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Travel / Re: Are Foreigners Deported, Harrassed In Naija? by EloSela(f): 4:38pm On May 09, 2008
I highly doubt that there are any 'illegal' Westerners in Nigeria.

That being said, Nigeria routinely deports Nigeriens (Niger) and other African nationals from their countries using methods which can be quite humiliating so I don't think they have room to talk when countries like the UK or the US deport Nigerian nationals back to their homelands with money to start their lives again. And lets not bring up the way Nigeria deported Ghanaians in the 70s.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6387053.stm



Nigeria cracks down on migrants
Nigeria is cracking down on "illegal aliens" from neighbouring countries whom the authorities call a "nuisance".

Niger and Chad seem to have been singled out in the clampdown with thousands of their nationals packed into lorries and taken to the border.

People from Ghana, Togo, Cameroon and other West African countries have also been removed from at least eight major cities across the country.

Politicians are accused of importing "ghost voters" ahead of April polls.

"The truth is that it is because of the elections," an immigration official who did not want to be named told the BBC News website.

"You know people from Niger speak Hausa which is the language of northern Nigeria and they are Muslims. Because of this cultural affinity, it's easy for them to pretend to be Nigerians and vote in the elections," the source said.

But the official reason given for the deportations is that the illegal aliens constitute a "public nuisance and security risk".

Nigeria's Interior Minister Olu Adeniji told the BBC that "only vagabonds and those engaged in armed robbery and other illegal acts" were being targeted in the immigration sweep, but did not give any figures.

Nigerien denial

The Niger embassy in Abuja says it has received complaints about the deportations from its citizens in Abuja and other Nigerian cities.

"We don't know why the government of Nigeria is deporting citizens of Niger. We have not been given any explanations whatsoever," Dan Barma Aboubakar told the BBC News website.

Most of the "illegal aliens" are being taken to Jibia, a border community in Nigeria's north-western Katsina state.

No reason was given for the arrests. All they do is to simply ask your nationality and if you admit to being from Niger, they just order you to get on their van

Some Nigerians who were also mistaken for Nigeriens were arrested in the operation and taken to Nigeria's northern frontier and ordered to go back home to Niger.

Sanda Mamman, a Nigerien trader in the south-eastern Nigerian city of Enugu, told the BBC that 22 of his compatriots had been arrested in the clampdown.

"No reason was given for the arrests. All they do is to simply ask your nationality and if you admit to being from Niger, they just order you to get on their van," Mr Mamman said.

"If we have committed any crimes, we expect that we'd be told and charges pressed."

He said most of the people being deported had paid "all the relevant fees" and obtained "all the relevant stamps on our Ecowas [Economic Community of West African States] travel documents and residence permits".
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Politics / Re: Food Crisis In Nigeria by EloSela(f): 7:47pm On May 06, 2008
@ Poster

How dare you!!!

These people are not REAL Nigerians as they are poor, in rags and cannot fend for themselves.

Please show positive pictures of real Nigerians in their air conditioned Benzes and four storey duplexes. These are the only such images of Nigerians that we wish the outside world to see.

The majority of Nigerians live in these conditions and will be surely affected by the food crisis; however there are some Nigerians who won't. So it is best that we show those positive images instead in order to portray our country in a positive light.  . . abi? grin










Please note sarcasm
Travel / Re: Egyptian Police Shoot Nigerian Woman ! by EloSela(f): 6:56pm On May 05, 2008
A simple search in google would have brought up more information for those who wanted to verify the story. . .

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200805054134346

http://www.tribune.com.ng/05052008/news/news15.html
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 10:33am On May 03, 2008
@Big Bumper

I have already explained what social class was and what I would deemed to be classed as second class. I won't waste my time trying to explain to why I felt Dare's photo's were relevant to this thread so feel free to carry on with your mumbo jumbo as i will not try and rationale with you in future.
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 7:02am On May 03, 2008
lucabrasi:

i totally agree with you jare lol im a foreigner in britain lol im prolly more abreast about these things more than u are because im still in school and politics is actually part of my programme,seeing as u have left uni a while back but by all means check it out on google or wikipedia

You don't know me or how I live, neither have you shared my life experiences as bing born black and brought up in the UK and so . . . you are not more abreast about anything . Please stick to talking about life growing up in Lagos because you really have no idea about Black Britons. Quoting wikipedia of all places says a lot about your mindset and not in a good way. Everything you have posted in regards to a Black person's class of citizenship and life in the UK is pure hyperbole at best!

You also seem to miss the point about Dare which is that there are plenty of people like him who violate the rights of others everyday in Nigeria and get away with it just because of their elevated level of citizenship. This is opposed to others whose social status may not allow them to exercise their full social political status in Nigeria.
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 6:47am On May 03, 2008
big_bumper:

Again with all due respect, your post was in regards to Obasanjo's son social status class, and has no affiliation with the topic at hand about second-class citizen. You dragged Nigeria into the equation and class in Nigeria is determined either by occupation, wealth, net-worth, education, qualification, family backgrounds, etc.

All that buffoon was doing was to ingratiate himself with those whom he felt were in a better position than him hence his need for his "look at me I am so rich I have a servant" stance.

See you trying to behave all grown up, cool shocked

I did not 'drag' Nigeria into anything. In case it was lost on you This is a 'Nigerian' board frequented by 'Nigerians' and so if someone starts a thread about 'Nigerians' abroad being 2nd class citizens then it is only a matter of time before someone starts talking about citizenship in Nigeria.

Citizenship is all about how people are able to exercise their basic political rights around the world and especially in their own countries. In regards to the picture I posted, it is clearly obvious that there is a class issue at hand but the fact that the 'servant' was not even able to exercise his right to object to Dare posting his pic online clearly shows that his citizenship is not perhaps seen as the same level of as Dare's.

If this servant had wanted to bring a lawsuit against Dare, would he be able to exercise his right as a citizen to do so? No, but in America or Britain he would have regardless of colour or race.

So all of you people screaming about how you are first class citizens in Nigeria, think about what you are able to do in Nigeria as a so-called first class citizen before you start looking at other countries. In Nigeria, ones political and basic rights are abused every day like this 'Servant'; the reason why many of you continue to run out of the country in droves.
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 11:46pm On May 02, 2008
lucabrasi:

i don't want to keep banging on about this equal rights n sturvs issue but ill repeat myself again,u might have the same passport as they have but you definitely don't have the same rights,

With all due respect, you are merely a visitor in a foreign country and I think that it is highly ludicrous of you to purport to know what it means to be born Black and up in Britain. Further more, I know my rights and I don't need the likes of you, a foreigner, telling me what they are and if and how they supposedly differ from a person who so happens to have a different skin tone to myself.

And as for Dare, the fact that no one really blinked an eyelid in Nigeria shows that Big Oga always wins. grin
Politics / Re: British Airways Regrets Maltreatment Of Nigerians by EloSela(f): 6:19pm On May 02, 2008
Jamco45:

One thing I miss about Naija is the fact that people will stand up for you on the street (lol apart from when guns are involved). I still believe some or all of the 136 passengers deserve an apology. What if you were on that flight minding your business and going for an important meeting the next day?

Oh pleeeeeeese,

How many times have people witnessed policemen beating up innocent individuals in Nigeria and have done nothing about it? Who came to aid of the teacher who was stripped naked, beaten and burnt to death by her own students? Please don't come in here exaggerating shit. We are all 'Nigerians' at the end of the day and so there is no need to fantasize!
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 4:27pm On May 02, 2008
This thread is about class of citizenship and you have now jumped to start talking about class in general.

If you must know class does not determine how one is treated as a citizen in their own country but in Nigeria it does.

The richest man in Britain does not speak like the Queen and I am sure that their palates are not the same either and he would be considered an upper class, as would his children. However, someone like me would have the same right as his children because we both have the same citizenship. Anyone can adopt a certain type of etiquette and claim to be of a certain class, as class, whether it be upper, middle or lower is not an official designation like citizenship.

Class and citizenship are two different entities and every citizen in Britain, America and most western nations can freely exercise this right regardless of whatever class or colour they are considered to be. Can you say the same for Nigerians?. . . . no!

That is why a teacher can be beaten and burnt to death by her students. If that teacher had been a rich person's daughter or wife, the killers would have been rounded up and put in front of a firing squad.


That is why Big Bully Dare Obasanjo can boldly walk into the room of another grown man without permission, snap his picture and publish it on the world wide web for all and sundry to see.
to him as his servant.
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 2:49pm On May 02, 2008
This is not an individual thing but Nigerian culture through and through. . .I also think that bringing up accents and the certain foods that people eat as as way to classify who is 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen is incredibly stupid. . .no offence intended but it is. lol!
Travel / Re: BA Explains Their Actions. by EloSela(f): 2:42pm On May 02, 2008
VOR:

I'd hardly call this an apology, it sounds more like an explanation as to what happened.
No where do they accept they were to blame for the incident.In addition their "explantion"
states that 64 of the passengers originally off-loaded later re-boarded. I was made to believe
that this wasn't the case.

Who is telling the truth?

I agree, more of an explanation than an apology. I am sure BA will have official flight records and a report from the UK police to back up their story if it comes to that.
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 11:49am On May 02, 2008
There is a link in my post above. . .here it is again.

http://grandioseparlor.com/2007/04/a-presidential-servant/

If you read the posts that follow, Dare tries to justify why he felt he had the right to take that man's picture it his decrepit state and post it online for the world to see.
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 10:38am On May 02, 2008
Is the man in the pic below a second class citizen. . . I say no. I am not even sure if he would qualify to enter into the 10th class of citizenship, despite being a Nigerian in his own country and employed by the then President of Nigeria.



Which class of citizen is this man in Nigeria?

“One of the servants sitting down on the bed of his one room apartment. You can see the entire apartment in this shot.” - Dare Obasanjo

As you can see, this poor soul was not even allowed to freshen up after getting up from bed before Big Oga’s son busted into his quarters and snapped this pic so he could show of to his oyinbo friends on the world wide web that his father has ‘servants’

Further more Big Oga, did not even see fit to buy the man a decent bed, despite this man being a Nigerian citizen in Nigeria, never mind a human being like Big Oga himself.


First class citizen!  grin My Fada has money! grin

One can surely imagine the uproar that would follow if people like the Bush Twins or Prince William and Harry took pictures of the servants in The White House or Buckingham Palace to show off on their personal web sites, never mind if the Servants looked as pitiful as the one above. Of course that would be unheard off but in Nigeria if you if you are the offspring of a Big Oga then one can basically get away with murder.

A society where one is considered less than human, never mind a citizen in any class, because one doesn’t have the right amount of money, is a society that needs a drastic revolution before it can progress.

Please stop worrying about the class of citizenship in other countries and sort out your own first.

http://grandioseparlor.com/2007/04/a-presidential-servant/
Travel / Re: Nigerians Overseas: Second-class Citizens? by EloSela(f): 10:12am On May 02, 2008
This thread stinks of sour grapes. . . grin

I have a British passport by birth and I am proud of it. I am in no way treated like a second class citizen in Britain and neither do I feel like one.  cool

How many Nigerians, with green passports can say the same about life in Nigeria?

Of course if your father is a big Oga, one may get preferential treatment as the ‘Big man’ culture is a staple in Nigerian society.

In Nigeria, if a poor man in his beaten down car jams Big Oga in his Mercedes on the street, the ensuing crowd will say to poor man:

“You de craze? Why you de drive anyhow? See de person wey you jam?  You no know say ee get money? Oloshi!”

If Big Oga in his brand new Mercedes jams a poor man in his ordinary car, the crowd will say to the poor man:

“Your fada! Why you no comot for road? See as you scatter oga moto anyhow, Oloshi!”

Who is the second class citizen in the scenario above?  grin
Politics / Re: Boycott British Airways - See What Happenned To Your Brother by EloSela(f): 10:14pm On Apr 30, 2008
@Sly
Well this incident happened a month ago in front of 135 passengers yet we have only had a tickle of information through which is strange. Where are the other accounts? There was one dodgy account by some bloke called Dion or other on the travel section but then again this person claims that BA delivered a Deportee stone cold dead to Abuja just a week before, yet where are the news reports on that?

I really do think Omotade said more than he is admitting and I suppose we will find out in the court case if there is once ot if this case escalates any further than the farce it is already.
Politics / Re: Boycott British Airways - See What Happenned To Your Brother by EloSela(f): 9:51pm On Apr 30, 2008
[size=20pt]Cases of people thrown of flights, non blacks![/size]


UK News
4NI National News
13 May 2004
[size=18pt]Passengers removed from Flybe flight[/size]
A party of 30 business travellers were escorted off a plane before it took off from Glasgow to Belfast City last night.


Following allegations of serious disturbances and drunken antics on the aircraft shortly before take-off, police removed 30 passengers from the aircraft, a scheduled Flybe flight which was due to leave Glasgow at around 8.30pm on Wednesday bound for Belfast.

On top of the alleged rowdy behaviour, the captain had passengers removed after smelling alcohol in the main cabin.

Those thought to be involved remained in Glasgow, while the 17 passengers left aboard were flown to Belfast International Airport after a three-hour delay.

A statement from Flybe said: "The captain discerned a strong smell of alcohol in the passenger cabin, and in the interests of passenger safety and comfort, he off-loaded the aircraft.

"Given the subsequent late departure of the flight it was diverted to Belfast international where passengers were bussed to Belfast City Airport on arrival.

"Passenger safety is paramount in all of Flybe's operations and an investigation is under way to ascertain the full circumstances of this incident.

"The 17 passengers who travelled should contact customer services in Exeter to seek a refund."
http://www.4ni.co.uk/news.asp?id=29088



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Praying passenger removed from flight
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24191236/

Orthodox Jewish man ignored flight crew instructions during religious ritual

updated 8:22 p.m. ET April 17, 2008

NEW YORK - A passenger who left his seat to pray in the back of a plane before it took off, ignoring flight attendants' orders to return, was removed by an airport security guard, a witness and the airline said.

The Orthodox Jewish man, who wore a full beard, a black hat and a long black coat, stood near the lavatories and began saying his prayers while the United Airlines jet was being boarded at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday night, fellow passenger Ori Brafman said.

When flight attendants urged the man, who was carrying a religious book, to take his seat, he ignored them, Brafman said. Two friends, who were seated, tried to tell the attendants that the man couldn't stop until his prayers were over in about 2 minutes, he said.
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"He doesn't respond to them, but his friends explain that once you start praying you can't stop," said Brafman, who was seated three rows away.

When the man finally stopped praying, he explained that he couldn't interrupt his religious ritual and wasn't trying to be rude. But the attendants summoned a guard to remove him, said Brafman, a writer who had been visiting New York to talk to publishers.

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Discuss: What do you think about praying on the plane?

The plane, Flight 9 to San Francisco, took off without the man. It landed at its destination as scheduled, Brafman said by telephone from his home there.

Robin Urbanski, a spokeswoman for United Airlines, a subsidiary of UAL Corp. with headquarters in Chicago, confirmed the man was taken off the plane and put on another flight Thursday morning.

Urbanksi said flights cannot depart if all passengers are not in their seats, which risks a delay, and it is important that passengers listen to the instructions of the flight crew.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs area airports, and the Transportation Safety Administration, which handles airport security, said Thursday they weren't involved in the incident.


[size=18pt]Unruly passenger removed from Houston flight[/size]
Friday, April 25, 2008 | 7:38 AM


HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A Continental flight from Houston had to make an unexpected stop because of an unruly passenger.

The express jet left Houston last night for Palm Springs. One of the 46 passengers is said to have been [b]verbally abusive [/b]with a flight attendant and other passengers. The plane landed in Midland and officials took the man off the flight.

The plane made it to Palm Springs around midnight after only a 30 minute delay.



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hairyduck

4/25/08 8:13 AM EDT
He was probably pissed when he found he had to pay to use the toilet. And the toilet paper, by the sheet. You know there are all sorts of new fees, taxes, etc. Mark As Violation

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ggmsmolly

4/25/08 2:52 PM EDT
My sister is a retired Continental Flight Attendant and that is one thing I learned early on, don't interfer with the flight crews job. They carry allot of clout. Mark As Violation

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gigante

4/25/08 4:59 PM EDT
People are generally on their worst behavior when flying. Mark As Violation

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geraldwjamesjr

4/26/08 1:13 AM EDT
If the man was creating a disturbance, I can see how they would be justified in removing him from the plane. But it didn't mention whether or not the man was arrested. I am curious to hear more. Mark As Violation

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=6102884



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Crying Child and Parents Removed From Flight
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AirTran Ejected 3-Year-Old and Her Parents After Tantrum
Jan. 23, 2007



Every parent has dealt with a child having a tantrum and causing embarrassment at the worst times -- in a grocery store, in a restaurant, and at weddings.
crying family
Elly Kulesza, 3, and her parents, Julie and Gerald, were kicked off an AirTran Airways flight from Florida to their Worcester, Mass., home because Elly would not stop crying.
(ABC News)

For a Massachusetts mom and dad, however, their toddler's tantrum cost them their flight home.

On Jan. 14, 3-year-old Elly Kulesza and her parents, Julie and Gerald, were kicked off an AirTran Airways flight from Florida to their Worcester, Mass., home because Elly would not stop crying.

Elly, who had been a model passenger on the flight to Florida four days earlier, began to cry uncontrollably once she got on the plane, throwing a temper tantrum on the floor.

AirTran employees demanded that the Kuleszas calm down their child. When Elly didn't stop crying, the crew banned the Kuleszas from flying for 24 hours. Later, AirTran offered an apology to the family along with a refund on their tickets.
Related
Should Crying Kids Be Kicked Off Planes?

"As we have an obligation to the 112 other passengers onboard the flight to operate the flight on time," AirTran said in a statement, "we had to make an operational decision to ask the Kulesza party to deplane so the flight could depart."

Passengers Sympathetic, Unlike Crew, Parents Say

On "Good Morning America," the Kuleszas insisted that their toddler wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary.

"I don't know what happened. No one can tell when something like this is going to happen. She had a great morning, but then she got on the plane and she started to cry," Julie Kulesza said.

"She's like the typical 3-year-old. She has her moments, but overall she's a very, very good child."

The Kuleszas said that unlike the AirTran crew, the passengers on the flight were sympathetic to their situation.

"I jokingly turned around and asked the three gentlemen behind me, 'Aren't you glad you got these seats?" Julie said. "Another passenger offered up a lollipop to try and calm her down."

Despite AirTran's apology and offer of a complimentary flight, the Kuleszas don't plan to fly with the airline anytime soon.

"We'll pass on that," Gerald Kulesza said. "After that, I told them I'd never fly with them again."


I agree with Kobo in that Omotade's case was not a race issue but I also don't think he has grounds for a customer service issue. Had the guy minded his own beeswacks then he would made the wedding as planned. Granted, I wasn't on the flight but he was obviously put his foot in it by bigging himself up to the police/immigration officials when they were trying to do their job.

A year ago in Somerfield, I witnessed the police trying to detain a shoplifter and this young black guy tried to interfere under some misguided notion that he was doing his bit for the 'cause'. The poor sod ended up getting himself arrested along with the shoplifter. smh.

I feel that all these calls for Boycott without knowing the real facts is making us Nigerians look extremely foolish, like our image is not bad enough already. The latest joke is the NBA trying to sue BA. They are claiming that Omotade is a Nigerian citizen when he is British.

So now we have the NBA trying to sue a BRITISH company on behalf of a BRITISH citizen for an incident that took place on BRITISH soil. . .ridiculous!
Travel / Re: Funny Experiences On Your First Trip To Naija After Being Abroad For A While by EloSela(f): 12:04pm On Apr 29, 2008
The first time I landed in Nigeria, after an 8-year break, I was happy but I couldn't believe how much the country had changed since I had been away. You see when I was there before, I had lived in a quiet town of Sapele and so to land in a fast and uncoordinated city like Lagos was quite a shock to the system.

I couldn’t believe the amount of children running in and out of traffic trying to sell bread and other items to car passengers. Then there were the cripples who were begging for money, also running in and out of traffic…that was heartbreaking to see. The worst thing though, was the lingering stench of the open sewers and gutters. I found it hard to let anything pass through my mouth for a few days because of that. I saw someone’s rotting leg on the Lagos Benin road and another dead body in a busy built up area…I think it was at Ojota.

The brunt of staying at my sister’s house in Ketu was alright although that was somewhat alleviated by the fact that I was just happy to be with my nieces and nephew whom I hadn’t met before. After my first bath, my skin reddened and puckered up in itchy rashes so much so that I had to boil each bucket of water and lace it with dettol in order to take my bath. The nights where they would take the light were unbearable. Sometimes there wouldn’t be any light for at least 2 or 3 days and then they would bring it back and take it again within the hour.

I also couldn’t get used to old Mama’s referring to me as Auntie, didn’t like the open abuse and fights in the market and didn’t like the fact that the buses did not stop but expected you do jump off once you reached your destination.

When I went home to Sapele, only the main street, Okpe Road had light but then it was so dim that it wasn’t worth having it on. Sapele had not changed at all…it fact things had gotten worst.

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Travel / Re: Fake Visas: Pregnant Nigerian Women, Others, Languish In British Jails by EloSela(f): 11:24am On Apr 29, 2008
Why are so many Nigerians willing to risk their freedom to get into England? grin
Politics / Re: 'a World Of Casual Racism' Exposed At British Airways by EloSela(f): 11:21am On Apr 29, 2008
Lip service at it's best.

My view still stands on this.

Omotade had no right to interfere in a court ordered deportation order.

The majority of Nigerian passengers are rude and uncouth. They need to learn how to respect themselves first if they would like others to respect them.

The nerve of some of you to think that because an oyibo/journalist newspaper has come out in defence of some your views, every Nigerian is also going to follow suit stance.
Politics / Re: Nba Sues British Airways For Maltreatment Of Nigerian by EloSela(f): 11:13am On Apr 29, 2008
This is so bloody stupid and proves once again that the Nigerian authorities have nothing better to do than to blow a lot of hot air and gas.

Upon all the wahala facing Nigerians in Nigeria not to mention the ones currently incarcerated around the world, including nearly 2000 criminals languishing in UK jails which the Nigeria government refuses to acknowledge, it is Omotade, A BRITISH citizen, who they want to make noise for.

Unbelievable!
Crime / Re: Baby Rapist Sentenced To 1 Year In Prison, Gets N3000 Fine Option by EloSela(f): 10:37pm On Apr 23, 2008
Only in Nigeria. One can be a mass murderer at get off scot free. . . for enough naira.
Business / Re: Yar’adua Orders Investigation Of Maltreatment Of Nigerians By Foreign Airlines by EloSela(f): 9:58pm On Apr 23, 2008
LASIEFAIRE:

Elosela
what many in here are trying to say is that Yaradua is doing the right thing even though it might not be the most pressing or most important. Yes, there are other more important issues we hope that Yar'dua will address those in due time. Sometimes we need to cut a slack for the government, commend them when they do something right, while still making them aware of other issues. But totally critisizing the government for everything even the good, seems to me to be something that drives a regressive progress.


Yar Adua, God bless him, his heart is in the right place but his priorities are misplaced.

If the focus is now on how Nigerians are treated in other countries then as I said, there are at least 46 Nigerians currently being incarcerated in another black country, Barbados, yet no sign of the Nigerian government coming to rescue them. Then there are the many incidences of Nigerians being treated like dogs by the Chinese in their factories and even imprisoned. . .yet no investigation.

Go to Italy and see how Nigerian ladies who have been tricked by madams to leave Nigeria and are been beaten and raped. Are they not Nigerian citizens? Where is the investigation?

Abi is it because these particular Nigerians don't have money to fly BA, that they don't even warrant an intervention by their own Government??
Business / Re: Yar’adua Orders Investigation Of Maltreatment Of Nigerians By Foreign Airlines by EloSela(f): 9:40pm On Apr 23, 2008
The whole thing is totally stupid!

I am sure that a whole president of Nigeria should have more pressing issues to deal with than a bunch of Nigerians that were thrown off an international flight for misbehaving. This is on par with the time that Obasanjo appeared on the BBCs 'Come Dancing'. . .LOL! grin

What's more how is he so sure that all the passengers on that flight were all Nigerians? Mr Omotade, who was arrested was a British citizen, is the Nigerian government going to try and tell the British how to conduct the law and treat it's own citizens?

In the meantime there are at least 46 Nigerians who are currently being incarcerated in Barbados after being left stranded there by Ghanaian airlines, yet where is the investigation and help from the Nigerian government to bring them home?

Nigerians are being maltreated every day in Chinese factories and being imprisoned in the same China for minor infractions and misdemeanors such as not having papers or walking the street without papers yet where is the investigation?

In short, Nigerians are being maltreated all over the world, yet it is the ones that have misbehaved on an international flight that gets the government's attention. Wonder's shall never cease! shocked

The British Government should just ban ALL direct flights from Lon-Lagos jare and let us hear word
Travel / Re: Why Do People 'Disrespect' London? by EloSela(f): 7:18pm On Apr 23, 2008
LASIEFAIRE:

By who - First hear for me-



Don't you read. . . or even google? I did say that some had touted and here is one of my sources and there are a host of others online if you care to take a look.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/27/business/worldbusiness/27london.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=a71491dec620088b&ex=1319601600&partner=rssnyt
Travel / Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by EloSela(f): 3:58pm On Apr 23, 2008
Is life really better? I suppose that that is a subjective question.

It is better for me, but then again there are just some creature comforts that I can not live without. I like having constant power in my home as well as running water to be able to do basic things like flushing the toilet at will.

I do not like walking around and seeing beggars with small children on the street, darting in and out of traffic. I do not like to see cripples having to fend for themselves and I do not like seeing dead bodies on the road while people conduct their daily business around without a care in the world.

But then again, each to their own. cool

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Travel / Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row by EloSela(f): 3:36pm On Apr 23, 2008
Siena:

Especially lack of her own airline, TOH! cheesy grin

Man, you're really putting your stance out there aren't you? grin I don't what it was but I kind of got the impression that you were one of those types that always liked to sit on the fence when it came to topics like these. . .
Travel / Re: Relax Strict Visa Conditions, Bankole Tells Uk by EloSela(f): 3:32pm On Apr 23, 2008
LondonCool:

What aspect of the strict UK Immigration visa conditions does the Speaker want the UK to waive for Nigerians travelling for legitimate business ? The same visa conditions apply to all Visa-Nationals all over the world.

Exactly! It is the self-centre mentality that irks me to no end. Instead of them to investigate if such visa restrictions are only applied when it comes to Nigerians, they well readily assume that it is just so they can make some noise for the sole sake of it! shocked
Travel / Re: Why Do People 'Disrespect' London? by EloSela(f): 3:27pm On Apr 23, 2008
I don’t know why people diss London or tend to have severe issues with those of us who tend to big it up. I can only imagine that such resentment is borne from some insecurities which have not yet come to fore on their part.

As for me, London is one of the best cities in the world, in fact it has been labelled at the ‘capital of the world’ by many. An ‘advanced Lagos’? Whoever said that must be smokin’ something good and I want some! lol.

I personally believe that Lagos can not come close to London in terms of technological or sociological advancement in a million years. For starters, the attitude of some Lagosians, where everyone is out for themselves without a care for their neighbour or fellow human beings is disgusting. Then you have the lack of basic amenities such as running clean water and electricity which always seem to be forever out of reach to the inhabitants of Lagos and the rest of Nigeria.

The number of dead bodies and dogs that I have seen lying around in Lagos should say a lot about the mentality of individuals in that city alone. Then you have the beggars with small children hanging around and the cripples who are treated worst than dogs because of their predicament.

I was reading an article the other day about a Nollywood actress who caused a car crash that ended up killing a doctor. This doctor could have been saved, but unfortunately that nasty Nigerian mentality that I despise so much reared its ugly head. The relatives or other of the actress arrived at the scene and just carried her away to the hospital while leaving the poor man in his crushed car to die. What’s more, the lady was given just seven years in jail for causing the death or ordered to pay N100,000 to escape jail.

In such a society progress will be hard and long if at all and I really think that Lagosians should think about how they can mend such issues in their society before trying to compare themselves with an ancient, historical and world class capital city of London. grin

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Travel / Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row by EloSela(f): 10:30pm On Apr 22, 2008
Rlst84sale:

I would not be surprised if we get to find out that EloSela is one white british . . .

Na wire o! grin grin grin grin grin
Travel / Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row by EloSela(f): 8:28am On Apr 19, 2008
Siena:

Oma ghare? wink



Ay!. . .Doh oniovo me!
Travel / Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row by EloSela(f): 6:10pm On Apr 18, 2008
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@Elo Sela

No mind them.They will soon tell you its still racism,that most of the passengers are Scots while BA is dominated by English people.So its racism by the English against the Scots.

Abi ooo!

Siena:

Lol. cool

Ah you laughed! grin. . .At least you are not uptight and frigid like some around here! Doh sar! tongue
Travel / Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row by EloSela(f): 4:45pm On Apr 18, 2008
Another companion piece. . .For those who get my sense of humour, for those who don't, go and jump of a very high cliff! grin

UK News
4NI National News
13 May 2004

[size=18pt]Passengers removed from Flybe flight[/size]

A party of 30 business travellers were escorted off a plane before it took off from Glasgow to Belfast City last night.


Following allegations of serious disturbances and drunken antics on the aircraft shortly before take-off, police removed 30 passengers from the aircraft, a scheduled Flybe flight which was due to leave Glasgow at around 8.30pm on Wednesday bound for Belfast.

On top of the alleged rowdy behaviour, the captain had passengers removed after smelling alcohol in the main cabin.

Those thought to be involved remained in Glasgow, while the 17 passengers left aboard were flown to Belfast International Airport after a three-hour delay.

A statement from Flybe said: "The captain discerned a strong smell of alcohol in the passenger cabin, and in the interests of passenger safety and comfort, he off-loaded the aircraft.

"Given the subsequent late departure of the flight it was diverted to Belfast international where passengers were bussed to Belfast City Airport on arrival.

"Passenger safety is paramount in all of Flybe's operations and an investigation is under way to ascertain the full circumstances of this incident.

"The 17 passengers who travelled should contact customer services in Exeter to seek a refund."


Who said that the Brit's wouldn't have cleared the plane had all those on board Mr Omo's flight, been their own citizens

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