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Janosky:
[s]**1 Continue DECEIVING yourself,Mr LIENUS.
You have proven to this public forum that Jesus words @ John 20:17 & Revelation 3:12 did not reach your heart.
It ended on the pages of your Bible.[/s]

As usual very shallow and incoherent reasoning and application of Scripture.

**2
Let's use Trinitarian Amplified Bible to compare William Tyndale's Bible.
I have given you the example of 1 Timothy 3:16.
Others are 1 John 5:7, Genesis 16:7,Malachi 3:1, Matthew 6:13. Mark 9:43.Amplified Bible.
I challenge you Emusan to produce evidence that William Tyndale's Bible agreed with the Greek1 rendition of the Trinitarian Amplified Bible in the examples given.

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And great, we confess, is the mystery [the hidden truth] of godliness:
He (Jesus Christ) who was revealed in human flesh,"

Oponu the great JaNosense!

I said Williams Tyndale Bible agreed with 99% of Trinitarian Bibles ,can you see the reason why you're a deluded and ignorant somebody?

So Amplified Bible is part of 1%

Now, why did the same Williams Tyndale Bible so DEFER from your NWT demonic translation?

Mr LIENUS

Genesis 1:26 JEHOVAH said "let us make man"
JEHOVAH spoke to Jesus Christ the morning Star & angel of the Lord (Rev 22:16, Gen16:7,13) in the presence of other angels @ Job 38:1-7, who ALL saw the Creation of man & the earth.
Numbers 23:19, " God is NOT a man that tell lies."
@ Genesis 1:27, Job 38:1-7, Isaiah 44:24 & Proverbs 8:26. 1 Corinthians 8:6. Jehovah did NOT lie.

JaNosense, I wonder how you pass your O'level and I just pray your children won't inherit this dumbness.

I'm still looking for where Bible called Jesus ANGEL, just your delusional idea.

Jesus Christ is NOT the Creator.

But Jehovah used him to CREATE other things

Is this not self deceit?

Romans 11:35-36,JEHOVAH is the Creator of Jesus Christ
No twisting, This is Scriptural fact.
@Genesis 1:26-27.Job 38:1-7, angels are imprint of God's image.
"To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE".

And Jesus created you....which means He is your creator.

Genesis 1:26-7.Job 38:1-7, Isaiah 44:24 etc.
JWs can NEVER challenge Scriptural authority.

But forcing scripture to say Jesus is archangel Michael, isn't that a granular delusion?

Janosky:
The man who lied that Hosea and John have nothing in common.
Emusan LIENUS says Both Hosea and John were not inspired by God to write the Bible Emusan hides in his locker.

Just see how you keep exposing your ignorance as usual.

You quoted Hosea 12:3-4 & John 1:1 which is what I referred to as they don't have ANYTHING IN COMMON.

Just see ignorance speaking.

O ma se oooooooo.... The great JaNosense!

MaxInDHouse:
Please brother Janosky Emusan derive pleasure in exchanging words with JWs so don't give him that satisfaction!

You can keep consoling yourself

I've had different discussion with different people on this forum even before you dream of becoming a member on Nairaland and I'll continue.

Even the person you're advising knows better than you.

MaxInDHouse:

Who asked you to talk before?

MaxInDHouse:
You accused someone OK where is the evidence? You promised to bring it and up till now you can't. Instead of apologizing you're still arrogant over the false accusations.
Well i'm not surprised you've proved to be an accuser from day one.
So until you provide the evidence of your allegations or apologize remain patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Mr Ponzi scheme promoter, you don't know anything.

If I didn't see that on your DEACTIVATED ACCOUNT I won't say it, so you can continue to say jargons.

Well like I do say, I didn't force you to reply my post but just to be exposing your lies. So if you want evidence that Matthew 7:7 is perfectly for you.

Imagine, the deluded even talking about apologizing

MaxInDHouse:
He doesn't understand a single thing due to his hatred for JWs!

Just as your hatred for the king of Glory, King of Kings, The ONLY TRUE and Wise God, Our Savior Jesus Christ is taking sleep away from your eyes.

I said Trinitarians were trying to stop people from finding out their secrets the ọ̀dẹ̀ is talking about being a Trinitarian!

Oponu....if Trinitarian are trying to keep people away from their secrets, why was Williams Tyndale Bible so close 99% with Other Trinitarian Bibles we have today than your demonic translation?

Even Russell and his team were trinitarians before the light got brighter when they had freedom of speech, expression and worship.

The light got brighter yet they still DIED as idol worshippers.

He doesn't know that the real Pharisees aren't interested in the truth they just want to keep their old tradition whether it's yielding positive results or not!

Of course we know the real Pharisees here, who always twist the scripture.

To the essence of say ALL ANGELS ARE EXCERT IMPRINT OF GOD'S IMAGE.

Something that even your demonic organization can never claimed.

Lamentations! Our teachings don't yield positive results yet we are more in than your demonic organization of over 100years with fruitless efforts just because they're not ABIDE IN JESUS.

Janosky:
Both Men are JEHOVAH'S Servants inspired by the same God to write down your Bible.

Emusan LIENUS

As usual attacking strawman.

JaNosense

MaxInDHouse:
Have you come to show everyone the proof of the allegation?

As you blind that's why you didn't see the proof.

Janosky:
Juxtapose Hosea 12:3-4 & John 1:1 Greek interlinear screenshot.
Is Jesus the word the God?
"Emusan go dodge the Bible truth as usual."
Yes ,he did. He no fall my hand.

One thing people know you for on this forum is that you never make any sense because your points always go off the subject matter.

Hosea and John have nothing in common.

Jesus is the word of God, any problem with that?

Janosky:
Yet , your Trinitarian mentors burnt him to ashes.

You didn't answer my questions.

So can you provide where Williams Tyndale Bible negates Trinitarian Bible?

Janosky:
LIENUS as usual.

Hosea 12:3-4.
Is the angel God ?

Jesus is angel of the Lord, JEHOVAH.
Emphasis on "OF".

Juxtapose Hosea 12:3-4 & John 1:1 Greek interlinear screenshot.
Is Jesus the word the God?
Emusan go dodge as usual

Where was it stated that Jesus is the Angel of Jehovah.

But it was stated clearly that Gabriel is the Angel of Jehovah.

So are you saying Jesus is now Gabriel?

MaxInDHouse:
I believe it's time to PRESENT the original Greek Scriptures where all those translators got what you're arguing about now.
Check the first Greek text translated "God" then compare to the second that we rendered "a god"
Some none trinitarian scholars translated the second Greek text as "divine" or "Godlike" or "like God" this was why there arose lots of persecutions during the dark ages because the trinitarians don't want their secrets to be leaked, they were killing those who try to Interpret God's word behind them!
You can Google "William Tyndale"
So calm down and learn!

You mean Williams Tyndale isn't a Trinitarian?

This your delusion has graduated to another level.

Tyndale included 1 John 5:7 in his Bible

So what exactly are you insinuating about Tyndale?

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what matters to me because it's obvious you just want to continue arguing.

And you're not arguing bah....

Well God's word said someone was with God during creation!

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God! KJV

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was a god! NWT

And the same God's word said ONLY GOD PERFORMED THE WHOLE ACT OF CREATION even the Prove 8 you always try to twist still confirmed this.

No matter how you try to twist it i'll not continue arguing fruitlessly when God's word says someone worked with God during creation!

Always accuse people of arguing yet this is the same deluded person who spends all his days on faceless forum particularly on religion section.

If anyone should be accused of involving in arguments it should be you.

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
Because they're all spirit beings like God.

I know some of what you say on this forum has no root in deep doctrine of your organization.

The claim neither none of your dead GB nor the ones alive ever made is what you're making here, yet thinking you're making sense.

Temmylee02:
werey you wan run am street

Why calling me werey?

I didn't expect such from you because your thread was about "WHAT PROFITABLE BUSINESS...START WITH" and I suggest if we can PARTNER.

After all, I didn't say you should bring the money or send it to me.

LordReed:
While I can see what you are trying to say I have some objections.

OK! After all it's a free world.

You don't know how the NL moderating structure is setup so you are in no position to say this. Also Seun can easily change it such that a moderator can ban him.

Beautiful, so if Seun actually did that, will you consider him to be too WEAK for HIS OWN moderators to have power to ban him?

Like you consider it ridiculous for God to become a man and got killed by His own creation?

Seun not being subject to that rule doesn't mean he CAN'T be subject. Once again he can make that change for whatever reason he deems fit.

You've said it ALL by saying "he CAN'T BE SUBJECTED"

Don't you think this is how Bible describes God too?

Not necessarily true. If Seun sells Nairaland he will need to devolve himself of all privileges he used to enjoy and if under that circumstance he deactivates his account nothing happens to NL.

If "HE SELLS" that closed the case.

Like I said I see what you are saying and it only makes sense if your god has limitations.

You still haven't proved how Seun has limitations AS THE OWNER OF NAIRALAND yet.

talentarena:
Please house i need your advise, eaither buy a house, invest or relocate abroad. I am 28 years old single, run series of business at the moment but they are not stable

Can we partner?

This Business is a unique one.

The Business Plan reached the final stage and was selected in a program organized by a popular First Class King in Nigeria (I don't want to mention name here) and it has reached the second last stage of Tony Elumelu Foundation.

Just that the funds aren't released yet but with half of the money you have will can bring the business to life.

Let me hear your opinion...

kingxsamz:
Yeah, but Seun would have to follow the rules

The same point shows you don't understand the OP because that was the reason for this thread in the first place


If SEUN has to follow the rules, how come he was able to create topic and comment under ISLAM FOR MUSLIMS section without taking the OATH?

and procedures like every other member if he wants to comment, post and create threads. There's nothing he can do to bypass that.

Procedure is different from rules!

Didn't God follow the same procedure to interact with man by becoming man? Do you see that as procedure or myth?

He's still under his own rules which negates the OP

Seun isn't under HIS OWN rules, if not he won't be able to create topic and comment under Islam for Muslims section without taking the OATH.

kingxsamz:
lol, this guy. You're still on this?
I thought I shut you up already.

See how you're priding in your ignorance when it's so obvious to people here that you don't even understand the OP.

You can't make use of a logic and select what part of the logic that suits your agenda. The owner of Nairaland is bound by the rules on Nairaland in terms of commenting, posting, creating threads. Even his account was created. His site can still be attacked. The government can still shut down his website, he can't post without clicking the buttons. I'm sure you can't apply the same logic for your god. Your thread is a lost cause. Rest in Jesus name.

That's why I keep wondering how the people who always PARADING THEMSELVES as having highest IQ than religious people usually making use of this IQ.

Even though, you point is out of the OP but to grant it, YES! I can apply the same logic to my God.

You people always want God to REVEAL HIMSELF but how can God do this in His ALMIGHTINESS and human will understand Him?

That's why like SEUN (clicking reply button, creating account e.t.c to be part of Nairaland as HAVING THE ADMIN ACCESS) God also took part in His creation:

1. By becoming a Human to take away sin
2. He appeared to Abraham in form of Man
3. He eat food that human being eats e.t.c

But just like some one said above, you didn't understand the OP, so I don't need to say much.

Janosky:
Sifia pained WAILER
Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible.
Before you were born your Trinitarian mentors have known that Jesus Christ is an angel of the Lord, Jehovah.
ALL angels whether Gabriel, Jesus Christ the Archangel Michael are Angels of the Lord, Yahweh.
1 Corinthians 3:23, Jesus Christ belongs to who?

It's now Amplified Bible not Geneva Bible again

Your ranting is just so sweet.

So ALL ANGELS are called Angels of the Lord but your brother with the same line of thought still asking how we can unravel the identity of the same Angel of Jehovah who spoke like Jehovah in the Old Testament.

One of the seventh wonders of deluded JWs


Still no where Jesus Christ was called Micheal.

Janosky:
Daniel 10:13, Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.
Genesis 3:15, the seed defeats the serpent.
Revelation 12:7-9,who is the seed? Who is the serpent? Who defeated the serpent?
1 John 3:8, who defeats the devil?

Matthew 26:53, how many angels does Jehovah have?
@ Acts 5:19, is that angel of Jehovah the person of Jesus Christ?

@ Acts 12:11,23, is that angel of JEHOVAH the person of Jesus Christ?

Angels of Jehovah are myriads of myriads.
Very many Legions of them.

As usual pilling up Mumbo Jumbo.

To your dull skull, Luke identy the Angel of the Lord to be Gabriel, do you need primary school pupil to explain that to you?

Anyways, no scripture yet that says Jesus is Michael but the scripture says Gabriel is Angel of Jehovah.

haddeylium:
Did you read what I wrote at all?

Very well!

Did you read mine too?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the Archangel Michael!

Yet no Biblical evidence for this.

Before we can successfully unravel this we need to start considering the Bible from the beginning and meditate on each reference made regarding the angel of Jehovah (NWT) or angel of the Lord (KJV)

©When was this angel first mentioned?
©Is there any reference we can relate him to in the first five books of the Bible?
©Why is he called the angel of Jehovah when there are many other angels belonging to Jehovah?
©How many angels did the reveal their names?

When we're through with this then we can move on to the next stage.
We can't jump to later references and think we are going to comprehend who the angel of Jehovah is if we didn't start from the beginning!

If I told you to come for Bible study, you'll refuse. Now see how you're show casing your ignorance here.

Even the fact that you don't know that the same ANGEL OF THE LORD still mentioned in the New Testament after Jesus already in Mary's womb is so glaring.

If Jesus is the Angel of Jehovah and the same Angel of Jehovah became FULLY HUMAN (according to your belief) who now already in Mary's womb, how come the same Angel of Jehovah appeared and talked to Joseph in the dream?

Maybe, Jesus disappeared from womb that time.

"But after he had thought these things over, look! Jehovah’s* angel appeared to him in a dream,..." Matt 1:20 NWT

"But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream,..." Matt 1:20 KJV

Gabriel was called Angel of the Lord in Luke 1:11 "And there appeared unto him [Zechariah] the angel of the LORD standing on the right side of altar of incense"

And in your thread Study bible with jws you already depicted Gabriel as a cruel Angel more than Micheal. Now Jesus is also Gabriel

haddeylium:
Do you know the Mosaic law contains many prophetic patterns, as well as prophecies, that are faith strengthening? To consider them and others visit JW.ORG

Thank you and have a great day

But your organization put themselves under the same Mosaic law to convince you to reject Blood transfusion.

Who is fooling who here?

Bishopkingsley:
The problem of JW is that they don't believe God has the power to be in heaven and equally be on earth at the same time

You get it, that's why you can't see them using the phrases omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent.

Their god is so limited and ALL THIS IS JUST TO DENY THE DIVINITY OF JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT.

I once asked a JWs that, is it possible for God to be in ALL STATES of Nigeria at the same time? NO straight answer was given because he knows he'll go against the scripture.

OneMarvee:
Thank you for taking the time to expatiate on the topic. Really thoughtful points you made there. God bless you

I guess you couldn't read through the contradictions in that post before you consider it THOUGHTFUL.

Lemme point it out to you.

But, death is not the end of man. Thanks be to God, there's a resurrection of the dead (1 Corinthians 15:12-58). Some will be resurrected to eternal life [the righteous] whilst some [the wicked] will be resurrected to eternal condemnation or punishment, i.e, dying for all eternity without ever living again (Daniel 12:2, Matthew 25:46, John 5:28-29). But first, the dead must remain in their graves with no consciousness at all, till the resurrection hour.

Notice the @color:
1. Some will be resurrected to eternal life
2. Some will be RESURRECTED to ETERNAL CONDEMNATION OR PUNISHMENT i.e DYING for all eternal without ever LIVING again.

To understand this, you need to know the meaning of RESURRECTION!

resurrection simply means BRING BACK TO LIFE.

So how can one claim that "some people will be RESURRECTED (bring back to life) to eternal condemnation or punishment but still continue DYING for all eternal without ever LIVING again?

This defiles logic!

The truth is, the person knows that BOTH THE RIGHTEOUS AND UNRIGHTEOUS will be resurrected as scripture said but they must find a way to twist that verse.

achorladey:
A better best group under the better performing group go soon emanate

He has quota to fill "atheist" platform is providing the succour.

I'm telling you

I hope all the time he spends on Nairaland is part of his weekly report shall because the way he's so restless on Nairaland is too suspicious?

MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome!

Now the honourable conductor is asking me, what Bible can teach you? But not read to discuss with me. Wonders of JWs!

MaxInDHouse:
Good morning my honourable follower!

Good morning honourable conductor!

MaxInDHouse:
I'm welcoming you once again my honourable follower, but on the questions you raised regarding the topic of discussion, you have to wait until you PRESENT the proof of the allegation you levelled against me!

Ponzi scheme promoter read Matt 7:7

FOLYKAZE:
Yeah I understand now

With your last paragraph, I don't think you fully understand.

Well, he is the owner and has admin access to the back end of website. This may makes it appear his 'seun' moniker is not bounded by the rules of Nairaland.

Yes you're right and that is the essence of this thread, which means SEUN isn't bound by the rules because you can't have admin access and still be limited.

He is actually bounded by programming laws. Remember few years ago, Nairaland forum lose some data. I can remember seun posts and threads were lost to that drainage. Therefore, Seun is bounded by some laws.

Laws of PROGRAMMING is different in this case and outside Nairaland.

The fact that Nairaland still stand today is an evidence that SEUN can't be limited by the rules because had it been he is limited it will be very difficult to recover.

He is not Almighty and do not matches God.

Nobody says this!

XXXXTENTACION:
well the culture, the society and beliefs gets to decide whats evil and wicked....

BELIEFS

Culture and society still rely on HUMAN THOUGHT, culture or society won't just puff out what is evil and wicked.