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hammer6F:
Delta will be divided north and south.

The North will vote PDP.

The Central APC/PDP

The South will be divided APC\PDP.

PDP wins, if rigging is not factored.

PDP have a very strong root in Delta, aside power hungry Urhobo, other groups might not be quick to dismiss PDP.

Politics is about interest.

Then again, Ibori is a very strong man that will divide Urhobo votes becos, he knows power leaves north in 4 years.

Plus, Okowa recieved him well, wen he came back from UK.

I'm quite surprised you referred to the Urhobos as power hungry, that aside the influence of Ibori in Delta Central is diminishing, even when he was the governor, Ogboru won him, If not for corruption I don't think Ibori has much influence on the Urhobos, save for his oghara people.

You should also consider election rigging which will be the order of the day, ever since, PDP has been rigging, but now APc has mastered the act of rigging, APC also has federal backup, should PDP win Delta, then it's with a very tiny margin.

hammer6F:
APC cannot win Delta.

The entire North will be voting PDP, the south will be 50/50 between Ijaw and Itsekiri.

Isoko will be 50/50 also.

Urhobo will be 60(APC)/40, thanks to the PDP strong man Ibori. cc Fratermathy.

Once u have tested power, you always want it, it dont matter that it will come to you in 4 years, you want it now.

So, i no go take am personal if Urhobo goes APC but APC cannot win Delta.

PDP will hardly get any meaningful vote in Delta Central, The reason Delta Central voted massively for PDP during the last election was because of GEJ , Secondly Most Top politicians irrespective of political party campaigned for GEJ, even Ogboru also campaigned for GEJ even thou he wasn't a Member of PDP, but the next election will be different, if APC plays their card well by giving Ogboru ticket, then The Urhobos will vote massively for them, don't also forget that the Urhobos are also in Delta South.

Itsekiri might vote for APC, you should consider ayeri factor and the fact that Uduagha is planning to decamp to APC,

IJAW population is Delta state is not much, so their vote doesn't really matter.

I don't know much about Delta North, can't say much about their voting pattern.

Like I said earlier, APC will get over 40% vote in Delta if they play their card well.

APC "might" clear delta Central , and might also get more than 45% vote in Delta state, I don't know about other states, I'm just saying this due to my current observations, was even surprise when a Bus driver was shouting APC apC, lol.. Omo-agege influence in the state is growing very large, and if they give Ogboru ticket, then APC might be able to pull a strong stunt in the state.

Let's see how it's goes, PDP so far hasn't proven to be worthy of our votes, not with the likes Of Saraki and Atiku championing their cause.

In all, these politicians are evil and wicked, those who wants to kill for them should go ahead.

Foolish youths.
Era'mo Fe'fe

blujoi:
Saraki this.....saraki that......meanwhile who is he actually? A criminal like the rest of the politicians we have been afflicted with in Nigeria. Was it not this same man who was involved in running Societe Generale bank and wrecked the customers? Is it not this same dude and his family that has held Kwara state ransom, is there any reasonable development in that state to warrant all this deification? Or has the quality of life of the average Kwara indigene improved since his family have been in charge of the affairs of that state. When will we the masses in this country have sense......when exactly? So what makes you think that if he gets to be a president, he will do any better than what he's been doing in kwara state. This dude is very ruthless, ambitious and a snake, pure and simple. We truly deserve the kind of leaders we have.....until we grow some sense. Thats how Buhari was touted as the next best thing after God,but what do we have today, economy in shambles, directionless government filled with visionless old men who don't know the meaning of leadership!!

I feel ashamed sharing the same country with these dummies, I weep reading some comments here, like yes, we deserve the type of leaders we have.

Celebrating thieves just to spite your opponent? , when are we going to know that these useless politicians do not care about you and me, We have millions of people suffering just because of the actions and inactions of these thieves, we have millions dying just because of the actions and inactions of these same useless politicians, yet it's still the same average Nigerians that have been oppressed by these evil people, are the ones worshipping and celebrating them.

Saraki might be smarter than these dummies, but he is not smarter than right thinking Nigerians who wants the best for their fellow citizens, Unfortunately they are the minority.

The dummies are everywhere.

#Spit#

elmisti:
how did he destroy kwara?

I don't need to prove any shit to you.. keep supporting these evil men, they have already secured the future of their children in foreign land, I hope you are not in Nigeria screaming Saraki, else sorry is your name.

#Spit#

wristbangle:
I don't have any atom of pity for these politicians rather the gullible fans.

Both APC & PDP fans got no shame. How many times will they know neither of these party rogues would thought of their evidence whether they win or not.

Honestly, I don't know what the masses want sef. Supporting two crooked parties that wrecked this nation. Smh

On a normal basis, People like saraki should be stoned. These politicians only care about themselves, after destroying Kwara he wants to package Nigeria in his pocket.

Thieves, they are worst than Satan the devil, worst is the average poor Nigerians killing themselves for these rogues, shouting APc and PDP on empty stomach, they don't realize that party means nothing to these evil set of people, provided their interests is being protected.

#Spit#

WORDWORLD:
THE SITUATION IN YOUR COUNTRY, NIGERIA. WOULDN'T HAVE
BECOME THIS BAD TO BEING WORST, THE KILLINGS OF
INNOCENT LIVES, THE SUFFERINGS OF THE POOR MASSES. IF
YOU ALL HAD STOOD FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE AND NOT BEING SENTIMENTALIST, RELIGIOUS BIAS BUT HAVE GENUINELY FELT THE AGONY OF OTHERS IN THEIR SINCERE PAIN AND SORROW.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN ALL OUT OBJECTION TO THE GANGSTERISM AND THE MORONIC RIVARLY BETWEEN GLORIFIED THUGS, RASCALS, APC, PDP.........ETC, IN THE NAME POLITICS. GOING FACE TO FACE WITH THESE ELITES, ALL NIGERIANS TO DEMAND THAT YOU WANT AN END TO ALL MALICIOUS DRAMAS...

Thanks for talking sense into that fellow, he/she keeps running around the forum praising some evil politicians, the fool don't know that they are all taking Nigerians for a ride, weather APC or PDP, they are all bunch of Thieves who only care about their selfish interest.

I cry anytime I see our youth celebrating these evil people who should be stoned to death, Sarki, Atiku, Obj, Tinubu, Lai Mohammed, Dino Malaye, Fayose, PMB, GEJ, Akpabio and all Politicians ruling this Country , shouldn't be celebrated, they should be shamed, they failed us.

Mystiquefia:
Oniovo, Okwakwa Hold Body Like Native Fowl Since, Men Kom Dey Heat Body With Irhe v'e Egaga.
I Been dey use different Moniker Since Sha,,, Buh Nor Too Stable.
Apart From You, Which Other Oniovo Dey Chop Morning Food For Here Sef??

Lol, take am easy en, see as your langua tight like virgin kpekus, I know like for confirm Okon make they represent for here, one Na mathy, the other one Na Sanchez (This one Na so so English e dey yarn, no be area e take transfigure), even the Amberon u quote self Na one of us.

Mystiquefia:
Mije Yeruvwe, Mavo??

Me'ro jawe.. where all of Una they hide put since.. I only know few Oniovo here

Mystiquefia:
Efewestern can you Imagine this *** claiming urhobo... he couldn't even spell it well. Do you know who David edjoor was and the role he played during the civil war?? don't even think of associating urhobos with your eastern.

Lol.. Only online do people claim to be from somewhere but fight for the interest of others, We have our problem facing us, he hasn't talked about it, he is busy fighting for others, people that hasn't for once fought for Any Urhobo interest. I don't care to know where he is from, I just try as much as possible to correct lies and falsehood when I see one, especially when it involves my people.

Oniovo me'ye ru vwe

tiredoflife:
Now to ur assumed bolded statement
How do u measure resistance
A few soldiers in the government house shooting at baifran soldiers means that mid west fell after a resistance

Now I can see u don't understand warfare
I will advice u
If u can go to London
Visit the imperial war museum along old Kent road
U need to go through war archives to understand resistance

If the natives or the people are not fighting or resisting an occupying force
It doesn't matter if the governor fought to his last breath
It means the area didn't fire a shot
It means the occupying force was welcomed

Go and read about the French resistance

People go dey talk while dey understand nothing or little about resistance or support to an occupying force

The mid-western region was a small region and they didn't have the military strength to successfully repel the invading troops, all they could do was to hide inside while the few soldiers who were left at the region were battling the keep the region safe, I don't get you, should the people come out openly to resist armed men?

tiredoflife:
Now what was the lie u wanted to point out
Didn't Midwest fall
Did ojukwu and major banjo not banter for three days on who should replace him
And was propaganda not the order of the day
Didn't banjo want a native to replace Ejoor
Dragging name of my tribe doesn't stop me from coming from the tribe
The federal govt already was telling the natives
That igbos were coming to dominate dem
Is that a lie
Winston Churchill said war is 10% bullet and 90% propaganda

Did ojukwu use propaganda to his favour

Normally I wouldn't have quoted you as I don't involve in endless tribal e-war, my attention was drawn to your statement about the civil war in the then mid-western region, You stated that The mid-western troops didn't fire a shot at the invading biafran army, which was a lie, in fact the mid-western troops fought till they were left with nothing before retreating.

So u think if a native was put in place as governor u think mid west will fall
Oga each has their source for different version of the war
Ejoor is still alive till date
My father was in the navy and fought the war
He was part of those that did the naval blockage
We are saying same thing but reporting from different angles

I don't know what you mean by native, because to my own understanding David Ejoor who was the governor was a native of the then Mid-western region.

Did most tribes not change their igboness
Till date are the seaports working
Focus on the topic which is the seaports and the monopoly of the south west
We are not here to pull out the name of my tribe nor snippets of all the told and untold stories of the war
Ambode cried out is the topic
I thought they usually blame our governors for the seaports being unused
And how their leaders have the magic wand to make all containers come through Lagos
Focus on the topic and not how I spell my tribe

Good, talk about what you know and leave topics you know nothing about, focus on seaports and leave Mid-western region or the civil war out of it. You can make a nice point without going to that direction.

Amberon11:
And you can't even spell the tribe you're claiming. "urohobo" indeed.

You should have focused on the topic by simply keeping it about seaports.

PS: you can't school me on something you don't know.

Next time reply with facts, most people here will believe what that man just stated, without verifying his claims, All his accounts about the mid-western region were wrong.

tiredoflife:
Oga don't go there
I am urohobo Urhobo
The mid west didn't fire a shot as Biafran soldiers took Benin
Don't let me school u

Focos on the topic

Is funny how you dish out wrong information about the civil war and how it affected the then mid-western region, what's even surprising is the fact that Amberon11 couldn't counter your post with fact, Indeed history needs to be brought back to our school system .

The Mid-western region fought the biafran troops for some hours , when they were overpowered the then Governor of the region who happens to be an Urhobo man took cover from the locals, bfore then Ojukwu asked his troops to bring the head of David Ejoor (The governor of mid-western region) just because he refused dancing to his tunes.

The next day after the attack, David Ejoor ran to Lagos to seek for assistance from the federal troops, below is an excerpt from an interview with David Ejoor

...
As I told you I do not know. It was just that morning that I heard firing in the State House where I was told that the Biafran Army was in the Mid-West. I could not believe that Banjo would be the person to kill me because he was the closest person to me in the army. What happened was that when they got to Ikpoba Hills in Benin, the person that was sent by Ojukwu to kill me was ordered to take me dead or alive to Enugu was different because Banjo did not know about this. So when they got to Ikpoba Hill, this officer from the Mid West, from Anioma told Banjo he should give him time to let him go and find out where I was in Benin and take me to Enugu dead or alive. The firing started about 7’o clock. I just managed to get the radio to tell Gowon that I was being attacked by the Biafran army. I just took the weapon of the operator and ran down to the gate to join the soldiers who were firing and we started firing together. But after sometime we ran out of ammunition. What do we do? I just said if they come in now, they are coming for me, to kill me. These soldiers who were defending me, why should I allow them to die? And then if I leave this place, they would be killed with my wife and children. Why should I allow any of these people to be killed? I said they had to kill me first so that other people would survive. I jumped down from where I was and walked towards where they were firing. I thought that was the end, I didn’t know what was happening and then I found a verandah in one of the houses not far from the State House. I decided to move my leg but I couldn’t move any part of my body. I looked up and saw somebody holding my leg and my hand. He was kneeling down when I was thinking about other things, I did not know that somebody was holding me. I asked him, ‘who are you?’ He said he was Chief Asemota. I thanked him and said I had to go now. He said, “no, you can’t go, they are everywhere.” When he got up and started dragging me in, I asked him, ‘have you not seen any of the Biafran soldiers here?’ He answered, ‘they were two in this verandah. It wasn’t long when they left that you came. If you had met them, they would have killed you.’ I told him, ‘my time has come. Those who sent me here want me dead. My time has come, let me go so that you or any of your family members will not die.’ He said no. I argued and argued but he did not agree. So I got up annoyed, to walk out. But before I could get to the door, he ran past me, locked the door and threw the key out through the window. What do I do now? I could not break the door like that. Then I persuaded him that he should go and look for an Urhobo person around the area who could take me away from Benin. I waited for him and he found somebody from Urhobo who said he was coming in the afternoon. Up till the night, we did not see him. So I said he was not interested. The following morning, around 7’o clock, I heard a woman shouting ,“there is war; you are going there. If they kill you now, and who will bury me?’ That was what he was saying in Urobho. I peeped through the window and I saw the woman running after the son, and returning into the compound. I recognized him as one of the people I grew up with...

Read more below

https://morningmail.com.ng/escaped-kaduna-nzeogwus-killer-squad-david-ejoor/

Take note of the bolded.

And it is spelt Urhobo not Urohobo, thank you.

OLORIPAPA:
I also read some were that same awolowo is the one who awarded the title "olu of Warri" to the itsekiri king some times in the 1950s.Even after the British refused to award the title prior before then because they know warrior is multi ethnical.Any truth to that?

Oniovo that's the fact, The Olu of warri title is a recent one, the king of itsekiri was known as Olu of Itsekiri before Awolowo changed it.

babyfaceafrica:
appreciate this a lot

1.I don't understand what you meant by the language can also be classified as urhobo language....is isoko a dialect of isoko or is urhobo a dialect of isoko...or they are two separate languages.....because isoko lantuage cannot be called urhobo language....I agree they ate both ediod Language

Urhobo is not a dialect of Isoko, refer to the above reply for better understanding.

2.sorry for the errors ,i will work on them.. I still have the recordings.....I will still tone mark the vowels though..this is just a manuscripr

3.how come even in the villages isoko language is dying?...It is really difficult getting a pure speaker.. is there a standard isoko language?.. because the people I meant say they speak so and so dialect...and they understand one another.

This issue of locals not speaking the Isoko dialects is not limited to them alone as most minorities are battling with the same problem, but in rural communities they communicate freely with the Isoko language, the Uzere dialect is the standard Isoko language.

babyfaceafrica:
happy weekend



so I have been gathering data for my project on isoko language.. I will beseech prominent sons and daughters of isoko language to please vet this data


tega kpe ewe.........tega killed goat
tega ho owho no kpe ewe..........it was tega that killed a goat
moses vho AME........moses fetched water
moses ho owho no vho ame.....it was moses that fetched water

bisi te egwa.......bisi cooked beans
bisi ho owho no te egwa....it was bisi that cooked beans
bisi de oho......bisi buy cloths
ohi ho oware no Christy de.......it is a cloth that Christy brought.


Tina ho Eva eye........Eva. eye itina he ho

Tina bath in the river...it is in the river Tina bath

simi de omoto Betty..... simi bought Betty's car


I buy shoe
...me de evhie

I am the one that buy shoe.... me ho owho na de envhie

we buy shoe
ma de evhie
we are the one that buy shoe
mai ho owho na de evhie


he loves God
o yohu oghene

we are the one that loves God
lie ho owho na yohu oghene

it has spoilt
o ra hanu


IIT is this thing that has spoilt
oware Nana ho oware no rahu


wale cook rice
wale tei isikapa

cooking is how wale cook rice
etei wale tei isikapa na


Matthew de isikapa me harry ze

Matthew bought the rice that harry sold

daddy ho owho na ze isikapa na Matthew de

it is daddy that sold the rice that Matthew bought


whe ho owho na oghene se?
are you the one that called God?

ono de ole?
have you eaten?


simbi fetched water
simbi vho Ami


it was. not simbi that fetched water
isimbo ho owho na vho ami na a


sleep
weze

don't sleep....

we weze e


my informant is from irrie...I don't know if her irrie dialect is different from the standard isoko language. she said all dialects are intelligible.. meaning the understand each other perfectly?... how true is that?.../

I also came across dialects like..ozoro,oleh,owho,emede,enwhe,ofagbe,elio,
oyede,aviara,uzere,umee,iyede-ami,olomoro,igbide,itiegbede........

I discovered that the enwhe dialect is quite similar. to the urhobo language.. my informant also confirmed that.

my question then is is urhobo language a dialect of isoko or isoko is a dialect of urhobo or both are separate languages.if they are separate llanguages how is it then possible for a dialect of isoko. to be very similar to urhobo language.

my guess is that the both come from one language (Edo)...but along the lines they differ..it is an hypothesis not a fact..I need a superior answer.

I also note that isoko language is on a decline in Delta except you go to the villages..in asaba and warri..na broken sure pass ooo...but you will still see urhobo in bits and Igbo.

The language is hard o..I can't lie...I am not yet through with data collections and finding and will be happy with any help rendered


I will like comments and suggestions

isoko wadoooo

You tried, but you should also learn spelling in Isoko as I can see some errors with the spellings, as for your last question, Isoko was formally part of the Urhobo nation until 1961 when Awolowo gave them a separate identity, The language remains a Key branch of Edoid languages and is also classified as an Urhobo language, the language shares close similarities with the Okpe and Uvwie dialect of Urhobo, I myself understands 90% of what you just submitted.

For example,

Ki"die hwiere - What's wrong / What's happening (General Urhobo)
Eme' wo / Eme' Soni - What's Wrong (Uvwie Dialect of urhobo)
Eme' wo - What's wrong (Isoko)

So the language is a combination of sub Urhobo dialects.

Cc: fratermathy, suggestions or contribution

sassysure:
Lots of people thought that north Korea is u developed thanks to US media.

Yet they have tourists every yr.

US media has killed us in this world.

When u tour Asia, u will forget US.

As per UK, let me reserve my comment abeg.

They are only releasing these pictures because North Korea decided to stop their production of Nuclear weapons, If you read at how the US media is currently downgrading Iran, you will think Iran is one underdeveloped and evil country, I was surprised at the level of Iran's scientific advancement, their taste for knowledge is second to none, yet the US and their allies keep saying rubbish about them.

ghostfacekillar:
efe I wana ask you a question.y won't u peeps join bini incase bini country comes true

I think you should read my comment again. Bini is a unifying factor in the Delta, so should Nigeria disintegrate we will be having a nation together with our Bini brothers.

But Nigeria ain't disintegrating soon.

Bini can't have a nation on their own without the Urhobo's, Isoko's, itsekiri's etc, during the Mid-western region we all lived peacefully, thou I have some reservations about the Bini's, but I doubt if they can subdue any ethnic group in this present time.

Secondly, Should Nigeria disintegrate (Which is not happening anytime soon) , then you should be looking at a bigger picture which is the desire of the minorities to have their own Nation.

... And yes the Bini's can survive on their own, they are very educated and also blessed with huge HUMAN and Natural resources, They, just like every other tribe in Nigeria needs a visionary leader, unfortunately we are all cursed with clueless thieves.

Azmodan:
... Google have refused to allow their ads here even to show you what i mean...

You are wrong, google stopped showing ads on Nairaland due to violation of their TOS which is caused by user generated content which seun or the MOD had no influence on (Except they will be monitoring every posts and comments to make sure it's doesn't violates Google's policies , which is not possible)

Also, you talked about the design, the site can be upgraded and a lot of features added. Before, this site doesn't support YouTube streaming now it does, seun choose to let things be like this.

With Aladja steel coming back to life, Refinery in Ekpan - Warri and the current struggle to revive the warri Seaport I think Warri is the next big city in Nigeria after Lagos.

#Warri
#Waddoooooooo

Myself2:
Which yeye Buhari govt??
That project was started by OBJ continued by GEJ and now the govt of Buhari is revisiting it

Yes, the project has been there since I was a child, but you must also give credit to the present government for reviving it, hate all you want, but this project will benefit not only my people but my state.

Aladja is definitely going to benefit from this project, Once again, Kudos to the buhari led Government.

obailala:
A railway connecting 2 steel cities is what you call dead?... Delta steel and ajaokuta steel both need this rail to return to life, and if both steel plants return to life , you really think Ajaokuta will be a dead city?... By the way I'd take it that your reference to Warri as a dead city was a 'slip of hand'.

Meanwhile, no words for the fellow below who just termed people brain dead for this; his words already speaks volumes of the status of his own brain.

The comment is sickening, referring to Warri, one of the major city In Nigeria as dead, lol

The rail way crosses my hometown in Ethiope East, Nice one from the Buhari led government.

Sanchez01:
He can. However, it is not advisable.

Very advisable, you don't need a dormiciliary account to receive funds via wire transfer, he should try first bank and Eco Bank, it will get to you in 3 working days.

wink2015:
ISOKO TOLO OPIA!

What about Major General Paul Ufuoma Omu (rtd )

I for like see DADDY SHOWKEY among the delegation.

Daddy Showkey na proper son of ISOKO LAND!

Although, Daddy Showkey most times dey fall in hand and he dey hide himself inside Yoruba language and dey behave like Yoruba man.

Daddy Showkey! Go back to Ozoro, Oleh, etc and learn Isoko language.

Not only him, Terry Apala is also an Isoko man, I think aside Delta, Lagos and Ogun are where a huge concentration of the Urhobo/Isoko's reside.

Some of Isoko Celebrities are Solid Star, Don Jazzy, Bovi etc, apart from that, they are also blessed with huge mineral resources, the people just like their Urhobo brothers are very lovely and accommodating .

Isoko wadoooo

hammer6F:
USELESS THIEF, U THINK THOSE AFRICAN COUNTRIES WILL ALLOW U MONOPOLISE THEIR CEMENT MARKET LIKE NIGERIA.

ONCE IBETO COMES ONLINE, WE ARE LOCKING U OFF IN THE EAST AND SS.

GO TO MOROCCO.

Oga celebrate success when you see one.. don't always hate when someone from your region is not dominating, the man has tried and he deserves some accolades.

Caseless:
And OBJ, IBB, Abdulsalam and Jonathan are walking freely.

Not only them, add tinubu, El ruffa, Lia Muhammad , etc and all Nigerian politicians to your list, they are all bunch of thieves, they deserved to be stoned to death and their body thrown in the forest.

Sinistami:
I know the Banni na Rexia nai bi her name.

you self sabi the level.. I troway salute for her.. I never see her breaklight since, where she shelle go