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Please I pray you never meet real thugs.

Some have a little compassion sha.

But real ones. . . kill and r.ape. . .

[quote author=Negro_Ntns]deepsight,

professionalism and ethics is pertinent to one's practice and not an obligation in personal comfort.

this man's action is personal comfort and not professional ptactice or conduct.[/quote]I can only assume that you wrote this shortly after arising from the very heavy and very inappropriate burden of a female street lunatic residing massively on your loins: wherein such a street lunatic somehow transferred her unfortunate condition from her groin into your very hapless mind: as indeed is what most women do to men behind closed doors; and sometimes in public; namely: take away their senses.

For I cannot in any other circumstance imagine by what weighty tragedy you could make such an unguarded statement to the effect that work in a Court Room office is "personal comfort", and not "professional practice or conduct"

Old boy, i like you for your Afro-centric rantings but please don't push it.

[quote author=tpia@]do you have any evidence the man was not, as a matter of fact, inside his breakroom, or on break.

you are simply maligning him, end of.


the major issue here is the lack of security on those premises.


how can every tom dick and harry be allowed in with a cameraphone?[/quote]Now you are truly, stark, raving, and drastically mad: and there is in fact a very appropriate and urgent need for medical intervention in your case.

Clearly you have never been near a court or proper office before.

[quote author=tpia@]Deepsight, i see you're ignoring my posts.

Good for you.

I must say, this thread is beneath you, i'm really surprised you could do something like this.

Anyway, no be nl?


Its not today nlers will display this kind of behaviour, very unfortunate.[/quote]Sharrap.

Its obvious that good ethics and professional behavior in public places is beneath YOU.

Olodo.

Fhemmmy: You are a "Lawyer" . . . Lol . .. I know people like you, always wanna find a way to make a situation seems like a joke once they have lose all faces . .keep up bro

Please lets be serious.

Your only argument was "Privacy"

And I have shown you that a public offer on public duty in a public place CANNOT ask for that.

Period.

So if you have a response to that, lets see it; FEMI.

Fhemmmy: I never gave up on what i am so sure of, i only gave up when i realize that i am talking to someone that refused to wanna learn . . For example, i have said few times, dont call me Femi, but Fhemmmy . . . If you cant listen to something so simple how can i have a discussion with YOU.

FEMI, WHAT MORE DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ON PRIVACY?

whitecat007: Has anyone taken another look? This may be a workplace vendetta. No one can keep eating like this when a visitor walks in.


The poster probably timed the guy during his lunch to get him fired so that he himself or someone he knows can take the job from him.

Take his Job? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Now that is actually hilarious.

[quote author=touch_me_hard]And you are not aware that this picture could cost him his job abi?[/quote]In any decent society, it should.

Richvkunt: Ivory Coast have the better players and are the tournament favourites.they are tactically disciplined and have a better coach. In Yaya Toure and Drogba they have two massive and experienced players.
On the other hand Nigeria are the underdog with a tactically unaware man as our coach. Our best player Mikel has consistently refused to rise to his potential.
In short the Nigerian team has no defined pattern of play and as such the odds are not in our favour at all.
However I have a sneaky feeling Nigeria will win this game and the game will be closer than people think. It might just be the upset of the century!

That a day has come, in which Nigeria defeating CIV would be referred to as an upset; is simply tragic.

ifyalways: I dislike people like the OP with a passion. What the Kwasia is this, huh?

Did you go into his office during his lunch time?

Do they have a canteen or a rest room where he could have done his business?

Did you correct him or you just rushed to take a picture?
What really is the purpose of the thread?

Besides you working at the fed high court for several years what's new?! Oh, the sight of fish and amala disgusts him.

Kwasiabilities! ! !

Sharrap.

Fhemmmy: Answer the question that you have been asked . . . What was your intention to post this and start this thread? . . Also, Once again, my name is Femmmy and not Femi, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee take note of that as a lawyer . . . Lol

Femi; I see you have conceded the point on privacy.

As regards your question, my intention is to sensitize Nigerians on simple professionalism and customer service, nothing more, nothing less. I dont know that fellow and I have no reason to wish him ill.

Fhemmmy: Lol . . The man is surely not a seasoned lawyer from his post, actions and communication . . . instead, they will put on gloves and insult...Lol, he see nothing wrong in what he has done, so let us just leave him to enjoy the thread . . .Lol

Femi; I am not interested in brick-batting. Just tell me where and how it ever became a tort to publish the actions of a public servant while on duty in a public place.

Thank you.

Do we expect a president who ran away from a Presidential debate to permit his lackeys to honour a debate on finances?

Fhemmmy: Obama is aware that there are people around that will be taking his pix at all times, and that explains why he only do his silly stuff behind close doors and not in public . . . You took the pix of the man with hidden camera, Sir and you come and post it online.
Every moves of Obama is recorded and he is aware of that, that explains even why some celebrity disguise cos they are aware of their pix all over the place, but that is not the case here, sir.

Well i will only suggest then that you advice the man to take me to court.

He is a public officer in a public place.

ALL public officers in public places have their pictures taken AND PUBLISHED.

You are pretty much saying that I would be wrong to take a picture of a police officer in an inappropriate act in the line of duty and publish same.

That is wrong.

Femi; Just answer me this -


In fact; let me add to that. How many permissions are taken from the White House regarding photos of President Barack Obama; while in public; and on public duty?

Fhemmmy: Here is Quebec in Canada:
Aubry v. Éditions Vice-Versa inc., [1998] 1 S.C.R. 591, was a decision by the Supreme Court of Canada in which the claimant, Pascale Claude Aubry, brought an action against Éditions Vice-Versa for publishing a photo taken of her in public. She claimed the photographing was a violation of her right to privacy under the Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms. The Court held that under Quebec law a photographer can take photographs in public places but may not publish the picture unless permission has been obtained from the subject.

Public officer while on public duty? ? ? ? ?

Simple.

In fact; let me add to that. How many permissions are taken from the White House regarding photos of President Barack Obama; while in public; and on public duty?

Fhemmmy: Go and talk to other lawyers and they will tell you that you cant take people's pix and use at court of law and win with it, i dont know in Nigeria oh, but in civilized countries as you have referred to it, you will be singing a different story.

Ok. Lets make it simple. No arguments. Just post me the law that says it is illegal or a tort (that means a civil wrong) to publish an image of a public officer involved in an inappropriate act in a public office. Lets keep it that simple. Thanks.

Fhemmmy: What the man has done is not excusable and yes, totally not acceptable, but taking his pix without his consent and posting it online without his face being blurred for some privacy is NOT right either, call a spade a spade!

Femi; its a PUBLIC PLACE.

You get that, dont you?

Might I ask you, how are all the reports on CNN etc done - those ones which are from ireport; Youtube, etc? Are they done with permission?

Come on! REASON!

No one will come into your bedroom to take a pic and post it, BUT SURELY, WE WILL TAKE A PIC AND POST IT WHEN ITS A PUBLIC OFFICER ON PUBLIC DUTY IN A PUBLIC OFFICE!!!!!!!!

ehie: it could be anything..
the picture could have been taken after work hours
the picture could have been taken to discredit the court

the picture could have been a setup and the op would have told the man to pose like that...
we do not know as the "culprit" is not here to defend himself,but the op has posted and declared this man guilty before the whole world,every one is innocent until proven guilty

Indeed, I would have some special interest in "discrediting" courts that I have worked in all my early working years?

Geeeeez!

Fhemmmy: And you said you are a lawyer? Very interesting! . . . Yet you wanna talk about why Nigeria is uncivilized . . . Lol.
I dont get into personal insults . . .

Aite sorry. I was not referrin to you. The comments here are just ridiculous.

Peeps actually think this is ok!

Amazing.

Fhemmmy: And in the civilized country where you are residing, would you take a pix of someone regardless of where and post online within their consent?

If done in public; and in a public office, YES.

OLODO.

Well! ! ! ! !

Interesting comments; and most - simply show that this country is utterly uncivilized.

I will respond to ONE consistent point only: privacy -

In response to that; I say that the (un)gentleman, was doing this in a public office.

Thanks. Y'all deserve the leadership you get.

Mofos.

Nigeria's belated reaction in this matter is disgraceful. France has no business in our sandbox (West Africa).

Logicboy03: Dear muslims,
Salaam,

We are all Nigerians, whether muslim or christian or pagan. We are all one irrespective of tribe or religion. However, I write this letter with anger and disappointment. I am disappointed and angry at the ease at which extremists have found a stronghold within the religion of islam and have used it to cause terror and mayhem to people in the north. This issue of islamic extremism is really dividing Nigeria into different parts faster than tribalism or the greed for oil have ever done to Nigeria. Concurrently, I am going to use the christian response to El Rufai's tweet concerning Jesus to highlight a possible solution to this case of religious extremism. I believe that muslims can learn from our christian brethren's reactions to the tweet.

First of all, we have to establish three facts. The first fact is that I am not a christian or a believer in God, and so, I am not trying to preach a religion or promote christianity in this letter. The second fact is that christianity and many other religions are not totally innocent when it comes to extremism as well. The third fact, which is the most important, is that islamic extremism does not top at Boko Haram; there are islamic youths and clerics who engage in dangerous activities that are destructive to the fabric of our society.

Now, that we have established these facts, we can now dive into the issue at hand; what muslims can learn from the christian handling of the El Rufai tweet. El Rufai made an expensive joke on twitter that had the punchline of Jesus sleeping with Mary Madgalene even though the point of the joke was to ridicule the staunch defenders of the current Nigerian president. There was a christian backlash on twitter and on the internet because of the perceived blasphemy emanating from the tweet. I want to clearly stress it out that there were no violent riots on the streets of Lagos or Port Harcourt in reaction the perceived blasphemy towards the revered figure of Jesus Christ. This is in direct contrast to reactions to anti-islamic messages where riots claimed the lives of innocent people(for example; the riots against the 2002 Miss World beauty pageant in Nigeri and against the Danish cartoons in 2006 that claimed the livesof innocent Nigerians). I will advance the argument that Muslims can learn from this difference in reaction which stems from a reformed view in christianity and other modern religions towards a more humanistic approach in faith.


Muslims should have meetings with their youths and clerics to preach a more peaceful and humanistic version of islam. It should be reiterated 5 times a day from clerics and imams that killing for a religion is wrong and that one should reply words with words not violence. You wouldn't find a christian preacher or pastor in Nigeria condoning the killing of a blasphemer or an unbeliever or calling for violence. Infact, Christian leaders have reacted and called for an apology from El Rufai without threats or violence. The reason for this different approach from Nigerian christian goes beyond the roots of christianity in Nigeria. The reason is a simple reformation in religion towards a more enlightened and less barbaric way of spreading and experiencing faith.

Before christianity was properly spread in Nigeria by the British in the 19th century, there were numerous wars which almost destroyed Europe in the preceding centuries and christianity almost "out-crusaded" itself. There was also a growing age of enlightenment from the 17th century. The experience of the wars and enlightenment forced christianity to take religion a little less fantaically as more humanistic ideals were followed. Principles of personal liberty and fredom of expression were gaining popularity in the 18th century. With time, some progressive ideals became associated with christianity in the 19th century.

The point of the historical trip back to some centuries ago is to advice muslims to understand that faith can only succeed if it becomes progressive. I am not saying that the fundamentals of islam should be changed. I am saying that Nigerian muslims should practice their religion in a more peaceful way with the times . I have mentioned that more work has to be done with youths and cleric to keep promoting non-violent approaches to those who insult islam- either simple worded replies/complaints to the blasphemer/heretic or mediation between both parties. The simple way to do this is for the most popular imams or clerics to be given directives by the leaders in the society or government to preach tolerance to non-muslims and different sects of muslims 5 times a day.

There are other solutions which I want to offer;
-Making and sharing pamphlets to the youth on how to relate to non-muslims peacefully and how to peacefully react to anti-islamic issues.
-Creating activities and jobs at mosques for the youth so that idle ones wont have a chance to be recruited by terrorist/extremist groups
-Spreading the message that non-muslims in the north are still you Nigerian brethren and should be treated with respect.
-Creating television/radio programs to address the issues above in order to reach millions.


I hope my words have given some muslims a reason to think about how their religion is practiced in Nigeria. I choose to believe that there are good muslims who want a change. However, work has to be done to make that change happen. I will end this letter with a quote from Muhammad

"A perfect Muslim is one from whose tongue and hands mankind is safe."


Cheers,
Logicboy

Well done Logicboy! Beautiful and BRILLIANT!!!!!

You know, it is still amazing, although we all know it - how Nigerians simply lack any sense of customer service whatsoever. It can be bad even in the private sector, but is always massively worse in the public sector. The public service and civil service are just. . . . wow.

Here's a tiny example. About 2 weeks ago I went over to the High Court of Lagos State at Tafawa Balewa Square; Lagos Island. Having practiced as a lawyer there several years ago, i already knew the court had many improvements (there is also a new Multi-Door wing at the rear); and there had been many other modern improvements. When I left practice about seven years ago, I was already very pleased with the many gradual improvements at the court. Not just structurally but also in terms of process and practice and the rules of court.

There has been a general effort to improve the processes of the court. For example the new 2012 Rules of Court have introduced a compulsory Alternative Dispute Resolution Mechanism to see if cases can be resolved amicably before being assigned to a Judge.

You can therefore imagine my shock when I entered the office of the Chief Registrar; and came upon the sight of one of his officers eating a meal of amala and fresh fish (stinking to high heavens) right there in the court office - whilst attending to lawyers and litigants.

This is something that Nigerian civil Servants do A LOT and with impunity and its simply totally unprofessional and disgusting. I was totally ashamed.

I decided to do some "sleuth" journalism and so I managed to sneak a shot of him with my phone in the dastardly act.

Here is the s.illy fellow -

lynpetra: My dear husband wey go marry me go enjoy.You can imagine coming home from work to see his sexy wife on a g.string,and sexy lingerie with red cotted lips saying her extravagant arse and saying softly and amorously"take Ur trousers,Ur gentleman needs to be tot not to be gentle dus night"

Just add to that some devastating high heels and the game is up!

Ngwakwe: Liking an assertion or a narrative doesn't make it a superior argument depending on the level of your authority in a particular subject.

Well. . . . .good point. Over to Seun.

lynpetra: aAnd practice it in the open eyes if the civil law

What does this mean please. I dont understand you.

berem: i don't see anything wrong if i behave like a w.hore to my husband.i mean if i dont do it definitely he will look elsewhere for another w.hore to satisfy his s.e.xual urge. this is why p.orn movies should be watched by married couples to boost their sexx drive.

CORRECT!

I REPEAT:

There is nothing wrong with my wife behaving like a p.orn star so long as its only with me.

A cook in the kitchen, an intelligent and delightful hostess with my guests (and hers); a companion and helper through life, and a w.hore in my bed. That is the definition of a perfect wife.

lynpetra:




You are not entirely correct Sir.My mom has hairs all over her body and I took after her,I have hairs more than where it us suppose to stay for a woman yet am a fuckiinnng manizer!

I didnt say it apples to all. It's just a greater likelihood.

O, by the way, i guessed as much.

cogitoErgo: that is what im talking about. some of us watch blue films at early age and our picture of se.x is conditiond by those thngs we saw, even when we finally got married we just want our wifes to sexually behave like those women in the films, we have been psychologically ruined! these homosexuals have psychological problems.

There is nothing wrong with my wife behaving like a p.orn star so long as its only with me.

A cook in the kitchen, an intelligent and delightful hostess with my guests (and hers); a companion and helper through life, and a w.hore in my bed. That is the definition of a perfect wife.