₦airaland Forum

Alsayer:
So you admit the Bible is fake and yet you still think God exists? If the very thing that says God is real is fake itself, how can God's existence be proven then?

This statement is making it clearer that the inaccurate Bible is what is deceiving atheists. Like I said before, any person or group of persons can write anything and claim it came from God. Therefore the Bible is not an object to be used to prove whether God exists or not. This implies that even if the Bible is fake it does not mean that God himself is fake. Studying things in existence is the ideal way to prove whether God exists or not and not the Bible

Also, evolution is not God nor is it the action of God. There's no such thing as male and female species because both genders of a species would be the same species and not different species from one another. On that note, Organisms evolved to have different genders to encourage genetic diversity and prevent gene stagnation. Regardless, some creatures are hermaphroditic (snails for example) and can produce offspring independently while some species have only one sex like the all female lizard species.

The part in bold shows you are personifying evolution as a living and intelligent entity for it to take a decision to encourage diversity and prevent gene stagnation. This thing cannot just happen by chance. Only an intelligent and conscious entity can make such a thing happen that way. You haven't explained how thousands of different advanced animals exist in pairs of male and female and STILL accurately look alike. Evolution by chance can NEVER do this. That's impossible. It's like saying a blind man can walk from Lagos to Abuja without hitting or touching any obstacle. Only something having intelligence can make creation happen this way.

If Adam and Eve existed like the Bible says, humanity would have gone extinct because a single pair of humans will not produce enough genetic diversity and their successive generations will die due to inbreeding.

I told you to leave the Bible alone. We have concluded the Bible is fake. We are now trying to prove God's existence only by looking at creation.

yemi15:
You probably have not heard stories about how change agents have been frustrated in this country, that is why you are saying this! Keep on with your eldorado thinking where the minority can change things smh

Do you think change agents were not frustrated in the countries you run to? If the change agents in Europe and America all ran away do you think they would have gotten to this level?

Raalsalghul:
Will do. Trust me.

Any Nigerian running away from Nigeria is also guilty as the corrupt politicians you castigate and blame for destroying the country. Change in a country can not come without a fight.

Present your case against it.

Raalsalghul:
Can you shut da fvck up?

Can you contest what I said and present your case maturely?

sirhamilton:
*If you could "RUN AWAY" as you choose to put it, you'd never type this.
* Kindly elaborate more of on what you mean by the term "EDUCATED MINDSET"

When I say EDUCATED MINDSET I don't mean going to school and acquiring degrees. I mean having a modern understanding of life and how we should live together to create advanced societies. For instance, in Nigeria our mindset have been configured to accept poverty, bad roads, erratic power supply and massive corruption as normal way of life. In societies having a modern mindset the citizens wouldn't tolerate all that for one second. There will be an eruption.

milehigh06:
.. FEW Nigerians are some of the most ardent readers on planet earth hence why you have FEW Nigerians in high intellectual positions...The Average nigerian mind is corrupt due to AN UNENLIGHTENED MINDSET. if given the chance FEW Nigerians will make things happen and that is why they are doing good in multiple countries..the ones involved in crimes are the lazy ones who are stuck on the easy ways of getting money.

Take note of the corrections I made in your comment above.

codemaniacs:
moving out of Nigeria exposes the nigerian to how things work in other countries and gives them access to jobs that will pay them a higher currency.

one of the many ways to succeed is by having constant cashflow, Nigerians can succeed in Nigeria.

it will continue as long as foreigners are allowed to dominate businesses that Nigerians are meant to dominate.

they can't bar Nigerians due to diplomacy and Nigeria's position in Africa. the worst they can do is to dis-respect Nigerians.

we can help ourselves but the people that should help are helping foreigners. the other people that can help are not helping.

If you think the way out is by running away then Nigeria will never get developed. Selfishness is part of what is killing us in Nigeria. Whenever the average Nigerian gets an education he begins to feel too big to live in Nigeria. He starts to have this feeling of self-righteousness believing he is a good person while the rest of Nigerians are bad that he can't live with them. Then the next thing on his mind is running away from Nigeria.

The ROOT problem in Nigeria is lack of education. Majority of the citizens have an uneducated mindset. If 70% of Nigerians have an educated mindset many of these problems will go away and we will always elect and have the best rulers governing us. These Nigerians who run away from Nigeria are also part of the problem because if they had stayed back it would help sustain an increase in the number of educated and enlightened citizens which is the foundation of development. As folks like you get an education and keep running away how much educated workforce will be left in Nigeria to lead the nation to advancement? Those countries you are running to fixed their own countries so why can't we fix ours? If every Nigerian has a chance to emigrate to a foreign country don't you think they will also destroy the country with the same uneducated mindset they have?

codemaniacs:
if you earn ₦200,000 per month and you decide to go into poultry business and a foreigner or a 'diaspora Nigerian' who earns $50,000 monthly who is going to be more successful in the poultry biz between you and the foreigner or 'diaspora Nigerian'...

Nigerians with degrees and Nigerians who do their masters or uni in this countries are doing well for themselves....

About the "shackles"... most foreigners have had their great grand parents wealth passed down to them, so they have access to money most Nigerians who have lived their entire lives in Nigeria don't have...

its about been able to compete economically... most Africans are not in a position to compete economically and their politicians are not helping them out...

So you are suggesting the only way to succeed is by moving out of Nigeria? Will this continue like this forever? What if these countries bar Nigerians from coming in does it mean we can't help ourselves? We have what it takes to help ourselves but we are just not making any serious effort to solve our problems.

codemaniacs:
you are ignorant of the ECONOMIC situation most Africans were put in due to indirect rule of the europeans...

Another white man blaming. What's stopping us from breaking the shackles?

this "Any foreigner" may have relatives who send them at least $3000 monthly.... in the OP's case, most chinese have the financial backing of their government...

You are only agreeing with what I earlier said. No foreigner from countries better than Nigeria come into Nigeria without having something serious doing. Nigerians just run to foreign nations to wander the streets looking for what to eat. That's the difference

Raalsalghul:
Anybody can make in Nigeria. Reason while people move out is because of the poor quality of life. No light, corrupt leaders, bribery, police harassment, yahoo boys etc. Should I continue?

Even the bad poeple who are causing the problems in Nigeria also want to run away. Nigerians are clowns

justwise:
The same reason those Chinese and Koreans are not staying in their individual countries to make it but decided to move to Nigeria.

Did you ask them why they are not making it in their own country? Is China not far better than Nigeria?

Any foreigner in Nigeria already has something sufficient and flourishing keeping him or her in Nigeria. But Nigerians just troop into foreign countries without having any plan and only just hoping to make it there from scratch. No foreigner from countries better than Nigeria come into Nigeria to struggle from scratch.

Blacks want to abandon their homeland and run to somewhere else already developed. They have refused to develop their own region but want to be with treated with respect in foreign lands.

Alsayer:
I can't believe anyone can type that much and not realize how ridiculous they sound. You mentioned how Christians have failed to explain everything in the Bible and you even admitted that it contains errors in it. Do you think an infallible God would present a holy book riddled with contradictions to guide a population?

Also, things in the universe do happen by chance sometimes. However, all living creatures around you are a manifestation of millions of years of evolution through trial and error. Science has already proven the remnants of evolution still inside the human genome, and yes, our kind evolved from homo habilis apes. I'll link a video below for you to see.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GfKZlTRNjA

I earlier told you to leave the Bible alone. I feel the bible is what is deceiving you atheists. You guys feel because the Bible contains inconsistencies it becomes a big pointer to suggest God is fake. The Bible may actually be fake. Anybody can easily write rubbish and claim it's from God. So does the Bible being fake actually become proof that a God doesn't exist?

You think evolution is behind creation? If Evolution created everything then evolution is certainly God himself cos evolution has done many intelligent things that a non-living can't do. Evolution as something of chance has failed to explain many things. If you think creation by chance is the answer then kindly explain how chance created the male and female species of many different animals. I await your explanation.

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Nwodosis:
Women are really complex beings, they will play hard to get and also play hard quit! If not for the phrase "you can't use me and dump me", she would've been alive today when it was obvious that the love/trust he had for her is gone,

Are you mad? Instead of condemning the wicked man who did this you are spinning it around to blame and bash women.

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Alsayer:
Has it ever occurred to you that the reason why God's origins and some of his actions are hard to understand was because the Bibles were authored by men in the middle ages who had little scientific knowledge and didn't know how the world really worked?

Answer me this famous riddle: Can an all powerful and all capable God create a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?

If he could not create a rock he can't lift, he cannot be an all capable God. If he could however, that would no longer make him all powerful.

Have fun with this dilemma.

Let's leave the Bible alone. The Bible is what is causing all the confusion. Atheists feel because there are errors and unproven claims in the Bible it becomes the ultimate proof that there is no creator. When christians fail to explain these inconsistencies in the Bible the atheists feel like they have proven no God exists. If you want to know whether a God exists or not don't look at what the Bible says because the Bible may actually be fiction. Just grab a biology textbook and read. Then ask yourself if the things you read in the biology textbook are things that are collectively all happening by chance.

We need to accept we don't have the capacity to understand everything. Our intelligence and perception has a limit. God is just beyond our understanding. We haven't actually explained a lot happening on earth where we are living and we are trying to explain a God. That's ridiculous. We can't explain God because God is not even subject to the laws of the universe. The human mind can only explain things using the laws of the universe. The riddle you provided follows the laws of universe so it doesn't apply to God.

rkennyking:
hypocrisy ,you lot want us to believe that it's not possible that the world came in to existence by chance but still want us to believe that your God, who you claim crated us all can't be explained. I say just as you can not comprehend the creation of God, But want us to believe that is how you cant explain the creation of this world by chance. So I prefer that we say ,the origin of everything is not known yet . That will be better than all forms of unconfirmed premises that till confirmed are nothing but lies

Do you accept there is a limit to our understanding and intelligence? I guess the answer is YES. Our intelligence is enough to discern that the universe did not spring up by chance because of the numerous orderliness and perfect designs all around. But the issue of God's origin and every other thing about him is just beyond what the human mind can grasp.

When you see a strange phone on your desk you will know a human dropped it there but you don't know the person's identity. We know God's existence through his handwork seen all around. But we don't know his identity and where he came from.

kmcutez:
Who created the creator?

You are still asking the same question I have already answered. Do you believe there is a limit to what humans can know and understand?

kmcutez:
How did God come to exist? It says we are created in his image. Who is responsible for the complex intricacies of God?

The problem with humans like you is that you think that thing you house in your skull called a brain can explain and understand everything. That is just the problem. The day you accept your brain has a limitation in power and understanding is the day you will stop asking that question. To human understanding, everything in existence must have a beginning. But this law may not be the same outside the universe we exist. Things are not the way the are just because we see it that way.

Grupo:
Yes o, Einstein is a very foolish man. Imagine, how could he not believe that snakes were talking in the past, donkeys were speaking, and there was a flood that destroyed the whole world? Coincidentally, all these happened in a small enclave in the middle east. Einstein the foolish man.

I know the problem with you atheists. You guys are using the inconsistencies in the Bible as PROOF there is no God. I actually don't believe in the Bible but I believe there is a God and the evidence is in the intelligent organisation of things in the universe. Let's say the Bible is fake, but does it mean there is no creator? Have you really asked yourself this question?

Sapphire86:
She is actually an upcoming actress; she's done some lovely movies... She dropped some bad ass rap lyrics some days back!! She is NOT in the Chioma category abeg!

But she is still very unknown. Till she makes it big she should always be introduced as Wizkid's ex so people can understand why she is making headline at the front-page.

HarkymTheOracle:
Please what happened to addressing her rightfully as "Mrs Alakija"

obaataaokpaewu:
it was Lalasticlala that added the "wizkid ex" tag on front page.
I wonder how he will feel if his wife is addressed by the ex's name

Sapphire86:
Clearly this lady's crime was dating Wizkid since you guys won't let her be her own person. OP, put some respect on her name; she is Mrs Alakija!

I still haven't gotten over her rap

maklelemakukula:
OP she is a married woman, don't be a bastard please

chivera018:
I thought dis lady is married, why is she still addressed as WizKid's ex.
Bia OP, have some respect.

Who is she apart from the fact that she dated Wizkid? If she has to stand on her own she must make her own achievement. Same goes for Chioma as Davido's girlfriend.

freda506:
At what point does she become her own person and not Wizkid's appendage? Do better, op.

Till she achieves something to her own credit.

NessaBoo:
Mshewww! This is exactly what a feeble minded juvenile would say, as if you can ever measure up to a girl with all the qualities you just listed.

And what makes you think I can't measure up to a lady with those qualities? Your mindset describes that of the average Nigerian girl. Once a Nigerian girl possesses some little positive attributes like beauty or wealth she sees herself as a queen that is above the level of every guy on earth.

Kindly let me enlighten you a bit, because, for one, men don't always know how to be men, "can I get an AMEN" (Pun intended ).

You are not a man. You can't be a woman and be telling men what they should be and shouldn't be. The psychology of man is different from that of a woman. A man behaves the way he does simply because he is a man.

Sorry. But in my years of existence I have never seen a woman approach a man and not seem like one of 3 things:

Aggressive
Pushy
Desperate

I am glad you said "you have never seen". Which means the fact that you haven't seen any doesn't mean bold and confident ladies don't exist. You have never seen any because these types of bold ladies are very rare.

Just want to know, lemme ask you a quick one, if i make the first move, and you're satisfied with it, am i going to lead you around for the rest of the relationship? Will i pick you up for the first date? will i Pull out your chair, or open the doors for you, etc. Forgive the facetiousness, but I seriously doubt it and will soon grow tired of taking the lead and making the decisions. But hell, I've already set the precedent. Gotta be consistent, right? Is that what you really want?

Please I am not asking you to be a leader. We are talking about meeting who you desire to meet. There is no big deal in approaching a man when executed perfectly. Approaching a man is rocket science to you simply because you lack the composure to do that. There is a trick to pull it off and only the bold and smartest ladies can figure it out without losing her respect or seen as desperate and pushy.

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AryEmber:
That number 5 is a no no for me and for your number 9, remember we dey for Ninja oh!

ibkayee:
God forbid

Biglittlelois:
It's only stupid girls that do 3, i can never do 5, 6 applies to fat girls, who work out epp 9 is not compulsory, this is Nigeria duuhh

NessaBoo:
I agree with her, she's totally right.

Heard it all before that it's the 21st century! Gender roles don't exist anymore! Women can play the role of men! Blah blah...Okay, perhaps you're right. But why would you want to? I'm all for women's rights, trust. I have had infinitely more opportunities than my grandmother or even my mother had, due to the courage of women who fought for our civil rights.

However, while our mothers and our grandmothers didn't have the opportunities we have, they did have something going for them. They well understood their role! And no, not in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. I mean, humble, meek, strong, not pushy, passive, yet passionate.

Hence, when a woman sees an attractive man, she should hold back from approaching him. She is the crown jewel. The man should come and seek his prize!

Number 5 is for bold, highly confident and a potentially intelligent woman. You are simply not up to that class of ladies.

Biggty:
IPhone is a better phone compare to Samsung

Only because it's seen as a rich man's luxury. When it comes to features I believe Samsung is superior to iPhones.

Lordofthewest:
Why is tinubu employing all these hateful ipobs sef? Hope it's another evil agenda to put something dangerous in his cloth cos I don't trust these flatnoids one bit we employ and feed them only for them turn around backbite and backstab yorubas their master..bloody potopoto scumbags.

Tribalism is for poor men like you. Rich folks never bother about all that.

udemzyudex:
I'm speaking on the fact that I'm considered as one of the end user here, a potential buyer.

I remember when Nokia tried to bring out their own operating system instead of switching to android or producing some products with andriod, they were screwed.

I'm not saying that they can't do whatever they want but they have a very little chance of succeeding.

And you think they ain't aware of all these before taking a decision?
When Symbian was everywhere nobody believed Android will suddenly grab the market.

udemzyudex:
And you think this China developers will develop all duplicate or exact andriod apps so people can use?

Huawei knows something that you don't know or else they wouldn't be embarking on this journey. You are only speaking based on what you know.