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Aemmyjah:
Ok
Let's that it logically

What's the meaning of this?

How many years did God say his people will spend in exile?

You don't use question to answer question.

If you don't have answer to my question just say it.

Note that Babylonian historians do not agree on the dates of everything

So, where did you get the date 537BC from?

Aemmyjah:
It involved God's people

Nobody disputes this.

The exile must have a starting date and ending year right?

Definitely, so which one is starting date and the ending year?

According to Bible chronology and the book of Ezra, when were the Jews released?

You should provide it here!

Go amd get your materials nd do the calculation

I did and it came out as 587BC which is also supported by archeologist findings and historical documents.

So back to my question, does 537BC come from God or mention in God's Word?

Or let me put it this way, how do you arrive at 537BC?

Aemmyjah:
Even if 70 years taken away from 537 BCE will lead to 607 BCE. 70 years of exile as God said. This mad apostates claiming to be Christians will rather fight those defending the Bible out of envy and hate.

How many years did God say his people will be in exile? 587 - 537 BCE (50 years) or 607 - 537 BCE (70 years).
They'll rather make the Bible look inaccurate
No peace for the apostates wicked
😂

You people have been hammering on 70 years and 537BC

So, does this 537BC come from God or mention in God's Word?

Courz:
You use the same Bible Scholars and their information to do calculation to suit yourself at a certain point then you decided to do your own calculation from that point to arrive at 607 and then say the source you used is unreliable. All because you are desperate to make 607 and 1914 correct by all means necessary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Can you see the mago mago? The American wonder they performed here. Chai! It is good to be educated. No wonder they don't want JWs to go to University.

That is why I keep asking JaNosense to provide the SECULAR HISTORIANS since he agreed that secular historians were truthful about the date.

One can easily spot their fraud even in their calculation of 3 1/2years to arrive at 2520 years.

How can 2520days suddenly changed to 2520years?

No where God ever said 1day will automatically become 1year. They just took Bible verse out of context to get their dubious calculation.

The quote on Watchtower 2011 says it all. Only untruthful person will read the above quote from Watchtower 2011 and still support them.

Courz:
See the Fraud Watchtower did in broad daylight to arrive at 607 Bce. They desperately need this date to be correct. So, they did some mago mago in the calculation of the dates. Now see where it gets interesting. The Same Watchtower depended on the secular sources and tablets to arrive at the date when Babylon fell but at the same time made the claims that these secular sources are not reliable. It is just like a person using a method to create something but at the same time the person is claiming that this method is not reliable. So, the question is, if these secular sources and tablets are not reliable, why are you using them in the first place to arrive at a date? After arriving at a date, you now formed your own calculation that involves adding more years to the reign of Kings at that time. You see the wayo they did just so that the dating can stretch to fit 607 Bce?

The funny thing is, these are secular historians of which even Watchtower will claim they are bias, these people just did their jobs and established fact.

Even Judaism doesn't bother themselves with the date of Jerusalem destruction neither Christianity but only Watchtower is trying to spin the historical fact and make use of this delusion and their members swallowed it.

That's why you won't see them providing a single link or video that supported their claim rather than telling you to google it.

And no matter how you search Google you won't come across a single reputable source supporting 607BC as the year Jerusalem was destroyed apart from Watchtower website and few JWs who also repeating the lies on their website.

Janosky:
Did secular history prove that king Cyrus of Persia released the Jewish captives in Babylon (captive for 70 years) to return to Jerusalem in 537 BCE & rebuild the temple to fulfil 2 chronicles 36:2023 & Ezra 1:1-4?

Provide the secular history here.

Why are you afraid of the truth?

The years of BCE was counted backwards. When you add 70 years Jewish captivity to year 537 BCE , what do you get?

When did secular history say the Counting of the year 70Years started from?

This are the fact you need to provide from the so called secular history.

MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF

Oga, carry your IBERIBEISM & STUPIDITY out of this forum.[/b]

Never make any sense in his life, JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil.

Janosky:
Let the screenshots evidences EXPOSE THE FRAUD of PROPHECIES PRACTICED BY CHRISTENDOM which the OP ,Mr Sand2022 supports.

Oga Sand2022, your flawed adventure to discredit JWs can not prevail.

The testimony of this man is so heartwarming, what a wicked world we live.

But hard it been this is about Watchtower, JaNosense will you have agreed with him or defend Watchtower?

Courz:
Mumu Janosky with your maggot infested brain, where is your evidence to prove 607 Bce? Where are the Scholars that back up 607 Bce? Where are the archeologists to confirm 607 Bce? Where are the Cuneiform tablets found by Archeologists that prove that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607bce? You can't be jumping up and down this thread like a little boy ranting like an Idiot! Where are your evidence? Surely there must be proof to confirm 607 right? Oya show us! We have shown our own. Any intelligent person will take us seriously because we have shown all proof in this thread. But an uneducated fool will take you JWs seriously. Watchtower knows 607 is a scam. That's why they are forcing you JWs to accept it or else you are called Apostates. They know the fraud they made with 607 and 1914. Once these doctrines get New Light, it means they were never selected in 1919. The original inventors of 1914 that you JWs copied from have discarded the doctrine because they know it is False! When will you people discard it?

They are the one who will make dubious claims they will be the same people telling you to look for the evidence that support their claims. Very pathetic set of people!

Since Oga intelligent officer was exposed of those videos, you notice he couldn't talk again about the fraud of 607BC, he was so happy seeing @mightysparrow changing the subject matter with him

MaxInDHouse:
Since i've noticed how Emusan always avoid the things that points to JWs as having truth i have decided not to respond to his post.
We are not sent to entertain arguments rather we were sent to search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel!

Lying liar JWs hallgoer miscreant.

@Color - was it the two videos you posted which none of it supported your claim and one is from exjws is the truth Emusan is avoiding about JWs having?

Since you were exposed of the lies in the videos you went into ghost mode and were so happy when the thread was derailed only to craw out of your shell hole and claim you stop responding to me when you still reply to my post yesterday.

Shameless hallgoer miscreant.

Well, the historical and archeological fact is that Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607BC.

If you have your evidence, provide it.

Janosky:
Emusan LYING MUMU WAILER

You no get Google and other search engines for your phones & laptop?
Oga, stop proven your stupidity on this forum..

Ozuo muasan.

In other words, you can't provide the YEAR King Cyrus gave the Jews to return

Always making claims without evidence to back it up

I've provided enough evidence on this thread

Why can't you provide your own evidence of the YEAR?

That shows you know you're lying.

JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF
Is 2 chronicles 36:20:23 and Ezra 2:1-4 in your own Bible?
Which year did King Cyrus give a decree for the Jews to return from captivity and rebuild Jerusalem?

It was your deluded brother who first claimed that God gave the Jews a specific date and now you made a similar claim.

So can you provide the evidence that shows the YEAR King Cyrus gave a decree for Jews return?

Counting back from that year (confirmed by history) & 70 years in your own Bible) gives you what year?

Courz Oteneaaron OZUO pro max.

Which YEAR was CONFIRMED BY HISTORY?

Who is/are the historian(s) that confirmed the year

Lying liar JWs JaNosense

MaxInDHouse:
Hen!

Chicken ni

MaxInDHouse:
OK nah!

It must be Okay!

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmm this is thought provoking!

If the one and only true God was the one with Israel how will the nations fighting against them know the secret behind their wandering in the wilderness?

Thought provoking yet you couldn't address it but only to turn it around and asked a meaningless question

pquaver:
Exactly why the governors need to answer what the they did with the allocations the they received..

Allocation doesn't put Governors as the person in charge of monetary policy of Nigeria.

So I don't see your point here.

Some hide it in Panama yax haven and go about claiming saint and messiah

At least the ones who didn't hide it in Panama yax haven, should have affect on Nigeria economy.

So I don't see your point for the reason Governors should be held responsible for the economy woe in federalism system of government.

And criticising other for something he did worse and would be worse if he won..

Who is this for?

Starz825:
So how many people's support??

Does the sitting president needs the support of over 200million people before he could convince the INEC chairman to work in his favour......

Abeg stop blaming Nigerians ....

All the INEC chairman needs it to see number of people supporting the sitting president.

If nobody is supporting him, INEC chairman can't do anything.

Corruption has gotten to a point Where our votes doesn't count anymore...

I didn't disagree with with.

Only Nigerians can take back their country from these thieves parading as democrats...

No politician...I repeat No politician can save this country...they are all corrupt and clueless...

The constitutional laws used in governing Nigeria is full of corruption...it has to be changed and overhauled from the anti-people undertones to a democratic-laden one that will involve and consider every Nigerian regardless of tribe, age , status, pockets...

Well you raised some silent points

Courz:
Exactly. That's the danger they are in. They are True believers in Delusions. Fantasies. Non Biblical imaginations. Not even one of them can provide evidence for 607 Bce even though they have been shown that is a Lie from the pit of hell.

As it can be deduced from JaNosense post above:

They know what history and historians say about 607BC.

They know about archeological evidence about the date 587BC.

They know no scholars agree with the date of 607BC

But they must BELIEVE whatever Watchtower says to deceive them.

MaxInDHouse:
You keep proving that you're faithless!

Imagine you're a Canaanite during the time Israelites were wandering in the wilderness for forty years a journey that supposed to take them forty days. Would you have believed that it was the Almighty God that's with them?

Your faithlessness is the only thing that will lead you to destruction now because i'm sure this is clear to you!

This is funny and shows the shallowness of the scripture.

Well, let's go with your line of Israelites wondering in the wildness for forty years instead of forty days and God was still with them.

But remember the reason forty days became forty years was the punishment for their disobedience.

Now, has Jehovah ever punished Watchtower for any of their disobedience/lie/false doctrine/wrong teaching before?

This manipulative line is stale already.

Provide the scholars that agree with your year 607BC.

Janosky:
The Bible clearly states that there was an exile of 70 years. There is strong evidence​—and most scholars agree—​that the Jewish exiles were back in their homeland by 537 B.C.E. Counting back from that year would place Jerusalem’s destruction in 607 B.C.E.

You said there is strong evidence and MOST scholars agree on 537BC which you don't have problem with.

So, what did the scholars say about 70years of exiled?

Since it was a strong EVIDENCE and MOST SCHOLARS AGREE..

Though the classical historians and the canon of Ptolemy disagree with this date, valid questions can be raised about the accuracy of their writings.

This is the line Watchtower deceived you with.

Sorry, you can't rewrite history just because of your dubious and fraud doctrine.

Really, those two lines of evidence hardly provide enough proof to overturn the Bible’s chronology.

You called something LINE OF EVIDENCE yet you believe it can't overturn biblical chronology.

Why called it EVIDENCE?

Very dull JaNosense

The fact is, no single EVIDENCE that support 607BC as the year Jerusalem was destroyed.

Provide the archeological and historical evidence here.

pquaver:
Fixedt @ the bolded

Who fixed it?

What is this nonsense of shifting blame on the Governors and not the head?

Are the Governors in charge of Nigeria economy?

Have you forgotten that Nigeria is practicing federalism system of government?

Starz825:
When will you guys understand that there is no credible election in Nigeria hence should not blame any Nigerian for anything...

Most of these guys bought their way up...we all witnessed how the last election went..say na the highest bidder win

So you all should rest on all these election have consequences shit wey he na dey always yarn for here

When will you guys understand that without people's support no politicians can buy their way up?

Paraman:
The price should fall when the PH and Dangote refinery start selling

Are you the owners of those refineries?

blacknp:
Man do you, i do me, be waiting for President in Abuja like your Almijiri brethren in Birin Kebbi, & Gombe to come & help you arrange your existence like he has been doing.

I wonder why the top economists are given Elder Tinubu TO-DO-LIST about the hunger in the land and not just focus on Bornu governor or Abia Governor.

Discussing critical point of government with you is a waste of precious time.

blacknp:
Speak for yourself, what concerns me with the President in Abuja, The Governor of my state of residence & Local Government is more important to me, than any figure head of Almijiris in Abuja.

That's my point exactly.

If an adult in 21 century don't know the important of a President in a federalism system of government.

So, it's your state Governor that is charge of monetary policies that drive Nigeria economy.

It's your state Governor that has power over Nigeria borders and ports.

It's your state Governor that is in charge of security architecture of the country.

It's your State Governor you will hold accountable for all the Ministries in the country (only if you know the roles of a ministry).

It's your state Governor you will hold accountable for the foreign affairs relationship

Meh people like should not come online to discuss things that pertinent to government and politics.

richiemcgold:
Allow us to win AFCON first.

All enemies of Nigeria shall go to hell.

If you wish this country bad, you shall go to hell too,

AMEN.

But it's people like you who always wish the country bad by reinforcing failed leaders.

The funny thing is, you people always claim to be the most patriotic and lover of the country.

badoh:
Please tell us the strategy he will adopt by removing subsidy in phases?
What was his scorecard in Anambra State when he was the governor?
Why did he allow health workers to down tool for almost a year without considering the attendant effect on the health sector?
Why did he invest state funds in a bank he has vested and controlling interest?
What critical infrastructure did Obi built that we can call a legacy project?
Was it true that Obi sacked civil servants that are not indigene of Anambra State?
Do you think Obi has the mental and political will to govern a a complex country as Nigeria without succumbing to the threat of Boko-haram, UGM, bandits etc
Do you see Obi surviving 1year as President without facing the threat of impeachment?

You should rather be asking all these questions from the person who is ruling now. I believe you asked all these questions before election and you got the answers.

So rather focus on the person you voted by start comparing his before election statement and manifesto with the reality on ground.

Well, if you didn't ask such questions before election, it'll be better you do personal research of all interviews Obi did before the election. That will help.

I know you people just want to be consoling yourself with this narrative of "IF Obi this IF Obi that"

blacknp:
Sorry o, but Peter Gringory Obi can never be president of The Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Orji Kalu or Rochas Okorocha will be President of Nigeria 16 years before that scoundrel Obi Peter.

And someone like you now will be claiming to be the most patriotic and lover of Nigeria.

So to you it's just about how the presidency will be turn by turn not about putting the country on her right path of greatness for the future generations to be proud of.

Very pathetic if an adult can be thinking this way in this jet age.

Catapault:
The hypocrisy of people blaming Tinubu for high prices caused by subsidy removal is truly mind boggling.

I clearly remember Peter Obi and even Atiku Abubakar vowing to remove subsidies “ON DAY ONE” of their presidency if they won!

So why is everybody now abusing Tinubu for the inflation?

It makes no sense.

Or am I missing something?

You failed to listen to Peter Obi when he was painfully reeling out is plan for the country including going to places. I guess you're among those who make mockery of him about quoting statistics.

Now, you have seen the failure of the person you voted for and looking for how to twist the narrative.

The assignment for you are:
Go and find out what Peter Obi said about OUR DAILY CONSUMPTION in respect to subsidy removal.

Let me give you a clue on this, the real fraud on subsidy is on our daily consumption.

Imagine, we were told that Nigeria consumes over 60million litters per day. Peter Obi gave example that Pakistan who is more than Nigeria in population don't consume the quantity of fuel our leaders told us we are consuming. So, if we can actually get our daily consumption then you might even be surprised that the amount to be paid on subsidy won't be a burden to the government or what FG can bear until subsidy can finally be addressed.

Go and find out about what he said on oil theft in respect to subsidy removal.

Then, bring out your fact on how elder Tinubu addressed any topic about subsidy, oil theft and our daily consumption.

Just agree that either you were among those who decided to teach Igbo lesson or you made grave mistake by voting for Elder Tinubu even when he never makes any reasonable point that addresses the failed economy which he is part of or you just voted simply because he's your tribal man.

Throwback:
No revelation here when the top candidates already promised to go along with the post dated removal of subsidy that Buhari planned, with some even promising to remove the subsidy on the very 1st day.

Same top candidates also promised to float the Naira to allow for market forces to determine the exchange rate.

So nothing new as this is the reality of such policies they espoused.

Shut the craps.

Always looking for excuses.

Go back and read most Obi's statement and compare it with what your failure president is doing now.

Besides, which chapter are you on Elder Tinubu manifesto now?

Now go back and read his manifesto and compare with Obi manifesto?

tensazangetsu20:
I already knew that tinubu will be the next president of Nigeria since 2020 and started plotting my exit but I tried and voted for obi Sha alongside all my family make e no be like say I no try.

Yes! I also foresaw his move to be the president which I don't have problem with but I didn't support him because if he had anything to offer, as the National Leader of APC he would have done that instead of watching Buhari to collapse the economy.

I first thought this was an edited thread but seeing people who already quoted the OP and realised that the OP last seen was May 10, 2023 affirmed the authenticity of the OP.

Well, many right thinking non-igbos who supported Peter Obi actually saw all these as well and the reason they thrown their support to him.

Anyways, it has happened and just like a prophecy everything OP wrote is playing out in our very own eyes. Who could've imagine that in less than a year Dollar will increase 100%?

We still have a long way to go in this country!

OlujobaSamuel:
Better, we are getting there

Maybe you're not into foreign exchange, Buhari did exactly the same in 2017 at it backfired which is the reason naira/dollar rate jump up with over ₦150 then.

So how is this better?

Definetly, these people lack the ideas to run the economy, it's just like recycling old idea.