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Jones4190:
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The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God

Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19) That means that he was not God

And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’ (Matthew 19:17)

Jesus did not teach people that he was God

If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus denied he was God.

I don't need to address your other post since you so centered your point on this one.

Now that you agreed that ONLY GOD is good.

Then Jesus must be God since Jesus is the GOOD shepherd.

Let's see the next twist you'll come with.

Hi Precious!

Notice that since i made that statement, he has been restless and looking for slight opportunity to get back to you. But the truth is, he knows he did it.

Lemme give you a small clue.

Here is a statement he made on one of his recent thread.

But let's examine those statement together.

Firstly, He said

"But let me share my past experience ON THIS FORUM.
Some turned me into a philanthropist because i shared my number with them"

Secondly, he said "ON THIS FORUM" which means Nairaland.

Thirdly, he said "Some turned me into a philanthropist because i shared my number with them"

We can then ask, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE he shared this CONTACT with?

This is a person even with that his old moniker that 99% of his post on Nairaland is on RELIGION SECTION. Could it be he shared this contact with his the so called BROTHERS ONLY?

Another thing we need to consider from that statement is that, he claimed

"That's when i decided to close all contacts with anyone on faceless social media and changed my account on Nairaland from maximus69 to MaxInDHouse."

Fourthly, the beginning of his statement seems it happened on Nairaland but at this point, it looks like it's not on Nairaland but another social media BUT THE RESULT of that leads to the deactivation of NAIRALAND account, which a reasonable MIND can ask, WHAT FOR Or Why would the action of another social media lead to Nairaland when no one can get your contact on Nairaland except both share their emails? You only need email to register with Nairaland and email isn't like phone number that you can claim people use to disturb you with.

In the concluding part of that statement he said

"So my friend i wish i could be of help but info on my my personal contact is a no go area. It's only selected JWs on this forum that can reach me! undecided"

This is what I'm talking about, Nairalander can only reach themselves via EMAIL ONLY and as we all know we can tune our eyes away from EMAIL, that's why people don't usually consider it as disturbance.

Lastly, if you want to hide your identity and keep people away from you, why must you change to a moniker that solely RESEMBLE the actual one the same people know you with?

Does it mean the same people can't reach you on a post you make comments?

And if he'll be honest with himself, let him tell us the TITLE of FIRST TWO threads he created on Nairaland with the moniker @Maximus69

MaxInDHouse:
Good morning Precious, how are you and hope you're coping with the situation of things around the world today?
Let's hope for the best in Jesus name, Amen!

I just want to remind you that your friend Emusan has refused to present the evidence to back his accusations.
This is the last statement i got from him when i reminded him:



That's how heartless people often lie face to face against the innocent all because they hate his choice of religion! Matthew 5:11-12

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Barristter07:
I take this to mean you don't understand anything yourself.

He would be lying to claim he is Yet, ( emphasis on Yet) to return to his Father when his Spirit has returned already.

Stop exposing your ignorance up and down.

Jesus' statement there didn't mean He HASN'T ASCENDED TO THE FATHER BEFORE that time but it's not YET the time to ASCEND FINALLY as He won't be SEEN again until the second coming.

God don't keep any dead human In prison. The Fact that the passage even single out Noah's days proved the spirit there are those wicked angels. To claim it's human is to claim God is partial in judgement.

The Bible says, Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS

That's why I first asked you, what is the essence of Jesus preaching to ALREADY CONDEMNED ANGELS for everlasting destruction? Which you codedly ignored.

I again asked, what is the impact of the message Jesus preached to this angels who are already CONDEMNED TO EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION? you pretended as you you didn't see that.

Finally, I've been asking, what is the MESSAGE Jesus preached to THIS ANGELS? Which you turned a blind eyes, as if you didn't see the question just because you know your lies will be exposed once again.

Evidences so far that human spirit is not a person.

- reffered as " it " Eccl 12:7

- Not the same as Jesus ( Luke 23:46)

The only one you presented fall like a pack of cards.

We can see human spirit , a thing personified to know, same applies to holy spirit. Further cemented by the Statement that no other conscious being in the universe can know what the son doesn't know about the Father.

Evidence that Human spirit is a person is that The spirit KNOWS what is in the mind of Man. ONLY A CONSCIOUS BEING have that ability.

Evidence that Holy Spirit is a person abound throughout the scripture.

As:

1. The Holy Spirit was called "HE"
2. The Holy Spirit said to BE ANOTHER ADVOCATE, if Holy Spirit isn't a person, then Jesus can't TALK about ANOTHER advocate.
3. The Holy Spirit Has MIND
4. the Holy Spirit has WILL
5. The Holy Spirit can be GRIEVED
6. the Holy Spirit is grouped along The Father and the Son, in many places in the scripture i.e Matt 28:19 & 1 John 5:7.
7. The Holy Spirit can be talked to and speak.
8. The Holy Spirit can teach.

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 13:9, NLT: "Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete,even the gift of prophecy reveals only part

Emusan LIENUS doing what he knows best.

You're still unable to address my point. Anyways, I don't expect much from you.

Here it is again.

Paul claimed inspiration that is why you and your 8 men can agreed that Paul's writings are INSPIRED & infallible.



Paul didn't acknowledge TO BE PERFECT

But did Paul CLAIMED THAT HIS TEACHINGS AND WRITINGS not PERFECT after claimed to be INPSIRED?



Capital NO!

MY question: Did Paul later claim that His teachings and writings not perfect and fallible after claimed to be INSPIRED?



Laughable Janosense!
No wonder you're so restless and deluded like your 8 men in Brooklyn

maximunimpact:
Yea! we already know the ORGANISATION doing his will today, thesame organisation that made the statement below

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

See how perfect that article described their own organization.

Janosky:
Galatians 1:1 was Paul inspired?

Paul claimed inspiration that is why you and your 8 men can agreed that Paul's writings are INSPIRED & infallible.

1 Corinthians 13:9, was Paul's acknowledge perfect?

Paul didn't acknowledge TO BE PERFECT

But did Paul CLAIMED THAT HIS TEACHINGS AND WRITINGS not PERFECT after claimed to be INPSIRED?

Was Paul himself perfect?
Was Peter infallible?

Capital NO!

MY question: Did Paul later claim that His teachings and writings not perfect and fallible after claimed to be INSPIRED?

Deluded WAILERS everywhere.
Wherever them hear that unique name - Jehovah's Witnesses, their temperature & BP go rise.

Laughable Janosense!
No wonder you're so restless and deluded like your 8 men in Brooklyn

Barristter07:
Holy spirit is not a person, that's why scripture say so. No conscious being can know what the Son doesn't know about the Father

Holy Spirit is a person and this was confirmed in my places in the scripture.

But the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God.

Barristter07:
I have not yet ascended

I have not yet ascended

I have not yet ascended.

Stop telling lies.

That Jesus statement is self explanatory unless to a toddler like you.

Besides, I'm still waiting for the answer to WHICH MESSAGE DID JESUS PREACH TO THE ANGELS IN PRISON?

The dead are not kept in prison. No scripture sanction that. 1Peter is not reffering to wicked humans. So God kept only the wicked people of Noah's day in prison, BUT NOT OTHERS ? You are even attacking God's impartiality just to maintain a false doctrine.

Where are the dead kept?

But the scripture says Jesus went and PREACHED TO TJE SPIRITS IN PRISON.

who are these SPIRITS?

Barristter07:
After his Ressurection, I have not YET ascended to the Father.

You no read am ?

So wetin return to the Father before ? Breath or Jesus ?
Orisirisi

That statement means "I'm not going to be with the Father forever NOW, I'm still here for sometimes, so go quickly and tell people of what you see instead of holding to me"

So this isn't Jesus claiming his spirit didn't go anywhere.

Kept where ? Prison ? Where is it written that the wicked are kept in prison ?

Besides we are still talking about the partiality in judgement.

In 1 Peter

You haven't answered my question.

Which message did Jesus preach to the dead in prison?

Barristter07:
I repeat no person, conscious being can know what the Son doesn't know about the Father.

But the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God.

It's as real as Jesus breath that return to the Father the day he died.

Na you sabi what is sure is that Holy Spirit is a person.

Barristter07:
E no get name ?

Besides only those of Noah went to this prison ?

What happen to others ?

I thought with God there is no partiality
Omoh

You didn't answer my question idiot

What message did Jesus preach to angels in prison.

Barristter07:
That makes Holy spirit a non person. NOBODY , persons can know what the son doesn't know about the Father



Omoh

Only a conscious being has ability of KNOWING

That makes the Holy Spirit to be a very real person.

Barristter07:
It's a person , yet Jesus himself didn't return to God ?

How do you know?

WHICH PRISON ? and where is it written that dead people are going to prison ?

Are the wicked not KEPT FOR DESTRUCTION?

Barristter07:
The scripture didn't say Jesus went there to help .

So what message did Jesus preach to them?

Again I ask: where is it written that the reward for sinners is Prison ?

The prison is the abode they are kept forgetting final judgment.

Barristter07:
No Person in the universe can know what the Son doesn't know about the Father .

We are clear . This spirit of God is not a person ...

But the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God.

Barristter07:
The same way human spirit was said to know .

Did Jesus return to Heaven the day he died ? His spirit return , didn't it ?

Yes because human spirit is a person.

Jesus went and preached to the dead in prison

Barristter07:
Matt 11:27


All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

According to Jesus no one knows the Father Except the son.

At Matt 24:36 the " Son " didn't know. That validate the statement that only the Father knows. What Jesus doesn't know. Nobody else can know.

To claim holy Spirit is a person that knows what Jesus knows is to contradict scripture and make Someone else Closer to the Father than Christ.

The scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God.

Only a conscious being has ability to KNOW

Barristter07:
Where is it written that the reward of sinners is prison?

What message did Jesus preach to the already CONDEMNED ANGLES?

Was the scripture lying that Jesus didn't come to help angels?

Barristter07:
Holy spirit cannot know what Jesus didn't know . Let it sink .


Unless we agree holy spirit is an instrument of the Father. Not a person

But Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God according to the scripture.

How can instrument HAVE ABILITY TO KNOW?

Barristter07:
No human goes to prison after death.

Revelation 20:13 even made it clear that anyone died in waters are not in hell but sea . This is where People of Noah's day belong.


Jde 1:6, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains, under darkness, unto the judgment of the great day."

This is the definition of prison. And Who say Jesus went there to help this angels ? You are deluded

You're still lying!

Angels who didn't keep their first estate have been condemned to everlasting destruction.

How does this make sense that Jesus PREACHED TO THEM again, even when the scripture was so clear about it that Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS but the seed of Abraham?

It's evident that Jesus preached to the dead human which are spirits.

Your lying mouth will forever be put to shame.

MaxInDHouse:
First and foremost, where is your evidence of the so called ponzi scheme?
Until you provide the evidence for that false accusation you'll, KEEP ON ASKING! Matthew 7:7

The most Ponzi scheme advocate, you'll ask for the evidence tire.

Using style to dodge question.... I understand bro

Barristter07:
If you didn't say so, If Jesus said he doesn't know something, what happens to every other person?

I can see the way you always boycotting my question.

You have to look at the perspective at which Jesus is talking.

Silence won't say " ONLY the Father " . This is a declaration of Fact

I've thrashed this.

Next!

Barristter07:
Scripture didn't say nobody else knows the Father like Jesus Christ ?

Scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God.

MaxInDHouse:
What is baffling is how some people claiming Christians feels a certain group is teaching heresy but instead of avoiding this heretics they're always yearning for what the so called heretics have to say!

Just as the hypocritical religious leaders among the first century Jews were saying Jesus and his disciples are heretics yet they're always yearning to converse with Jesus and his disciples, when they find out how competent Jesus and his disciples are in defending their faith with the scriptures they'll conclude that Jesus and his disciples have perfected their manipulation of the scriptures!

OK why not avoid them if they're truly demonic?
NO! This antagonists won't do that instead they are agitating that Jesus and his disciples mustn't talk in the public exactly what this people are trying to do now!

Do you avoid other people you always castigate in your publications?

You people will be dishing out different lies but when you are scrutinized you come up with different story of being victimized.

Anyways, still on the matter, can you help us reconcile these two statements from the stable of your darling organization?

"The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327

"The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers." Awake! 1993 Mar 22 p.4

Barristter07:
So this is why I asked: Did holy spirit knows the Father than the son ?

***But you turn yourself to the Father by claiming you KNOW WHO JESUS MORE.

Scripture never said anything about that but we do know from the scripture that the Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God and only a BEING WITH CONSCIOUSNESS has ability to KNOW.

Even more is when scripture places the three together as ONE 1 John 5:7

Barristter07:
I did becaus I know holy spirit was personified.

So what did Scripture try to explain by PERSONIFYING Holy spirit as KNOWING THE VERY MIND OF GOD?

On what basis did you say holy spirit know what Jesus doesn't know when Jesus said no person knows the Father like him ?

I didn't say so, but the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God.

With such attributes, it means Jesus decided to be silent on that basis.

Barristter07:
Yes.

Not dead people .

Now, your lying mouth is about to be busted.

First, the scripture says Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS but the deluded JWs says yes Jesus did.

CEV: Jesus clearly did not come to help angels, but he did come to help Abraham’s descendants. Heb 2:16

This is evident that what 1 Peter 3 was saying is actually human spirit in prison.

Revelation 20:13

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them

Those in the sea are not in hell . Didn't your prison analogy fall like a pack of cards ?

Jesus didn't come to help angels- scripture
And that Rev 20 isn't about Noah's time only, so if you understand that then you will know what the verse is saying.

Barristter07:
I love this. So you agree no one else can know the Father like Jesus

You agree that HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD.

Barristter07:
Jesus knows its not a person. Hence the lack of mention. If Jesus think holy spirit is a person, he would not have said ONLy the Father knows

Did Jesus THINK Holy Spirit is a PERSON or Jesus KNOWS Holy Spirit is a person.

This is why you are deluded. The answer is clear. Holy spirit was personified

On what basis did Jesus personify Holy Spirit?

Same scripture said Nobody knows the Father like Jesus . Are you trying to say holy spirit knows what Jesus didn't know ?

Delusion grandeur

The scripture says HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD.

Can someone know YOUR VERY MIND and didn't know everything about you?

Oponu radarada

Barristter07:
Sometimes you realize knowledge is essential. Aren't angels called Spirits ? The text is clear enough. Angels of Noah's day

Angels are called "IT" another version from the stable of the most delusional.

Where in that verse did Angels were mentioned.

Keep adding to your delusion

God didn't keep any human in a prison . They are all in the sea, they died in water ( Rev 20:13)

So you agree Jesus preach to angels in the prison, right?

That prison ( or hell) as some claimed changed the whole narrative. Nobody who died in water goes to hell

Says who?

Where is the scripture!

Barristter07:
He is fully aware holy spirit is not a person hence the lack of mention.

Ole...

That's not the question!
Here it is again, did Jesus know that Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God?

Nobody else can know the Father like Jesus Christ. And for Jesus not to know the day and hour, not even anyone else can

But the scripture says HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD.

Who should we believe, you or the scripture?

Barristter07:
I have . Can someone else knows the Father's mind like Jesus ?

Didn't the scripture say "the Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS OF GOD" and also "knows the very mind of God."?

Inanimate thing knows your god mind