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Krayola2:
What u guys are doin is imposing ur tastes on the definitions of the terms. . . it's biased analysis aimed at winnin a debate

You came out to say TI and Dr Dre where not MCs
If I were doing this just to win a debate, I'd have capitalised on that.

@Sauron
You'll have to agree with me that the Eminems and Jay-Zs of today have been helped by the works f the NWAs of the past
Besides, the influence of technology on hiphop has increased since the '80s . . .Dre used to record hiphop songs on tape in his basement
The digital mastering of that era only came from the echoes from the walls . . . compare that to Jay-Z's Black Album that had over 20 producers

We all know that good beats inspire the best works. . .

Krayola2:
@ eldee and Sauron.

When i say rock a crowd i don't mean performing ur songs and getting a response from the crowd. I mean pickin up a mic, spittin , with or without a beat, just saying whateva,  from yess yess yall to more complex shit, and keepin a crowd of hip hop heads entertained.

Stop backing down now . . . the word 'emcee' comes from 'Master of Ceremony'
Yeah . . . you can entertain some crowds with 'When I say Mode, you say Nine' and then go monotonous. . . but that'll only work for your own fans.
But then you'll have to entertain other crowds too . . . that's when the problem starts
Nowadays, people are musically inclined . . . they'll wait to see how good you delivery is . . . what do you do with spaces inbetween beats?? They'll want to listen to your rhyme scheme and arrangement of multies . . . if you give them crap delivery, they get bored

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=189393.msg4319793#msg4319793 date=1249736312]Don't contradict yourself. . . . . .Being a good MC means makes you a professor of rap while the ordinary rappers are University students.
The MC looks for other things to make his lyrics tight. . . . .This is where the use of multis, wordplay and metaphors come in.
In the 80s. . . . . .Most rhyme patterns are simplistic and they go like this:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXCrack
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXTrack
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXRack.

But thanks to the MCs like Eminem/Canibus who sat down and took rap lyrics to another level(complexity) with multi-syllabic and inner rhymes/end rhymes.[/quote]At least sumone's bold enough to admit this

Rap's golden era is not the 80s it's the mid and late 90s . . . that's when wordplay, multies and lyrical artistry came into rap
The only thing the rappers from the 80s had over the 90s was the experience of growng up in the urban inner-cities in the 70s
They had more stories and had parents that fully experienced the racially segregated America . . . so they were angrier


I don't know if they gays or what
Search a nigga down and grabbin his nuts
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none
But don't let it be a black and a white one
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin out for the white cop

NWA - F*ck The Police

Rhymstein:
@eldee
Cos rappers rhyme,doesnt make em poets.Pacs poetry was bad.The only Nigerian rap tracks v hrd,that came close to poetry was contradiction n crowd mentality.Check luda's theatre of d minds intro!That was poetry n lupe's the cool,coolest, MI hardly tells imaginative stories.I dig rugged's flesh to flesh to death
MI came to benin,was told to freestyl,he did d endin of safe,on STV top ten,he spat like 6bars.Didnt last long on mad skills, He could be vulnerable.In Benin ere,most hood guys!My street.Lots of friends hood.Talk mode.Some dnt get to vote.I dnt evn vote self.Mode is more popular ere.

i swear this argument no go finish.Make we rest.

Do you even know what poetry is??
So if you can't feestyle . . . you're not a poet??

What's poetry?? You think every poem has to be narrative cos you read Abiku in high school??
Maybe you should know that hiphop and the spoken word are urban forms of poetry.
Rappers use poetic devices like metaphors and similes . . . it's even arranged in lines and verses.
Do you still need evidence to support the fact that M.I's a musically-gifted poet??

Krayola2:
An MC is someone than can just pick up a mic and rock a crowd. In hip hop that refers to people like krs, redman, biggie, canibus, even kanye(though a lil soft, i've seen him do it well on several occasions), eminem, Nas. . MI and Mode 9 are both MCs IMO (by naija standards). Its not about the depth or style of ur lyrics, but how well u can get the crowd to respond to u.

A rapper is someone that just makes records, but can't rock a crowd of hip hop heads without getting booed. e.g. Mase, Puffy, TI, 50 cent, Souljah boy, Yung Jock, Scarface (one of my fav of all time), Dr Dre.

In other words, an MC is a thorough-bred (spent time battling and all that stuff, takes the shit serious). A rapper is a talented (sometimes not) lover of rap music that isn't necessarily soaked in the culture, but pursues a career in rap.

Every rapper that we know is an emcee . . . let's cut the whole B.S
The only reason we get to know them is because they've gone on tours in different raves . . . sometimes across the Atlantic
The difference between a good emcee and a crap one is the diversity of crowds they appeal to . . .

Jay-Z rocked Glastonbury Festival, the home of rock . . . that's like Elton John rocking the Hot 97 Summer Jam andthen to the Inauguration
Kanye West murked Europe's biggest rock Festival . . . Nas has torn apart audiences from Ballrooms to Muson Centre

Now is Canibus an emcee?? Definitely . . . he will rock a room full of 1000 Saurons
Modenine will rock a crowd of 200 Javaloves.
But is he a good emcee?? Nah man.

Being a good MC does not necessarily make u a better rapper than someone who isn't. It just means u can rock a crowd (u might make shitty songs e.g. Canibus)

My 2 cents

It doesn't make you a better rapper . . . but it does make you a better hiphop artiste
It may suprise you to know that emceeing existed before rap . . .

And thing is . . . you can't be the claim to be the best rapper if you're not one of the best emcees around

lalaboi:
na wa oh. . .see what eldee's little post has caused lol. . .

I know . . . it's almost like I bring trouble wiv me anywhere I post nowadays

lalaboi:
@eldee. . . .Iceberslim later on mentioned in that verse that "These are not subliminals to any individuals". . . so i dont think he's calling out M.I. . .

I dont even think M.I will last in a battle. . . .he's appealing to almost everyone now, he wouldnt wanna spoil that! abi?

I've seen one or two old M.I battles . . . believe me, no nigerian rapper wants to battle him
And with the crowd appeal, he'll end up ending Iceberg's career.

And how can you say you ain't throwing sublimnals when you're calling out the person??
'Am I better than M.I??' . . .No you not!!! End of!!!

rapjunkie:
@sauron

ur distinction between a rapper and emcee is suspect. . . . .

are u saying MI is an emcee and Mode is a rapper?

and by your own defintion . . . . how can kanye west be a rapper?

Don't go with Sauron, he's biased against Kanye, Nas and Jay-Z

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=189393.msg4317859#msg4317859 date=1249683613]In his era, he was untouchable. . . . .He is one of the best MCs to have ever grabbed the MIC.

Modestans can be aggressive and annoying TBH. . . . .

Thatz the song i was trying to remember. . . . . .Cheese n Rice, i saw the song on HiTV.
Without any shadow of doubt, that is the best rap song performed by a Nigerian.
It was DOPE!!!![/quote]You think Area's cool?? Try Overkilling (Remix)
The funniest part of the whole song was the way he took a swipe at Chelsea

http://www.notjustok.com/2009/07/25/djinee-give-it-to-me-overkillin-remix-ft-m-i-ice-prince-jesse-jagz/

MI + Jesse Jags + Ice Prince = Three way battle

Rhymstein:
@eldee
assumption is mother of all mess ups.Go market if u see talibs album 4 market tomorrow tell me.I didnt remember using swear words on u.Sauron replied lyk a gent.

Where I'm from, the phrase 'you suck' doesn't come across as respectful . . .
Sauron replied like a gent because he didn't find your post offensive, I did . . . c'est fini

Rhymstein:
U feel u know rap enuff to start talkin who is best.U knw nothin.U v no sufficient knowledge of rap to decide who is best neither am i?Only d owners are.Even a vote doesnt decide 4 me,cos majority cld be wrong.

I never said anything about being a hiphop head, i only stated my opinion
You then accused me of imposing my views . . . It's eL's post for heaven's sake, no one's forcing you to accept it.

For heaven's sake, it's different strokes for different folks . . .
I think M.I's is Nigeria's best emcee, an opinion shared with more than half the Nigerian hiphop audience

Rhymstein:
MI aint a gud story teller,he aint so brilliant wit word play,metaphors,use of poetry.If he lacks this wot makes him best.

How can you say M.I lacks brillant wordplay?? If M.I ain't poetry then who is??

Rhymstein:
the best track on talk abt it is crowd mentality,noone evn talks abt that track, Tell me if teaser na rap?If u feel he is ur best.Fine,u v no right to decide for others.Different strokes for different folks.Cos he is nt my best.I knw a bost of girls that feel he aint!And wot does me buyin kweli album yesterday relate wit whose best.

You know what . . . I'm done here

@Sauron
It's just annoying when some Modestans start acting like other people don't have the right to speech
I heard this song with Djinee . . . I heard M.I seducing heavy bars with this sumblime delivery
And funy enough, he's got a good voice . . . that's music made in heaven

Rhymstein:
@eldee
dont impose ur views on others.MI aint naija's best.He is ur best.Its all clear lil wayne n kanye are ur best in da world.Jst one album!You guyz sayin this suck

Stop being a plonker . . . can't you see how stupid you sound already??
I shouldn't impose my views . . . but nah, u've got the right to say he's not the best??

@Sauron
There's nothing more dangerous to this world than an ignorant man with too little information.
How do you start to explain content and context to someone that just stumbled across his first Talib Kweli album yesterday??

lalaboi:
How da hell dey even doubt me,
i'm tired of the same old questions they ask about me
M.I? better than M.I? i dont know
M.I? matter of fact you should ask M.I
This aint star wars no return of the jeddi
but there's a few things y'all can learn on the M.I (c)
but y'all dont wanna play with me
cos thats a M.I (S.T.A.K.E)

Mr International - Iceberg slim . . .

I too gbadun this track!!

Is it me or did sumone just challenge Nigeria's best rapper??
Like does he seriously know he's talking to Naija's rap messiah??

I think Mailmalc won this one . . . why?? He was the only one battling.

Ibime's lines look like sumn from Def Poetry Jam . . .
Creative metaphors and wordplays don't always make good punchlines.

Straight-up is what Mailmalc was

punchlines hittin ur face/ nw watch ur Nose decide .  .  /
ur fate wit no disguise then i'll pro'lly get jailed for Homicide/
i glo in style/ chillin to watch-this ho' rock-the pole wit Pride/

Ibime stil wouldn't cum thru even if given a 30mins 'head' start/

This asshole buildin castles wit glass stones/ watch me shatter his last hopes/

Ibime is the most creative netcee we've had on NL in a long while
But he prolly forgot that this was a battle not the Freestyle Lounge

Im counting cash/ on forex indices where my coins chart/
brand you with a swastika. . . but still you got no Deutsche Marks!/

My dogs bite ankles/ like buckles on tight sandals/
You can’t win fair and square. . . so you better try angles!/(triangles)

You could bet-ya-computer/ that Ill lecture-this-loser/
and Ill make you owe PC. . . like June 12 election-disputers!/

I climb fences/ and steal one of your five senses/
so you couldn’t scope a chick. . . not even with fine lenses/


My speech so sick/ but I keep it on a d-lo tip/
Pride comes before a fall. . . and Ill make ya ego trip!/

Analogue television/ couldn’t describe his position/
cos when this fool smokes weed. . . he’s the high definition!/

All these lines were ill and cleverly worded but at the end of the day, it's a battle not a poetry slam
Punchlines come first . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=303740.msg4303457#msg4303457 date=1249481756]Cheese n Rice. . . . . .My crystal ball just told me now that Bayern Munich won't play in the UCL final until the main culprit(Osama) of the 9/11 attack gets caught.[/quote]

Add peace in the Middle East to that

MrCrackles:
Yeah men. . . .Wolfsburg!
If i was a full time Pro footballer, i will never play in the Bundesliga. . . . .NEVER!
Joke league!

Come on . . . how can you step down from trials at Derby to Hamburg's first team??
I'll be dissapointed

dayokanu:
You are forgetting what it means for Bayern to win the CL but NO one in History has ever seen an Assanal player do this before.

In 100 years No assanal player has ever done this

edoyad,
EPL clubs are Magas didnt the same Benitez buy over 30 players in 4 seasons?

The fifth best EPL team won the CHAMPIONS' league . . . Arsenal was fourth in England when they were the second best in Europe
Can Wolfsburg win the UCL??

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=303740.msg4303375#msg4303375 date=1249480964]Grafite won the German Footballer Of The Year with that cheap flick.
Something Rory Delap and Vaz Te do every fortnight in the EPL.
Bayern Munich are a spent force. . . . . . .They are the most useless team in Europe as we speak.

The last time Bayern Munich played in the UCL final . . . . .The Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre in NY were still standing. [/quote]

MrCrackles:
Talkless of another German team. . .
Bayern aint even heavyweights in thier own league, no more. . . .
WTF, dat league is Hellenic Premier League standard!

Hehehe . . . by other German teams you mean Wolfsburg??
Like, the same ones that just signed Martins from the Coca-Cola Championship??

And I heard they only bought him to punish Grafite for assaulting Bayern's defenders with that backflick goal

I can picture Wolfsburg coach telling Graphite . . . 'next time you try that rubbish, you'll end up 'injured' for the rest of the season'

dayokanu:
Just like Santa cruz who manages 5 goals per season became a 20+ striker in the EPL

Torres who does 15 became 20+

even Adebayor who warms the bench in Monaco behind Nonda, Morientes, Saviola became one of the best strikers in the EPL.

That league must suck real hard Torres even confirmed that he has never seen a place where Defenders and Keepers are as stupid as in the EPL

The last time a German team in a UCL Final, Rooney was 14 . . . that's high school
Who cares if Man Utd wins the league 100 times??
At the end of the day, EPL's fourth placed team reaches the final . . . Liverpool was the fifth placed team in England when they won the UCL!!!

I've even forgotten how it feels to see Bayern play in a UCL Final

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=303566.msg4296370#msg4296370 date=1249385764]When you hit a woman there's something about it that just shuts a woman up half the time.Did Carmen deny Jigga? Did Vivica deny Fiddy? she might say other things about you but chances are she would not deny it who-ha that ish actually went down[/quote]Come on . . . people deny these things all the time
People react differently to things, you can't use Hov and Curly to predict what happened wiv Em.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=303566.msg4297307#msg4297307 date=1249394673]Someone had to put the recluse in his place!! Besides i think Aguilera did reply EM not sure but i would check ma vault
Lets just say Mariah has a short fuse besides did EM claim he shagged Aguilera? Didn't M.J have kids in his crib? didn't he get his hair burnt too??
Mariah is obviously replying because EM claimed he shagged her.Nothing more[/quote]Tupac claimed he shagged Faith Evans . . . 50Cent claimed he shagged Lil Kim
What's the difference between the two of em?? Faith Evans didn't do a diss track.

That's the difference between putting an ignorant rapper in his place and starting a mudslinging contest

By the way, why am I the only one that believes that there's a chance this actually happened??
Or is there sumn I should know of?? Like say 'Mariah Carey wears a purity band'??

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=303566.msg4296925#msg4296925 date=1249390998]Who was ever scared of EM? That's the question its not like he is some gangsta that would whoop Mariah's ass if he saw her.EM really screwed up and i like Mariah's reply the fact that she even had the gonads to reply him says a lot she is not Britney or Christina that can be bullied and tossed around EM does not realize that she is half-black and has some ghetto in her[/quote]So Christina Aguilera ignoring Eminem makes her a weakling??
Or maybe Michael Jackson shoulda replied Just Lose It??

Eminem is a clown . . . no one took this thing serious till MC did Obsessed.
She's bigger than Em, a press statement woulda done this easily . . . but nah, she had to do a video
C'mon, it's simple . . . she needed a Number One, Em gave her one

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=303566.msg4296954#msg4296954 date=1249391290]Eminem will never walk away from a beef. . . . . .I have known that since the turn of the millennium. . . .
Mariah miscued taking Eminem in a battle of insults. . . . .A rapper who has dissed his own mother and ex-wife.
The same geezer took the piss on the gay community, dissed American parents plus the most misogynistic rap verse ever on "Kim".
Abeg. . . . . . . .Only a consummate idiot will take Eminem on. . . . Mariah shoulda learnt with Ja Rule's career.

Are u aware Nick Cannon denied "Obsessed" was meant for Eminem?[/quote]Nick Carey is a pussyhole . . . James Blunt's got more street cred than him
Why didn't he release his own Em diss track??

bgees:
eldee,

rappers have dissed women , yes . but with a line or two. not like eminem who dissed mariah with a whole track. this is not normal.

Simple concept . . . crime and punishment.

Have you seen The Game's Melissa Ford diss?? And 50's Lil Kim Freestyle??
And to think these ones are unprovoked.

She denied Eminem on flipping Larry King Live!!! That's social homicide.
You might not take that serious . . . but he did, and he released a whole diss track for her, what else do you expct from Eminem??

And he just won a mental battle by getting her husband to reply . . . and then she did, not in a TV interview not a newspaper column, she did a flipping diss song.
She actually tried to battle hiphop's most famous bully. . . as I said I'm waiting for Oprah's Bleep 50Cent

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=303566.msg4296831#msg4296831 date=1249390033]What does it matter? Whether u dissed a woman with a line or two or do a whole 100 bars, dissing is dissing. . . .
Mariah did a whole song with a chorus on Eminem. . . . .She even made a video(She took it 12 yards further than Christina Aguilera).
What do u expect Eminem to do? Ignore the beef so y'all haters can say he got murked?
Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeaze, this hypocrisy should stop.[/quote]She's an attention seeking slut . . . trying to use beef to sell records
Is it not high time she left the stage for the Beyonces and Keri Hilsons??

Bamsyle:
Now that's a loaded statement . . . and I can feel you . . . Eminem even got disqualified ab initio - which serious rapper would take on a diva . . . in a Rap Battle?? . . .  

And I disagree with those saying Mariah shouldn't have responded . . . her response further plummeted whatever was left of Em's credibility . . . it's a walkover thingy . . . imagine Tyson in the boxing ring . . . and after a couple of minutes, his opponent shows up . . . and happens to be Maria Sharapova . . .  

I'm not a Stan, I'm not even a fan . . . and I've done a crap job trying to hide that fact.

But come on . . . rappers diss women all the time, stop acting like it's some new thing
50 Cent had beef tracks for Lil Kim and Foxy Brown, The Game went all out against Amber Rose/Melissa Ford, don't let's go to Jay-Z
We all know Eminem is a person . . . but nah, I'm not going to allow double standards affect the way I see things

Is Eminem an attention-seeking plonker?? Definitely. . . but what does Mariah Carey's reply tell us??
She emasculated him, he dissed her . . . so?? I don't care if he's a frustrated sod, but he did what he's been doing since his first album.
She's 101 times more influential than Eminem in pop culture, she has a reputation to protect . . . replying just equates her with Lil Kim and Foxy Brown

What next?? We'll see Sarah Palin doing a 'Bleep Marshal Matters' LP??
It's a no-brainer, let relapsed psychos lie.

What's wrong with wanting to be the next King of Pop??
Is that what every artiste is aiming for??

Abeg . . . he's the biggest popstar of our time, I fully support him . . . even if he's not bold enough to admit it.

Best I Ever Had - Drake

follypimpi:
Denilson is a pure waste man,period.

Come on . . . last season Denilson touched the ball more times than any other player in the EPL (up until the FA Cup Final Weekend)
His job in the team is to be with the ball and he did it better than anyone else in the league . . .

Just because he's Brazilian doesn't mean he has to turn the pitch into a circus . . . remember Gilberto??

Ibime:
May God save Chelsea.


Someone buzz me when Ancelotti gets sacked.

He's just 30, same age as Drogba
Wasn't Ballack 30 when he came to Chelski??

tubabie:
Abeg no injure Bredtner for me o, leave pinky healthy, I need him fit

Hehehe . . . I need him injured all season, Van Persie definitely get injured during winter . . . so Vela gets more chances to score

nateevs:
@Eldee

Torres, Lampard, Arshavin, Vidic. . .
how can you afford these guys and still have 11. . .

Wenger schooled me . . .

I got Vela and a few guys from the following the Coca-Cola Championship. . .

Did I hear Dayo say sumn??
Grafite fired Bayern's manger for heavens' sake!!!
He dribbled your whole team and refused to score like normal footballers
His coach told him to do ten laps for exposing Germany's past glory.

nuzo:
On the other hand, this is 2009 and a lot of people have moved on. Most hiphop lovers will rather spend their time listening to real rap (powerful poems) instead of listening to rap songs thats all about hatred, murder and blings.

Bullshit . . . if hiphop lovers prefer poems to bling and controversy, why did Weezy's Carter III sell more records than Nas' Untitled??
Just because you have a new found love for History don't mean the world's with you.

nuzo:
Hiphop is not about beafing as some ITK are trying to make it look.

No one said hiphop is all about beef . . . what I've simply pointed out is the fact that it'sa dying art.
A dying art is still art.
This is the first time in years we're seeing real beef that's not Ice-T Vs Soulja Boy or Eminem Vs Mariah Carey . . .
Some rappers thrive best with rivalry . . . punchlines one of rap's finest ads are made specifically for battles

Vuitton:
The Jay Z - Chris Brown thing obviously relates to Chris Brown's pummelling of Rihanna (Jay Z's "employee".

NOOOOOO!!!!  You don't say

Vuitton:
. . and i dont think this is a good diss song, its just there. Game lacked focus on the track, after digressing to lil wayne, he disses, after drake, he disses, after Amber Rose, he apologises. . . .
. . . .after Beyonce, he apologises, Kanye West he half disses and hails, Chris Brown and Tpain WTF is this OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMGGG

He lacked focus?? Everyone he mentioned there was a reference to Jay-Z's.
'Don't Drake me', 'T-Pain stays, old nigga goes', 'Kanye bleeped up that bitch' . . . direct punchlines directed towards Jigga.
Digressing?? Everytime he mentioned sumone he came back to drop another puncline on Hov

'This ain't about her, this about Hov
I'ma chop down the roc and take it to the stove'

Vuitton:
Is this a good diss track In fact NO it is not!!!!

All he gootta say is that Jay looks like a camel with his lips and nose (stale), and he wishes that Jay would help Damon Dash with like $1 in cash cos he is ON TOP OF FORBES HIP HOP LIST! . . . . he's on 13 so he cant, but wont trade places. . . .

Only three people in this world would never admit that this is a track we'll play five years from now and see how good hiphop once was. . . You, Chiogo and Jay-Z

It had everything a classic diss track needs . . . you heard it here first-ness, controversy, good production, battle ready delivery, intelligent disses, namedroping, you name it.

And he had so much to say . . .

So, n-gga calm your nerves, with all that absurd
Far from the curb bullshit-slash-spoken word
You nerd
That was a straight-up diss targeted at Jigga's song  History

Ain’t no “Big Pimpin’” on my block
But I’m an underground king, peace to love-vendor C

Eliminates every I'm-richer-than-you reply from Hov . . . Remember that he's used it against Nas, Cam'ron and Lil Wane

You got my name in your mouth
I hope it tastes like this—ahhh
No homo, one more time—ahhh

Thanks to The Game, now I just laugh anytime I see the Death of Autotune Video

No one on the corner got a swagger like you, ’cause no one on the f*ckin’ corner is 42

This is the funniest punchline I've hear all year

Every line on this song was catches your imagination . . . like 'what's he refering to this time??'
And to think this is just a warning shot . . .
This is what you get for calling out sumone that's so loco

Why's everyone after Eminem's head?? Is he not just being the ignorant dickhead we've come to know and love since The Real Slim Shady??
Besides, is he not just doing what every other rapper does?? What's wrong with using controversy to revive his dead career??

My simple question is . . . why is a woman that has more Grammy nominations than Michael Jackson wasting studio time on Eminem??
What does she stand to gain?? What, does she think she'll outdiss Eminem or sumn??
She's the one that's arguably the most successful woman in pop culture . . . She has everything to lose

For heaven's sake, even Miley Cyrus didn't respond to Jamie Foxx TV rants . . . and that's a 17 year old
Just imagine MJ doing a reply to Just Lose It . . .

She's just worn her white Chanel gown to fight with the pigs . . . and to think these are two people in their 40s acting like teenagers

dyabman:
@Nateevs

You cant have all that player in one team , not no , maybe in the middle of the season, be like wenger now and later like Mark hughes

Do we get more points later in the season??

nateevs:
Is it true Clichy is already injured. . . ?
That's why I didn't want to sign any of those ninnies from Arsenal. . .
but what can I do when I can't have Lamps, Drogba, Terry and Ashley Cole in the same team?

I've got Torres, Lampard, Arshavin, Vidic and Cech in one team
I just hope Van Persie and Bendtner get injured so Vela gets enough starting chances

[quote author=invisible! link=topic=270819.msg4273885#msg4273885 date=1248978484]Damn! that was so daft of me[/quote]I agree . . . that was eally daft of you

MrCrackles:
Dayokanu is an idiot. . . .
I cant get my head round him comparing his crappy team to any top European side!
Bayern are buncha Otto Mullahs!

Why're we talking bout small teams like Bayern??
Come on, that's a record low . . . I'd rather sit here and discuss Derby County