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YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO OFFER

Acts.3.6 - Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee....

Peter had no money on him, but looking at the lame man, he knew he could still help. Though he didn't give him money, but what he gave helped the man out of his predicament.

Sometimes, we focus so much on what we don't have that we forget about the things we have and what we can offer. We compare our lives with others and sometimes feel inferior when we discover they have so much.

You don't need to have all the money in the world before you touch lives and make a difference. You can offer prayers for others, engage in offer voluntary services, start up an N.G.O, use your gift's and talent's to serve God and humanity e.t.c. YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO OFFER.

Glory to God

CharisEleos:
Amen.
I believe.

hallelujah

LET HIM DO IT

1Thess.5.24 - Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

A lot of Christians are so stressed out thinking about when their miracles would manifest, and this can give room to doubt.

Now God is faithful to his word. For you to command the faithfulness of God, you need to lay hold of the promises in his word, because the only thing he watches over to perform is his word. Jer 1:12, psalm 89:34.

When we take sides with God's word by aligning our words and action to it, God steps in Mark 16:20. As you hold on his word today, he will do it. So relax.

budaatum:
You are obviously not under any obligation to discuss anything with me, so when you've had enough you know what to do, but while you are here, we are simply looking at this from completely different positions.

To start with, who is Malachi to fathom the mind of God? Is he not writing his own opinion just as you and I are doing?

God dislikes a lot of things, clearly, and even hates a lot of things that we humans do, like murder, not loving ones neighbour and such like, but that does not mean God hates the murderer or those who don't love their neighbours, is my own opinion, just as we too are not meant to hate murderers or those who do not love their enemies. That of course does not mean we would not be punished for such sins, but to claim God's love is conditional implies one can fulfil conditions to win God's love, which I very much doubt despite the fact that we must still do that which God requires us to do.

The world that God loved and sent his only begotten Son to come and save might give you a clue. It was clearly a world that did not fulfil whatever conditions one might think God might have, hence the need for Christ, yet God clearly still loved it so much that God sent Christ to save it, hence fulfilling whatever conditions God might have God's self.

We can not fulfil the conditions regardless how much we might try, hence Grace, is what I think, for as [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Isaiah%2064%3A6]Isaiah is written to have said[/url], "we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away". Note, "our righteousnesses" are as filthy rags, how much more an unrighteous sinner like myself, how can I possibly fulfil any conditions God might set in irder to win God's love? Yet here I am, loved by God regardless, unless you'd like to claim otherwise of course.

But its ok by me if you understand it different to how I do, for as I said about Malachi, who am I to fathom the mind of the Almighty God. So please have a most blessed and wonderful day. God loves you unconditionally is what I think.

praise God.

Kobojunkie:
So, we agree that unconditional love is a human delusion then. Good!

it's not on my post you guy's will form an alliance and agree on unscriptural truth. God bless you.

Kobojunkie:
I know what it means but it certainly has nothing to do with the word "unconditional" for me. So you have to explain to me how it resolves to that.

am not explaining anything, pls go and check your dictionary or concordance. thank you

Kobojunkie:
Remember, we are looking here for reference to, not just love, but unconditional love?

Jesus Christ's death for the sinners is conditioned in their believing in Him. In fact, in John 15 vs 13 -14, Jesus Christ states that His died for His friends- those who do what He commands them to do

now I know your interest is twisting Scriptures. Your seeing the truth of God's word but your chose to be blind. So you mean Jesus died for already righteous people? How dare you say Christ death is conditioned on the people believing him? Did he die for us before we believe? Please study the scriptures properly.

Kobojunkie:
Remember, we are looking here for reference to, not just love, but unconditional love?

doesn't the phrase 'ungodly' or 'sinner' connotes ant thing to you?

Kobojunkie:
You are right.. it is indeed confusing.

So, instead I ask this. Does the Bible indeed tell you that Love is unconditional or do you assume it to be so from your interpretation of that which is written?

And this is what my bible say's

Rom.5.6 - For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom.5.7 - For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

Rom.5.8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

[quote author=Myer post=103155327][/quote]you have to understand the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant. The old covenant was based on work's and law's. Do good and get good, do bad and get bad, eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth. You had to win God over by doing his status why? Because there was no grace then. So you cannot be saved then without keeping and following the law of moses.

Now concerning Esau, you have to understand that that was also in the old testament. Now Esau was such a bad boy then. He sold his birthright for as little as a plate of porridge. Knowing fully well what that entails. He further upset his parents by marrying a strange woman. Men that guy was foolish. Before God would say he hate someone, then know that person is so foolish. He didn't hate him as a person, he was disgusted by his character

Now in the new covenant, cos God is a God of love, salvation is available to all. John 3:16. The old was to give birth to the new.

God the father loves the world, and he has proved it by giving his son. He has nothing to prove again.

Now love is not selfish, we should love people no matter what. But we should know when our love and simplicity is been taken for granted. When people are trying to manipulate and use us. Look at Jesus, there were times he was so soft, and there were times he was tough and firm

Kobojunkie:
1. Can we at least start with pointing out exactly where the Bible teaches you that Love is unconditional.

2. In Jeremiah 17 vs 5, God declared cursed any man who puts his trust in another man(including self) , and by that your definition of genuine unconditional for man implies those who genuinely love you are those cursed by God.

3. The love God has called us to is not according to your definition though. It is instead a kind born of trust in the Almighty.

please sir you questions seems confusing.

budaatum:
And yet, Oh, when the rain fall, fall, fall now,
It don't fall on one man's housetop.
Remember that:
When the rain fall,
It don't fall on one man's housetop.

Experience has shown that God loves unconditionally just as we are also taught to unconditionally love our enemies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZp-LLfDSc4

very good

THE BELIEVERS IDENTITY

John.13.35 - By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

How would the world know that we are Children of God? Is it through signs and wonders? Although that's a way also, but don't forget the devil also does signs and wonders. Matt24:11.

The major way the world would know that we are God's Children is our Love walk. The devil and his Children can't love. They can pretend to, but they just can't. And even when they do, its for their selfish interests. because love is God.1John4:8.

It's selfishness to love only those that love us. We are to love everyone with wisdom of cos. If it is conditional, or has a price tag, it is not love. The proof of love is the sacrifice you make 1 John3:18.

I don't like this......why nobody post this before now so that one could look forward to it. But if it is Reginal Daniel, you people will just shove it on our faces.

Kobojunkie:
Did God somehow tell you that you should ONLY obey His Laws that are written on tablets of stone?

Jesus Christ is the Word directly of God's Mouth to you , delivering to you a New Covenant, a Law/standard for living in the Kingdom of God.

Instead of the Old commandments, He gave you new measures by which to weigh yourselves....

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1. Instead of “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” , Jesus Christ declared that you cannot serve two masters - Matthew 6 vs 24.

2. Instead “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”, Jesus declared that no harm will come to those who insult Him or God, but only to those who insult the Spirit of God, an act He deemed unforgivable - Mark 3 vs 28 - 30.

3. Instead of "Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day", Jesus Christ declared “The Sabbath day was made to help people. People were not made to be ruled by the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord of every day, even the Sabbath.” - Mark 2 vs 27 - 28, essentially doing away with the need for a holy day.

4. Instead of "Honor your mother and Father that your days may be long in the land that He have their fathers...", Jesus Christ instead declared that only those who abandon their parents and families for His sake are worthy Him and eternity in His Heaven - Luke 14 vs 26.

5. Instead of “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”, Jesus Christ declared that even by simply lusting in your heart, you are already guilty of adultery - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 30

6. Instead of “Thou shalt not steal. ” , Jesus Christ declared that if you have in your hand something that your neighbor has need of, don't tell him to come tomorrow, give him that which he asked for - Matthew 5 vs 42

7. Instead of "Thou shall not Kill", Jesus instead declared that “You have heard that it was said to our people long ago, ‘You must not murder anyone.[a] Any person who commits murder will be judged.’ But I tell you, don’t be angry with anyone. If you are angry with others, you will be judged. And if you insult someone, you will be judged by the high court. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell." - Matthew 5 vs 21 - 23

8. Instead of "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor", Jesus Christ declared, " But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." - Matthew 12 vs 36 - 37
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And He declared that only those who will submit to and obey His teachings and Commandments are those who belong to Him.

omg! But I just showed you from the scripture that every thing, all these laws are summed up in love. What else do you want? I just showed you something that everyone would grasp easily. Love is the New testament law.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is the Law promised by God through the Prophets, God's Truth,
the embodiment of the Law in the Kingdom of God.

His very teachings contain the details of the Law - the very terms and conditions by which we are meant to live our lives in the Kingdom of God by.

Matthew 23 vs 1- 36, are just some of the curses that impact the lives of those who are of His Kingdom but refuse to submit to and obey His teachings and commandments.

how is Jesus Christ the law? Laws that was written on tablets of stone?

Any way, check out this scripture

Rom.13.8 - Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom.13.9 - For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom.13.10 - Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Kobojunkie:
What do you think the word "New Testament" means? The very title of the Section clearly reveals that a New Covenant/Law is revealed in its pages, yet you never realized even this?

So when Jesus Christ declared that those who are His friends are those who Obey His laws, did you simply brush it off as Jesus Christ being high on something?

OK sir, what is the law?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ literally promised all those who will follow Him suffering and Tribulation but here you declare that these things are common to men?

Read this two scriptures sir,

1Cor.10.13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Mark.10.30 - But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Kobojunkie:
What?

You dont know that the New Covenant is styled by God in much the same way as the Old Covenant, complete with blessings curses, seal, commandments, ritual/ceremony, eligibility, Kingdom. and even a name by which the Covenant can be invoked?

And here I was scolding someone of another religion of missing that.

sir there is no law in the new testament. What we might call a law, which is the life style of the believer, is Love.

Rom.8.1 - There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom.8.2 - For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Gal.5.22 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal.5.23 - Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Op, your just one sided on this. God is never partial, he wants the best for all his Children. But you see, life is principles. You can be very Holy but if you don't work, you won't eat. The Children of the world apply these principles and get result but most times, Christians just sit down, fold their hands, and expect God to wave his magic wand and then thing's would just fall on them. No, Holiness won't take the place of work, socializing, etc

And secondly, don't make it sound like these things only happen to Christians. No, they are common to man. Both Christians and none Christians face these Challenges. The difference is that the Christian can apply the Principles of God's word and scale through.

Lastly, the system of the world supports or encourages sin. And if you want to maintain your Christian standard, you will face opposition.

Kobojunkie:
Because they are not under Law and so not bound by consequences of the Law, including curses .
You see, what your Mogs fail to warn you is that when you make a decision to become of God by believing in Jesus Christ, you entire existence is brought subject to the Law of the New Covenant, the blessings and the curses.

kobojunkie u Don start o, which curse in the new testament? From what you're saying now it is not good to be a Christian abi? Please this your teaching will chase people from Christ because if I was not a believer, I would never serve an unfair God who will curse his Children.

FAITH HALL OF FAME

Heb.11.40 - God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

If we read from verse one of Hebrew 11, we would see a lot of old testament folks that made it to Faith hall of fame.

These men did tremendous things in the name of God. They were not perfect, but they made a difference.

But you know what? Without us they won't be complete.They are waiting for us, because there is room for us.

Not all Christian will be an all of famer because it is based on your work for God. The sacrifices you make now, not just for God but for humanity at large is what makes you a faith hall of famer.

Kobojunkie:
1.. The message from God was given directly to Cornelius, a man already serving God but had yet to recieve the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. Cornelus was asked to go contact Peter, which He did.

Again, this Op however came to you stating that God sent third parties to him in the name of God, to tell him God had "chosen" him, not the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. Note how this here does not even begin to fit with the Cornelius example in anyway or form? undecided

2. Peter never identified Cornelius a sinner - Acts 10 vs 34 - 43. In Acts 10 vs 35, Peter acknowledges realization that God accepts anyone who worships Him and does what is right. So, how you came about your claim that Cornelius was a sinner is not contained in that context.

Again, The description of the man Cornelius was that of a religious man who worshipped the true God, a man who gave much of what he had to the poor, praying all the time. Cornelius was not a man who did not already know God. - Acts 10 vs 1 - 2 & Acts 10 vs 30- 32

3. So according to you, the OP here is not a sinner and so you ascribe the Holy Spirit to His case, but because God sent an Angel to Cornelius means Cornelius was a sinner?

4. The "move" of which spirit? Jesus Christ told you what the Spirit that comes from Him and from the Father would do. But here you are ascribing other work to the Spirit of God, this against God mind you.

here you go again, so Peter had to tell Cornelius that he was a sinner abi? So the way you preac salvation is to tell people they are sinners?

When the gospel comes, it exposes your need for salvation. You don't have to tell people they are sinners. When they hear the word, they will know their position.

Fasting, praying, calling on the God of Is real won't save you... Like Cornelius did. Only receiving Jesus will.

Now, know this distinction in the new testament. When it wants to refer to a Christian, you will always hear certain disciple or believer but when it comes to unbelievers it would say a certain man or woman.

Kobojunkie:
1. The description of the man Cornelius was that of a religious man who worshipped the true God, a man who gave much of what he had to the poor, praying all the time. Cornelius was not a man who did not already know God. - Acts 10 vs 1 - 2 & Acts 10 vs 30- 32

2. According to the story, God sent an angel, not His Spirit, in the form of a vision to Cornelius - Acts 10 vs 3 - 4.

3. Also, the message was sent by God to Cornelius himself and not to a third party to then deliver it to Cornelius. This Op however came to you stating that God sent third parties to him in the name of God. Note how this here does not even begin to fit with the Cornelius example in anyway or form?

was peter who delivered the msg of salvation to him not a 3rd party? We all are 3rd parties.

No matter how you paint it, Cornelius was a sinner. He would have gone to hell like that, despite his good works or because he worshipped the God of Isreal. That's why God spoke to him by an angel supernaturally, even though he was a sinner, and sent peter to communicate the gospel to him.

It's like you don't believe on the move of the Spirit of God.

And all your saying or what am understanding from your write up is that God cannot speak or relate to the sinner, which is all wrong.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but I dont see how any of this addresses any of the concerns I had with your responses. Again...

1. Where in the teachings of Jesus Christ did He teach that the Spirit of God "directs" those who do not even belong to Him let alone submit to and obey the teachings of Jesus Christ. ?

I ask this because the work of the Spirit of God as told us by Jesus Christ, where the world is concerned, is to convict the world of its sins..

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con·vict
/kənˈvikt/

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law.
"the theives were convicted of the robbery"

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...not call people to God.

2. So where do you get this idea that the Spirit of God is responsible for any of what the OP has described here?

Acts 10, God spoke to Cornelius through the angel. Cornelius was not even saved.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting claims you make there..

1. Where in the teachings of Jesus Christ did He teach that the Spirit of God "directs" those who do not even belong to Him let alone submit to and obey the teachings of Jesus Christ. ?

I ask this because the work of the Spirit of God as told us by Jesus Christ, where the world is concerned, is to convict the world of its sins..

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con·vict
/kənˈvikt/

declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law.
"the theives were convicted of the robbery"

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...not call people to God.

2. So where do you get this idea that the Spirit of God is responsible for any of what the OP has described here?

the Op did not tell you that he does not believe in Jesus, or has not accepted him.

You said something about him being a sinner. Do you know that if Jesus was on the earth now, you and I might have not believed in him? Why? Because he came for the sinners, those who were disqualified.. He called them, ate with them, went to their party, and yet did not sin.

Preaching sin won't save people ( digressing a little) or stop them from sinning. What saves people is the message of salvation. And what is it? Come to him as you are, and he will change you

Glory

Apostlekings:
Something keeps disturbing me inside my mind that God is calling me, sometimes I imagine myself preaching to people and performing miracles but I see this things as an imagination...

I told myself that if God is calling me the He will use a pastor, prophet, apostle evengelist or whatever to tell me...

To my greatest surprise up to five prayer warriors told me that today and they said to me, I can't run away from God Calling me...

its up to you, you could chose to answer or not, it won't cost God anything, but it will cost you. There's a lot of blessings attached to this. And God is not going to give you a sign again, he Don try. He has other Children to call and send also. Your an introvert by the way. And I think your Melancholic because we like analyzing things too much

Apostlekings:
Please make it for me to understand better..

Oga I don't understand you oo.

Yes I see it as a previlage to work for God, but my friends will be surprise to see me being an apostle to work for God, because they can't believe it, I'm worldly but I love God...
I do have feelings that God wants me to work for Him but I keep telling myself, I will only believe it when God will use someone to tell me to work for Him.. now God has used someone to tell me that, but I still need some prove from God...
The truth is that, even if God is calling me I want to be very sure....

Goodevening, hope ur fine? Alright. You see, when there's a call of God on your life for ministry, you will know. There will be that inner witness of the Holy Spirit in you.

You asked for confirmation and the Holy Spirit of God directed or led you to that prayer meeting where not only your call, but your ministry gift(Apostle) was unfold. You kept on asking, then the sweet Holy Spirit spoke through someone again confirming what he has told you earlier in your Spirit and through those women.

He is not going to use a trumpet to talk to you. He has already confirmed your call again and again. It is left for you to step out in faith, build your self spiritually so that the Holy Spirit can flow through you easily to others.

He has already spoken to you in the language he knows you will understand, he won't do more than that. He has given you the greatest privilege you would ever have. please what you should think on now is how to fulfill your ministry so as to be a blessing to others.

OVERCOME BY THE WORD OF YOUR TESTIMONY

Rev.12.11 - And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony......

Sharing our testimonies in our local assembly is important, but the above is talking about your confession of God's word.

I heard the testimony of a dear sister who was attacked by an armed bandit on a side walk. This sister have been taught the power of confessing God's word, and she has regularly confessed the 91st psalm.

All she called say was feathers, because
she couldn't quote the whole chapter nor the verse cause of shock,but just that word she uttered paralyzed the bandit and sent him running.

He said he will cover you with his feathers, this should be your testimony, this should be the word on your lips.

Glory to God