now.
The main thing I stand for is doing the right thing but the orientation is bad in this part of the country.
Let me just give you examples of those contrasting views.
1. Cultists were killing people freely in my town. Everyone was like the government should grant them amnesty, but I wanted the army to crush them so that those boys will stop carrying their shoulders high.
2. I believe in the military way of doing the right thing. Making sure it's done even by force but here they don't care if you are behaving bad until it affects them.
3. My town is filled with people who have been bought by the lies of the our stupid reps, but I wish they could gain sense.

All these I'm afraid to tell because I fear for my life. It's point and kill over here.

4. I'm wish we can work together and make our town a better place but everyone is selfish.

Atheism just made it worse, you know why?
It's because of my parents they are strict and very religious of lately, my elder bro and sis too. They are going to change their views about me.

Ok so you are most likely in Rivers State. Like i said, what tangible help could be given to you via a faceless online forum? If indeed you are in Rivers State then its easy to help lift this burden off you. Buts its up to you though. I definitely wouldnt want to force myself or my helping hand on you.

CeoMYN:
I tried organising myself but the environment is not sane.

Listen kid it would be too easy to ask you to unburden your heart or to ask you to share what your views are that people do not share with you ....but that would not be the solution. Just listening to you without fixing the deeper problem would not make the surface problem go away. So i will not ask you to tell me what the real issues are here but would rather opt to make it a bit more personal....yeah thats how nice i can be.

Can we take this out of this place? I have an identity i never hide as i see no reason for that so do not pretend. I would understand if you refused to take this talk out of this place but hey what have you got to loose?

This thread has got 68 views already and of these 68 people who have viewed i seem to be the only one genuinely offering transparent friendship and help.

Wanna give it a shot?

CeoMYN:
I just need to be in a sane environment, I dnt dread or detest you. I'm angry at myself, true am lonely. But atheism didn't cause that.

I deliberately put "dread" there as i knew that would get your attention and it did

Listen...We create our world and unmake them. You cannot have a sane environment without first wanting to be sane yourself. Its like taking a wild animal into an organized house and setting it free...You can imagine the chaos..However when you make a conscious effort to first train and condition the animal to the environment then it would help keep it sane.

You need to first organise yourself internally which was why i said what i said in my first comment. I am offering friendship. At least let me see if i can help bring some sanity into your environment. A listening ear, an idea sharer etc

Being angry at yourself is normal and you are not the first who has been but making a choice to do something about it is the crux of the matter.

Can we be friends?

CeoMYN:
Words can't tell how angry I am right now for haven believed in God , I'm mad at myself for believing a lie for almost two decades till this year.
Right now I want a sane environment! I'm fvcking looking for the slightest chance to tell my parents who Clinton is. I'm a teen and that's going to be hard because they have become more religious recently.
I'm getting mad! No one to share my feelings with! I'm hiding it!
I don't want to die with depression and loneliness! I need a sane place!
To all those evangelists out there TFU!

So you are a Teen and you are angry and your anger is at who?

1. Your parents?

2. Your parents for becoming more religious lately

3. For believing in God for almost 2 decades

You only have one diagnosis and that is emotional tantrum and chronic depression. Atheism tends to lead one to loneliness and depression and isnt the fault of your parents, neither is it Gods fault.

Its a choice you made. You chose loneliness and depression when you chose Atheism so be a man, suck it up and enjoy or endure it. You cannot keep painting a wall with black paint and expect it to become a white wall. You choose what you become so get with the program.

Or

You can be like your Parents and enjoy warmth and affection and communion as a family thereby eschewing depression. Ultimately the choice is yours. If you wish to be angry at God for another 200yrs how would that affect God? Can you punch Him? Can you spit on Him? Can you shoot Him?

He is way beyond your reach and you would only end up hurting yourself and become suicidal. I could be your friend if you like. Even though i know you dread and detest me but i am still open to being your friend.

Surrounding yourself with so much anger and bile isnt even medically advisable and is spiritually destructive. What do you say?

uvalued:
if truly he claims he did all the miracles, speaking in tongues... i pray he has not entered this state captured vividly in Hebrews 6


its not fear promoing but a word of concern

Thats the point he has gotten to. Pride in them is 100%, Rage is 100%, Deception is 100%, Lying against God is 100%

Only they can return to God by themselves. Very soon he would start declaring himself as God.

uvalued:
what baffles me is how an athiest can CONFIRM that

miracles ARE NOT real but real
christian supernatural IS NOT real BUT real

this has given me a fresh perception that we can have athiest that will believe in unscientifically unverified unempirical evidence such as the supernatural.

This is the thing bro. The Bible speaks of people like him in Romans 1 vs 16 to 32

[b]16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.[/b]

In the absence of God the devil takes over. There is no vacuum allowed. His vacuum has been occupied which is why he spits lies and has become reprobate

plaetton:
Lol.

Epain am.
Not surprised.
Every big idea threatens you mental Lilliputians.

Again, comprehension comprehension.
Sincerely, you have a problem with the English comprehension.
You seem to choose how you understand a given statement or statements.

I see no contradiction whatsoever in what I have written.
Read again and try to at least understand what I saying.
I wasn't trying to make an argument, but a discussion.

Every idea beyond your grasp seem to threaten you and silly stone age craps that encumber your mind.

Trying to use what you assume are big words show your mental devolution. Real people speak clean and easy but let me indulge you and come down to your leprechaun state.

You say you were trying to make a discussion? Based on what? A hypothesis or a fact? You were well understood by me as speaking utter drivel. In your attempt to understand God and reasoning him out you are beginning to sound like a "mad scientist".

You think evolution predates God? How can simplicity produce complexity? Show me where this has ever been scientifically enacted? Even DNA is complex and as tiny as it is is yet to be fully understood and here you are mouthing off like you went back into time and documented it and then went to the future and also documented that and then returned to the present when you have not even left your text book.

I look at people like you and all i can say is..

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plaetton:
Very possible, much like the religious God.
But, whereas the religious God is credited with creating everything from nothing, this supreme neural network that we hypothesize about has to be a product of evolution itself, because it feeds and grows and evolves through the feedbacks from its dispersed neural units.
In other words, if God is our minds and in our minds, then God is growing and evolving through our experiences.

First its a Hypothesis then you are sure it has to be a product of evolution. How confused art thou small man? All this hogwash you bandy around all in a bid to appear a being of deep knowledge capable of reasoning with God and even putting Him in a bottle.

Neural this and Neural that like your physical body has a nervous system that crosses over to the spiritual thereby bringing the spiritual to nothing.

What a world of deluded folks we live in

uvalued:

Are you smiling? I have known him to be a con job but have just been observing from the sidelines because God has a way of enabling people to expose themselves with their own hands.

He claimed to be a Super pastor and extremely popular in his alleged Pastoral days and planted lots of churches and got over 300 converts etc But wait...300 people can only fit into a small hall so how did he arrive at ranking himself so highly?

Meanwhile since he was so popular and even mentioned the school he graduated from how come he could not mention his name. There are people here who also graduated from the same school same time as he did who would have known him but he cannot mention his name especially since his whole story is a lie.

He even mentioned a certain believer who died of complications from fasting and a nairalander who also graduated in 2010 from the same school called him out asking for the name of the person who died since he was also from there but he never answered that question.

The guy is a fraud and a good story writer and if you check his threads here on NL you will see the stories e has concocted which he initially passed around as truth but later opened up that it was all lies. However if he had not said they were lies you would have believed them as truth.

Right here i see someone who saw his lie get out of control so allowed it to fester and pretend it was the truth and if he now says its a lie he would lose face. The guy is a bold faced liar.

Thank God the thread was pushed to the FP a second time at least everyone can also see the lies as they have been seeing already.

CeoMYN:
Chill, I only told the girl not to talk to you offline.

Thanks for admitting you said it! But seriously

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KingEbukasBlog:
lalsticlala , mynd44

This one needs to hit front page ooo

Government of dem dem by dem dem for dem dem

Lennycool:
What are you saying?
You asked why they have not found life, I indicated that it would be very hard, since it's a billion+ since life might have gone extinct on these planets, yes there's hope, but its slim and won't be easy to find

Young man you lack depth when thinking! Honestly you do! Have you ever paused to ask yourself how it was that evolutionists theorized that evolution took billions of years to occur?

Has anyone witnessed the time it took? If your answer is no then how did they arrive at the BILLIONS OF YEARS statement?

Let me give you a hint and that hint is found in your own comment which i highlighted
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The Billions of years escape route offered as the time evolution took to occur is simply what it is ...an escape route so that wen people ask these questions i am asking people like you would always fall back to the Billions of years escape route.

However you claim life may have gone extinct on those planets but you forget that the same scientists say the earth is also billions of years old yet life has not gone extinct here so how come it "may" have gone extinct on others? Ogbeni use your head. People like you are the reason why my brain function is still at 10% when it should have been hitting 50% by now.

You Atheists always demand that God should heal an amputee so you believe he exists yet God has raised the dead. However if i asked you to show me my Dog turning to a homo sapien or even to another specie as proof that creation did not occur you all would run and hide behind the BILLIONS OF YEARS escape route.

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jonbellion:
so you somehow think that in a vast universe earth would be the only inhabitable planet ehn
When drakes equation shows a high probability of other life on the milky way galaxy alone you think in an even broader universe this would be the only planet with life
Lol
What a complete waste of space
At least science is honest enough to say no life had been found in any other planet in our solar system so far.
Don't worry

Issorait
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lmao so now its drakes equation? You guys never cease to shock me at your level of closemindedness. You believe all the junk science dumps on you without verification while we the theists test the words of God we receive and practice them (experiment) so see if they are true and yet you call us closeminded.

Pray tell me the formula drake used for his equation? Someone has not seen the other planets in the milky way galaxy neither do they know the surface conditions yet he is pushing forward a theory? lmao

Man has not finished studying earth and has not even come close to explaining her existence and he is yapping about life elsewhere and you are soaking it all in from your armchair.

First it was Lennycool who talked about some Panspermia and how life transfered from planets like mars and venus to earth but he failed to sit in his armchair to ask some very important questions which are,

1: At what stage was this life when it transferred from these planets to earth afterall these planets are older than the earth so if evolution were true then those life forms should have evolved too while on those planets or is it only on earth that evolution occured?

2: If these other planets are far older than the earth and have life forms on them are those life forms still crude and scientifically backward not to also assume that there may be life on other planets as well and attempt to reach out to us along with other assumed life containing planets? Earth has advanced communication systems that penetrate far into space so how come they have not intercepted any signals?,

So is earth the only intelligently advanced planet?

Sometimes i wonder if you guys really are critical thinkers.


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Tenniebenson:
Sighs... What can I say? Just so pathetic...
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I got to know there are many atheists the moment I joined nairaland.. And what I have come to understand about this forum is this... If you want to be heard.. Renounce Christ.. If you want to live in sin freely.. Nairaland is d best place to get supporters.. If you want to feel accepted.. Just come to nairaland and say there is no God.
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Like I said in my one time comment.. I am not sorry to say this.. Or being heartless.. But it would be nice to see you all atheists and agnostics scream and shout in the lake of fire.. "I wish I had listened".. I never said u shld believe there is God.. As for me? I need to make heaven so I can look at you all and shake my head.. Saying.. Do you still think there is no God?
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Don't quote me.. I hate wasting time on blind ppl.

cc hopefullandlord. This is one out of many just to buttress my point. This thread being on FP has further worked in the furtherance of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

God is a chief tactician.

Lennycool:
You clearly don't know anything about it.
Panspermia is talking about life coming from asteroids that impacted earth billions of years ago. Asteroids from other planets, maybe even from mars or Venus. These planets might have once had life that later died.
How do you expect to find life after a billion+ years?
Not even steal structures would last that long, let alone biological matter.

Oga carry your armchair textbook theories and go and flush it down some septic tank abeg

Life from other planets yet biologists say Bacteria as resilient as it is can survive on Mars yet there is no single sign of life on Mars

Wait let me help you with links since you like text book theories so well. Pls make sure you have a pillow under your butt as you sit in your armchair to read this.


http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-01/earth-bacteria-can-survive-and-grow-extremely-hostile-mars-conditions

http://www.iflscience.com/space/microorganisms-earth-could-survive-mars/

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20151221-the-microbes-so-extreme-they-might-survive-on-mars


I am just reading your ignorance and laughing hysterically


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hopefulLandlord:
Damogul

you must have a very good reason for indulging Hardmirror here

I thought you said you need another thread for that which I created and even gave you link?

or are you now attempting to derail this thread, something you said you wanted to avoid before?

He wrote here as well so i felt obliged to respond here too. Meanwhile there is what is called "the leading of the spirit" which i am sure Hardmirror if he was truly an ex believer would know about. You hurriedly ran to open a thread for his lie exposures but God had other plans. God decided to cause a Mod to push his thread for the second time running to the front page so that not only me could see the lies and declare it but every other believer without me even lifting a finger to type a single letter.

I am sure you can see the impact his thread has caused. If you cannot let me give you a few,

1: The waking up to responsibility by Believers

2: The awareness of the goings on on Nairaland

3: The awareness of the agenda of Seun, Atheists and Satanists on this forum

4. Serving as a reminder to the brethren that God is real and is coming again

5. Repeated comments and identifications by believers of his lies

You see what you thought was for evil God turned it around for good and this is why sometimes we as humans do not see or know it all. We plan but God has other plans.

I saw how you were jumping around like a jack rabbit acting like Hardmirrors bodyguard and attacking everyone who said anything contrary. Lots just read, and went away as the thread wasnt worth their time.

A man who could claim to have 300 converts and know them all by name is a liar, a man who could claim to heal the sick ( which means they were healed) then says its a lie...he himself is a liar

I thank God for the life of that Mod who felt the urge to push the thread to the front page as the bible declared in Romans 8 vs 28;


Romans 8:28 New King James Version (NKJV)

28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

This worked out extremely well for the kingdom.

Thank you for helping spread the gospel.

Lennycool:
Technically its eight planets, Pluto isn't classified as a planet anymore
Have you read about panspermia, a theory that life could have come from space?
I doubt it.
I don't swallow o examine. While you simply believe in your bible because you were raised to believe in your bible. What does that say about you, that what you're currently arguing on is simply the view that was forced on you by your society.
You were born with a religion and you're now defending it.

Life COULD have come from space yet there has been no sign of life from space that science has brought forward despite the trillions of dollars they have sunk in search of it.

Hope you dont mind me eating my popcorn while you continue with your science fiction tale

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HardMirror:
If not that they have eyes but can't see, even the Azo I mentioned in my story showed up on the thread, 3 other FUTA alumni's showed up on the thread. All the people I mentioned are real and ASF is still in FUTA, just take the story there and they will tell u who hardmirror is. Christians here can call me anything they like, fact remains I am yet to meet any of them that has achieved half of what I have achieved. How many of them have over 300 converts they know by name and thousands of converts they don't know by name. How many churches have they opened? How many outreaches or crusades have they held. How long can they tarry in prayer? How many days do they fast in a year. Do they fornicate? Many of them here are chronic sinners claiming to be christians, reason why I don't even take them serious.

You claimed to have achieved so much...yet you are now a gambler! A baba ijebu pundit! How low can a man sink?

Some of us do not toot our horns as loudly as expected but i am sure you know i am older than you are and have been in ministry for a little over 20yrs. Listing out achievements is easy but finishing well is Harder and thats what real men do.

When a man lays a foundation he should be man enough to finish the building and not chicken off when faced with a bit of hardship at the foundation level.


I for one being one who has sat and received from the late Idahosa i would rather work the work while it is still day. Prayer duration can never replace a relationship with God via his Spirit which you clearly lacked.

You wanted Miracles forgetting that it is a gift given by God. He gives some working of miracles, some faith, some diverse tongues, some interpretation, some word of knowledge some word of wisdom...I have word of knowledge, faith and working of miracles (this much i am sure of) and i use it effectively for the work of my father and i see results daily.

Can a man outrun his shadow? I do know by the witness of the holy spirit that lies litter your claims but i still smile as even that shows your desperation to be relevant even after running like a chicken from the Kingdom of God you thought you belonged.

PDBonline:
Niflheim, I didn't want to bother answering your question because it's obvious you're mocking in your own eyes.

But let me help you a little:

GOD DOES NOT DO FOR MAN WHAT HE HAS GIVEN YOU ABILITY TO DO FOR YOURSELF.

If you need God to know that neither you nor the poo, the rat, or the sanitary pad is your God, then why did you think God gave you a brain?

See finishing!

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