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 Christianity Etc › Re: The Mass - An in-depth analysis and shocking revelation by dokie: 2:35pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
ijawkid: All I need is a link to Jesus or the apostles or even the prophets......please kid, if you won't think i am being a pagan by relating relics to these scriptures and if you are not like frosbels, please read 2 kings 13:20-21. acts 19:12. they are the foundations of the veneration of relics (piece of meat) as you call it. but if your mind is under satanic bondage as frosbels' is, sorry i bothered you, if not, we can discuss further. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mass - An in-depth analysis and shocking revelation by dokie: 2:03pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
frosbel: empty and hopeless threats.frosbel, i have prayed for your conversion and deliverance, and i mean what i am saying. when a mans mind is closed, he is helpless that is why i pray for you rather than engage you on christian discussions. my spirit is pained for you. but someday hopefully, you will be free. i like your zeal and single mindedness, even if you are a direct agent of the devil (which is not impossible) or an indirect one (one who is an agent without knowing it), your zeal, singlemindedness and sturboness is a good quality which can be used to expand the kingdom. unfortunately, it is still under the devils control. you are a worker of Iniquity, and if you do not repent before you die, you are most likely going to receive the treatment of mattew 7:21. keep enjoying your popularity, while you are at it, remember, you are doing the bidding of the devil. for those who may have the time, read up on the black mass and try to think objectively why satanists celebrate the black mass. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mass - An in-depth analysis and shocking revelation by dokie: 1:38pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
Lovethywilbedon: Just look at this one, so you want us to start going ROUND THE CIRCLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU? I have said before that I have found Jesus in the Catholic Church and we Catholics are following Jesus, but your brother frosbel is saying that I should come out of the catholic Church. My problem with him is IF I LEAVE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WHERE DO I GO? (I mean NAME A BETTER CHURCH). Is this question very DIFFICULT to answer?. So far, I have seen that this simple question, WHERE DO I GO? is "A QUESTION WHICH NO PROTESTANT CAN ANSWER". Okay let me come down to you. So your own point is that if I leave the Catholic Church, I should become my own Priest or rather Pastor, since I don't need some one more experinced to help or guide me, also that I should stop going to Church, because church doesnt matter. So this is how you want to lead me to HELL, by telling me to stop going to Church because It doesn't matter. But TRUELY *segeggs* I know you are a BORN AGAIN Christian who goes to church every sunday, but here you are advicing a fellow christian to "STOP GOING TO CHURCH". HONESTLY, you are not different from *Frosbel*, BLASPHAMOUS HYPOCRITES!!my dear how are you sure he is a born again christian? dont be carried away, the Holy Spirit is not a confusionist. anyone who hasvthe Holy Spirit can never, note the word never call catholics pagans. the worst such a person can do is to say catholics are in error. there is none of the so called reformers called the church pagan. so dont be deceived by lofty writings of some people on this thread, indicating scriptural knowledge and claiming born again. anyone who says the catholic church is pagan and idolatrous is under satanic bondage and manipulation. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mass - An in-depth analysis and shocking revelation by dokie: 1:29pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
ijawkid: I like u pass d way u fit imagine to like me o....I don't hate anyone....Hey kid, have you ever read anything on relics and its origins and beginings? if you have let me know the information you have on it. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Mass - An in-depth analysis and shocking revelation by dokie: 1:24pm On Apr 09, 2013 |
frosbel: I am not affiliated to any church , though I fellowship with others, I also have no ministry or group of my own, and there is no intention whatsoever of having one,you are not growing into maturity, you going deeper into the bondage of satan. since you are the sole interpreter of scripture, you have made yourself your own God. if you dont open your eyes and position yourself for deliverance, your obstinacy will land you in hell. you have already started by saying there is no hell, very soon, you will say there is no heaven, and no Jesus, and no God. the moment a man makes himself the sole authority over his own life, he becomes a slave to the devil. history has seen many like yourself, their end is the same. now for other protestants who go ahead enjoying frosbels attack against the catholic church and praising him for his goodworks, you share in his sin, and if he dies in it, his blood will be demanded from you. you have been warned. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 40 Shocking & Terrible Quotes About A Pope! by dokie: 2:53pm On Apr 06, 2013 |
Mart d dart: Lol...I've indeed answered that question. Plus, I never said I was God..so please be "honourable enough" to actually read previous posts before commentingyou have nothing to offer. who made the bible the only foothold of christians? you cant answer; when was it done? no answer. and you still have the courage to continue discussing issues. just park. or what else do you people want from us? leave us alone! enjoy your own form of christianity. catholics dont depend on the bible alone for its practices. the church has existed for over 300 years before the bible came to be and if all copies of the bible disappears today, the church will continue for it is guided by the Holy Spirit through men. what do you want from us catholics? we are in a living, a church guided by the spirit. leave us alone. just park. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of False Teachers Parading Themselves Here On This Forum by dokie: 1:10pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
frosbel: Yes Brother, we should always keep each other in checkand you dont believe in eternal torment? if not for anything else, your false prophet founder has sold that lie to you so that you can continue sinning and lying to yourselves that the worst that will happen is that you will just permanently blank out at the end of your life. What is the name of your "church" frosbels? why are you so afraid to mention it? or you are scared we will do some research on the founder and probably discover amongst many other falsehoods, how many times he has predicted the end of the world and thereby be a confirmed false prophet? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Dokie And Co - Kindly Explain Luke 11:27-28 by dokie: 12:48pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
italo: *LUNATIC IGNORED, STILL*Italo, though i understand how unbelievable the post of these guys can be, you should not call them lunatics, its abusive. remember they are still made in the image and likeness of God, for that sake, abeg bros, respect their "human beigness" so that we dont offend the Lord. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Dokie And Co - Kindly Explain Luke 11:27-28 by dokie: 12:40pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
frosbel: Hmmm, so your honor is for the dead and not for the living, wow !! What a dead religion.What do you know? i no get your time. those who truly want to learn shall learn, those whose minds are closed by the devil need help. the day you post things that need clarification, i will clarify, not for you but for other seekers of genuine knowledge. in the meantime, let me engage my time in doing the will of God. while you r still combing the net looking for the next tool you will use, try readin "Rome Sweet Home" by scott hann. it will show you how genuine anti catholics should behave, and not folks like you doing the devils bidding. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Rome Sweet Home-the Conversion Of Dr Scott Hahn by dokie: 12:18pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
engrtee: Waiting for frosbel to comentfrosbel is probably combing the net looking for the next article he would use to call catholics pagan. when he finds his way here, he'll probably call the man a pagan and the whole story a plot of the jesuits. the guy is trapped. maybe dem pursue am from seminary who knows. any ways, its very difficult for anyone to study church history and the catholic church's teachings with an open mind and prayerfully, and not get converted to the church or atleast realize how wrong he/she has been. my boss at the office is a staunch member of rccg. a prayer document on my table made her start reading more about the church. according to her, she never believed catholics pray that way. i only told her that if she continued at the rate she was going, she will be converted to catholicism eventually. she's said that won't happen. Only time will tell. the beauty of the whole thing is that not one of the stories of conversion i have read had anything to do with a catholic trying to convert a protestant. the protestant person always started the journey himself or herself until their eventual conversion Any protestant that has the courage can give it a shot, but prayerfully and with an open mind. if such a person doesnt get converted, na small e go remain. Not by power nor by might but by the Spirit. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Dokie And Co - Kindly Explain Luke 11:27-28 by dokie: 11:07am On Apr 05, 2013 |
frosbel: As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you. He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it." = Luke 11:27-28I will explain, not because it will make any difference to frosbel, but for others who might have an open mind towards things. You Frosbel are like the leaders of the Jews who couldn’t see anything good in Jesus, as such, even if God the Father Himself were to appear to confirm that Jesus was the Messiah, they would have said it was the devil that appeared. The reason being that they had their minds closed by their father – the devil – as Jesus told them (John 8:44 and 2Cor 4:4). Nevertheless, in addition to the scripture of reference, I would go further to add this scripture “While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother” (Matt. 12: 46-50) Both scriptures have the same significance:” Blessed, Mother, Brother”; all who do the will of God are Blessed, Mother, Brother. It is clear (for those who have their eyes open though) from the second scripture that Christ was not denying that Mary was his mother or that his brothers were not his brothers, since the bible continued to refer to James as the Lord’s brother (Galatians 1:19) and Mary as the Lord’s mother (Acts 1:14). So what’s the whole sense in Christ saying what he said? Simply, If you do the will of God, you are blessed. If you do the will of God, you are Christ’s family. If you do not, you are not blessed, and you are not part of Christ’s family. So Mary is Blessed and is the mother of Jesus; and any one who does the will of God is Blessed and belongs to the family of Jesus, since such a person is part of the body of Christ. Q.E.D. Segeggs said that since he is doing the will of God, it is right that he be honored like Mary, but no one should go making statues, praying etc. Certainly, no one will do that (except maybe for some denominations who appear to worship their pastors) because we don’t do any of that to anybody living in this side of existence no matter how holy the person may be, not even the one we call Holy Father – the Pope. Reason being that such a person is still human and can fall of grace at anytime, and you can’t even tell if he/she is in the state of grace while appearing to be holy. The moment the person transits to the other side, and it is confirmed that such a person is in heaven (through the process of Beatification, which means proclaiming the person Blessed, and Canonization, which means the person is referred to as Saint), we can have a devotion to the person for intercessory purposes, in the spirit of “The Communion of the Saints” I won’t go further than that because the issue of praying, making statues and all the other practices associated with the Marian Devotion and devotion to the saints are outside the scope of this thread and has been discussed extensively on various threads, councils, seminars etc. and whatever is said here won’t make any difference (at least for frosbels, segeggs and their likes). Many have converted from protestant denominations (including leaders) to Catholicism after having considered all these practices, and many have also left the Catholic Church for same reason 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Book Review And Daily Excerpts from 50 Years As A Priest Of Rome. by dokie: 7:54am On Apr 05, 2013 |
frosbel: ^^^^lol. maybe you are a disgruntled ex seminarian or something. bring on whatever you want. the post above was obtained from christianity.com very much a protestant website, but since it makes nonsense of the lousy book and the irresponsible excommunicated priest, you are showcasing on this thread, it has to be a catholic plot to cover lies. get a life frosbel. the catholic church was here before you and your likes, it shall be here long after you are dead, and all your posts will only take you closer to your pay master's abode - hell, except you repent. if i had the time, i'll go through all your posts and expose the ignorance and evidence of an absence of common sense in them all. not for your consumption but for others who may think you have something to offer. lets see how things go. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Sola Sciptura - LOL by dokie: 4:48pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
frosbel: I belong to the Protestant camp by catholic definition, though I have a major issue with the proliferation of denominations with each having certain doctrines that still smell catholic, we should be one body, one Lord and one Spirit.what is the name of your parish, and what society did you belong to while you were a catholic. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questions For Christians: Is the Catholic Church The First Church? by dokie: 5:59pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Lovethywilbedon: I don't know why you like diverting attentionn and thereby avoiding answering very simple questions. The three things you noted above, how does it answer the simple question he asked? Dokie asked a simple which you qouted, PLEASE ANSWER THE SIMPLE QUESTION.don't bother yourself with frosbel, he has nothing to offer. he presents irrelevant scriptures to butress irrelivant points. he needs a lot of prayers. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questions For Christians: Is the Catholic Church The First Church? by dokie: 3:30pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
deSika: i asked this quetion to clarify some points i just couldnt reconcileThere ought not to have been an issue with which is the first church or not. this is only arising as a result of the protestant reformation which occured in the 15th century and has led to the multiplication of churches, each claiming to be superior to the other, and each having their own organizational structure. prior to that there was only one church which means body of Christ. the word catholic means universal. as such The phrase 'Catholic Church' means the universal body of christ. paul and other early disciples set up churches in different parts of the world. what you saw in the first and second chapter of revelation were churches that were set up in different parts of the world by these early missionaries. there existed other churches in different parts not mentioned in revelations like the church in corinth, rome, galatia, thessalonica, philipi etc. one thing about all these churches is that they got directives from a central seat more or less like a head quarters where the overall leaders were based i.e. jerusalem. this was where peter, the head of the church at that time was seated. as such, when there were difficult issues to be resolved, it was refered to Jerusalem so that the leaders will come up with a directive on that (acts 15: 1-35) and it becomes binding for all churches spread in different parts of the world. this is the structure that was and has continued all through the existence of the church. missionaries set up churches in different parts of the world, but the doctrines and rules of governance emanates from a headquarters where the successor to peter sits. presently, the successor to peter, that is the pope, sits in Rome. why the head quarters of the church moved to rome i believe is beyond our scope on this thread. now before the protestant reformation in the 15th century, there had been a major schism called the east-west schism in the year 1054. this divided the church into 2, the eastern church with the head in constantinople, and called the eastern orthodox church, and the western church with the head in rome, thus called the roman catholic church. before the schism, the recognized "capital" of the church was rome. as such rome has maintained that the head of the church in rome is the head of all the churches spread throughout the world,loyal to the western church. so that i dont loose track, the reason why the rcc claims to be the first or mother church is that all other dissenting church organizations came out from its structure. luther, the leader of the reformation, was a catholic priest, once loyal to rome until he protested, was excommunicated, and then went ahead th set up the lutheran church. henry the 8 was the catholic king of england, who resisted the rsformation, but later took control of the church structure in england for some personal reasons to him, and this gave birth to the anglican church as we know it today. john calvins story is not any different. the split continues till today, no longer from the catholic church but among protestant churches. with this in view, would it be wrong to say the rcc is the first organized body of christ? 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Prays For Peace In Nigeria by dokie: 1:49pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
frosbel: There is absolutely nothing Holy about the Pope .how did you get to.this point of evil. one who doesnt see anything good in another human being has no good in himself. give your life to Christ frosbel else you will perish. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Book Review And Daily Excerpts from 50 Years As A Priest Of Rome. by dokie: 1:22pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
[quote author=frosbel][/quote]frosbel, still doing the devil's job? more greese, but a day of reckoning shall come except you repent. Give your life to Christ before it is too late. for those who want to know, the article below is on the writer of frosbel's new found instrument to run the church down: www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1801-1900/charles-chiniquy-vs-the-catholic-church-11630658.html Charles Chiniquy vs. the Catholic Church Church History Timeline Tweet 0 Tweet 0 / Church / Church History / Timeline / 1801-1900 / Charles Chiniquy vs. the Catholic Church Dan Graves, MSL Withdraw your suit against Chiniquy; we are lost; he knows all." That was how a lawsuit against him for slander in Illinois ended, according to a book written by Charles Chiniquy after he was excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Abe Lincoln had represented him, and Charles made what seem to most to be grandiose claims about their friendship (although there is a letter of uncertain worth from Lincoln's son confirming a close relationship). According to his autobiography, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, Lincoln shared religious confidences with Chiniquy that even the future president's intimate friends never heard. Charles also claimed that he warned the future president that the Jesuits would revenge themselves on him. Untold numbers of Americans believed Charles' allegations that Lincoln's assassination was a Catholic plot--all because Lincoln had defended Chiniquy. Few people remember the name of Charles Chiniquy today. However, at a time when Catholic immigration was altering the balance of political power in the United States, his writings helped fuel a furious tide of anti-Catholic resentment. Protestants had many legitimate concerns and Chiniquy played on them. Born in French Canada, Charles lost his father at a young age. An uncle took him in. The boy studied to become a priest, but his behavior was so bad (say Catholic sources) that his uncle renounced him. There was a sexual scandal. Catholic leaders moved Charles around in attempts to give him fresh chances. He became a powerful and effective temperance speaker. However, he continued to get into private trouble. Instead of being ousted from the priesthood as he should have been, he was permitted to transfer to Illinois. Bishop Bourget wrote him a cautionary letter: "(1) take strict precautions in your relations with persons of the opposite sex; (2) avoid carefully all that might savor of ostentation, and the desire to attract attention; simplicity is so beautiful and lovable a virtue; (3) pay to the priests of the country the honor due to their ministry; the glory of God is the best recompense of an apostolic man." In Illinois, Charles defended the Catholic church in public debate. However, he did not heed the bishop's advice. He slandered opponents and defied his bishop. When brought to trial for slander--the case in which Lincoln took a part in his defense--a woman who was to have testified about Charles' unwelcome sexual advances backed out at the last moment. The case was withdrawn. Charles painted it as a huge victory for himself. After the Catholic church expelled him, Charles became a Presbyterian. (His relations with Chicago Presbyterians were not trouble-free, but six years before his death, they made him an honorary Doctor of Divinity.) As an evangelist, he agitated against the Church of Rome. Notables such as Dwight L. Moody corresponded with him and used him for background information on the Roman Church. Chiniquy's autobiography presented his own behavior in a heroic light and the behavior of all priests and bishops in disgraceful terms. The public lapped it up. His autobiography reads like a work of self-promotion. Many of its allegations are doubtful to say the least. As for Lincoln's assassination, the evidence simply is not there. When Charles died in Montreal on January 16, 1899, he left behind him a legacy of untruth in the name of faith that lives on, for his claims are still trotted out as ammunition against the Roman Church. His genuine concerns were lost in the rhetoric of his overstatements. Resources Chiniquy, Charles P. Fifty Years in the Church of Rome. London: R. Banks & son, 1911. Communication from Richard Lougheed, who has studied Chiniquy in detail. Lougheed says that it appears Chiniquy's conversion was real and that his polemics were a reaction to continual attacks and slanders from the Roman Church, including numerous threats on his life and many dangerous riot situations that he escaped. Duff, John J. A. Lincoln, Prairie-Lawyer. New York: Bramhall House, 1960; pp 329, 330. Eisenschmiml, Otto. In the Shadow of Lincoln's Death. New York: Wilfred Funk, Inc., 1940; pp.25, 26. Lougheed, K. Richard. "Chiniquy, Charles (Pascal Télesphore)" in The Blackwell Dictionary of Evangelical Biography : 1730-1860; edited by Donald M. Lewis. Oxford ; Cambridge, Mass. : Blackwell Publishers, 1995. Seville, George Hugh. "Charles Chiniquy." [Series drawn largely from Chiniquy's autobiography]. The Sunday School Times, October, 1953. "Who Was Charles Chiniquy: Facts Versus Falsehood." (ht)geocities.com/chiniquy/) [has a wide range of material from a Catholic point of view] Wolf, William J. Lincoln's Religion. Philadelphia: Pilgrim Press, 1970 edition; p 26. Various other internet sites. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is't D Penticostalz That Wil Pass Judgement No D Last Day Or God by dokie: 12:55pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
starluckwhiz: Let me knw coz have seen d pentecostal as an impertinent to this universe they love critizing other non-pentecostal churches like d catholic church et.c what is there problem dose it mean dt every pentecostal person wil go to heaven?no....ok the bible sayz love ur neigbour as u love urself.." then tel me is there any love among we christian?no a person dt is going to redeem hates d person that is attending catholic y!is dt d way of christ?i ned answerzthe job of many uninformed non catholics is to criticize the catholic church. they have nothing else to offer. dont bother yourself about it. on the last day, we shall see what will happen. in the meantime occupy yourself with doing the work of God: living a life free of sin and encouraging others to do same for christ's sake for that is the fundamental of christianity. remain blessed. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Satanism or Christianity by dokie: 2:21pm On Apr 01, 2013 |
frosbel: Believers who existed before the Bible used scripts and scrolls that contained the original letters, gospels, prophets etc.you see, beyond highlighting issues that i hope someday would bring about a change in yourlife someday, i would want some who think you have something to offer and may be taking you seriously, to see how devoid of pure knowledge you are (not that you are devoid per se, but just that that aspect of your ability to think for yourself is bound by satan through the sect you belong to) hoping that they dont fall into the trap you are in. you see the bible says by their fruits you shall know them, and that a bad tree cannot bear good fruits, if you believe the bible, how can pagans, satanists, idol worshippers, bear so good a fruit ,being so docile to the Holy Spirit that they bring forth the bible. what do you even know about the Holy Spirit inspiring men to do the will of God? Well, i need not tell any right thinking person that they are safer with such people who though they "hate" God, because they are pagans, God still used them to bring good things like the bible into the world and would continue to do so since God is still God and never changes, and the succesors of these men still remain "Pagans" and have not changed, and will not changed. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Satanism or Christianity by dokie: 1:28pm On Apr 01, 2013 |
frosbel: The bible is simply a collection of books written over thousands of years by genuine , holy spirit filled men of GOD.the bible is a collection of books selected from many other books and the collection was done by pagan as you claim by implication, and you even agree they were God's enemies but God uses his enemies. how did you come to the conclusion that God used them? you see if a non christian reads your many posts on the satanic nature of catholicism and comes here and sees you agreeing that the same people that God used to produce the document you are using as your source of christian knowledge are pagans, they would either percieve you as devoid of common sense, stupid, or just an intentional detractor. for me, you are neither of the 3 things i mentioned above, you are simply under an satanic ideological bondage. you were just a naive catholic who was preyed upon by wolves in sheep clothing doing the devils bidding. frosbel, be humble enough to ask God to show you the light and save yourself from impending judgement. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Satanism or Christianity by dokie: 12:46pm On Apr 01, 2013 |
frosbel: I don't follow MEN and I do not belong to a SECTthe bible is a product of "pagan" roman catholic church, and you have the courage to follow it. you dont believe in visions or revelations, how do you trust what saint augustine of hippo, saint jerome and other "pagan" church fathers of the 4th century that believed in the trinity, ever virging state of mary, purgatory, prayer of saints, mary mother of God etc, put together? how can something good com from pagans ? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Satanism or Christianity by dokie: 12:32pm On Apr 01, 2013 |
frosbel: Hi Friend, I called it Pagan prayer because you included Mary and the dead saints.you saw me add mary and the saints in the prayer? check again. the combination of zeal and hatred in you has blinded you a lot. i can only hope you get better. i feel for you because you used to be catholic, though you are glad for now that you left, someday you will regret it, and even more, that you entered into satans deciet by joining the group that you did. i sincerely hope that regret comes while you are still on this side of existence, if not too bad. i read up a few things on a site you gather a lot of your info from, david stewart's site jesus is savior.com on why he's parted ways with jack chicks you might want to read it up here, jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Lordship%20Salvation/bad_tracts.htm. two of the most prominent critics of the catholic church, one calling the other a candidate of hell already. Maybe you believe david who knows. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Satanism or Christianity by dokie: 1:17am On Apr 01, 2013 |
frosbel: [size=13pt]Pictures speak louder than words, tell me the below does not reek of paganism and idolatry[/size]frosbel, a man who engages a mad man in a discussion is pathetic. luther and calvin were the front runners during the reformation. they both believed in the sola scriptura theology yet they couldnt agree between themselves on many christian issues because they interpreted scripture differently. all christian denominations other than the catholic church including your sect, others like yours and the disillusioned david stewalt of Jesus is savior.com claim to be sola scriptura based yet almost all interpret the bible differently. now in a situation like this, the spirit behind the commands or law of God is what true christians try to discern before they take a stand on controversial christian issues. the reason i cant discuss christian issues with you is because you are not a christian, and you presently (note i say presently, and it doesnt have to remain so) do not have the capacity to discern the will, the spirit behind the laws, statutes and commands of God because you dont have the Holy Spirit operating in your life, and until you have the right spirit, you will remain dead and unfruitful in spiritual things. you will never experience christ in his beauty, the true power of the believer, the devil would so short-change you to the extent that when your eyes eventually opens, you would wonder who cast a spell on you. i only hope your eyes clear while you still have breath in your nostrills. frosbel give your life to Christ and not the founder of your sect. NB dont be deceived by those telling you how great a job you are doing, they would only keep you blind. i would have loved to pray for you again, but the last time i did, you called it a pagan prayer, nevertheless: Lord open the eyes of this child of yours that he may see the Light of Christ and experience you in the beauty of your holiness, to the glory of your holy name. free him from the grip of the evil one and set him apart for true christian service. I pray in the name of Jesus our Lord. Amen. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Satanism or Christianity by dokie: 11:14pm On Mar 31, 2013 |
frosbel: Thank you brother.i have told you you are under captivity and you cannot see it. the devil is driving you to destruction, employing your time to heep sin upon yourself and you think you are doing God a favor. if you were to be a true christian, you would have made your points and moved on to evangelize those who have never even heard about christ. but you are spending all your time gathering information from a bunch of deluded people's website like david stewalt of jesus is savior and jack chicks, calling people who have placed their trust in Jesus pagans, while the real pagans continue in their woes and you think you are fulfilling your call as a follower of christ. wake up frosbel, your zeal is being employed by the devil to cause confusion and if you do not repent and channel your energy to proper spread of the christian message, you are on your way to damnation. though you might not know it, you are an agent of the devil, a worker of iniquity, your ministry cannot bear fruits. if you win convert, they are usually spiritually ignorant people yet proud, arrogant and sturborn. NOTE you are working against Christ and you will fail and suffer a great disgrace when the Lord is ready to deal with you except you repent. if you notice, there are a couple of people that think like you in nl but i have never related any of my post to them, i have someho taken a special interest in you and i will follow you as you go on posting, not to join issues with you but to remind you whose work you are doing, the devil's, hoping that one day, you will see the light and be free. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Easter Celebration Biblical Or is it A Pagan way of Worship? by dokie: 4:50am On Mar 31, 2013 |
gunners160: I was chattin wit a frnd 2day nd i asked her hw is she preparin 4 easter only 4 her 2 tell me dat she dnt celebrate easter i asked her y she told me dat it is a pagan way of worship nd nt biblical. pls is easter celebration nt biblical because i am confuse ooooooif you r SINCERELY looking for clarification on this issue, why dont you ask one of the leaders in your church, you could get some help from them. while you are at that, i appeal to you to ignore posts from people like ijawkid, frosbel, freksy and their likes. i believe they belong to the same group. they belong to HIGH CONTROL religions e.g. watch tower society aka jehovers witness, church of jesus christ of latter day saint a.k.a mormons and some other like that. you can read about them on the net. these guys are on nairaland to spread the ideologies of their false prophet founders, they themselves are in ideological bondage. they cant think for themselves, they are brainwashed, they are under strict supervision and are told that they would be damned if they left the group. thats why they are called high control religions. when ever you see their posts, read it carefully and discern if the spirit of love can be found in the tone of their posts. please, dont lend an ear to anything they say. even if you chose not to celebrate easter again just avoid them for they are agents of the devil (though they are not aware) working hard to destroy the basic truths of the gospel of the risen Christ we celebrate his resurrection today, the same one they claim to preach. if any of them claims that what i am saying is not true regarding their religion let the person mention the name of his or her "church" and lets check if its not one of the high control religions most of them founded by disillusioned americans in the 19th and early 20th centuries. you would see testimonies of those who managed to leave the group. 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Easter Celebration Biblical Or is it A Pagan way of Worship? by dokie: 4:19am On Mar 31, 2013 |
souldust: @fresky when christians go to church on easter, they go to hear the word of God which is most time centered on the message of th resurection. In the end, they get a deeper understanding of the mystery of the resurection and their faith is lifted from glory to glory.dont waste your time trying to explain anything to these guys, they dont need your explanation. they have been hypnotized by the spirit of the false prophets that founded their sects. simple things common sense shows, they dont see because they are under a great bondage. dont waste your time arguing with them, pray for them instead, they need all the help they can get. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Patron Saints Of Christendom or Pagan Saints Of Rome by dokie: 2:39pm On Mar 30, 2013 |
frosbel: Can you explain this short YouTube below :frosbel, look i have been involved in arguments with people like you for many years and the Holy Spirit (who you think is maybe a wind or force rather than a person) has taught me not to argue with folks like you for it leads nowhere. so giving me a video to watch and explain its import to you is a waste of my time and a device of the devil against my focus on important spiritual issues. all.i want to point out to you is that you are being manipulated by the ideologies of a false prophet and i wish you could be free from their grip. many catholics have left the catholic church and many continue to leave out of choice. we believe in the intercession of the saints, the intercession of Mary, purgatory, papal infallibility, having images in the church, rosary, relics of the saints etc. we believe in these teachings. they may not be biblical and we agree still with them. the church has always maintained that everything in the bible is true but not everything that is true is in the bible for the church had existed for about 300 years before the bible. As such the church's teachings stem from tradition, the bible aswell as the magisterum. those whose faith cannot carry this truth have left to other churches. some have become better christians where they are today, no doubt about that, some have become atheists, some more confused due to the things they met in other denominations, and others have fallen into the hands of false prophets (like yourself) and are on thier way to damnation except they begin to apply common sense. either way, mother church remains steadfast in her teachings those that accept stay, those that cant leave, those that return are accepted with open arms and those that convert we rejoice about. we dont tell anyone that leaves that they will perish or that they are lost, we warn our people not to become victims of false prophets like your sect for they will lead them away into damnation.in terms of the many evils members of the church including past popes have committed against humanity in the past, the church has appologised and would continue to appologise as more are discovered. if the world has not forgiven the church, God has forgiven the church and continues to forgive its members when they err, even the pope sins and should askfor forgiveness. it might interest you to know that the church does not hide the fact that she has had bad popes in the past and does not rule out the possibility of having such in future, thats why the faithful are called on to pray earnestly that the Holy Spirit selects a leader for the church through the conclave, and even if a bad pope emerges, we trust in the most high God i accordance to his words that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. if you are confident in the falsehood of your false prophet, we catholics are confident not in the pope but in the person the pope is his vicar, Jesus Christ the son of God,beggotten not made, one in subtance with the father, God from God. we believe that God the Holy Spirit guides the church. if you know the Holy Spirit, you can inquire from him, if you don't have a relationship with him to the extent that you can communicate with him, i can only wish you good luck in your spiritual endeavors, for i cannot help you. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Patron Saints Of Christendom or Pagan Saints Of Rome by dokie: 7:16am On Mar 30, 2013 |
Omenuko: Guy, I really don't understand your question. Do you mean to say that Elijah visited heaven and then was transported back to earth? If so, show me where scripture says that.i think italo's advice on frosbel and his likes should be taken seriously, if not you could go nuts. the truth is that these guys are victims of a false prophet's sect. of course they claim to be christian but their fundamental aim is to disprove the traditional and fundamental teachings of christianity like the trinity,the reality of hell fire, baptisim in the name of the father, son and Holy Spirit etc. they are completely lost and their chances of being saved is very slim except you quit arguing with them and pray for them more. satan's grip on thier lives is so strong to the extent that you can hardly find anyone in their congregation that can think for themselves. if not how can people come up with arguments as empty as these guys come up with. they are prepared to argue from now till tmrw relating scriptural interpretations as they have been taught by their false prophet founder and their successors. they are usually told that if they leave that group that they have no chance of being saved as such they are bound in these high control fellowships that is leading them to death. if these guys would be willing to reveal their church,they are either jehovers witness, seventh day adventists, mormons, christadelphians, "bible" students, worldwide church of God etc. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis Washes Prisoners' Feet On Maundy Thursday by dokie: 8:35pm On Mar 29, 2013 |
frosbel: The Trinity is a PAGAN catholic doctrine that she has passed on to her many harlot daughters.ah, i was right. i knew it from the tone of your posts that you are not a christian but belong to a sect. you see frosbel, the catholic church teaches that a fellowship of people that reject the age long dogma of the Trinity, that Jesus Christ is God as is the Holy Spirit, is not a christian fellowship but a sect. i can afford to discuss issues on catholicism with regular protestants and pentecostals because they are christians, but not you. You belong to a sect formed by one false prophet, who probably has lied to you that there is no fire in hell since the dead know nothing amongst many other falsehoods. your refusal to accept the Trinitarian dogma limits or totally eliminates the ability of the Holy Spirit to operate in your life. as such you cannot gain new knowledge. the only knowledge you have is that handed over to you by the founder of your sect who is a false prophet and by extension an agent of the devil. this is the knowledge you will live and die with except a miracle of deliverance happens, because you are under the grip of the strong man the devil. this being the case, you are One feet deep in hell already. it is possible that you have not even been baptized, and even if you have, probably not in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit. what ever the case is frosbel on a serious note you need the real Jesus christ, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in your life and not that jesus taught in your sect who is not God but maybe just an angel as jehovers witness say. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis Washes Prisoners' Feet On Maundy Thursday by dokie: 1:31pm On Mar 29, 2013 |
deols: You keep drooling over my name. Frosbel is a christian..what church does frosbel go to? i have asked him this in another thread and he has refused to answer. after reading his posts, i believe he is a product and a victim of a 19th or 20th century american false prophet like charles russels of jehover's witness and thier likes. i am almost certain that frosbel does not believe in the trinity, or that jesus is God himself. until i am convinced otherwise, frosbel is not a christian. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Patron Saints Of Christendom or Pagan Saints Of Rome by dokie: 10:31pm On Mar 28, 2013 |
frosbel: Don't pray your Pagan prayers for me, I reject them all.I did not mention Mary or any saint. I called on the Holy Spirit to bring understanding etc to the glory of God and in the name of Jesus and it is a pagan prayer to you? it just keeps getting clearer to me how unchristian you are, thats the only reason you will attack the catholic church the way you are doing. i am almost certain you are a product and a victim of a false prophet. what church do you attend, i want to know. at least if catholics should leave their church based on ur exposè, a good place to start considering fellowshipping should be your church. what do you think? or you dont belong to any church? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Patron Saints Of Christendom or Pagan Saints Of Rome by dokie: 7:09pm On Mar 28, 2013 |
frosbel: "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten." - Ecclesiastes 9:5 |
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