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paulGrundy:
I just tire for the guy oh! Peharps he is ashamed of watchtowers alteration of John 1:1.

be looking for support while not answering my post o.

Everyone can see that you have ones again refused to comment and tell us ur view of the scriptures I mentioned earlier.

You have also once again refused to tell us "how the word was with God".

brocab:
You don't have to lie in public, The New World Translation Bible is used by the Jehovah witnesses.
John 1:1 "In {the} beginning the word was, and the word was with God,and the word was a God.

Pls show to the world where I lied. Refusal to do so will show you are the one lying.

We all know this is the most common verse of contention between the Jehovah witnesses and the Christians, your false assumption is that Jesus is not God in the flesh but Michael the archangel who became a man. And since you have denied that Jesus is divine you have altered John 1:1.

Maybe you have not been listening to them and decided to create ur own view of their beliefs.

Hmmmmm What is the best way to explain this to a JW?
To understand Jesus as God on earth praying to His Father in heaven, we need to realize that the eternal Father and the eternal Son had a relationship before Jesus took upon Himself the form of a man.

And what was these their relationship o.

John 5:19-27 "So Jesus said to them, Truly truly" I say to you, the Son can do nothing on His own accord, but only what He see's the Father doing, For what the Father does, the Son does like wise, Verse 23 "they all may honour the Son, just as they honoured the Father.
John 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, Just as I have kept My Fathers commandments and abide in His Love. Jesus did not become the Son of God when He was born in Bethlehem, He has always been the Son of God from eternity past, still is the Son of God and always will be.

You have just shown us that the father gives jesus commands in which jesus obeys.
The angels are likewise called Gods sons.

Isaiah 9:6 "Tell us the Son was given' and the child was born. Jesus was always part of the tri-unity along with the Holy Spirit, The tri-unity always existed, the Father God the Son God, and the Spirit God, not three God's but one God existing in 3 persons.

And not even one bible verse to back this statement up with?

John 10:30 "Jesus taught He and His Father are ONE. Meaning He and His Father are the same substance and the same essence.

But jesus and the father are not the same person!
And if they are not the same person, who does jesus call the father? Answer : his God, the only true God.

The Father Son and Spirit are three co-equal persons existing as God. These three had and continue to have eternal relationship.

They are equal and yet one is always sent by the other, told what to do and openly tells you that the other is his God.
They are equal and yet one is subjected to the other.
They are equal and yet one tells you that all authority has been giving(by the other)to him. And despite that authority , he is still subjected. They are equal and yet one says he is God of the other, and the other confirms this statement.

You belief this statement you made above and yet you can't back it up with a single bible verse that talks about their equality.

If you knew this, then you will understand what the meaning is to John 1:1 In the King James bible.

If you know what heb 1: 8,9 says then you will know what john meant by " the word(a god) was with God.
John himself must have heard what jesus told mary to tell the disciples after his ressurection, but if I quote it, you wunt read it.

cjfbn:
Want to ask you a question. Do you know that you do not cease to exist when you die?
When you get this straight, the issue will be clearer to you. What man does not understand,he sees it as evil.
Those saying familiar spirit,cannot explain the phenomenon thus they use a general term "familiar spirit".
This medium is not the best to deal with your question, have an open mind and if your seeking is genuine, clarity will come.

How and in what form do you now exist when you die o.

brocab:
As I have explained the word also say's and the word was God, No-one has refused anything, I was trying to explain to her once she knows who god is, then the scripture will come alive

She did not ask you that, she asked you to explain "the word was with God".

but the argument is silly, reading from two different bibles, won't answer the questions asked.
My King James say's In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word is God, your bible say's the word is a God, this is not Spiritual.

Is there difference in "the word was with God" as stated in the translations?
If there is pls let us know, and if there is not, pls let us understand what ur bible means when it stated that " the word was with God"

For you to back up a JW, of course you must be one yourself right?
We all know who God is, but the question I had asked her, how does the bible describe God, what description does the bible give to us who God is, what is God how does the bible describe God?
Does it say He's a Man? Like the JW's believe his a man, you believe Jesus and God are two different people.

We all dnt know who God is.
How does the bible describe God? It depends on which God you are reffering to the God that was refered to in heb 1:8 or his God that was refered to in heb 1:9

Can you provide prove that jehovahs witnesses believe that God is a man?

Yes, I believe that jesus and God are two different persons and can provide numerous scriptures to butress my views if you ask for it. But note, if you request for the scriptural evidences, you must be ready to provide ur explanation of that particular scripture in case you have a contrary opinion to my explanation of the scripture mentioned.

Adam said, he saw the Lord God walking in the garden, He didn't say he saw the Father and the Son walking in the Garden.

And neither I'm I saying he said so.

And of course without she knowing, there's no point trying to guess the answers who God is and what parts He plays in the bible.
And yes I am a Spirit filled Christian, and how does one tell a Spirit filled Christian? You wouldn't know, Only because you preach another gospel.

As a spirit filled person, explain to her who God is so that others reading these thread will know too.

I use the scriptures to identify someone who has the holy spirit, the fruitage of that spirit is evident in the actions of that person . I raised ten points in which a individuals that has the holy spirit must observe if he associates with a body or organization. Your spirit has not seen anything good in any of the ten things mentioned, and if it has,it has refused to tell you to comment on it.

paulGrundy:
Using eve analogy is logical, it is your interpretation of the analogy that is illogical.

And yet you refused to quote or comment on the part where I expressed my view on how illogical your analysis is.

That is if I go by your interpretation,

You have not giving any contrary interpretation of eve being man while adam is man also.
If the two are man that means we have two men! I'm I right or wrong?
If eve and adam are not the same person, then we are talking about 2 different persons or people!. If I'm wrong then give us ur explanation of eve being man and adam being man at the same time!

Chill, its just an analogy not to be taken deeply. If I had said dolphinheart is sonoflucifer, does it mean they are the same handle? NO!
Then why did I use it? To explain something.

Then what does it mean, you just told us what it does not mean.
What does it explain?

I addressed the scriptures by using that analogy. The problem you have with me was my refusal to insert "a" or "an" in my analogy.

I asked: how do you explain " the word was with God". I did not ask you directly, but you jumped in to give your own answer. You gave an example of eve and man.
That analogy is false as it does not explain the question asked and even if look into the analogy proper, it only supports the view that we have more than 1 God/MAN being talked about as a different entity/body/person is also MAN/God as at when you say eve is man.
An analogy that can't explain the complexity of the issue should not be used in the first place.

[
quote] Which point is that? ??[/quote]The points raised in the post that you first quoted.

Its part and related to what we are discussing: the interpretation of John 1:1. I raised those points to expose why you are finding it hard to accept a simple analogy/truth.

I did not ask about the interpretation or translation of john 1:1. Go and look at the question raised again.

For cutting part of my post off, it shows you have either accepted what was stated there or have no contrary view to what was stated.

paulGrundy:
The bolded is illogical, if Eve was Man, it does not mean two men existed. If that were the case, it would have read Eve was a man.

Good that you now understood that using eve as an example by you is illogical. And if you insist on using eve, it will mean that eve was "a man" and that there where two men involved.
You analogy claims eve is man and refused to accept that as at that time adam existed as man, showing us 2 men cus eve is not adam.

Everybody here can see how ur analogy exposes your beliefs, and ur deliberate refusal to address the scriptures in my initial and second posts which you quoted.
Your refusal to comment about the points I raised on jehovahs witnesses also shows ur motive(s)

You post below is not part of the initial discussion on how the word was with God as we are not discussing yet the translation of that part of the verse.

The original greek read: The word was God, the watchtower included "a" which is not the original greek translation.
Reading: The word was a god.
There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an", so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why.

1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word's function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word's root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object.

2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is", its case ending must match the noun's case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule.

3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word".

They might be ressurected as part of the unrighteous.

Samuel that refused to see Saul while alive will now be summoned by someone who Samuels God had told samuel not to associate with so as to speak to Saul.
you can believe that that was Samuels spirit cus I know the devils deceptive ability is strong.

By the way, does a mans spirit go to hell when he dies?

paulGrundy:
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

The three "a,b,c" clauses referred to in this document:
John 1:1a "In the beginning was the Word,"
John 1:1b "and the Word was with God,"
John 1:1c "and the Word was God."
This verse is so simple it is impossible to get it wrong. An illustrated paraphrase of the text would be:

"In the beginning was EVE, and EVE was with MAN, and EVE was MAN. SHE was in the beginning with MAN."

Even adopting the Jehovah's Witnesses paraphrase, the New World Translation's, (NWT hereafter) unscholarly insertion of "a god" of the text makes no difference:

"In the beginning was EVE, and EVE was with MAN, and EVE was a MAN.
Just as "man" can refer specifically to male to the exclusion of female, So also God can refer to the Father to the exclusion of the Son. However, just as "man" can include both male and female as a class of being, (Gen 5:2 "He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them Man", so too "God" can include both Father and Son as a class of being, as in John 1:1.

Eve was with adam Bro.
If you want to use names, use names, and if u want to use description, use description.

In the beggining was EVE, and EVE was with ADAM , and eve was ADAM? Naaaaaa! Wrong analogy.

In the beggining was the WOMAN, and the WOMaN was with MAN, and the WOMAN was MAN? Another false analogy.

You have to find another example.

Even if eve was MAN, that means two MANs(men) existed at the same time as adam and eve. Therefore the verse was talking about 2 Gods, it proper to refer to one of them as a God as some scholars and translators ascribe.
These same 2 Gods exist in heb 1: 8,9

pdppower:
Thanks. If Jesus is described as ' a mighty god' and his father the Almighty is God, how many gods are there then ?

Plenty.

Heb 1:8,9 talks about 2 of them. One is a God to the other God .

brocab:
Until you can describe God in the bible-then you may understand the word was with God and the word was God, but because you can't explain it to me, you won't understand John 1:1 "These very scriptures are written so we can understand them clearly, it takes the Holy Spirit to teach us spiritually, without the Holy Spirit-you have Buckley's and none, to even know the hidden secrets about the bible.
I am trying to help you, but without you having the Spirit of God, I feel it's impossible even trying.
Are you a JW?

Your refusal to explain how the "word was with God " has shown that you are as confused about the doctrine as those who formulated it. You want her to explain who God is before you tell her how the word was with God! Imagine.

You that thinks you have the holy spirit, pls tell us who God is, who jesus called God and how the word was with God.!

brocab:
I have just finish reading your page, and it's funny, you JW's always give the right answers but you don't practice them yourselves. But this isn't the case, Jesus said go out unto all the world and preach the gospel-His gospel, not your own.
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God, but you have changed it to "a God"? Why?
You know you are lying against God.
John 2:19 "Jesus answered, and said, destroy this temple, and in 3 day's I will raise it up.
Colossians 2:12 "Buried with Him in baptism, wherein also ye risen with Him through the faith of the operation of God, who have raised Him from the dead.
Romans 8:11 "But the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead,shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you.
I have never heard any of you raise these scriptures up. And yet these scriptures are written in the bible, ok your bibles maybe different in many ways, but most of you carry the King James bible,and its written in there proving Jesus and God are the same person.This is the truth you should be teaching-again Jesus said go out unto all the world a preach the gospel, His gospel, not the watchtowers gospel-you say the magazines are written about Christ, but you have refused to speak the truth about Christ.

The problem one faces when discussing with you is the fact that you dnt look at the points raised in the post you are quoting.
Can you explain what jesus himself said in the scriptures i quoted?

As to your question on john 1:1, jehovahs witnesses did not change the words to a God. To change would mean the words there where not what was there originally. You need to go and look into the translation of that verse before you believe those that accuse jehovahs witnesses of changing it.

if a person is with another person, then you are talking about 2 persons and not one, hence jesus cannot be with God and still be that same God. That jesus is a God, a mighty God is supported by the scriptures.

That jesus is almighty God is not supported by the scriptures for the scriptures and even jesus himself tells us that the father is greater, that jesus has a God, that he was giving power and authority by that God, that he is subjected and loyal to that God at all times, that at no point in time where they the same person.

Jesus did not pray to himself, he prayed to someone else, who he called the only true God. Me as I try to follow jesus, will pray to that same person through the name of the one who he sent to save us and who act as our mediator and high priest, jesus Christ.

Unlike most people who preach without opening the bible, even though they hold it in their hands, jehovahs witnesses use the scriptures extensively when talking about jesus and the one who went him, jehovah.

Jesus has a God at all times, he himself said it, identified him, told us about him and who he is, it is that God that must be worshiped just as jesus did.

Ken4Christ:
What the JW preach or teach is perverted gospel. They are anti Christ. Virtually all their messages are opposed to what the bible teaches. Examples are;

Is this true? Let's see....

1. They do not support warfare nor participate in them. They try to live in peace at all times. They will not kill their fellow humans for political reasons.
They try their best to follow jesus words found in matt chapt 5.

Hence they suffered for their neutrality during wars.

2. They do not participate in politics but put their hope on solving mans problem in Gods kingdom. Man is not capable of taking care of itself. World politics has shown Jeremiah to be right, hence they try to be no part of the world when it comes to rulership.

3. They have love among themselves and there meeting together is not segregated along tribal or skin colour lines. John 13:35

4. They do not support any form of sin and send away from their midst anyone who sins deliberately who does not change his ways the moment they noticed or discover such ones.

5. They believe jesus Christ is the son of God and follow his teachings recorded in the scriptures.
John 17:3 - This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent,
Jesus Christ.

John 20:17. -Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

Therefore as christians , they know who their God is and who their mediator is!

6. they adhere to God’s original
standard of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, with sexual immorality being the only valid basis for divorce as being taught by jesus .Matthew 19:4-9

7. They preach about Gods kingdom in all the earth as jesus instructed. Mark16:15

You see them on the street, in ur homes, bus stations talking about Gods kingdom and the role jesus plays in it.
And if they can not be with you always, you have the worlds most distributed, most published, never missed magazines to assist you in ur search for the truth through bible study.

8. They preach and belief that a person’s works prove that his faith is alive. ( James 2:24, 26) However, salvation cannot be earned—it comes through “the undeserved kindness of God.”— Galatians 2:16, 21.

9. They follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ and honor him as our Savior and as the Son of God. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 5:31)

10. There elders do not enrich themselves with members contributions. They do not hold titles such as "most high", most anything" or "father".
They do not collect tithes

I can go on and on. I am not ready to waste my energy for detailed analysis of each point.

There are no detailed analysis to support ur view on each point.

I am only helping the ignorant Nairalanders who are praising them to be properly enlightened on who they are so you will not perish with them. May God grant you understanding in the name of Jesus. Amen.

Your post is for ignorant people. Those who search the scriptures to find out the truth are not ignorant!

kITATITA:
I'm also reluctant to criticize Chief Falae; the EFCC hasn't invited him yet. His interrogation may center on confirming how much he received from Anenih and how to refund it. I don't think that Chief Falae has done any wrong if he didn't know that the money given to his party was stolen.

He has to prove that the money was giving to the party and not to him. If evidence supports that he collected the money personally despite using it for party affairs,then.........





Anyway sha, I've added one more personality to those that can eat "Alubosa" without difficulty.

wristbangle:
No mind us especially those agberos.

Tunde: ma wo saliu sa, ma fo ori e. (Look at that saliu guy, I will break his head)


Saliu: pulling clothes, wristwatch, necklace, shoe, remaining boxer alone: Tunde se e mi lo n ba soro; are u talking to me tunde?


Next thing.

Tunde and saliu exchanging blow from 5km distance . Abeg how 5km flexing fist wan take hit their head?

Years later......

Both saliu and tunde celebrate the marriage of their children after using the agbero earnings to send them to school.
...... It good to try and break each others head from a distance atimes.

ElekeNtioba:
you repelled which jihadists?? your pple where traditionalists before the Sokoto cliphate started its land-grabbing southwards. Today half your population is muslim.

Infact if not for the coming of d British dat halted Hausa/Fulani expansionism, the entire yorubaland would have been knocking their heads on the ground to d moon god.

What happened to ur traditions when a superior force came around?

The yorubas where smart enough to know that the cliphate consist of "ready to die" people, and could best be stopped by "ready to kill" british!. See where they are today cus of that smartness, the loss of intelligent youths to tribal war was avoided.

Sunofgod:
C.H.A.M.E.L.E.O.N.S . . . . .

https://www.factzoo.com/sites/all/img/reptiles/jacksons-chameleon.jpg

Among its class(reptilia) the chameleon is unique and very well respected. Few could change there personal preferences to allign with their present situation without losing their identity.
The yorubas can adapt easily to most economic, political, tribal and religious situations without stress and eventually come out as champions, while maintaining their identity.
They know who they are and make sure(like chameleons) that one foot is definitely secured in the race for development before taking the the next step.

The crocodile is not a coward, but its skin is used for shoes and women bags!

alexis:
The point I was making was that the verse referred to the body and not something else i.e. soul/spirit. To your question - are you asking for he definition of what a soul is as compared to that of a physical body?

Not asking for comparison with the soul. I want to hear your view on what the soul is, its definition, identification and example, using the scripture and known facts.

Shegricho:
One thing i know about arguing with your type is that you will never and have never tried to view things from the other person's perspective, anyways sha. We shall meet on judgment day.

You re the one classifying people into types.!
You just claimed that some people will never view things from the other persons perspectives, yet when I asked you about your perspectives on some scriptural verses, you still (up till now) have refused to talk about it!

Are we supposed to have our own personal perspectives or perspectives are supposed to be based on scritural teachings?
If scriptures that support my views are shown to you and you have a contrary opinion, as someone who claims to be a Christian, you are expected to show me where i got the understanding of the scripture I quoted wrong. But what have you done , you have prejudged without knowing me personaly, you have classified while still refusing to adress the scripture quoted.

First opportunity.

Question is, who be using the 3.6 b naira cars.? Is there a reason behind the buying of those cars now?

You do anyhow! , you see anyhow! .

If doing anyhow is not in the constitution, dnt complain saying seeing anyhow is not in the constitution.

Some are now shouting, they saw a hand writing on their TV screen saying " you go suffer for the loot you lootedly looted soon".

paulGrundy:
Hi, I can see you are very dedicated to your work keep it up. I love people who are like that, curious, they are usually very sincere and open to truth

Although am not a witness, am sometimes critical about witnesses but I love people who are more open to the truth just like myself.

If you need help with your assignment, I recomend you contact dolphinheart. That guy has a very knowledge of the watchtower.

I hope I may have been of help to you

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Still dnt think madrid got it right today

obixcel:
Did u like it?

Yep.

Ubenedictus:
1. i have told u 1 thing, the early writting clearly say it never was celebrated b4 d equinox by any1 b4 Hilel.

What year did the hilel calender celebrate the Passover, before the equinox.?

2. D church didnt use a calender it used d equinox.

Used the equinox to fix ur own new celebrations, that's ok and accepted.

So how did you use the equinox to fix the Passover date?
Can this equinox be used to fix other dates too? E.g , christmass.?

What happened to the calender you used then as regards the equinox?

Ubenedictus:
1. What points did i miss?

These are the points again :

1.in the hebrew calender, a month is added every few years, that is their own format or way in calculating the years in their calender,its a rule in their calculations and they dnt just add it abitrarily.....
Adding days to a particular
calender year is in no way
different from the gregorian
calender that also add a day
every four years.

2. Like I've said before, no
calender is accurate in
respect to number of days in a
year. and that is how God
wanted it to be , events where
supposed to be observed and
not marked. an example is
that dates marked even in the
gregorian calender will have
to be shifted by a day in 2099.!

3. The attempt to fix permanently, a fixed date on
the hebrew calender unto a
date on the gregorian
calender is impossible and
was done for pride and selfish
reasons. For example , if
Jesus was born in tenet 9 and
that date falls on Dec 25th in
2014, in 2015, that date will
fall on Dec 13/14th . Therefore
it will be falsehood to
celebrate Jesus birth on Dec
25th 2015.

4.Oga, again I say, all the false
and delibrate shifting of date
done by different Christian
churches was because of
pride , because of "na my own
understanding better" attitude,
and because of refusal to rely
on the Jews and their
celebrations .
Or did they get the actual dates correct when they created a new calender? No!

2. I haver done dat already and i have shown dat the ancient writter say d hebrew calender was change.

All you did was accuse without giving proof that can be cross checked. What year did the calender giving by the sahendrin go wrong?

Ur point contradicts ur argument, if d date doesnt matter because it is hard to measure time, then why are u busy arguing here about a date people extrated from one calender and placed on another. If d jewish calendar was changed/shift will its date still b corect?

First impossibility: to get an exact fixed date based on the movement of celestial bodies . Example , the equinox has not always been occuring on the same day or time. While the movement of the earth around the sun has been constant, no calender has been able to acurately fix it. Hence the hebrews did not bother to fix their calenders that way initially, their calenders are fixed by the date at which that celestial body decides to show itself. But due to a Christian world leader decisions, doing so became a problem.

Second impossibilty : it is impossible to use a fixed event on one calender to establish another fixed event on another calender.
The calenders have different calcations.
A good example is the christmass celebration.

I never said the date does not matter cus Its hard to measure time.!
The hebrews used the celestial bodies to fix their calender, and used their calender to fix their events. Hope u understand the arrangement.
They do not initially operate a fixed calender that does not observe celestial movements.

3. I gave d 'proof in my other posts. D early xtians rejected d changing of d jewish calendar hence setting easter to b independent of it.

You are repeating the same thing.

1. What date did this early christians reject the hebrew Calender, so that we can know if there where early christians or state church members.

2. Show proof that the calender by the sahendrin observed the Passover before the equinox.
There where many Jewish calenders during that time.

3. What calender did the church approve after rejecting the hebrew calender?

4. The new method was patterned after d old especially noting d fact dat as u said d hebrew calendar may lag for up to 11 days. They needed dates dat didnt lag for dat long.

Can you tell us the patterns your calenders and the old hebrew calender have in common.?
1.Do they have the same number of days in a year.
2. Is the month in ur calender determined by the appearance of the moon?
3. Why do you not leave the 11 days difference there as done by the isrealites.

Because you dnt like the old method of calculations. You decided to formulate a new one. The festivals that God initiated for the isrealites was celebrated using the old method, but because of pride and a desperate attempt to separate ur authority from that of the Jews, u decided to do away with any old method, the lunisolar method ( in which you are aware of the process and method of calculations), and create a new solar calender in which the general populace cannot but observe cus of ur political authority.

What was done is ten times worse than what the sahendrin did as pagan doctrines was now mixed with these calender.

You reject the hebrew calender cus of the equinox and Passover, yet you fail to see that your calenders could not fix an exact permanent date and time for the equinox.

5. D calendar is what shifted, d pasover dat never fell b4 d equinox started to do so.
Easter wasnt fixed on a calender, it was fixed on d sunday after d equinox.

Which calender,? The calender extablished by the sahendrin? Show proof, tell us which year these occured !.

What is Easter,? A scriptural celebration or a celebration created by ur church. The fixing of the date is dubious.!

Oselumhe:
Well mizjanet Jesus died for our sin,he was killed by during on the cross of calvalry......when someone dies his breathe sizes and nothing in his mortal body stops.......but your soul is immortal remember the bible said fear him not that can only kill your body..........your soul and spirit lives your body after death.....so Jesudied for our sin.....,do you understand

Where did you get this false stories from, expecially the underlined.

Best romance movie : the longest ride.
Best suspence(dnt know if the category exist): no escape
Best mad film (new category) : mad max.
How I miss jet Li for best "lie lie" category.

obixcel:
hm, Someone will hold a camcorder and will be filming everyone else from beginning to d ending. I've always not taken such movies seriously, and they are extremely low budget movies, certainly not my taste but good for you though.

Project almanac and one other film about an alien stuck on earth due to damages in its spaceship changed my mind about movies done with camcorders .