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ElRazur:
How nice and very tactical. You did not argue or counter the point but then proceed to be dismissive. Oh wait, this is nairaland.

As I said, it's a problem with hiphop in general not just Nigerian hiphop.
If you think those themes are limited to the Nigerian artistes then you know f[i]u[/i]ckall bout hiphop.

ElRazur:
Did you just say someone argued in a flawed manner, and yet the best you came out with is this? Right, allow me to state further that some of us know the different between producers sound. You just gotta have an ear for it. While some individual track may sound like others, over all, people are able to and can tell the difference between a Dre beat and a that of timba for example. In dre beat, you have plenty of Keyboards and Pianos, while that of timbo have many different parts that sometimes act as fillers, but overall works as "one" in the beat. That is just some of these characteristic signature that have made these producer their defined sound.

Hold, rewind . . . 'some of us know the differences between the way producers sound'?? That's your argument??

Dre's beats have keyboard sounds. . . wow, that's quite unique!!!
Timbaland has 'different parts' . . . this is your argument??

Wiki says all songs on Relapse were produced by Eminem except Beautiful, how does that sound different from any other Dre beat??
Well let me guess, 'people like you have got an ear for it' so you'll know . . . right??

No disrespect to your craft, but I don't care bout how many production softwares you've created . . . but your argument about American producers being unique is flawed.
As I said before, in modern hiphop, Kanye, Timbaland, Jay Electronica and a few others are the recognisable ones. Producers like No ID, Pharell, Just Blaze concentrate more on making good beats that are as diverse as possible.
Hostile Gospel and My Life (both Just Blaze) sound different just the same way Blaze and Wetin Dey (Jesse Jagz)

ElRazur:
Insular? Timbo insular? Right and I do not know about Hiphop right? Way to show your knowledge. This is a guy who is a super producer and have worked from Your pop album to your indie records and along side music considered as "white music". He paid his dues, but yeah you will have something to say. Before we lose the point. The point is that No producer in Nigeria have a defined sound. No?

As for Kanye, oh please. He's work with plenty of people before he become this known kanye.

You build an argument and the you tear it apart . . . I said Timberland and Kanye sound different from everyone else and you're arguing with me.

Producers in America try to be as diverse as possible, adjusting their beats to the artistes . . . same with the ones in Nigeria.
I think it's good, infact I think it's best for hiphop that producers are flexible.

Ibukun??

ElRazur:
Cuzo sound just about every other "american wanna be" rapper I have heard. Please tell me am wrong. His first track "Naija girl" or something was the better of the two. The second one is just another garbage - claiming to be street smart, talk about guns and his niggers and his haters and how much he rolls in money and run the streets! Give me a flipping break. I have been listening to hiphop since the time of AfricanBambata. . . Please tell me something else.

If you think this is a problem with just Nigerian hiphop then f[i]u[/i]ck the AfricaBambata/Grandmaster Flash ish . . . you know nothing about hiphop. No offence intended.

ElRazur:
Naija hiphop scene have the right idea, but just like our nollywood, poorly executed. Most of the sound used on most naija track are straight up stock sound from programs like Fruity loops etc. Tell me which producer in naija have a defined sound? You cant miss a Dr Dre Beat, you will know a Timbaland beat or something by produced by Kanye wont go unrecognised. I listen to naija hiphop and those supposedly produced in ghana with big bucks are nothing but pop sound.

I don't know about you but I know the difference between Don Jazzy and Timbaland.
Cry doesn't sound like Swizz Beats to me. . .

You used Timbaland and Kanye, aren't they the most insular producers in America??
Dre beats are becoming less and less identifiable everyday, how identifiable are Pharell's beats these days??
Would you be able to tell from listening that Diddy produced Roc Boys??

DBR:
Phwwweeeeeeew!
tnx guyzz!
but pls SEUN, DEBOSKY the Mods.
What really classified ma verses as SPAM.
Sure it cudnt be the lenght cos sm1's got longer linez.
Really wanna kno, i like to operate within the confines of rules.

Eldee[i]gy[/i]
i guess if U post the part 2 it will stay, or can i do that by meself now??
Tnx y'all. DBR is baaaack!!
oNe

It's arbitrary . . . that's the whole point, to catch the spammers.
It usually stops long posts, posts with links to other sites, catchphrases like 'make money fast', and many other things like that.
Once a post is spam, it's spam till Seun unblocks it. . . no matter how many times you post.
You just risk getting banned.

abdurrazaq:
This is definitely a good move. Something different from This Vs That. This is enticing, em, em  Me I no be regular poster for this section, let me just say I'm not a netcee but, can I drop a verse for Lagos?
Good job you're doing especially those who've drop verses already

Come on . . . drop sumn man.
It's cool.

Interesting topic, but extremely weak points to support it.
The points you listed don't hold any water.

1. Our albums sell for a dollar, so what?? [/b]Isn't that the value compared to the cost of living in Nigeria?? A bottle of coke sells for £1 in the UK, but sells for around N70 in Nigeria. We can't expect Nigerians to buy music at prices that are skyhigh compared to other commodities. . . that point is flawed.

The cd jumps?? I still have CDs I bought five years ago that work easily. Besides if you're really bothered, save your music on your laptop or buy music online.
Technology is your friend.

2. [b]Do we actually need these big record labels?? Haven't you seen what they did to music in America?? With artiste like Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus selling millions while the Jill Scotts and Melanie Fionas sell fuckall??
Why should we let these guys monopolise the industry when we can easily make our industry the survival of the most talented. . . in Nigeria, Modenine and M.I are releasing an album and we all know they're both highly anticipated. American music scholars will beg for a commercial battle between Mos Def and Eminem.

3. I heard MTV play Forever Young and Drake's Forever twice every fifteen minutes for a whole day, I still went out and copped Blueprint 3 and So Far Gone . . . t[b]he best songs are the album songs[/b], you'll know that if you actually like hiphop.

4. The live shows are bad, yes, but does that take anything off Modenine'stalent?? You blame Nigerian hiphop for the problem of the organizers.
We saw what Naeto C and M.I did in Nairobi at the MAMAs when they had good organizers.

THE AMAKA:
[color=#ff00cc]yes because no one could give me any real reason why he deserved it.
so eh hem? [/color]

Well, call me old fashioned but I think throwing tantrums because you want attention/answers is quite childish and borderline daft.

THE AMAKA:
[color=#ff00cc]^^^
thanks!! never knew he did anything other than exploit kokoletes.
at least someone finally answered my question, instead of yelling and trying to argue. shior.[/color]

You were the one yelling and consequentially making a fool of yourself in the first place.

@topic
I'm happy for D'banj. . . and I'm happy that an Igbo town can at least appreciate the fact that we are still one nation.
The differences between us are small compared to what we can achieve together.
D'banj, while entertaining people with his music has helped in creating a positive opinion of Nigerians to the rest of the world.

And who says success in music shouldn't be recognised??
Go see how many chieftancy titles Barrister's got on his shelf.

Even in the UK, the legendary singer is called Sir Elton John for a reason.

[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=399478.msg5548836#msg5548836 date=1266622754]Okay, what has this got to do with the ROMANCE BOARD SECTION? [/quote]Well . . . I don't know what you're driving at but I think when one half of a couple tries to go celibate, it sounds like sumn for the Romance Section.
If you can't relate with that, there's about a thousand other topics to choose from.

Bed Rock - Young Money ft Lloyd

I hate to see her go, but I love to watch her leave

@Debosky
Aiite then . . . thanks anyways

@DBR
Log in and post man . . . I guess I'll just post a link to you verse on the other page.
I think it's the illest verse here so far.

@debosky
I see you've unblocked the verse, thanks man
Do you reckon it will get blocked if I post it again??

RBD:
@eldee[i]gy[/i]
@Lalaboi[i]zzle[/i]

u r both here havin fun when smone who tot u guyz hav got his back is
waitin and countin on both of u to help unban him

and no word or so, even tho he sent u personal messages??
U think he gon find that cool?
i think not
oNe

Come on man . . . I didn't get ur personal messages.
I didn't even know you were banned.

I'll try to get across to Muki and Seun, they seem to be on a different planet right now.

mykali:
lol . . .i was a kid back then.
its been more than 15years man. . . really cant tell.

hey . . .but i think i remember Boundary
i used to spell it ''Bandry''

I had my family there so we used to go there for holidays, this was about 15-17 years ago.
They lived on Market Street, I used to go to 'lesson' on your street

I used to call it Bandry too . . .

I should write a verse . . . I have sooo many 'roots'

@Slimshay
The rules are not as clear as you think.

Of course Blatter will come out to support it. . . bt at the end, they still go into their meetings and discuss these things.
How many times has he come out to support a referee on the offside rule decision only to change it the next week.
That's how football works.

@Eastbay
That's the thing . . . I'd rather get a red card than a goal too.
But did FIFA's intention include forcing someone to choose??

At the end of the day . . . the problem with Fabianski is in-house, the refree should still do what was right at the end of the day.

@mykali
Long shot, but do you know Counsellor??
Tolu Hospital?? Boundary?? and the Ilaje guys??

ayettymama:
lil kim isnt trashy
the woman has flow
pls no other female rapper is up to her level, say what you want

yes nikki even says so herself! shes a lil kim wanna bee that needs to siddon!
pls the woman is an ultimate swagga jakka with no originalty whatsoever

They don't even sound similar to begin with.

slimshay:
Really guys give these thing a rest. And by guys i mean HNIC V3 AllBoyx, Eldee, the rest talking hookum i mean you scummies, back to hell.

Look forward, we have another important 3 points to pick at the Emirates. How long is Diaby out anyways? I'm loving the midfield of him and Song alonside Cesc.

I don't have a problem with Porto, the problem is, this might start a precedent.
The sooner FIFA clarified the rules on in-box freekicks, the better.

Issues like 'should a keeper hold on to the ball after the referee has asked for it' and 'should a defender impede the taking of the freekick while his teammates are coming' will always remain questionable.

This is for the love of the game, not for Arsenal.

mykali:
ofoka and eldee . . .settle your scores in a battle or do something about it

Ofoka is slow . . . that's a proven truth.

But at the end of the day, he's just having fun . . . I feel the guy man, he's comic relief.

lalaboi:
Let em battle

Battle!!, . .battle!!. . . .Battle!!Battle!!, . .battle!!. . . .Battle!!Battle!!, . .battle!!. . . .Battle!!Battle!!, . .battle!!. . . .Battle!!

Nah, I've got too many people on my list . . . I've got lines for Sauron, Streetwise, Wordsmith and Mailmalc

Eastbay:
The ref wouldn't have been a factor if the 9 other players weren't strolling back instead hurrying to defend a free-kick in their 18 yard box.
Let's not even discuss Campbell/Fabianski,because their respective roles in this fiasco have been overstated.
Blame your players first before the ref.The ref is being made a scapegoat for your team's failings at the back.
If your backline were alert to their duties,the ref wouldn't be a celebrity thanks to Gunner fans.

As I said, the law protects both the weak and the strong.
The law doesn't care about how weak our backline is. . . it's simple. . . it's not FIFA's job to tell rearguards how to act, it's their job to tell the referee to do his job.
If he cannot spot a hand-volley, spot a clear penalty or interprete the law of the game properly, he should get a 9-5 job.

Tell me, what should Fabianski or Campbell have done to prevent that??
If Fabianski didn't give the ball to the referee, wouldn't that be a yellow card??
What if Campbell took the ball off the ground or tried to hold play till the Arsenal players came back, what would that be??

[quote author=H.J link=topic=398532.msg5543296#msg5543296 date=1266569789]eldee is u hating on me or u gat a problem wiv me cuz ma hunches tell me dat and u some many situations point towards dat direction but i aint bringin dat up 4 now, . . holla asap[/quote]Hating on you?? You're one of the coolest guys I know on NL.
Why would I hate on you??

If it's an argument . . . just forget errfin, I just argue to win, even when it gets dirty.
But, seriously . . . I rate you.

FL Gators:
Ok, but can you guys tell tosinadeda not to abuse me again.
He called me a bit ch, that hurts

Technically, he called you a 'bit' fullstop 'ch'

chiogo:
^

NA WA OO!!! Even I can't even read anymore, I'm not even done reading for school.

I'll kill you if you waste that scholarship

MRbrownJAY:
PS: remember that "arguing like a child online trying to force YOUR views onto others is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win you still retarded"

That's where you get it wrong, I'm not trying to force my views on you, I'm just showing your estimated IQ to anyone that cares to read.
I don't care what you think, I care for the people that come here and assume that your stupidity might be representative of the thinking capacity of people around here.

MRbrownJAY:
let me understand what you are saying. . . . . . . . . . .  so because you were "jokingly disagreeing" with him, you decided to write some garbage that is not even remotely close to the truth?! woah!!!!!!!!

That my friend is humour . . . combined with the smileys was aimed at getting people to laugh.
You not just a retard, you're a boring retard at that, your life sucks!!!
I'm sure Chiogo did

[quote author= MRbrownJAY link=topic=397645.msg5541660#msg5541660 date=1266533017]i have brought my point to the table about this WATW remake. i will stand by it whatever anyone says, and will still believe that it shouldnt have been used for Haiti. thats my personal opinion a[b]nd you can take it as you like (wont change my opinion one bit).[/b]

i can see that i have touched a sore spot within you because the only thing that comes out of your posts are insults. son, i will bow out of this discussion as i can see that you want to turn it into an ARGUMENT while it is simply people putting their views on the table in an adult manner. is it not what online forums are for?!

PS: remember that "arguing like a child online trying to force YOUR views onto others is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win you still retarded"

TA TA![/quote]That's the sign of an unrepentant retard.
I see reason in what Jay-Z and TheAmaka said, because they gave a valid reason, it's of sentimental value to them. . . that's logical.

But your point is baseless and silly from whatever angle you try to view it.

I can't believe the basis of your argument is that Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones are doing the remake because 'they don't want a mass exodus of Haitians to their country' . . . how daft!!!*

I would be bold and say that since Haiti is so close to the US, the fear of an exodus to their shore is very frightening to say the least. nobody would want 2/3million Haitians debarking on their beaches, would they? not in recession times like these!

Now the point of not wanting a remake because it's a classic . . . quite understandable, it's only second to Thriller.
But your point?? FLAWED and extremely daft.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=400313.msg5541137#msg5541137 date=1266527323]Don't despair.
Go and get yourself some sorta aromatherapy or audiotherapy.
I recommend Bis' Metalonin Magik. [/quote]Hehehe . . . that won't work here

I'll try Kanye's Late Registration

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=400313.msg5540978#msg5540978 date=1266525620]Eldee. . . . . .come on, don't blame the ref for Arsenal's ineptitude.
Arsenal were piss-poor last night.[/quote]Who do I blame for the penalty he didn't give seconds before that play??
Who do I blame for taking the ball off the goalkeeper??
Who do I blame for blocking Campbell??

Once the referee took the ball off Fabianski . . . the whole thing changed.

@DBR
I'm trying all I can to get your post opened, I've IMed them four times each.
The last time I raised the issue of giving moderators the power to unblock posts, Seun made it look like I stole his meat.

Now see what this is causing.

@da-whizkid
How did you manage to script that in pidgin??
WOW!!! That's was cool . . . you ND boys want to takeover NL

MRbrownJAY:
are you actually saying that through "humour" you were agreeing with Ignatio's post (bringing some BS excuses)?! LOL!!!!!!

JZ just dont want a CLASSIC such as WATW being touch, thats the reason why he didnt join this bunch. fair and square!

Through this humour that's too difficult for a simpleton like you to grasp, I was jokingly disagreeing with him.
I do know what Jay-Z thinks, I just don't agree with his point of view.

Keep jerking off because you discovered how to locate a Youtube video, now do the same and search for a psychiatric hospital that can cure your idiocy.

Eastbay:
If Arsenal's defending wasn't so shambolic on the free-kick,the ref guilty or not,wouldn't have been the object of this debate.
How everybody kept strolling back after a crisis situation had erupted (an in-direct kick in your 18-yard box) is another question to be asked,apart from frying Fabianski.
I thought the major priority woulda been to avoid the kick from being taken quickly.
Ref may have contributed,but it started with grade-A naivety on the Gunners part.The Porto player were never going to wait for Arsenal to forma a wall.Especially when not too many of them appeared to be in a hurry to defend the kick.

No one cares if it's East Humberside pup team or FIFA 11, you cannot do that.
It's not about our defence here, let the referee do his job properly.

MRbrownJAY:
DAMN!!!!! people are still going at it in this thread as i can see:
here is for "ELDEE who knows best" LOL!!!!!!

Stop being a f[i]u[/i]cking retard . . . the inability to understand humour has been put forward by psychologists as a possible test for dementia.
When I say sumn like that with smileys, it should tell you sumn, but no, you're daft beyond belief.

New thread!!!

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-400313.0.html

I've always wanted to start one of these threads just to clear the 'Wenger Knows' thing we have to see everytime.

Anyways, we're starting this thread on a kinda bad note . . . but this is a new thread, new beginning.
Third in the League, UCL qualifying stages with an away goal . . . we can do this.

We all need to still throw all hands on deck.

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