₦airaland Forum

7lives:
Stop saying what you don't know, I have been to about 85% of LGs in the north west, did you know that the cheapest thing in this place is FOOD?, farm fresh food oh.
Don't be deceived, you need to go to these places to understand what I'm talking about.
These people have also mastered this thing called irrigation, their farmland are nor really rain dependent, which means there is nothing like dry season, my concern is that the farmlands are being over exploited which may have adverse effect on their production in the future.

What is the contribution of all this to the national purse? According to many reports, Kano was once part of the economic hubs in not only Nigeira but west Africa in the early 1960s and late 1970s. Now what is their contribution? Come back with facts and figures. For fvck sake their contribution should reflect on the national purse. We are not talking about personal farming man.

CFCman:
As a US Senator, he will earn a yearly salary of $175,000.

Earn less than Nigerian senators I believe. In view of this and the comparable GDP per capita between both countries let that sink in.

Amoto94:
Sorry for ya self

You couldn't counter those points. The truth stings innit? Anyways, gotta go enjoy London marathon.

Amoto94:
Dollyak Benin is the capital of Edo a SS state, your ignorance is exposed once again

Oversight yes but Ignorance exposed again? Ignorance that NC shares nothing culturally with Northenerns or that they are not fully accepted by the fulanis/Hausa elites or that the bulk of agricultural contribution from the north comes from NC? In Agriculture, Ondo alone through cocoa, contributes way more than you parasites contributes to Nigeria. This is even better because it provides positive coefficient as they are mostly exported to other countries.
Anyways, don't try to shift the goal post. Post the contribution of your people to Nigeria or forver remain quiet as a backward parasite you are.
I might reply once you have done that.

BMedia:
I hope you're aware that for the first time, oil revenue is only contributing N820 billion (less than 20%) to our 6 trillion Naira budget and the rest is from non oil sources.

Read.

Where is it coming from? The north ? The southerners are the ones contributing the bulk (more than 95%) of those figures. The stat was also posted on Nl few months ago.
Anyways, I am done with you.

BMedia:
Madam don't be a hypocrite and take your own advice.

You came here shouting that the North contributed less, you have been shouting that Kaduna is getting more than Oyo despite allegedly contributing less...

You were asked then to prove you're not spewing madness by backing up your figures...

Oyo's figures....ZERO
Kano's contribution..... ZERO
The North's figures.... ZERO

As I said earlier, this is not a beer parlour.

Arguing with a f00l surely does reduce intelligence. The small contribution of Northerners has been a well know facts and based on past dealings with you lots, providing sources is just a futile exercise. Check my previous post if you want to see the stats.

BMedia:
[s]You're grossly ignorant.

1. Which of those states is a southern state?

2. Go and read up on Kebbi States prowess in Rice and Tomato production. You are not even aware of the new initiatives to further expand the sector in the North.

I repeat, you are seriously ignorant, nothing personal.

Still waiting for those figures.
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Provide the figures or shut up. To call your accussation of ignorance an irony has to be up there in the many master piece of understaments.

Amoto94:
Saying Northerners contribute the least to the Nigerian purse is a flat lie. And do not come up with those NBS figures because those numbers doesn't represent the reality. Find something better to do with your life instead of bashing Northerners at every given opportunity. This is becoming stale

A typical selective Northerner who only cares about figures that favours them . Gives us the stats that prove your contribution to Nigeria or shut up. You know the truth and chose to ignore it because it doesn't suit your arguementagenda. What are the contribution of NW and NE in proportion to other regions? Simplified enough?

BMedia:
If the North should all its contribution to Nigeria, not just its economy will be in coma, but your stomach too. Go and educate yourself on the contribution of Agriculture to the GDP and the North's contribution to that.

I know the argument comes down to Agriculture majority of which are produced in Plateau, Kogi and benue state. Please stop claiming this people as core Northerners. It is often said that a middlebelts can never rule Nigeria because they are neither accepted in the North except for stratetigic reasons.
Once Middlebelters allign with the South you lots will calm down.

BMedia:
Stop being lazy madam, you came up with the baseless assertion about the North, now you've been asked to provide data on regional contribution (which any sane person should have already had before making your assertion) and you're now running in circles asking me to provide Kano's contribution. Mind you, you also need to provide Oyo's contribution.

Or you can leave this thread if all your opinion was based on is 'facts out there in the beer parlour'

I want you to provide the source yourself. The source is out there even here on Nl.

BMedia:
While I agree with your second point that igbos marginalized themselves as a result of their greed and lack of political strategy, I strongly disagree with your first point that northerners contribute the least, especially as it was not backed by facts and figures and stinks of bigotry.

Kaduna has one of the most robust economies in Nigeria for your info and I can back that up with facts and figures.

This highlighted was your argument so I want you to back it up with source. You can't move the goal post. Many datas are out there (even on nl), starting from IGR to economic output. Do research on my previous posts and you will find many source as well. I can't be spoon feeding you guys all the time.

Amoto94:
NC share cultural and religious similarities with NW and NE, so your assertion is false and not to be taken seriously. We know where you're coming from and what your problem is. All what you're trying to do is divide and conquer. It is not the fault of Northerners that our Southern counterparts are not united, unite your region and tackle your issues.

Which NC? Kogi, Kwarans, benue, Benin, or Plateau? I have read quite a few books on Nigeria so I don't know from which source you are giving your assertion.
Kwarans (not culturally-Mostly Yorubas), nasarawa are the only ones that exclusively shares religious beliefs with the core Northerners.

BMedia:
Until you can all provide each regions contribution to GDP what you're saying is complete hogwash.

Facts are out there. Tell me Kaduna's and kano's contribution to Nigeria and why they are both getting way more fund than OYO for instance. I want fact and figures from a real source (I do know a few mind you).

BMedia:
This is the beginning of your blindness. You are comparing what 1 politically weak region gets to what 3 northern regions get, 3 regions that you fraudulently classify as one 'core north'. What is core North and where is it referenced in our constitution?

This will be the basis of any argument.

You are the blind person here. You guys don't care about NC, they share nothing (culturally) with you guys,doesn't get as much funding as the core northerners, so don't include them in your write up.
Let's just ignore the questionable population of both NW and NE being bandied about, what does the whole SE gets in proportion to NW? Let's start from there.

I specifically mentioned core northerners which is exclusively NW and to an extent NE.

BMedia:
While I agree with your second point that igbos marginalized themselves as a result of their greed and lack of political strategy, I strongly disagree with your first point that northerners contribute the least, especially as it was not backed by facts and figures and stinks of bigotry.

Kaduna has one of the most robust economies in Nigeria for your info and I can back that up with facts and figures.

Let's back it up with facts. I am happy to end up with egg on my face. The floor is yours.

For the usual suspects complaining about "“The North takes by far, more than it contributes to the coffers of Nigeria".
This statement was made in proportion to other regions and if you disagree let's trash it out. In economic balance the core Northern state has the most negative quotient. In other words they get wayy more than they contribute with respect to other regions. What SE get is a fraction of what the core northerners get.


(The middle belts are not core northerners.)

ukomko:
Are u reading this from the frontpage?
Or does this look like a lie?

Well I do agree with all the point.
1. I agree that proportionately, core northerners get the most and contribute the least. I.e It's criminal how kaduna gets more funds than Oyo state.
2. The deliberate marginalisation of SE being the root cause of biafra agitation is also absolute. Though, I blame the selfish elders in Igbo land who are not strategic but only cares about their wallet.

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ukomko:
If you can't believe that source then forget your frontpage, i don't want your frontpage.

Credibility matters i am afraid. Have a good day

Can you provide a more credible source so this can hit the front page? Biafran source are full of propaganda

Federal Government needs to invest in the east. It is really unfair and short-sighted to keep prioritising the unproductive core Northern states over every other region. Apparently, Ibadan Airport is being left to rot as well while Kaduna is getting upgrades. In terms of Economic potential, Enugu should get priority over all Northern states bar Kano while OYO should get priority over all Northern states.

Nigeria needs to do away with the misplaced priorities mostly fuelled by tribalism.

compoundC:
https://nationalmirroronline.net/new/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/idanre-620x350.jpg

Is that a picture of ondo state ? So beautiful.

Let's be honest fayose messed up. Irrespective of your political inclination or disagreement with the opposing party, you can't just go and undermine your president on the international stage.

She seems to have a type. Gangsters presumably.

Fair play on the election narratives.

1. However, to suggest you were solely responsible for making Nigeria the biggest economy in Africa is what I call dishonesty. It is well known that Nigerian economy-gdp was massively under estimated so the new estimation was just a confirmation of well known fact and has nothing to do with your policy.

2. Making dangote the richest man I'm Africa is now an achievement? Gosh.
Couldn't even list a proper achievement.

If found guilty of corruption he should be jailed. Any corrupt politicians irrespective of their contribution to a community must face the wrath of the law.
The cumulative benefits of public money properly invested in a society instead of stealing, outweighs any pittance PR contribution to any society or people in any form.
So my advice is for people to look beyond the PR charade of this man. Allegedly, based on this forum he didn't do much in kwara so good riddance.

Rants over

pazienza:
The loss of Ilorin must be painful to the SW Yorubas, while the Ilorin people themselves, seem not to care, I can relate to the pain of the SW Yorubas, I pray that one day, they will be able to unite the whole of Yoruba speaking people, from Kwara and Kogi, and even the Itsekiris, if they permit.

Nothing is sweeter than for Brothers and sisters to dwell together, I envy monoethnic countries like Germany,Korea and Japan, it must be a great feeling sharing same country with just people from your ethnic language only, you can go to any part of the country and speak your local lect confident that everyone understands you.

This comment is so real. Gosh.

Amoto94:
Hatemonger and e-bigot go and find something better to do with your frustrated life instead of fanning the ember of hate across NL. You ought to be promoting love, harmony and peaceful coexistence instead of otherwise.

Frustrated life you said . When you are treated equally instead of being second class citizens to fulani then come back and talk about the definition of frustrated life. I don't hide my feelings about fulanis and any attempt to liberate Yorubas from fulanis brainwashing is welcome by me. You guys are the ones leading a frustrated life and you are not liberated either. What a shame. Perhaps because I have read enough stories about Yoruba to know we should have been a lot greater than this. Old SW led by awolowo was competing with Egypt in terms of development. Now they are being sucked dry. Massive injustice that kaduna gets more allocation than Oyo state.
Save your preaching for someone else.

Hobashola:
ok. we don hear ooo. I am a full-fledged Ilorin boy and i know that the only Fulani thing in Ilorin is the Emir's turban. even d emir no dey form Fulani man. I have never even heard him or his chiefs speak Fulani. I doubt if they understand the language sef. Meanwhile,people who are not here go dey use pcm for our headache. abeg leave us oooo. we didn't have a choice on what happened centuries ago. And really,what will depicting Ilorin as either Fulani or Yoruba change,eh? abeg,make everybody face better things jare.

If you are a Yoruba then you are a gullible person who has lost his sense of being. How can you be comfortable with being ruled by a fulani? I have read many historical facts on past wars in Nigeria and I can only conclude Kwara people to be a coward, betrayals and shortsighted people. Fools deserve their leaders seems appropriate with you lots especially with saraki. Fools are easily dismissive of their history, same thing i keep telling my African American/British friends about white people.

That cloth is not meant for her type of breast. Not flattering.

Dearly beloved
We are gathered here today
to get through this thing called life"

- Prince

Let your energy swirl the universe.

slysteel:
how is it easier? an rpg is worse because its propelled which means once it hits an object with force it exlopdes, while a hand thrown grenade counts down using a timer, in some cases people can pick them and throw back or have some seconds to escape before it goes off, so its easier to escape the latter than the former.

Rpg are normally formed into a shaped charge so that most of the explosion is aimed into one direction, making it more useful against armor and object with larger body. Greenade on the other hand are designed to throw shrapnel all around. The fact Greenade covers more area gives it more advantage IMO. Rpg fired horizontally will definitely be less accurate isn't it
Not an expert tho.

Logically it should be easier to escape RPG than a grenade. Conversely, opposite principle applies to larger bodies like Helicopters , planes etc. Simple physics. Escaping grenade three times is certainly more impressive?

cassieblake:
His job is to protect lives and property and ensure a free and safe environment for everyone and he is doing just fine.

You either have to be a typical baised Northerner or an ignoramus to make this statement.