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@stillwater
I'll have to take blame fo that . . .
When I first became mod, errfin here was Modenine, Saucekid and Rugged, with a lil bias here and there I created many American hiphop threads on this section . . .
I even made one to spite Noel Gallagher fans and got it to the homepage
I got what I wanted though . . . but I ended up sending you guys away, kinda like replacing one addiction with another.

I'll try to start another Indie Rock/Death Metal drive soon, let's hope you guys come back . . .

How can you guys be this blind?? This is illegal money!!!
He scammed Nokia to get the deal . . .

Wait till our resident FBI agent . . . Uncle Sege snakes him out!!!

chiogo:
Yes, Blueprint 3 is taking too long to be released. . .not like I can't get the songs anyway, lmao.
I've only listened to 'Jocking Jay-z' (pretty short if you ask me or is it just me?) and Swagga like us, I thought that was T.I's song. Anywayz, I loved Jigga's part, know the lyrics by heart.

History is like a fusion of Nas and Notorious B.I.G
Metaphorical masterpiece?? . . . I'm thinking more in the line of Hiphop's next landmark.

About Success:
Now success was like lust shes good to the touch
Shes good for the moment but shes never enough, she's nothing like victory

@A-40
This is Jay-Z working hard to give something back to hiphop
No more 'I'm a hustler disguised as a rapper' . . . he's trying to engrave his name in hiphop history
I remember 'half orphan, Mama never had an abortion, Papa sorta did' . . . I'm thinking, this is genius disguised as 150 million a year earning rapper

He's flirted with defeat, had success, made love with victory . . . he's decided to make history

stillwater:
@ topic

I don't bother coming here again. I know people will say "ehn create your own threads" and even use 'sarcasm' to probably say you're whining, but who cares?  Even topics that ought to be general will turn into some rap thingy. There was a topic here about Rhythm and lyrics. The next thing I knew it became a rap thread. I totally lost my appeal for it.

Come on. . . why're you taking a cheapshot

Aight see how it goes, open a thread like The Killers- Day and Age Review, no idiot will come there to discuss Modenine
Afterall, the Rock music lovers thread dominated the section for about two weeks . . .

In the rhythm and lyrics thread was just misinterpreted, even the first poster kind of implied that he was talking bout hiphop
Same thing with my 'Artistes that should take the bow' thread . . .

Ask Karma, I've held my ground on hiphop threads by arguing from a music/pop culture perspective, if everyone rock/death metal/classical music fan can do that, you guys will be the ones claiming hiphop threads.
All we need is a few more radioheads and we'll change the section

Anyone that follows the Sports Section will see how English the section is, but now we've seen how only one bloke has brought in the German League and stuff like that . . .
Right now, the French Open, The NBA and the Formula One have busy threads thanks to these people.

follypimpi:
Please make an APALA section too.

Finally . . . someone that's still in touch with the sarcastic bone

Cristalz:
Oops, my bad. My sarcasm radar's rusty due to insufficient use.  .  .that's what happens when people want you to be nice and all smiley all the time.

Gotta get my rage back!

p.s. . .lalaboi nor vex. we apologize for the slight deviation.

Lol  . . . mod nor easy my sister

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=276465.msg3961730#msg3961730 date=1243895867]eldee take ur sport complaint to the sport section abeg[/quote]I promise to . . . as soon as you an Apala section is created

[quote author=da-whizkid link=topic=278823.msg3961734#msg3961734 date=1243895916]@eldee
Personally, i think 'History' is a good song,maybe betta than Nas on 'My President is Black',i don't care.
IMO Apart from History, the rest song Sucks! Swagga like us na be the one wey dey vex me pass. C'mon Jigga's beta than that.
I don't knw if he's bitin Eminem,i can't tel but most def Jigga bites from Big Pop.n saying those songs r better than RELAPSE,i see pure hate. Those songs can't stand toe to toe wit Deja vu or Beautiful.as Deep as Jay's History is,its no way near Em's Underground.-Nor Go there at all. - My Opinion.[/quote]Underground?? Not even Old Time's Sake, Underground?? Damn, are you Borat in diguise, u're cracking me up. . .
Tell me you're not being serious . . .

History Vs a '36 year old' talking bout drinking sumone's bath water and Miley Cyrus' bum??
You are definitely having a laugh . . . Hope you know Swagga Like Us won a Grammy??

Eminem has become this weird attention seeker. . . I still believe he shoulda stayed away

Crizzle. . . it's sarcasm, haba . . . moi?? Badmin who??
Abeg oohh, I'm a Gooner till the end of football comes

I have a complaint too . . . Football threads are too many in the Sports Section
I reckon we should close down the Sports Section till the moderators create threads on rowing and cricket.
You know what, I think we should ban threads on the demonic English Premier League, it intimidates we lovers of Badminton

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=278823.msg3961179#msg3961179 date=1243889030]Seriously, Jigga needs to retire.
I am tired of him biting from Biggie and Eminem. [/quote]Lol . . . joker
Why did Eminem come back?? To suck Bruno's ass??

Thoe four songs I listed are better than the whole Relapse album put together.

Jay-Z retire?? Dude makes more money from rock shows than Eminem makes talking bout Miley Cyrus

obinna5000:
I don't know why some artistes delay or change release dates for their albums. Especially Dr. Dre that has been delaying Detox since 2005.

History and Brooklyn Go Hard are the tracks I like so far from the upcoming album Blueprint 3.

I know, the most annoying part with Blueprint 3 is one of the songs is a classic diss reply, Swagga Like Us has won a Grammy and History has been performed at The President's ball . . . come on
How long do we have to wait to get the whole thing??

History is so deep . . . it's 200 times more creative than Nas's verse on My President is Black

I seriously do not care if Jay-Z delays the release of this album till year 3008, these tracks will definitely define the place hiphop holds in pop culture.

Confirmed tracks include:

Jocking Jay-Z ft Kanye West
History
Brooklyn ft Santagold
Swagger Like Us

I'm still trying to imagine what an album with these four songs, but apparently, I'll have to wait till this September.
It's easy to know why Hov would make this kind of album at his prime, he says it himself in History

I wanna be remembered long after u breathe
Long after I'm gone long after I breathe
I leave all I am in the hands of history
That’s my last will testimony
This is much more than a song its a baby shower
I been waiting for this hour history ur ours

SapeleGuy:
Religion defies logic, when we have had the courage to sort out Okija et al  then we can criticise palm bunches, until then stop your double standards.

Those are my exact sentiments . . . the government allows Sharia, a set of codes that allows public murder for stupid reasons
No one's talking bout that one . . .

We need to learn to respect other people's traditions . . . it's Bini cultural norms enforced in Benin, what's wrong with that??

SapeleGuy:
Respect other peoples culture!

If muslims, christians and jews can say they don't eat pork or what ever else they say they forbid then, why can't one of the oldest living kingdoms in the world make a statement like this without your criticism.

Oba Gha To 'Kpere
Ise !

PS. Is this politics?

Your point is really valid . . . I think traditional african religions are disrepcted even in Nigeria
A Christian sect prays for death to people and it's cool, Sango worshippers do the same thing and it's voodoo

But I think you're using the wrong analogy . . . the closest thing to this is the ban of the sale of alcohol in some nothern states.
If muslims won't complain bout that, then they have no right to complain bout this case.
I'm not saying I support this.

@naijaking1
How hard is it for you to undertand that religion is the most influential part of Benin culture??
This is a simple case of religious norms being put in the wider society.

C2H5OH:
haha he is a bleeping nigerian. what a goat.

I'm sorry, but what's wrong with being Nigerian??

How can anyone say Nas doesn't have the best voice in rap??
Come on!!! One mic . . . our emotions rose and dipped with this same voice
Best thing bout Nas, he doesn't sing like Pac, the rest, no voice stresses, no voice to blow up your speaker, infact, he talks the same way he raps . . .

Bastage:
Not true.
Most of the Caribbean blacks are second or third generation and therefore have a UK education.
Most Africans are first generation and have an African education.

In politics, Caribbean blacks far outnumber African blacks.
Concentrating solely on MPs is also misleading. Nearly every single authority in the UK has black councillors.

Are you having a laugh?? Everyone knows that Black-Africans are more educated than the Afro-Caribbeans


By using councillors instead of MPs, u're enforcing the concept of the glass ceiling.
And that's painting a far worse picture.

dayokanu:
EPL teams dominate the UCL recently because the same teams come every year.

Rosenborg have been coming as Norway's sole rep for 13 years, are they anywhere in Europe yet??
The EPL's Big Four's has the best teams in Europe, why shouldn't they be the best in England??

honeric01:
EPL can never do that, your dominance was suppose to start in 2005, unfortunately, BARCELONA and AC MILAN broke into the show, so sorry, nothing for you dude, maybe in like 20 year's time, you can talk about the epl dominance, when Madrid did theirs, it was 5 trophies in a role bro, wake up, one club 5 trophies with no interruption, that's what we call DOMINANCE bro

Come on . . . so by your own definition, only one league has dominated the UCL??
How come you said Italy dominated the 90s . . . did they win every year??

For heaven's sake, we've been represented in every final since 2005
We've won two of the last four, had three teams in semi-finals for two consecutive years, had an all-EPL Final, we even beat out all three Italian reps without any assistance. And you say that's not dominance??
If dominance doesn't mean me predicting a three EPL representatives in the semis next year, then tell me what it is.

dayokanu:
Ruudie i one of the few sensible EPL fans left The ref was not biased in giving Abidal a red card but was when denying penalty appeals?

RIDICULOUS!!

Come on, you know Pepe would have come out to complain bout the red card if they ended up losing the match too, it's human nature . . .
If we get the result we wanted, we usually forget the rest of it.

honeric01:
your birthright, yet you were trailing the Italy and Spain until last year abi? funny.

Point of correction, we were trailing until the Rafa-lution
Since Istanbul, we've dominated . . . that was the rebirth of the EPL in Europe . . .

And yeah, it's our birthright, it's just like Madrid of the past . . . it's the turn of the EPL now
Next ten years, the era'll prolly be over, that's why we have to gather as many trophies as we can before then

Lagosboy:
Blacks are definately more than 1.1 million as shown by the link above . If Nigerians could amount to btw 800k and 3 million then blacks will be around 4 million at least.

The asians especially indian and pakistani in the 50s to 60s ensured their children had high education while the blacks in the UK then were of carrebean origin did not really go for education.

It is a known fact that African blacks are more educated comparaed to their carrabean brothers. Witihin the asian bangladeshi are the least educated as they go into restaurant business and other businesses after high school. You need quality education to get into politics in this country and if you look at the background of the MP's majority of them were educated in private schools (which is damn expensive here) , studied at oxford , cambridge (i think about 60% of intakes are from private schools). Not many ethnics have this priviledge but things will change here steadily i am sure but calling for a black PM might be 20 yrs away but it will happen if obama is a successful president.

Exactly . . . wha you just explained here is that the problem is socio-economic class, not race/ethnicity
Because even the Indian MPs are middle class . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=269585.msg3914280#msg3914280 date=1243123144]That will never happen in the EPL.
Did u see Xavi swearing at the ref?? Buncha hooligans.
Barcelona's defence is a joke. . . . . . .Vidic, Rio, Ronaldo should be licking their lips. [/quote]For heaven's sake Gurdiola was swearing at the refree in ENGLISH!!!!
English is his fourth language . . . but that's the easiest way he knew he could get to the refree

And Dayo's calling them saints . . . na wa oo

I know EPL teams get really passionate bout winning the UCL
Why won't we?? It's our birthright for God's sake

presido1:
Feminism?
This has broken many homes and will still do. One time about this feminism of a thing is that those women fighting for it did not define it very well. Yes you can fight for equality in your office or where ever you work but you cannot come into your family house to fight for it with your husband. Itz natural that your husband heads the family, itz not by his making but by God and the society. Feminism is still not achieved in the western world and i don't think they will in this century irrespective of how they try. Infact the campaign is not even as serious now as it was during the Beijing conference(Third Wave Feminism).

'God made man the head of the house' . . . this has been the main excuse for a majority of unreported crimes/assault in Nigeria.
God also says 'Thou shalt not steal', 'Love thy neighbour as thineself', but all those ones are not as important . . . we choose this one because it favours us . . . bullshit.

A thinker once pointed out that the reason why male dominance has been reproduced generation to generation is because of the fact that women never learn to stand up against it as their mothers, who should be role models are weaklings.

presido1:
How many of you feminist can work up to a man and toast him? Many things need to be changed b4 any head way and i don't think you feminist can be able to do that.
1) If Men and Women are equal why change your name to your husband's after marriage, can it be the other way round? NO.
2) Why must it be the man to do the marriage rites(Nigeria and Africa in gen)
3) Women will start popping out the question "Will you marry me" or whatever.

Until all these and many more are addressed i don't think you women will achieve equality within the family system.

That's one good point though . . . the problem with feminism in Africa is that women end to want to pick the best of both worlds
They want to be 'independent' but they turn back and marry a man that can 'take care' of them
It's funny how most female 'role models' in Nigeria rode to success on the backs of their powerful husbands . . .

chiogo:
Feminism cannot work if some women actually believe they (women) are inferior and should be subordinate to men.

Feminism will work if strong women will first act as role models and then educate women to tear off that blindfold that makes them feel inferior to men.
It's a collective thing, but it will work if all women, and men come together to stop it.

History - Jay-Z

chiogo:
This is why I don't wanna be entangled in the whole feminist thingy. I'd rather work hard and earn my stripes but if I feel mistreated, then I'll see the need to scream 'feminism'.

Look at Page 1 and tell me these guys should be allowed to continue with these values from the 1700s

One's pay as you go, one's contract

@topic
How can anyone say Feminism in Africa is successful??

Do you know 12-year old girls are still being married off by greedy parents??
Do you know some women still count themselves as incomplete till they get married??
Which other continent do we hear B.S like, women shouldn't talk while men discuss??
Some families still tend to will inheritance to only male children.
There are some churches that only allow male clerics and pastors, infact religions are usually sexist.
Some families only educate sons.
It's perfectly legal in Nigeria to pay men higher than female counterparts going the same job and that's the main problem.

Gender equality is not about doing the same jobs, it's about educating women to have the right to choose what jobs the want.
It's not supposed to be about bullying men, it's about breaking the gender glass ceiling.

We have a black US President in America doesn't mean racism has magically disappared, does this mean that the Jesse Jacksons should relax?? It only means it's harder to prove that you've been discriminated against on basis of your ethnicity.

Even the UK still has feminists?? Why?? To make sure there's pressure on the society to move towards the politically correct society.
Nigeria still has a looong way to go.

Terry tha Rapman is the prolly the most stupid bumlicker I've ever seen on the mic
This is Jimmy's Jump-off not 'Record Deal Friday' for goodness' sake.

And what's his obsession with Ruggedman??

All these one track every ten years rappers sef . . .

rapjunkie:
Seconded.

IMO, his best work can be heard between 1996 - 2002. 'infinite' the ' slimshady lp' and 'MMLP' and the numerous mixtapes and collabos he featured on. After 2002 he loses it for me. His rapping voice begins to change, which is quite annoying and he starts to take himself too seriously.

I was a proper stan back in the day but when i bought the ' eminem show' there was something missing. I hardly listened to the album and have gone off him since. I still regularly bump his pre 2002 stuff but i wont even bother to get relapse if 'we made you' is anything to go by.

It was quite disappointing to see the video and realise that this was a 'stick to formula and make money' creative effort. . . . .plus he looks drawn and gaunt, like he's on crack.

The funniest part is the fact that he's trying to use this shock effect to get attention
This whole serial killer thingy is just Dre's genius . . . 'they've been waiting for five years, let's try to give them a fake-MMLP, they'll accept anything'
Little wonder a PC-game's coming straight with this

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=269277.msg3881785#msg3881785 date=1242611523]Nobody does it better than Eminem.
If u now think Eminem ran out of rhymes because he switched styles then i will end this debate.
Flow-wise, this album is a classic. Lyrics, rhyme-patterns and delivery even takes it on MMLP's pedestal.
Gosh. . . . . U have listened to Em's freestyle aerobics countless times and you still believe he suddenly went phbbbbbbt?[/quote]I'm just saying Eminem has flopped on this one . . . It's a well known fact

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=269277.msg3881785#msg3881785 date=1242611523]Kanye compared to Eminem??
This is now getting redundant!!!![/quote]I'm not comparing them, I'm just laughing at what you said bout stretching rhymes being the mark of a true lyricist.
By your own standard, Kanye is better than Jay-Z and Nas. Why??

'He meant "regularly" but slanted it to rhyme with "regular day"
These are the indices of a good lyricist. Something Jigga and Nas can never match.'- Sauron

Rolling Stones?? Are you having a laugh??
Those idiots make a living from kissing Eminem's bum.
They gave the Eminem show four stars . . . . What more can I say??

Ibime:
Only immature minds would like Eminem's new release. . . . . Sauron's still stuck in a teenage mindset. . . . Eminem should evolve abeg. . . . dude is damn near 35 years old, still sounding immature . . . . the jokes aint funny no more. . . .

Also, anyone that thinks Eminem Show was a good album needs to be investigated. . . . . I am guessing that those who like Eminem Show started listening to Eminem circa 2002. If that was your first taste of Eminem, you may possibly like it, but those of us who've been listening to Em since 97 would tell you that Slim Shady LP was his best album, followed by Marshall Mathers LP. . . . he started changing his style on Marshall Mathers LP and he took it to an extreme on Eminem Show where he was more concerned about making multi-syllables fit perfectly on the beat, and less concerned about wit and good story-telling. . . . .

This is exactly what I pointed out on the other thread
He was busy using stupid words to make the multies perfect

What the Bleep is 'baleed'??

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=269277.msg3881650#msg3881650 date=1242607797]OTS is your best song on that whole album??
Eldee's listening/filtering organ has been corrupted with Lil Wayne, T-Pain and Kanye. [/quote]Eminem on T.I and Lil Wayne

I stayed up on the music, and obviously I watch TV and saw what was going on. And without naming any names, it just felt like hip-hop was going downhill. And it seemed like kinda fast. You know, in them three years, it was like everybody just cares about the hook and the beat; nobody really cares about substance. But with this new[b] T.I. album[/b], with this new Lil Wayne album of recent, it seems like things are looking a lot better now. You can appreciate Lil Wayne using different words to rhyme and actually rhyming words that you know. Or T.I., where you hear shit and you’re like Whoa, ah, I wish I would have thought of that! You know what I mean? Or you hear all the compound-syllable rhyming and all that. It just seems like now the craft is getting cared about more.”

Hiphop heads have praised Weezy's creativity, from Common to Hov, and now Eminem
Your idol is crying because he can't think quickly and you're here dissing him.