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achorladey:
Respectful in giving in to be raped by potiphars wife right?

Very funny people, the other one is even saying Joseph respectfully pleaded.

When Joseph actually struggled to escape reason why Potiphar's wife could only hold his cloth.

Meanwhile see the screenshot:

achorladey:
While still a Muslim you call [b]people not associated with Muslims apostates

You saw that lie as well.

As a Muslim he already knows there is apostate in JWs

Well, what you do expect from someone who can lie boldly against God's Holy Spirit?

achorladey:
The rope he wants to use to tie his neck, e don draw am out already

Very simple as ABC

I warned them about this earlier about their saying babies are enemies of God. The repercussion is in the statement

Not even a single scripture to back it up but just because it was said by one of their gods then it must be true.

He said and I quote "if I be atheist, I don see point to use against you."

See what his own Atheists brother used against him

achorladey:
His arrogance with LordReed was exposed, the bragging and proud student of biology cannot identify simple chemicals that made up the DNA

He even tag his Atheists friends thinking he had made sense.

Now that his Atheists friend has replied him, let's see how it goes

Moniya4Real:
I thin the fact is- they all perform woefully but at different levels. Take it back to former years and check out how much dollar was back then. Even Abacha would be a saint compared to the latter crop of leaders

That's not true.

How to know, if Buhari should maintain the increment with just 50% of what GEJ left, dollar will be around 300 to naira when he left.

So previous governments maintained just two digits increment only Buhari took it to three digits.

Whatever the previous governments did to maintain 2digits means they did well than Buhari.

Bobloco:
Tinubu is about to dwarf that record by increasing dollar by over 1000% in his first four years

Presently, Tinubu is already at 94% increment in less than 9months. Thou, the certificate forger can't take it to 1000%.

PassingShot:
Check your figures and come back with the right ones.

Nothing to check, you can confirm rather!

PassingShot:
A lot of Nigerians still believe that Buhari failed woefully while a few of us think differently.

Surely, the man Buhari is too patriotic for Nigerians. We most times do not know our true friends.

And the same few didn't think differently when GEJ was there.

dollar only increased about 35% throughout GEJ while the same Buhari you unpatriotic and the real enemies of Nigeria( yet claiming to be the most patriotic and lover of Nigeria) think differently for increased dollar with whooping 247%

So if the man Buhari is too patriotic for Nigerians with an increment of over 240%, what will you call GEJ who held dollar under 40% increment?

You wake up from wrong side of the bed and you want to vent your frustration on innocent person.

Aemmyjah:
That's where your misunderstanding comes in

And your delusion compounded after

Why not humble yourself and seek better understanding?

The usual statement from a deluded person.

Had it been you take this your advice for once, you won't be following those gods in Warwick.

God will not use the sin of the father to punish sons or future generations.

Well God is not a liar like you.

You can reject God's Word but God's Word will never change.

Everyone knows it is written that Exodus 20:5 that "You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me."

Reason why your own organisation made the statement in below screenshot.

So, any how you want to spin it, CHILDREN are INNOCENT and not ENEMY OF GOD as your gods in Warwick put it that's the point here.

That's unrighteousness and even in our imperfect world, they don't punish the child for the atrocity of the parent. Will Jehovah punish the blameless ones for the sins of the parents when He himself gave such command that a parent should not be put to death for the sins of the children and the children should not be put to death for the sins of the parents. Is that not hypocritical? There is a King in the Bible who was so bad that Jehovah was determined to destroy him and his wicked household but only one child, was to go to his grave in peace, he won't die a violent death cos he was innocent. I can't recall the king name and the child.

See how you're displaying your ignorance.

The point here is not that God will "PUT PEOPLE TO DEATH..." for the sins of their parents but VISIT/PUNISH THEM.

Even your organisation teaches that people suffer the consequences of the sins of others.

We're suffering for what Adam did in the garden till now.

So you can see how your lying mouth is being exposed.

[s]Now, what does the Bible really mean?

Children of wicked people usually take after their parents. We see that severally in the Bible especially by Israel neighbors. Jehovah is lenient, these wicked ones do their thing and think they can get away with it. No, Jehovah is patient and hopes that people will turn to repentance but some do not, they only get worse, God's patience has limit and he will definitely punish them even if the timing of that event should affect future generations, that nation or society must be brought to justice.
For example, the nation of Israel itself became apostate, they did all manner of bad things. Their apostasy actually began after the mistake of Solomon, after the nation became divided and were ruled by stupid kings. They persecuted the prophets, false worship flourished like wild weed, they did all things to dishonor Jehovah and Jehovah kept warning them again and again using different generation of prophets - Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Elijah, Elisha, etc. They refused to listen and things became worse. It's is like they were heaping, continuing, multiplying the sins from their fathers (the days of Solomon), until they drew God's wrath upon them in 607 BCE where Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were taken into exile for 70 years
Similar thing happened to Egypt who held Israel bound for over 400 years. They did not want to let them go, they even gave a decree that all male babies be thrown into the Jordan. When Jehovah punished them with plagues and their army with death in the Red Sea, was God punishing an innocent generation with the sins of the ancestors or for their own sins by following the wicked ways of their fathers, even doing worse?
Similar thing happened to Sodom and Gomorrah, they did not just wake up overnight and became grossly immoral right? We know it's easy to be corrupted and take up bad habits but a deeply corrupted society takes a long time to be that way... Nigeria, as a democratic country is corrupt but the corruption did not start during the democratic era, the military era was corrupt and there was still corruption during the colonial era. How corrupt will Nigeria be in the next 20 years? We visited a court to sign a document with the Commissioner of oaths, he asked for money. I want to stamp some documents at the faculty, I am asked to pay for ordinary stamping ... Sins of our fathers handed over to us and getting worse in our own generation... The Bible says that angels of Jehovah visited Lot and all the men were struggling at Lot's door to sleep with the angels. The Bible adds that it was from small boy to old man . You can imagine a small child fighting with an old man to sleep with someone of the same gender?! omg!!! When God destroyed those cities, he could not endure their nonsense forever, the angels were crying to God against them and God acted. Was he using the sins of their forefathers to destroy them or he was punishing them for the same sins they and their wicked fathers had been doing? they were heaping God's wrath on their heads by multiplying the sins from their fathers.[/s]

Absolutely rubbish and out of point.

To the thrash!

Now, there are differences between you and Atheists as well as similarities. The difference is that you claim to believe in God and the Bible which they don't. The similarity is that you are both blind, highly arrogant and extremely ignorant.

I don't know what caused this your early frustration but whatever it is, just know that you pick the wrong battle.

Well maybe you were defeated by the Atheists in your own thread, just imagine he even tag them here

The similarity between you and atheists is the ability to lie against God and deny His Word.

God will not give any wisdom to such people but allow them to continue to stumble and other them mislead others too with their poorly baked teachings and misrepresentation of God and his ways.

At least we know who is denying God's Word and making God to be a liar here.

If God's word says God will visit the iniquity of the parents on their Children and even your organisation agree with this, definitely it's you who misrepresented God and lie against Him.

Those who love God seek to please him and know and teach the truth about him.

But you don't seek and speak TRUTH about God.

How are you different from the Pharisees and Sadducees?

Definitely JWs are the Pharisees and Sadducees of today because of their hatred for the TRUTH and God's Word.

I now see why MaxInDHouse calls you people disguised atheists and I fully agree with him.

Birds of the same feather flock together.

This nonsense you are saying gives atheists an upper hand and make weak ones lose more faith in God. Jehovah gives wisdom to the loyal, humble ones ☺. You remind me of Job 3 friends as dem just de misyan nonsense in their yeye debates, dem de misrepresent God make e vex for them. If no be say Job na strong man, e for lose faith. But na Satan send them to Job.

At least we see how your beautiful thread make those Atheists love Jehovah.

If I be your church member, my faith for lose temperature

My church members don't lie against God and His Word. So we can't be the same.

and if I be atheist, I don see point to use against you.

Francistown
Kkins25

Of course you're a disguise Atheists who never believe anything about God Himself.

Reason why you tag them.

Mind yourself. Shoraré o

I know what leads to this, just allow God to have His way in your life and all your frustration will disappear.

Kobojunkie:
Christianity is a religion, and yes, God hates religion.

Where did God say He hates religion?

BennyDGreat:
Beyond the jihad movement?
Is there any natural resource around the axis where this crisis happens?

The talk about natural resources is just smoke screen.

BennyDGreat:
What's the purpose of that?
This is crazy.... wiping people out year in year out

The purpose for that is the reason they were called Jihadist.

Cutezt:
Mr army sir, you are the useless and baseless ones.

The CAN chairman is not asking you for protection anymore, they are simply asking you to leave. Let who survives survive.
The statement is baseless, yet for hours, they were killing in Barkin Ladi, I personally have relatives there who I spoke with when it was happening and I can attest to the fact that the helpline was called for many hours and nobody showed up until the terrorists completed their agenda and went away, this is not hearsay, I was on the phone hearing gunshots.


This has been the gameplan for over 20 years on the Plateau, impose a curfew, then the blood thirsty terrorists come and kill the law abiding people observing the curfew in their homes, these terrorists are not spirits, they don't appear all of a sudden and start burning houses and killing people, so where are tye security agencies meant to be enforcing the curfew? Or do they were headsets and suddenly can't hear gun shots when this is happening?

Let the army leave and let the Plateau people show the world they are not cowards. So terrible that this is even happening in the current governors LGA.

Not even by calling the help line.

I was in Mangu, Bokkos precisely in 2018 that was the period when their traditional ruler was murdered.

I was told that when killing started, the army came and there was curfew declared from duck to dawn. So the army will be on ground but all of a sudden, the army will be no where to be found and in few minutes the jihadist will come to attack for hours and immediately they left the army will show face again.

So, the villagers came to realise that the army will only be around to prevent the villagers to retaliate.

MaxInDHouse:
Yes of course!
He served when servants of God still CURSE those that offended them but i now know better that sinners are not supposed to curse sinners but pray for them {Luke 6:27-28} he slaughtered pagans while i allow them to see God's grace {Luke 9:51-55} no wonder Jesus (God's Son) said we (Christians) are greater than John the baptist who is also greater than all those born through women! Matthew 11:11

This hallgoer miscreant is now claiming to be a Christian.

Do you belong to Christ now after you didn't think twice to be under the old cursed and bastardized name(Christian)?

jaephoenix:
Why do you avoid debates with me? Lol.

I guess your conscience is judging you

Even after I bring evidence for you?

Where is the evidence?

Your god no like truth?

My God is the very Truth.

What does your own god like?

FRANCISTOWN:
The computer is controlled by humans. The computer cannot take decisions on its own.

Good, do you think a system that can control itself and take decision on its own, doesn't need to be designed?

Humans are different from computers in existence, but the human brain and the computer have some similarities.
They are made up of different components.

I'll go with that @colord part.

That similarities is the key.

Which means the scientists, engineers and mathematicians behind supercomputer are working towards that of HUMAN brain.

I know you're part of people who believe ONE DAY COMPUTER CAN GAIN CONSCIOUSNESS

So, if our computer will one day gain consciousness, will it just evolve to that level or DESIGNED to reach that level?

I maintain that the human brain is not intelligently designed. There is no proof of it.
The human brain only DEVELOPS in an intelligent way.

You might not know how complex the supercomputer is other than you just read or heard it's a complex system. Reason it's easy for you to just say HUMAN BRAIN IS NOT INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED.

Well @color part shows you know the truth.

CoolAmbience:
Lol...
You must be really ignorant.
Any sane person knows that the higher a roof is away from its occupants, the greater the comfort they derive. We are talking impact of proximity as it relates to heat radiation here.

Funny how you people quick to insult when empty.

What is the standard recommendation for roof Design as par BS8110 or EC2?

I did a course on the revolutionary Cool Ambient Technology in far away North America, exactly ten years ago.

Simple analogy, do you feel the heat of fire more when it is closer or farther from you?
Try dey reason na, and be open to learning.

I repeat in building cross ventilation is achieved through openings not roof.

FRANCISTOWN:
The human brain is not a result of an intelligent design. There is no proof of that.

The proof for that is our complex supercomputer.

Is human brain more complex than supercomputer we have today? The answer is Yes!

Was this supercomputer DESIGNED? The answer is another capital YES!

because nothing as complex as supercomputer will be deny of being designed in scientific world today.

So how come something that is far more complex than what great and intelligent scientists, engineers and mathematicians come together to produce has no proof for its complexity?

If, you agree that supercomputer can't come from DULLARD OR UNINTELLIGENT mind, how come you can open mouth to say HUMAN BRAIN doesn't have any proof of DESIGN?

You people know natural processes can't produce the complexity of human brain but will like to push it aside like something that is not note worth, yet praises the great scientists, engineers and mathematicians for their great contribution to give us a complex system like computer and other technologies.

It's easy for you to say the complexity of human brain has no PROOF OF DESIGN but will never dare say the same with supercomputer.

FRANCISTOWN:
Okay lol!
So, that's to say...?

That is to say, natural processes can't produce human brain.

Human brain is a result of intelligent design.

I know you'll agree with me that scientists, engineers & mathematicians who came together to give us microprocessor are not DULLARD but GENIUS and highly INTELLIGENT.

If human brain is far more complex than supercomputer we have today, why do you people like to give this GENIUS AND INTELLIGENT work to just NATURAL PROCESSES?

FRANCISTOWN:
I already told you to read on Cell Signaling, you'd find all the information there.

I did that many years ago.

Please cut the chase and go straight to the point. I've been trying to keep it simple.

What exactly are you driving at?

I've already told you my point.

Human brain is more complex than supercomputer.

If supercomputer can't happen by random evolution definitely human brain can't happen by random evolution.

FRANCISTOWN:
Cells react based on their environment.
Please read on cell signaling

Likewise do elements reacts based on their environment.

But the part you're neglecting is PATTERN OR PROGRAM.

You agree that cells develop based on pattern or PROGRAM. Don't forget!

CoolAmbience:
To add to the brilliant contribution you made.
A high or higher roof has good implication for energy consumption and improves indoor cooling.

This is pure lie!

Cross ventilation is achieved in a building with good opening not from the roof.

Workch:
Go back and analyze your initial comparison carefully

Point it out first.

FRANCISTOWN:
Simply from the cells, passed to you from your parents.

You mean the cells pattern or PROGRAM themselves.

Just like saying silicon atoms already have the pattern or PROGRAM that can rearrange themselves into billion of Transistors and capacitors in our microchip.

Does this make sense to you?

Workch:
Science does not make illogical comparisons. You have to carefully think before coming up with comparisons.

First of all, you don't say SCIENCE.

And I said, scientists compare microprocessor with human brain.

They have to make sense, you don't compare a monkey and fish in a swimming contest.

So who is comparing monkey with fish here?

FRANCISTOWN:
I wouldn't wanna use the word "design". The word design is prolly too ambiguous and too strong for this argument.

Not using it doesn't change the fact that, it's designed. This is scientific fact! Which unfortunate you can't change.

I prefer to use pattern or programmed

So how was the pattern or PROGRAMME come up?

FRANCISTOWN:
You can't restrict what I think to the options you've given. I could think a million things.

You're right!

From a zygote to a blastocyst, to an embryo to a fetus. According to science, backed by irrefutable series of proofs.

I'd say, the human brain develops.

I like this!

For something to develop, it means the thing is happening under set of rules.

For instance, when to start developing and when top stop.

This are the same rules applicable in the scientific world, reason why we could have a complex system like microprocessor e.t.c and the reason why apply the word "DESIGN" to them.

Workch:
comparing humans to computer is like comparing real life probabilities with computer algorithm.

It does not work that way

But in scientific world, they are in comparison.

In fact, what human wants to achieve right now is to develop a more complex system like human brain, in achieving this scientists will have pushed technology beyond LIMIT.

Workch:
I don't know if everything was set in place but what I know is that it's all about probability and even if it was set in place, it's so wasteful and the person who set it in place relied so much on probabilities and we process is singularly so wasteful.

You people can quickly jump under the guise of probability when discussing a complex structure like human body but will never think of such when it comes to ordinary microcontroller not to talk of microprocessor. The most advanced supercomputer of today still no match human brain.

Yet you believe this (human brain) came as a result of probability.

Do you know various fields of engineering expertise that comes together to give us microprocessor?

Can you imagine how human can expand their imagination to fabricate billions of Transistor and capacitors in a space less that 5mm x 5mm silicon wafer?

Look at the picture below, that's a flash memory (flash memory is used for storage in computer and we have them in design i.e flash drive, memory card & SSD Card), the white image at the right is a single sheet of paper. See the depth of the paper under microscope, now imagine the depth of the flash memory which is about 96-136 layer of VNAND memory cells. Meanwhile, each memory cell is 3bit which mean a single cell can store 8byte of electron.

FRANCISTOWN:
No now. Stop this mental projection.

I haven't said anywhere that the human brain is a product of evolution. Therefore, you cannot engage me based on what I've not said.

Okay, let me ask then.

To you, do you think human brain was designed or through random evolution?

FRANCISTOWN:
Where have I said that the human brain came about thru random evolution?

As an Atheist, I know you won't agree that human brain was designed.

Computer components are well designed thru continuous upgrade( evolution).
Starting from the first generation computers.

@underlined is the key.

So, do you think human brain that is far higher and complex than any known computer today can be a work of evolution?

Computers can't act on their own. They operate in a specific way in relation to a specific kind of data. Humans decide what to do and what not to do. Computers can't do that.

Good, so why do you think a WELL DESIGNED computer who can't even be compared to that of human brain can't come through evolution but human brain can?

FRANCISTOWN:
Lol! Please pick up elementary science and introduction to computer components materials for basic two pupils. It's very important

Why do you believe human brain came about through random evolution but computer components ARE WELL designed even when the most supercomputer today can't match human brain?