₦airaland Forum

Ikwokrikwo:
Bro I started a thread on this topic 2 days ago but it was deleted.
Trust me, it isn't about Buhari or elections, it is about boko haram.
It is either those who usually carry out these riots are busy in Sambisa and other BH camps, or northerners have seen so much blood via boko haram that they have finally realised that violence and extremism doesn't pay!

I am aware of that.I was one of possibly 18 people(if that many) who saw that thread and tried to comment before omenka asked their nairaland special agents to act and I made this post as a result;

https://www.nairaland.com/2097596/charlie-hebdo-nairaland-political-double#29878199

Usually when the apc mods don't like how your posts and do not want to scrap it, they just throw the topic somewhere in the nairaland Atlantic ocean which could be anywhere even in the romance section.
Which is what they have done with this thread as they did with the one I referenced.
An earlier similar thread was electronically scrubbed.

JUSTUSADECHE:
even if they will react it will be after the elections.
In kaduna,while we were expecting their protest last week,a friend said they will not react because they dont want to negatively affect their chances of taking back power.
True to his words(and thank God),no reaction.SO SUPPRISE because its first in history atleast here in kaduna.
sincerely,am begining to suspect all this northern-violence,its truely political.
if this their candidate losses the election i will advice churches to tighten their security

YOU DEY MAKE ME VEX,DID YOU NOT READ MY EARLIER POST?
THEY SUPPRESSED THEIR BLOOD THIRST SO AS NOT TO DAMAGE buhari's CHANCES.
OH AND YES THE VIOLENCE ALL OF THEM HOWEVER INCIDENTAL ARE ALL POLITICAL.
I KNOW PEOPLE IN KANO AND KADUNA WHO WERE MOVING AROUND WITH ARMS IN THEIR VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATED THE SECTARIAN VIOLENCE BLOW BACK FROM THE CHARLIE INCIDENT.People NOW WAIT AND ANTICIPATE THEIR ERUPTIONS AND PLAN TO DEAL DEATH TO AS MANY HOODLUMS WHO OFFER THEMSELVES INADVERTENTLY (THINKING THEY WILL FIND UNSUSPECTING DEFENSELESS VICTIMS).
A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE DISAPPOINTED THE FANATICS DID NOT RESPOND TO THEIR BASE NATURE.THEY WERE WAITING TO EXECUTE AS MANY RELIGIOUS DOGS AS THEY COULD FIND.
IN ANYCASE, THEY ARE WAITING FOR THE ELECTIONS TOO.

enzony:
This your comment is quite shameful, wholly ludicrous and absurd. You read that APC has carried out a campaign in the same stadium.

Hmmmm, does it mean that APC supporters are under a spell

That you are just realizing this now almost makes me wonder if you were under a spell.
ACN just used the same location for a rally less than 11 days ago and no irs under repairs........and some "progressives" see nothing wrong in that.....they are certainly under a spell...

Lildreezy:
so in ur mind now ur life is straight abi



ode

Do not be quick to abuse/insult.What I meant by my post was that he would never answer that question you posed to him.Mainly because he is biased against the current administration.
You for just read weytin I post well.
Enjoy.

barcanista:
I brought Buhari? Obviously you are blind or lack comprehension that you couldn't see the deception of the OP that you support base on your bigotry. You guys keep talking about "his" statement, "what statement" did Buhari make in 2000 and 2011? You are suffering from excessive brainwashing and you need to watch it. If you can't task your leaders to do their job, its your business. As for GEJ and BH, I aint a believer of conspiracy theory like you. "Lubbish"

YIMU; whatever floats your boat really. sha don't make the mistake of being in core northern lungus in Kano or kaduna or other similar places in the north when they finally decide to react to the cartoons.If you are really an ijaw man as you claim (a claim that increasingly shows itself to be false) I ( and i suspect a lot of southerners too ) would not not shed a tear for whatever becomes of you.

Oh and "Gerrat"

timmydavids:
I think we should all forget about all this certificate distractions and focus on rellevant issues towards the election and wat each aspirant can bring to the table.

You run a company and as you are about to hire me,I tell you that even though I am well qualified and have work references to back up my claim,I can't produce my certificate(s).Would you hire me especially when the company bylaws (read constitution) demands it.

barcanista:
So it was Buhari that led the extremists to attack innocent people or they got instruction from him? What role exactly did Buhari play? Why not take your ethnic bigotry to boko haram or ISIS? Must you relate your insecurities to Buhari? Why buhari and not Adamu Muazu or Namadi Sambo? Are they not Northerners? Which one is core and floating northerner again? Bros, abeg you should channel your ander to the government that fails to protect you/and arrest the perpetrators. If you can't hold your government to task, please pick up arms and fight for your right or stfu

Funny thing is you brought Buhari into this discussion and now that we are talking about Buhari, I make bold to remind you (seeing as you get AMNESIA anytime Buhari matter comes up) a lot of families can trace the loss of their loved ones in Kaduna directly to his statements/action's.Sharia riots 2000 post election riots, kaduna/kano 2011.
Deny that all you want that is year own,those who feel the loss/pain know who they connect to that loss in their minds.
You think we are all babies born in the year 2000 abi with no knowledge on the reality of Nigerian.
You think it's everybody you can sell "boko haram is Jonathan's doing" bullsh.it to?

barcanista:
What concerns Buhari and Charlie whatever? Is Buhari a Frenchman? How does the charlie whatever affect Nairaland and Nigeria? Is seun a frenchman? We have our issues to contend with, the french should take care of theirs.

How did the Danish cartoons of Mohammed affect Nigeria?
How did the commencement of military action by the US against Afghanistan /Iraq affect Nigeria ?
How did Pastor Terry in the US burning the Koran affect Nigeria ?
How did that movie about Mohammed being a ped and bandit affect Nigeria ?
How did?
How did ?
How did ?
How did ?
How did.............,,,,,......?

Answer
People DIED,INNOCENT DEFENSELESS UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE,MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN,NON-CORE NORTHERNERS,CHRISTIANS,SOUTHERNERS ALL BRUTALITY MURDERED BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE IN NORTHERN NIGERIA FELT THAT THEIR RELIGION HAD BEEN INSULTED.

GBTYO:
I made a thread about it when the event was unfolding.

The thread was hidden and I was summarily banned by that ram malctunji.

This site is rubbish

Someone asked yesterday why the north has not as they are want to do,flared up in protest and asked if it was because;
*the usual suspects are right now busy in their new responsibilities as boko haram terrorists killing and maiming
**the northern elite are so focused on retrieving "their presidency" and cannot afford to allow their imams and those ready tools of mayhem( almajiri foot soldiers " , "pour sand sand for their fura".
***All of the above.

I fully expect the likes of omenka,maclatunji,mynd44 and their ilk to do as they did yesterday.

! first hide my comment and others similar to it
!! Then lock the thread after a while
!!!Following an "appeal" from say omenka who will then claiming that the tread is harmful to the current political environment(read ACN Prospects ),the OP and possibly myself will then be banned ,if they are feeling magnanimous ,the ban will be in effect ,till the end of the elections, otherwise 3years.
!!!!Finally all traces of the topic will be scrubbed electronically,and the topic/thread will never have existed.(very CIA ish).

As someone who had spent more than half my life in the north, this is the first time a trigger issue for wanton senseless sectarian violence against non-core northerners ,Christians and southerners is failing to ignite.Whilst some will call that good news,it just confirms what we (the survivors of countless such incidents in the north for the past two and a half decades) have always known and asserted "the elite of the core north have always been in the know about each and every case of sectarian violence and in most cases sanction it or oppose it depending on how it suits their political stance at the time".

Lildreezy:
oga, his office the social media, he ain't a front liner.



av u seen that they were truelly on top of it? check the thread on FP... www.nairaland.com/2094986/nigerian-defence-headquarters-releases-pictures

[size=3pt]#Ifehansaumakeibendlikecrayfish[/size]

chadnezzar0worl:
Bullshit! Mr Leave the woman out of this! She was only exercising her civil right! And the general sounded partisan! Of course everybody who is not PDP is anti state! And every State apparatus is Partisan! See how low our politicians have politicized everything, including failure is politicized, and logic and contrary views are seen as an aberration!

Bro we meet at this arena for the first time so imma let you off this one time.Next time..........
I no send you bro,I go hammer you.
Happy new year.How business.We have to talk soon.

iyobs7:
Nigerian army and their stupi.d.ity, files like these are meant to be classified... Mstcheeww lubbish

You can't blame them ever since this boko haram issue became a political weapon in the hands of the opposition,the army has become the butt of political attacks that have seriously damaged it more than anything boko haram has done.
As a result military engagements,military capture of terrorist operatives,military procurements and other such matters which should be national security affairs are now in the open domain.

So the defense head quarters spokesman was fully in the rights when he told Madam Oby off that they the military were "on top of the situation".
He got pissed by her pedantic and shallow statements when he was already busy with the business of dealing with boko haram in biu long before Mrs. Know it all made her twitter post.
As an engineer, I absolutely understand the Generals barely contained contempt ozzing from his responces to her.
"
Something goes wrong and while you are in the middle of fixing the problem,some good for nothing KNOW NOTHING piece of shiit comes pontificating with a song and dance about the systems failure you are well on your way to completely rectifying.You feel like if that POS was a fly you could swath....."

callmenow:
You were not there. I was there. He stood before standing room only audience a received a 20 minutes ovation/applause. His speech was a tour de force. Lagos will be well if this impressive man wins. Tukur was there, with other achievers.

I believe you because I have heard him talk a number of times.
As for his speech I believe he did a very Unnigerian thing,he saw the future and he called it as honestly as he saw it.Most other politicians will just brag and lie or act like they saw/know nothing about that coming difficulty.
Most of his detractors on this thread are seizing upon one statement (which is true by the way) out of the entire speech he gave and are are DELIBERATELY misrepresenting the context of his statement.
I would be nice if you could post a YouTube video of the event and his speech in it's entirety.That would shut these small minds up real good.

rickkid:
TKO

I concur.

berem:
Good to know that Noblezone didn't blame Buhari for the killing of Ndi Igbo during the biafran war this time around.

Ohh no he did his part,he fulfilled his qota of dead ndibo.

barcanista:
The Deed has been done! Let's move on and elect Muhammadu Buhari as President

See how easily ya"all glossed the issue over in your comments.If this blatant falsehood (actually latest incident by the APC) had been a PDP issue here,you would have been in a big mast.urbation frenzy,talking about how the PDP is a party of lies.
Its a new year.....you and you ilk need to Change and I don't mean this change ya all are braying about.
Happy new year.

NgeneUkwenu:
As a religious fanatic who hates anything Islam, he believes Israel is a Christian State while Palestine is a Muslim State!

SayNoTo Christianization of Nigeria


#TeamChange!

If you have ever claimed to be Ibo then you lied by this post are you..For decades, previous Nigerian heads of state of who were Muslim, hobnobbed with characters in and from the Islamic world,how many Christians complained?

nkpommpko:
this gun has a granade luncher. And can release 800 bullets in one minute and just weighs 5kg when loaded, your wife can fire one and hold your children with the order hand.

Some people should try to reason a bit.Because a rifle can discharge 700 plus rounds a minute does not mean a soldier carrying the fire arm can actually carry 700 rounds of ammo.
The gun cartridge can my be hold 35-45 rounds,most soldiers carry some ten cartridges' carrying more than that is unlikely.
So that indicates that if a soldier uses this weapon at the rate of fire advertised,he would find him self with no bullet to fire pretty soon.
secondly even if there were more than enough bullets/cartridges to expend, the soldiers in the heat of battle will find themselves spending more time loading bullets/changing cartridges than actual fighting.

MudRaker:
As you claimed that the NDA class Buhari graduated from could be termed a university degree so will I ask for his project paper. Other than that most staff officers (brigadiers above) are expected to attend war college before attaining the general staff level. All past and serving generals have academic publications relating to a wide subject matter from history, economics and conflict resolution.

Where is your General's publication.?

Not just those you include scientific research as well as management theories.If it wasn't for the bastardisation of our military in the years since the civil war,as well as their misadventures in the political space,we would have had a core of military technocrats scientists and intellectuals who would have competed aggressively with the nominal civil universities in innovation and development.
You only need to look at china,S.Korea and specifically Israel.Almost all of Israel's ground breaking developments in technology,management and medicine.
Even at that there have been a number of officers who have actually made strides in the technology and management theory space.I'll have to find those citations and add them later.

hifaif:
It isn't necessary for Buhari. He is not an academic. He was a soldier. Use your brain, haba.

Actually i think that spark of logic Is what He Is trying to get the individual he rebutted to achieve.To show how ridiculous his statement was I guess....

Gaucho:
We have Seen the movies; Olympus Has Fallen acted by white guy and White House Down starring Jamie Fox,a black guy. The movies shows how the "White House" was attacked by the Koreans etc. Whats the big deal if Sony filmed the "Interview" . Dont understand what the fuss is about. Its Free Country,baby!

Which country, I think you mean to say the world.

whitecat2:
That few Yoruba and other tribes got caught in the mess doesn't mean they were targeted, they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Ibos are the real and only target for the daggars this time, and will be taken care of accordingly. Ibos can't say "toro". It was used in the past and can still be used to know who is ibo.
When you plant a bomb in someone else's town, you will surely get what's coming to you. Ibos must be cut to size and restricted to their evil forest.
Where did we go wrong for ibos to call Yoruba out? Ibos of all peoples, the natural slaves. Economic refugees and pests who have no sense of belonging.
This time, not a single ibo should be allowed among humans. All ibos should be wiped out, and the shaky niger bridge pulled down so no ibo will be able to cross back into the west and north they hate so much but can't stay away from let their kind remain in their land.

Like I told one obviously rabid anti-Ibo bigot on a different threads,I feel deep urge to insult you both I feel like calling you *********s but I will let the better man in me prevail. I am from delta state but I consider myself practically ibo having spent a part of my life relating with them although not within the south east .You saying that "Ibos are the real and only target for the daggars this time ” is the most dishonest statement I dare say you have ever uttered in nairaland and I don’t care to go through you post history.
I was not around during the period of the civil war or the immediate years that followed so everything I know about the civil war is what I learnt from documented history and opinions as well as what I was told by my Elders (parents uncles renown historians and the like) so I won’t dwell on the issues of the civil war. I was born and raised in kano and for the first eighteen to twenty years of my life its been a continuously evolving series of near death experiences for me my family and millions upon millions of others in the North (read core north).
Beginning from the Mai-Tasine crisis in kano, (which I barely survived as a toddler on my mother’s back at mai ‘yanka market ) which killed some eight hundred people , the Reinhardt Bonke riots in kano which killed about one thousand five hundred people( this happened to coincide with my first common entrance examination, went to the school to write the test and returned some four hours later seeing decapitated , disemboweled ,impaled and burnt dead bodies on the way home how I made it home is another story), the pork riots in Bauchi, riots in maidugry , kaduna , katsina, not forgetting the average three or so riots a year which happened all over the north during “STRONGMAN” OBJ’s tenure 1999-2007, [/i]the first of which occurred in OCTOBER 1999..
The most recent “incident” before the mutation of the players in these acts to what we now know as “BOKO HARAM”
You have to note that from the beginning of Nigeria there has been a devious predilection by the government, mostly controlled by the core north, to seriously understate casualty figures of those killed and those affected in these sectarian crises. The rule of the thumb is to add a zero( or two in the event of a very serious and widespread crisis case in point ;the pogroms of 1966 and the Reinhardt Bonke riots in 1991) to the stated numbers of the dead and injured to come to a more correct reckoning of the numbers of casualties.
[i]
The common thread through all of these sectarian crises ,was /is,
GENERAL TARGETS : anyone non-muslim and non core-north,
MAJOR TARGETS: anyone identified as ibo or who is unfortunate enough to look ibo.
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My point ? The pogroms of 1966 which were obviously targeted at the ibos also had a lot of non Ibo victims although a disproportionate number were ibos but the pogroms in the north ever since then have been "equal opportunity events, you may deny that to your hearts content,it will not change anything
You may want to deny, the fact of my assertions but your denials ,no matter how much logic and eloquence you pour into it : does not resurrect the dead, does not remove the memory of those lost ,does not comfort the families of those whose loved once simply disappeared after the riots never to be heard from or heard of again, it does not regrow the limbs of those who barely escaped with their lives but lost limb In the process neither does it remove the physical (not to speak of the mental) scars of those who sustained injuries but managed to live. Your denials does not renovate the houses/homes of those who were made homeless because their homes were burnt down/destroyed and it certainly does not refund or insure those who lost their life’s work/ businesses to marauders and had to start all over again, your denials will not help those who survived all of these, but lost their lives to heart attack and anxiety as a result of any number of the situations listed above and it will not remove from the memories of southeasterners and southerners’ in general who may never have spent a day in the north but were witnesses to the tales of woe told by the survivors who scrambled down home , most with only the cloths on their back and partakers in the burials of the bodies that were found and returned home as well as burials for those who were known to be dead but their bodies were never retrieved. Chew on that before you spew more feasis on this thread.

babyosisi:
Not funny o
They won't tell you how many Igbos have been slaughtered since the rumor

I hope those "enlightened" southerners and specifically ibos,know that for all their pseudo intellectual stand in the opposite side of their people(that is if indeed they are Ibo) you dare not go to the core north and assume you are immune to the treatment that awaits you at the hands if marauders whenever any of their many and repetitive sectarian violence occurs.Mnbe ogar por ginwa ge so zo.
The campaign to neutralize the southern and Ibo vote in the core not is in full blast.
You guys are here talking "democracy" vote GEJ out and vote another in, lets show the power of our votes.The north has been working for the past four years plus to get power by any and every means necessary, when they do this whole our vote is our power thing will vanish before your very eyes.You people will find it easier to remove Putin from power than remove the northern incumbent regardless of how badly things go(and things sure will go bad).

[q]"This man forgot the beings of earth, forgot the beings of heaven, in turn, he forgot the presence of God. The worst kind of behavior agitated his hands – greed occupied the centre of his heart, and he was a creature that walked in darkness."[/q]

Hold on, I thought that Soyinka was rabidly atheist or is agnostic they describe themselves as?

TheWhiteKnight:
Av been following you since your first comment on this thread...
To say that I am impressed is me just being discreet...

Which area of Info security do you specialise? Wld love to learn frm you.


PS: I thought the chopper at Abbottabad was blown up by the Seals...can any meaningful examination be carried ouvt on the charred remains??

I play in the data center design and build space as well as physical and logical security systems integration.

Well I'm sure you must have heard of accident investigations for automobiles' in serious car crashes,rail mishaps and even the worst of air crash incidents.
If you have ever paid attention to the conclusions the investigators are usually able to find the cause of the accidents regardless of how much damage is involved.
They find enough detail to determine the cause of the accidents to tell if someone sabotaged a car's breaks,to tell if some seemingly obscure part of a train engine failed causing a massive crash.They are especially able to determine apart from the information derived from an airplanes black box,if a plane crash was caused by a failed engine part or damage to the plane mid flight or as a result of poor maintenance or even sabotage.
If doing all that is now routine even with the worst kind of crashes, it takes just about the same skill set to examine a downed military aircraft,missile to get an idea of how it was built.
Hollywood has led a lot of people to believe that all crashes even the ones involving fires means nothing can be recovered.Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Even (trained) fire investigators can tell you everything thing about a fire in a burnt out building.How the fire started what specific conditions/items aided the fire and they can tell if the fire was intentional (arson) or not.
Take aircraft designers,aircraft engineers, give them training in engineering forensic science and reverse engineering they are ready to deconstruct any aircraft contraption .
The level of damage only reduces the amount of information they gather.
The chopper at Abottabad came under heavy caliber fire and took some damage.The pilot had to effect a semi controlled landing.The soldiers then had to attempt to damage the chopper beyond the level of retrieving any information from the avionics and other systems using some nitrate compound (can't remember the name right now) that burns to 1500 degrees Celsius but even at that temperature you will only minimally damage metals so there might be something to learn from looking at the engines.

smithsammy:
hahahahahaha! Village boi! For the first time in your life. Jonathan has damaged your cerebral.. I can see you need to be liberated. You need to stop this achaic way of living and reasoning. To cap it all, you need a totally change; that you can be sure my general will bring to your life next year.

Persin tell you say successive governments dry use train dey do opio ,for the first time in his life in that area (an experience millions of others too will enjoy too if true) he will use a train in his home state/region because the current government is making a forlorn hope reality and you say he is archaic (not achaic).
That broom AC/ACN/APC has been waving all over Nigeria must have some voodoo potency to have made otherwise reasonable people to loose their darn minds.

turawafett:
My answer to your question is yes Buhari is not the messiah, I will have preferred a technocrat as the next President. But as it is Buhari is the only alternative. My options are limited to either retain Jonathan or change him.
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The food stuff which prices have not changed are the ones produced locally, reason being that we don't need any dollar exchange rate to buy them.[/size] But then man does not live by food alone. For every container @ any sea port in Nigeria waiting to be off load, it's landing cost has increased by close to 40%

The price of your car parts has increased, the good from China has increased. I can go on and on.

We are supposed to be enjoying reduced in fuel price the naira exchange rate did not allow it.

Take a walk to any electronic show room and see the increment in price.

How much do we really used to feed out of our monthly income?

These country must move forward. We need to change how we do things in this part of the world. Our citizens are been treated badly every where they go. We need to change our mentality as a nation.

Minister should be chosen based on merit and not based on sentiment and compensation. Technocrat should be allowed to drive the vehicle of our dear country.

I won't argue so much about what you said,but I am calling attention to the bolded .
You grudgingly admitted (feel free to recant anytime) that GEJ's specifically agricultural and food security policy is well on track.We are not where we should be but for an administration in its fourth year plus eight months, that is amazing progress.Unfortunately not every sector moves that fast,even with same effort.

waternogeteneny:
It will be interesting to see, how many more so called young Nigerians he murders wen he loses the next elections.

I made exactly that same point in another thread where someone wrote a long winding treatise claiming the Ibos were still stuck in 1966.
I made the point to a well known (female Ibo?) poster that for all her pseudo intellectual delusions leading her to take a stand against the general opinion of her people because she is "enlightened" ,there is only one candidate of whom she should be careful to not be around his core support base geographically when the election is won and lost.
[size=20pt]If it turns out that this candidate lost she should seek safety at the nearest army base IMMEDIATELY otherwise if she is accosted by that candidates protesting supporters she will not even get the chance to tell them who she voted and campaigned for.Just her [b]"enlightened" looks will seriously endanger her life.
Regret is the last thought that will cross her mind.Same applies to those [/b] " enlightened youths".[/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/2055577/igbos-guided-memory-blinded-bitterness/5#29106681

cramjones:
[size=20pt]ONCE BUHARI TAKES OVER POWER, THESE IRRESPONSIBLE ATTITUDE BY SO CALLED ENTERTAINERS WILL STOP. FIRST AND FOREMOST JONATHAN AND HIS GOONS WILL BE FLOGED OUT OF ASO ROCK BACK TO OTUEKE, AND THEN WE WILL DEAL WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT ADDS NO VALUE TO OUR ECONOMIC SYSTEM!
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-CRAMJONES

You think you just made a joke but you have no idea you just made a terrible self fulfilling prophecy.I grew up in Kano and you have no Idea how close things have come to the scenario you just painted.
Solution vote GEJ.

ANBAKO:
God bless you for this piece. All those 2$/day statistics was in the 50's, Literacy level in Nigeria high. All those stat of 30 million has HIV, 70% are poor ...na wash. It is just for NGO and Government to get donors and aids respectively. Person that is living on 2$/day dey do Aso ebi? Dey do bash? Dey drink Alomo?, 6 odeku?

This is the single correct statistic about Nigeria. Even all those population of 170 Million na lie......All those Ekiti, Osun, Kebbi, Ebonyi, Gombe, Bayelsa, Zamfara no pass 15 million all together.

Bro I agree with you completely but I hope you know that logic applies kano and Lagos as well?
I don't believe the census claim of kano having a population of 9 plus million and I certainly do not believe the claim by the Lagos state gov that the population is 16-17 million.
All in all I'll say our true population is more like 120-130 million tops.

vandalZA:
but if we can change this in to percentage south Africa could be number one........Nigeria 57.7million people on internet over 170million population and south Africa with 25million users on internet over 47million population..........if you know the percentage you could see the difference

So right, proportionally,south Africa is ahead (47.5% penetration ) in Africa and the US is ahead in of China (some 65% penetration).
The last time I checked I think south Korea was leading the world by way of proportional internet penetration.

maajin007:
bro I want to some of this satellite stuff

Have a problem with my nairaland email.What exactly do you want?