Tobechuckwu: I'm sure u are a Christian. Ask urself this question, why do u lock ur doors at night when u know God protects u? Churches were already on lock down so it highly risky to go there alone at night. U don't put it on God even though it's God's house neither the church because Churches are already on lock down. I'm not in support of such atrocity, but there should be some things to do. Even in university, girls go to read in groups at night or go along with guys because of safety. Service wasn't holding in church, so going there alone at night is risky.There was also d issue of curfew in the state as at that time. R. I. P to her nd I hope they find those evil men.
So you are blaming the girl for being raped in the house of a god?? The misogyny in your post is as high as the misogyny in your religious book!
KingAzubuike: Christians are very smart and cunny. If you ask a question they can't answer, they smartly throw it back at you. They will ignore the one that doesn't favor their argument and attend to the one that favors them.
PRE4: God is able and willing to deliver yet he knows best why he felt it should happen that way. Read Isa 59:1-2.She might be in the church,fine but God dwells in the heart not building.Her sins might have hindered God intervention or aby reason best known to God. Remember God delivered Daniel from the Lion's den,he also delivered Shadrach,Meshak and Abednego from the furnace. Is it now rape that he cant intervene? God cannot think as human does for his ways and thought are far above men.Isaiah 55:8-9
@emboldened,
This is some sick shit_! How can a human being reason like this in order to defend a god??
naptu2: It was a hit worldwide. It was even popular in Chile.
While I find this thread interesting I don't think you should have missed out the first rap album in Nigeria. This record was quite regular on JAJ on RN2 but I don't think it was a commercial success. In fact this album came out before Ron the Cat Ekundayos album which you put at number one.
The album was by Segun Robert and it was released in either late1979 or early 1980.
gensteejay: You and the person you quoted only cling to some aspects of Bhuddism.
Maybe in your ignorance, you feel all Buddhists are atheists.
In the link you gave, different beliefs of the Buddhists are stated there, such as reincarnation (rebirth), afterlife — beliefs some atheists regard as tripe.
I clearly stated that some Buddhists (influenced by Christianity and other factors) pray in Buddha's name.
cjfbn: Young man, We ask these questions because of our lack of knowledge of re-incarnation. God is perfect. Thus, his laws are also perfect. What you sow, you reap. Do you know of the past life of the girl in question? Why are some born blind and some born normal? Why some are born into rich families and some born into abject poverty. The answer to all these questions will cease when you get a good grip of creation as a whole. Peace
Kid, I asked a simple question and you went on a long winding off tangent answer. I have a simple piece of advise for you. If you don't know the answer to a question it is better to just keep quiet and wait for those who know the answer to come and give it. Using ad hominems to answer questions is one of the methods baby Christian's like you use to answer questions you don't know the answers to.
Just look at how you are casting aspersions on the poor girl that sought sanctuary in a church and god could not protect her. So in your silly logic the poor girl was raped and killed because of her past life? Let me tell you something this night,judgemental Christian's like you disgust me. Instead of sparing a moment to think about this poor girl who lost her life in a mindless assault you are here defending your god by ignorantly casting aspersions on the poor girls past life. And even if she was a prostitute in the past,does any human being deserve to die in such a manner? Please do not respond to this post Mr holier than thou christian because I will not respond!
Eulalia: Satan is a spirit. it obviously doesn't reside on this terrestrial habitat so there was no way he could have been affected by the flood. Besides the set time to destroy the devil has not come so he couldn't have been affected.
There's an appointed time for that.
Why are you worried about the devil anyways? You should be concerned about your own soul though.
So the all powerful and all knowing almighty god ignored satan who is the cause of sin and decided to destroy all mankind except Noah and his family and some animals. Very ingenious of this god. And after this flood,an omniscient god regretted his/her/its actions? Does this sound logical to you?
I have said it time and time again,none of these big time pastors believe in what is written in the bible and none of them truly believe god exists. The bible,the church,god and jesus are just methods through which they milk the people dry and in return supply the people with the opium of non existent hope in an utopia reward of a non existent heaven.
Eulalia: If I try to explain certain things to you, you might not get or even refuse to accept because your mind is already set to dispute and disagree to anything that pertains to God. And that will be a total waste of my time. First clear the bitterness you have towards God. Only then will any explanations make sense to you.
Shalom.
@ Bolded, 'christian speak',for :-I don't know the answer to your question,but my christian pride will not let me admit it. Let me consult my pastor!
Eulalia: You know well that is not what I'm talking about. Remember the devil is out perpetrating his own evil. So you may want to attribute that to the devil.
I am asking you a direct question. If god is omnipotent,omniscient and omnibenevolent and he is a loving creator god according to you Christian's. And he gave all his creations freewill according to Christian's.
The question follows,that why will such a god allow the university of Benin student who just got admission to study microbiology and decided to go and read in a CHURCH of her own FREEWILL and this god allows some ruffians to take this girl out of her space,rape her,assault her and finally break her head to pieces??!! How is such a being benevolent? How is such a being omniscient and omnipotent?? Is it the girl's FREEWILL that took her into a church to get raped? And this god stands aside and watched??
Eulalia: Bro Jiggaz. Oya. To you the spiritual elders. This one off me. Make I no lie. Though I believe God knows and allow somethings to happen for a purpose. Either for His name to be glorified or for Him to demonstrate His powers that the world may know that He's the only one and true God.
So god/yahweh/jehovah allowed that University of Benin female student to be abused and raped and slaughtered in HIS CHURCH and her head smashed to pieces for his name to be glorified and to demonstrate that he is the one and true god??!!
LordReed: As usual nonsensical excuses. Your god just watches a person get raped and murdered right in a church and says he'll deal with it later. That's absolute nonsense for a so called omnipotent god, omnibenevolent god.
The infantile responses of Christians on this thread is just bewildering but then I remember that to be a christian,you have to suspend all forms of rationality and just imbibe blind belief....
Missyajoke: Who was Moses first Son? Joshua? Caleb?
I doubt if you know at all or you can easily remember.
Gerahom was the first son of moses but we never heard anything about him.
This is the mistake made by Great men.
Most leave their Children behind while they train other man's children. They unconsciously invest in their young uneducated errand boy who go about with them. Little do such great men know, that while their children are watching TV at home and having nice time, the uneducated young errand boy goes aroud understudying and learning keys to success and greatness.
Little do mothers know that as the house girl stays in the kitchen and the kids sit in the living room watching tv, they are empowering the young uneducated village girl, and leaving their children behind.
Little does the pastor knows, that has he goes around to church investing in other's people childrenand he doesn't sit at home with his children discussing the word of God, he is like a man who is repairing another man's car when his own car needs serious attention. When he is done the other person will drive off while he will have no car to drive.
No wonder great men's kid become wayward, useless and cannot take over their fathers. Moses left his children behind with his wife and father in-law Jethro, while Joshua became his errand boy, watching different miracles. No wonder Joshua became the next leader of Israel.
Fathers, Mothers, Businessmen and women, don't leave your children behind. Carry them along. Stop training other men's children while yours stay back at home train Look around how many business have generational continuity? Let them become your PA even deputies Let people say they are following their father's step.
Religion is serious business. Every business man should train his children to take over the industry. It is not right for a business man to train other kids on the secrets of the business to the detriment of his blood children. Let's keep the industry in the family!
Jesterfly: Baba I'll try to respond to your bulleted reply as much as I can. Mind you, I didn't call you out for a deal I'd since moved on of, but cos Codyella was taken by most peeps here as a killjoy and someone hired or bought over to come spoil your business, I don't know her from Adam, just not happy with 90% of peeps here who are ready not to listen to both parties.
1.In the video review of the car you sent to me, you clearly said there was no rust, and I took your word for it, even when I showed a friend and he pointed out a rust to me, you waved it off as nothing serious. Here's a link to the video on your YouTube page https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jonz5CkObWY (I might get banned by the spam bot for this), listen to your words at the 38 - 40s timeline. As per the mechanic and panel beater you recommended which I later used, do you know it took almost 5 days for the panel beater to weld the rusted underneath, he didn't even finish all the rust work, i had to use another welder who use electric welding to do more of the rust work. I visit the mechanic every week for one issue or the other, one noise or the other. Some of the noises were linked to one broken part underneath the vehicle, and that would have to be welded. At a point, the mechanic advised me to sell the vehicle and ease my self of its numerous problems. I don't need to come back to you to say I've discovered another rust or another problem, when it is my cross to bear already, afterall you were not assisting in the bills.
2.I remember making and sending a video of the wet interior to you, until a panel beater discovered it to be from the moon roof months down the line, I don't need to bug you months after.
3. You clearly said the kickstarter was why it was not starting, and you also asked me not to get one till the vehicle arrives. I trusted in your words and went to the port with the kickstarter, just so I could drive the car home after fixing it, why would I not be prepared when you already told me confidently what the issue with the car was? Don't blame me for buying a kickstarter baba.
4. Being scammed on the highway was my fault, little wonder I didn't mention it in my first post. I also didn't mentioned where I changed all the 4 tyres cos they were worn and also didn't say I had to change the car battery. I also didn't mention where customs stopped me cos of underpayed duty, and I had to give them a good sum of money to free me. The overheating and changing of top Gasket could also be my fault. I never used only water in the radiator, right even until I sold the car. I also never used any other oil in the engine besides Castrol 5w-30 synthetic oil. So you can never say I didn't maintain the vehicle properly.
5. I recommended alot of peeps to you, but they all got disappointed with your response to them, it's either you snub them or you ignore them when they request a particular type of car. I contacted you last in March when I sold off the pontiac and requested another from you, but you laughed (don't know what that meant) first before you asked I send you a chat so it comes on top of everyother chat. I didn't continue the deal cos you didn't respond further after you said the one you first showed me has been sold.
The way you claimed a car has no issue is just misleading, we all buy in trust from you, but when we see something that is off what we were expecting, we get unhappy. You can't say "No known Issue" and the car comes with barrage of issues.
Jesterfly: Madam thank your stars, yours was battery and a recommended mechanic that didn't do what he was paid for, probably he dropped off the work for his boys who did a shaddy job on your car. Some of us here had it bad, but decided to keep our cool-the guy code thing. I paid for my Pontiac may/June last year, the car arrived August, it came clean both interior and exterior, admired by everyone who saw her on the road, but na only me wey wear the shoe know where e dey pinch me. Amdman claimed the car has no rust, in his own words "no rust at all", needs only a kick starter to start, no other issues. Omo, the issues wey that car get ehn, even devil go run leave am,had leaks from the moon roof, na so water go full inside the passenger & driver side whenever it rains or I wash it. I bought and took a kick starter (9k from ladipo auto market) with me to the port, got a mechanic there to fix it for 4k, alas the car didn't start after fixing it,obviously the kick starter wasn't the issue, had to tow it with 25k to my house cos allowing it to sleep in the port would incur more cost on me. I later got some auto electricians to make it start for 40k. That was the first phase of trying to bring the car to life, the next phase was fixing the rust underneath the vehicle, I've never seen so much rust on a car in my entire life. Fixed that too to an extend, before the car could stand to an appreciable standard for me. Every other month from August, I spend nothing less than 50k fixing one issue or the other on the car, the car was a nightmare to me. At a point I even changed top Gasket, cos it got burnt. I got tired of the car and sold it off at a give away price, when I called Amdman and told him I've sold my Pontiac, his first response was to laugh. I asked him to get me another (knowing fully well what I want & how to go about it this time around), he showed me 2 pix, but ignored me when I told him I want total inspection (underneath videos & pix, suspension, etc). So madam Codyella, fix what needs fixing and move on, you don't owe anybody a breakdown of what you've fixed or spent on the car, ignore that dingbat who was asking you to explain how you spent the 100k or shut up for life.
Eulalia: This is for the parents kicking strongly against tge reopening of schools. what exactly is their point? Is it to prevent the children from being exposed to the dreaded pandemic? Now, other sectors have been opened and fully operational (even though not round the week) but mind you, this same parents kicking against the reopening of schools expose themselves to crowded markets, offices (especially bank ATM points) and still come back home to the same wards they are trying to protect. What sense is there in all that. It only takes one exposed person to infect thousands of contacts if we are to go by the epileptic policy (of opening some sectors and not reopening some) and if this disease is still really that "widespread" according to popular beliefs. Take the case of a father who infected his entire family some months ago. Did the children go to any school?
Please let the educational sector also be reopened. Covid 19 has reduced to the bearest minimum and with the right precautionary measures in place, (like in 2014 Ebola crises) there won't be any rebound of the pandemic.
The teachers are the worst hit of this lockdown with no form of support or relief from the govt. If we all decide tomorrow to change career and quit teaching for good, then will people understand our importance and the need to always put us into consideration first before any other profession/als. Because we have been relegated to the shadows so much that some can no longer hold their heads high and proudly say they "i am a Teacher". I am a teacher and a proud one at that.
Without " Us" many of our parents won't attain the level of education they did today. Without "Us" the parents and society at large will not be able to travel to the abroad independently and be able to get good jobs or even put in for further studies abroad. They won't be here expressing their thoughts and feelings in black and white.
We are the medium to civilization. Without us, the world's future will be bleak and Ignorance will be the order of the day. Caveman loading... Marginalization of this countrys citizens by the white man imminent.
Keep underrating the teachers. A time is coming.... Nuf said.
IamMichael: We are talking about Nigeria, and he is talking about North Korea... After still stating that we are talking about christians. Is North Korea a Christian country? Next thing he starts spewing what he doesn't know about North Korea, and start comparing it with Nigeria, citing that North Korea is not a Christian country, yet... And then he will use it to justify whatever junk he has kept...and he thinks he is making a point.
Same person is asking me the correlation between subsidizing pilgrimage and underdevelopment in Nigeria. This person doesn't know that the million's of dollar's freely given for pilgrimages could have been used to build and equip hundreds of schools adequately and taken out of school children to school, or probably used in some other infrastructural development. This person doesn't know that such scarce resources could have been given to local producers to help boost their business or given to importers who are actually adding something to the economy.
This Same person also said that if no one teaches a child that devil is real, then the child will find out some other way. Do children grow up believing Santa Claus is real as adults?
Same person is the one still telling me that my thoughts are incoherent and that i am ignorant.
No reasoning, no rationality, no sense of logic or logical compartment. Just keep spewing every trash that enters their mind with no filter at all to check if what they're saying is reasonable or not. Almost like you took it upon yourself to prove me right that there is no intelligent christian on Nairaland!!!
No wonder Nigeria is this way.
See what i told you[b] @Dantedasz[/b]
Although that is only one person, the pattern is starting to emerge....
TheSourcerer: I posted about pastors/men of God , who convinced about 900 people to commit Sucide , imagine how Manipulative religion can be.
Many of these pastors don't believe in what they preach. It is just a means to an end-money and more money! The Guyana tragedy is an example of what indoctrinatuon and guilt tripping can cause. Many Christian's nowadays say it cannot happen to them but all the traits of pastor Jim Jones are in most of the general overseers of the churches they attend.
Rozz: hmm I wonder what her pastor must have preached to her.We need to apply our sense most times, the pastor may be far richer than her sef
Most are brainwashed and indoctrinated to feel guilty and dirty sinners. When they donate money to religion it kind of frees them from the guilt trip. Unfortunately there is no guilt trip in reality. She is only contributing to her pastor living a rock star life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Allow An Innocent Girl To Be Raped And Killed In His Church? by Dantedasz(m): 6:41am On Jun 03, 2020
