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[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=269277.msg3881650#msg3881650 date=1242607797]Evaluation Bleep Jason it’s Friday the nineteenth
That means it’s just a regular day
And this is the kind of shit I think of regularly

He meant "regularly" but slanted it to rhyme with "regular day"
These are the indices of a good lyricist. Something Jigga and Nas can never match.
On the same song he went. . . .

Razor ba-lades(blades) with me to make you ba-leed(bleed)
Cases of Maybeline make up lay on the table of weed
Slim Shady, shit sounds like a fable to me
Til he jumps out the fuckin toilet while your takin a pee

He dragged "Bleed" to sound like Ba--leed and "Blades" to sound like "Ba-lades"
Using complex stress on his pronunciation to form classic rhymes and you say it's lazy??
Gosh. . . . . .Eldee, it seems hardcore rap has left you and your cohorts.
Rhyming has gone past Jigga's styles. This is 2009.[/quote]Hehehe . . . you've been hanging out with Russell Brand, these you posts are funnier by the minute
Stretching words . . . mark of a good lyricist?? my dayzzz?? What happened to having a million words for each point you want to make and substituting when one doesn't rhyme??
Is that not why they're called emcees??

This reminds me of rappers that use 'maynne' at the end of each line an claim that they're lyricists

For heavens' sake, Eminem ended a line with 'ugh' just so he could rhyme. . . lol

If I wanted stretched rhymes, like 'baleed' I'd go to Kanye West, afterall, he's never come out to say he's a super lyricist.

Have you ever felt like you wanted to kill her
and you mixed them emotions with tequ-illa

Kanye West- Bittersweet

All hail Kanye, the rhyme stretcher, chick fetcher, wait till he getsc-her

Eminem's whole album was punctuated, he lost his strongest asset, his flow. . . first time I'm seeing him like this

Tats:
In some EU countries, I think you always have to carry your ID Card (otherwise your passport). So when the guy says he carries his ID card or sometimes passport, you don't need to laugh at him or think otherwise.

I knew that, I was just taking a low blow. . . I always do that to Nigerians that live in Germany and those countries
It's just the same way Americans laugh at Brits for having BBC weather report as our most interesting soap opera.

[quote author=khai_khai link=topic=269277.msg3881080#msg3881080 date=1242594255]What are you talking about. Several of Jay-z verses in that album were recycled from old tracks. Hell, he loaned Shinoda some lines from those tracks.[/quote]Old tracks . . . ever wondered why it's called Numb/Encore??

Jay-Z came back and gave hiphop the best rock/rap crossover song since Stan.
All we need from Eminem is a good effort, believe me, all he managed to do was prove to everyone that he's not the demi-god you guys made us wait for.

Old Times' Sake, which in my opinion was the best song on the whole album . . . has the closest thing to his past works.

I smoke the kinda stuff that make the records go number one
Cuz if at first you don’t succeed, won’t hurt to smoke some weed - Dre

In Underground, his verses were good lyrically, the story is something only Eminem can spit, but it's easy to see that Em's delivery/flow's not as smooth as it used to be . . . I've never heard him this punctuated
This is a lazy Eminem

Evaluation fucking Jason its friday the 19th (Not 13th)
That means is just a regular day and this is the kind of shit I think of a regluar-lay

There's a few more of forced multies like that in the song and the whole album . . . this is sumthing I'll expect from Kanye West not Eminem, he's famous for his seamless multies.
And to think this was how he was expected to 'save hiphop' . . . are you having a laugh??

3am is just SAD What's Em's obsession with Kim Kardashian??

Sam Milla:
I never carried a condom in my pocket. I never hope to catch a cheap girl on the road and even if i do, i am not going to bed with her- atleast not that day.
I just carry 3 things everyday.

Phone (s).
Wallet (C.Card/D.Card, Some Cash depending on what is available [anything from 5 euro to 2000euro.]. D-License, Identification card {Passport sometimes} ).

Keys, Usually 2 or 3 pieces.


AND sometimes - MPdrei or iPod.

What country do you live in that you have to carry your passport al around?? Na wa oo

1. Wallet (ID Cards, Gym Card, Driving Licence, Travel Card, Debit and Credit Cards, Condom)
2. Keys
3. Vaseline
4. I-phone
5. Ipod (I-phone's battery life's really low)
6. Wrigleys
7. Antiseptic Tissues Paper (Since Swine Flu)
8. Cash : About £20

I don't know how they fit, but I confirmed this by emptying my pocket after church today.

R Backpocket: 1,7,8
L Backpocket: 5
R Sidepocket: 2, 3, 6
L Sidepocket: 4

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=273246.msg3878628#msg3878628 date=1242511885]How is this a commercial effort?
Dig deep into the album(forget the radio-friendly songs on MTV).
"3 am", "Underground", "Stay Wide Awake", etc.
These are dark songs no rapper has been able to put out for the past 3-4 years.
Flow-wise and lyrically, this album is amazing.[/quote]You call that radio-friendly?? Nah, that's not even ear-friendly

Come on, this album is not even as good as The Game's Documentary, lyrically and otherwise.

You want to know why it's a commercial effort, Eminem's on Friday with Jonathan Ross, he's releasing a game for this . . . why did we wait four years to see what a 50 Cent coulda done??

Every idiot comes out to say they're not releasing albums because standards have dipped, and then they end up pushing the standards much lower.
I heard 50Cent saying he'staking a break from hiphop too. Why?? He 'ain't feeling this climate in hiphop'. . . rubbish

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=273246.msg3878628#msg3878628 date=1242511885]What i don't seem to understand is critics saying Eminem should change his stylez. . . . .How can?
Elton John hasn't stopped his love stories, Beyonce hasn't stopped her beautiful liar schizo, why should Eminem change?
Bagpipes from Baghdad till ma pulse stops. [/quote]I'm not saying he should change, I'm saying this effort is crap.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=269277.msg3880442#msg3880442 date=1242582006]The only people who have gone pop is your friend EM and 50 dude is reduced to moaning about Mariah Carey and Kim Kardashian[/quote]That's the funniest part of it . . . infact that's Sauron's definition of hardcore
Hov retired and came back with Numb/Encore, Eminem came back with a track talking bout Kim Kardashian's bum

iniguy:
All these songs and more deserve to be banned. I sometimes wonder what is wrong with our music makers. The display of indecency and vulgarity is nauseating, can't a music album sell in nigeria without having seminude or totally nude girls in display? what puzzles me is that the men are always well dressed.
The censor board have a great task ahead of them. These so called superstars must be made to realize thta they are in Africa where decency and moral values are held in high esteem.

It's called freedom of speech/expression . . .

P.S no one has come to put nude girls on display in any Nigerian music video so you have no point there.

Moral Values?? You talk about moral values in one of the most corrupt countries in the world?? Is it not these politicians that pick up these girls in campuses??

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=273246.msg3878546#msg3878546 date=1242510362]U must be having a laugh, mate!!!
Eminem's Relapse is the best rap album i have listened to in the last 3 years.
If you want to base your judgement on the leaked version of his album, it's entirely up to you.
Wait for the itunes version. [/quote]Dude, you're going to have to send this one to me . . . cus I don't see myself contributing to this robbery.
This is a purely commercial effort . . . coming from someone that 'can't release an album because of what the game has turned into' I'm dissapointed.

You're talking bout the leaked version, I'll wait for i-tunes, I think it's coming out later in the UK as usual.
Maybe the audio quality will help, but same thing with Newcastle, maybe they won't be relegated.

As I listened to Liverpool fans sing 'Shoulda stayed on the Tele' in their thousands against Newcastle, the only person that came to my mind (apart from Alan Shearer obviously) was Eminem's Relapse.
2/3 years after Shady's 'retirement' every work that came out from rap studios round America was being measured against MMLP.

From The Game's Documentary to Jay-Z's American Gangster, Stans and even the rest of the 'hiphop heads' around the globe were quick to point out that Eminem's last album is the best thing after sex on a Dubai beach.
It was seriously getting annoying when came out to blame hiphop's 'death' on Shady's retirement.

Then came the 14th of May 2009, four days before the 'rebirth of hiphop' . . . yeah, the day the the most eagerly awaited hiphop album of our time leaked.
Got the album, mission accomplished . . . mildly put, if this is what Eminem wanted to bring out, he shoulda stayed in retirement and held on to the cred.

It's funny how Alan Shearer had to manage Newcastle before the Magpies realised that football management is not as clearcut as sitting on Match of The Day hating on Arsenal. . . it's also funny how Eminem had to release an album to see that hiphop music has evolved.

Will 9jahiphop.com ever stop coming to post B.S on Nairaland.com??

chikeobi:
Sagamite those highlighted are they English? Wonder what your mum thought you.

UN SEC GEN speaks English more that you? Then you are a failure as far as English Lang is concerned. You better go and learn Ishan and Yoruba to belong somewhere dude. Again what has going to HU got to do with the argument?.

It's obvious that you totally incapable of engaging in a reasonable debate . . . hell I'll put my money on Paris Hilton to beat you in a chess match.
What is wrong with 'belief in common ancestry'??

You want to question my English when you cannot write in basic sentence in Anglais to save your mum's life.
'UN SEC GEN speaks English more than you?' . . . damn, these blasts hit faster than Pacquiao's hooks

1. I named different sources and mentioned countless researchers . . . attack the message not the messenger. The Sun only tried out what many other sources have confirmed, in other words, the research, not Rupert Murdock is high in reliability.

Good point . . . thing is, Offsted reports have come out every now and then to point out that schools with more ESL pupils attain poorer grades, even the schools come out to agree with this.
Now that's the UK, problems like that are attended to as soon as possible . . . apply that same scenario to a school in Lagos. Nigerian schools don't have time to give extra attention, they just label them as dumb kids, end product?? Self-fulfilling prophesy.
When this comes into play, people like you just call it 'poor edcational system' but you forget that we have as much influence on the social institutions.

3. Same way I should be blending into my Saudi identity, but I'm not, because my forefathers decided to leave Mecca for Ife over a tiny little riot.
What?? You think I won't prefer to live with the Saudi customs?? But nah, it's too late, we already invented a new identity.
You get my drift ??

4. Egbon . . . leave fine-boy for youngers like us,your era's gone jare

5. This UN Sec-Gen speaks two major world languages, his communication abilities will probably trash everyone else on this thread.
That comes to my point, Yourba will not help anyone outside Nigeria, why risk my english for that??

You want to play the name-game??

Unemployment in the UK is highest among the ESL communities.
Millions of Nigerians end up unemployed after schooling because they lack fluency in English.
That's a proven FACT. You can mention all the names you want but I'll drop facts here like Rafa did to Fergie.

6. Tell me you're just trying to be the devil's advocate here, because this your argument against globalisation is irrelevant.
You are an intelligent man, if I wanted to go into needless arguments, chikeobi is not too far away.
Global influence, which is stronger, Nigerian music VS American Music?? You're here telling me Jagajaga??

7. I don't know how to explain to you that globalisation is the only reason why millions of people will be watching the same thing in 200 countries at different time zones all around the world.
You're begining to sound less Sagamite and more chikeobi

First, they arrest women for provocative dressing (i.e wearing singlets in the hot Lagos sun)
Next they arrest bloggers for 'treason'
Now it's banning songs for 'vulgarity'

Is it me or is Nigeria becoming Iran??

And here . . . someone finally agrees with the fans
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/5301418/Alisher-Usmanov-ready-to-fund-Arsenal-spree.html

I think he'll be the one to end Arsene's career at Arsenal if he ever gets what he wants.
He'd prolly try to force Wenger to go against the youth policy, like buy seven over-25s . . .
Le Prof disagrees and voila . . . Le Prof goes to Real Madrid

MrCrackles:
I have always said Diaby was a donkey!

Diaby, Silvestre, Bendtner and Eboue should all be released or flogged for cheap at Tayside market

Diaby's the worst of the lot.
22 caps, no influence in just one . . .
He loses the ball more often than Gilberto and Cygan put together, he's most definitely our weakest link.

1. I knew you'ld come up with something that smart, that's why I used BBC's research as an example.
At least, we know it cuts through social class.

In mainstream settings, native speakers, for whom English is nearly automatic, can focus primarily on the cognitive tasks of an assignment—learning new information, procedures, etc—however, the student with limited ability in English must focus on both cognitive and linguistic tasks—learning new vocabulary, structures and academic discourse” (Anstrom, 1997:5).

I don't know why you're using your own one-man research when I'm using researches from BBC, The Sun and a lot of other sources. . . Having English as a second language in an English Language based educational system . . . It's a no-brainer, I wonder why people even do research on it.

2. For someone that claims to be a strategist, I'm not surprised that with the you assume a lot.
Anyways, why do you think I'm comfortable with that??

3. Bla, bla, bla You seem to think belief in common ancestry is the only aspect of identity?? Infact, I think I should be jamming in Mecca right now, afterall that's where my forefathers were from.

And that thing about finding out where they're from, it's simply people being adventurous, it's not like they pick up traditions when they find out, nah, they go sober for two days, and voila, they're black American again.
These people have forged a different culture that takes bits from both the Western culture and remains of the African heritage and forged a new form of ethnic identity that even you cannot identify with.
At the end of the day, Martin Luther King is one of the most recognisable names in America . . . and he ain't African, he's African[b]American[/b].\

4. Yes nah, see this old papa ooh

Ban Ki Moon is a Havard graduate, his Anglais is better than mine.

Believe it or not, American music has over-influenced the Nigerian Music scene . . . Pop is Western, Tuface is a pop artiste, so whatchu talking bout??
Don't use the Nigerian Entertainment industry to back up that point, that's a simple piece of advice.

5. You really want to go into a football argument with me??
I used 'worship' for Ukraine, first hand experience . . .

And your argument is getting weaker by the minute, does it have to be worshipped to be a regarded as a global event??
Mister, you're stepping more and more into my comfort zone, aiite let me explain to you, over 600 million homes watch the EPL every week, now, we forgot to count the African countries where people have viewing centres and pubs to watch football. These 600 million homes have regular followers.

An estimated 1 billion people watch the two Arsenal Vs Man Utd matches every season, the rest are the passive followers.
And you say this is not Globalisation??

6. I've told you to stop using your success story as a case-study for the wider population.
Various researchers have put time and effort into proving my point and you're busy telling me bout how you met Sir Alan Sugar

@Ndipe
I've told you before that you cannot use China as a case-study
How can you compare Yoruba to a China's official language??
How dare you blame modern day Nigerians for not using a language that's basically useless once you step into a South-Eastern state??
This will be the last time I'll reply anyone that's not putting forward valid arguments.

@Sagamite
If you don't mind, I'll prefer answering your posts in points, it's saves so I won't need to edit quotes

1. I'm half Yoruba, half Ishan . . . The only reason I concentrated on Ishan is because it's my mum's native language.
And I do speak basic Yoruba, but I only picked it up after I'd already built a foundation in English.
As I said, I'm not against being bilingual, I'm against having backyard language as my first language.
As I said before, for every ten people that have 'gone far' I'll point out thousands that have been inhibited because of the language factor.

2. Identity?? I share beliefs of common ancestry (Except when you start talking of Odudua's snailshell and cock story), I share many of your values (like being religious and honesty), and I share most customs (except when it's superstion). How does thinking in the world's most important language take away my identity??

Erm, now let's me step out of the picture and be objective here . . . do you think Black-British don't have a sense of ethnic identity??Oh, you think the Jesse Jacksons and MLKs don't feel like they belong somewhere??
Whether you like it or not these same Black-British people have managed to form a culture with a very distinct set of norms and values compared to traditional Africans. Just like how White-Americans are different from their British cousins.
You can attack them if you want to, but you'll be no different from small minded racist pricks.

3. We seem to have different ideals in life, maybe it's because I'm much younger than you are.
Or maybe it's because I've been schooled by these capitalists, but I believe the most important legacy you can give to your child is anything that helps him stand on his own in the future.

And you keep mentioning brain power and all that, am I arguing against the importance of brainpower?? That point is highly irrelevant. I'll ignore that.

4. Hehehe . . . funniest thing I heard all year, Ukranians don't worship the Premiership??
Religiously followed by over half a billion people, so the over 200 countries that watch the EPL don't have good leagues??
You are an intellingent man, but this your arguments are weak.

You accuse me of having a black African mentality, here you are displaying it at the highest level.
I mentioned food as an example of the power of Globalisation, and you're here talking bout liver.
Think outside the box, it helps.

Sagamite:
I am yet to see any human being that does not respect himself but yet is respected by others.

Because I don't speak Hausa doesn't mean I don't respect myself
Obama doesn't speak anything Kenyan . . . that argument is irrelevant

Sagamite:
Lets face the facts, the vast majority of people that refuse to speak mother tongue to their child do so because of inferiority complex (want to seem posh, and not seen as 'bush'). The secondary one is the belief that the child will not get far if they don't come across as highly westernised.

Wrong!!! It's simply because, being able to converse in English in Nigeria is something that's more known with the literate.
You're blaming them?? My country's educational system is English-based

Sagamite:
I will speak only Yoruba to my kids at home because it is important for a human being to know and feel they belong somewhere, and being able to speak the language helps. No doubt they will learn English as they will have to go to school, so learning English is inevitable.

True say, but most people (moi included) would rather teach them English at home and give them a headstart
When they're 9-10 years of age and a strong foundation has been built, then Yoruba can come in. I started learning Pidgin English at 15, it took time, but I got it right, I wouldn't have that kind of opportunity with English.

Sagamite:
In regards to them not being able to speak English fluently because it was not spoken to them at home, that to me is clunking bollocks.

I spoke Yoruba at home, learnt English in school and read novels in english. I am a horibble linguist. I mean horrrrrrrrrible linguist. I can't learn another language apart from the two I already know. But yet, I have always got the highest mark for any English test, even for exams set by UK-based examination boards.

Also, I have lived in the UK for years now. I am not the type to be blowing fone to please anybody or to assume some stuuuuuuppid accent to prove I am UK-based. When I speak to non-Nigerians, they normally have absolutely no clue where I am from because I have no British (be it Queen's, cockney) accent, American accent or African accent. I speak clean english, to the point people tend to ask me "where are you from"?

I am able to communicate with the most advance white person in a business environment in such a way that it has never affected my progress career wise. So I think, I stand as evidence that the secondary reason of not speaking the mother tongue to your child is weak. I have a solid foundation in English despite speaking Yoruba at home and growing up in Yoruba state and being utterly useless in learning languages. Also, I didn't even go to posh expensive private schools in Nigeria, I went to ordinary schools.

Hmmn . . .quite an interesting story
But you forgot to tell me how this your research is representative of the wider population
Also, you failed to explain to me why it's so easy to pick out thousands of so-called graduates that can't speak basic English.

I'm also waiting to understand why your research draws sharp contrasts to the one BBC did on children that speak English as a second language needing extra help to cope in school.
But I guess, we have to ignore research that was done on over 800,000 kids and accept your lone-man research as valid.

Sagamite:
Mandela, Achebe, Ban ki Moon, Aung San Suu Kyi, Yunus, Lashkmi Mittal all have an accent but they are globally respected.

How many times do I have to emphasize that I'm not talking accents here??

Sagamite:
You know what, why don't we even change the names of our town's and cities to English names to know we are adapting to globalisation.  

Let my hometown Sagamu (or Sagamu-ewa if you want to be conc) be changed to Sagasville, Sagingham or Sagahampton to satisfy this dude's interpretation of globalisation.  

When I say the Economic meltdown affects the whole world, do I mean it's good??
Try to be objective here . . . please

@Sagamite
You don't seem to get my point, I'm not against being bilingual, I'm all for it
What I'm against here is having Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa as your first and basic language, it's just not the way forward.

You can scream 'patriotism' all you can but we cannot use our kids to correct the mistakes of our founding fathers.
If you really want me to put Yoruba as a priority over English in my home, start from making this Yoruba a language to reckon with in 'Formal Nigeria'
Why raise my kid with a language he can't use once he puts on a suit?? Kids with English as their basic language have an understandably clear advantage in Nigerian schools . . . heck even the proceedings in MOST business circles in Lagos are done in English.
English is Nigeria's first language. You have to accept that, and I'll rather my child had that as his basic language too.
Five years old above, then I can add Yoruba (I'd rather he picked up Spanish though) as his next.

You lot act like Globalisation is such a weird concept, it's simple, fifty years ago, the Nigerian Challenge Cup was the only thing my granddad cared about, now every Ade, Obi and Ahmed has a Fly Emirates replica kit. What do we blame??
In the early 1900s, British food was 'British', the average Brit restaurant is more French that what you'll see in Paris . . . Globalisation
The spread of this Anglais, is too fast for us to ignore, my cousin studies in Ukraine, they teach him in English. We're lucky to have the world's widest spread language as our official lingo, let's embrace it.

German kids, Arab kids, Greek kids, Italian kids, Spanish kids, Urdu kids, Hindi kids, Chinese kids?? Stop listing countries that have these languages as their official language . . . this logic is so flawed
At the end of the day, if Yoruba were to be my country's official language,I will most definitely not be here speaking English.

You're talking about Welsh and Gaelic, some schools and universities teach a few courses in Welsh, this is how to get your kids speaking in these languages, not sitting at home telling me to raise my kids up with Yoruba as a first language in a country were non-English speakers are considered illiterate.

@dayokanu
It is not about the accent . . . it's about fluency in communication, getting your point across
This Mandela you're talking about speaks fluent English, we cannot say that about our dear chikeobi

chikeobi: But you posts in responce to ma questions shows you are not

Is this anglais?? This is just sad . . . and to think this is only written English.

@topic
If we are going to try the 'Rebranding the Culture' thingy, risking our childrens' lives is not the best way to do it.

Why don't we start from enforcing National History and Nigerian Languages in the primary school syllabus like the UK does with Shakespeare??
Or why didn't we make a law immediately after independence to make Hausa the official language to be used in the Senate and House of Reps like India??
And yeah, basing the whole school structure on Igbo would help like China.
But nah, we're here trying to punish our children for mistakes our founding fathers made.

We're not talking bout using the two here, we're talking bout which one stands as the basic language, the one used in early cognitive processes.
We need to make English the language Junior thinks in, we might feed the rest to him as he grows up mentally.
It's simple, favouritism has to go to the one that will help him assimilate things quicker in school, get him a job and create an Obama.
It's been argued that Cockney English is more artistic and poetic that the BBC version, but the BBC one is more useful as it helps you in formal circles. . . c'est fini

In my opinion, Essien's absence is the main factor behind Scolari's flop at Chelsea
Now he's being judged even when he didn't have one of his teams most important players

Na only me and Nigga-raw dey blow phone(tics) for Igbo

Some dude in a Nigga-raw video

Emperoh:
gaynners
Has it gotten this bad?
Una dey use female squad compensate?
Anyway anything to stop Muki from Committing suicide, i am all for it.

Lol . . . Arsenal is Arsenal jare . . .

tkb417:
I hope this is sustainable. cos im sure when you started supporting this team, they were not this barren.

Believe me . . . these chicks don't look like they'll stop anytime soon

@Mistiky and Asha
I agree with you to an extent, but you need to see where I'm coming from
Indians united and enforced a decree that makes it illegal to run important processes, like the law-making and the budget in English
Before that, they chose one, that's Hindi, to be the official language . . . this annoyed minorities but with social solidarity, they made it happen
Same with China, there's a constant effort by the government to enforce a standard Chinese

But this is not the same wiv Nigeria, Nigeria is an amalgamation of three potential nations
Choosing one as an official language will be difficult, the strenght of a language depends on where it's used
All Nigerian languages are only used in informal circles, hence the 'erosion'

tkb417:
na women soccer u dey follow now? the men have failed shey?
dont worry, u'll win the Amsterdam tournament soon

Abeg leave me oooh, is it my fault that Chapman performs better than (as Man Utd fans at Wembley called him) 30million quid worth of shite Berbatov on the big stage??


I'm supporting Arsenal . . . women, men, youth, U-16, Reserve, even future gunners

Shit, they scored
Damn . . . Same defensive errors, I told you it's the Arsenal curse

Arsenal Ladies 2-1 Sunderland

Champions again . . . and why are our chics this good-looking??

GOAAAAAALLL!!!!!!

Chei . . . see this chic's ball control
I feel like I'm watching Torres

A lobbed thru-pass, she controlled it with one foot, and still used it to misplace the keeper.
Little, remember the name

tkb417:
na u sabi

Hehehe . . . abi na lie I talk??

mukina2:
Eldee
i read that somewhere too
If they win, they will be lifting it for the 4th time in a row
i will post the pics later

They're wasting chances, just like the boys
Now I know it's not Arsene Wenger's problem . . . it's an Arsenal curse

Arsenal Ladies are a goal up in the Women's FA Cup Final
You know how we does what we done does

@Dayo
You mentioned Fowler??
Do you know he went on to take that penalty himself??
And nah, he didn't just kick it to the keeper, her scored it.


This was the same refree that ignored a clear mid-match exchange/demand for Vela's shirt in the penalty area
Asharvin was fouled many times in the box . . .
Bendtner was just being a professional . . . at least not like old-man Garry Neville diving to win a penalty

Mistiky:
How many French, Chinese, Japanese, German, Russian e.t.c citizens pride themselves on being able to speak proper English without tonality while LIVING or RAISED in their native country talk less of prioritising that over their handle of the local lingo. Most they do is just make sure their English is passable. And of course thats just the ones that care to be bothered. That don't make them less cultured or civilised none.

Whats more, the so called English speakers "U.k, U.S, Canada" aren't even bothered that a foreigner speaks English with alot of foreign accent. In fact they expect it. Its only in Nigeia that we choose to embarass ourselves or others by feeling superior or inferior cuz we speak English with alot of accent or poorly.

An Englishman will respect a foreigner alot if He/She can speak flawless English but the moment they realise that it took priority over efficacy in the local lingo, they automatically feel you have placed their culture and language over yours and that fuels their superiority complex which really doesn't need more fanning thereby causing them to look down on your culture and tradition.

I'll have to disagree with you there
As I said before, you can't use Germany, Spain and China as yardsticks
These are strong nations with the same language from border to boder, Nigeria is not like that
Even the budget is handed out in Anglais, English is a unifying language in Nigeria. Ishan is useless immediately you step out of Edo state.
Why risk your kid's fluency for something as baseless as that?? Am I less Yoruba cus I don't speak the language??

chikeobi:
Did the original poster ask you to tell us where you grew up and where your mother came from. Maybe your father is English if at all you know where he came from.

I don't know if I explained this before . . . I don't care if you think I'm from a single-parent family
If your clearly illiterate reasoning cannot help you grasp the fact that I was talking of the two strongest agents of socialisation, then believe whichever one helps you sleep at night.
As I said before . . . Anglais is your problem, and maybe semi-illiteracy too

nuzo:
Because someone is not fluent in english doesnt mean he/she is semi illiterate, otherwise, you should visit china sometime and see what the so-called semi illiterate are doing for themselves.

In countries like the US, Nigeria and the UK, where the going through school system is based on your ability to communicate effectively in English, anything less that fluent Anglais is worse than semi-illiteracy, it's a disability.
Why not give your kids the advantage of having the most widely spoken language in the world as their basic language??

And you can't use China as your example, English is not their lingua franca
Ever wondered why they're confined to Engineering when they step out of their territory.
English is the world's business language, we're lucky the British colonised us.

chikeobi:
Are u Yoruba or ishan? I think you are product of single parent. No insult meant.

None taken . . . but I think this is what happens when English is not introduced in the formative years of childhood.

I clearly noted that I grew up in a Yoruba state . . . and then I pointed out that my mum's native language is Ishan.
I don't think there's any line from the first poster that says I have to give out personal info on my private life to put forward my point of view.
It's Mother tongue Vs Lingua Franca not 'Tell the whole of the world where your parents are from'