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Janosky:So you know there are several firstborn in the Bible which are used literally and Jesus Christ is one but you and your lying brothers have been interpreting "Firstborn of every Creature" to mean FIRSTCREATED BEING You can even see how your darling Geneva Bible is exposing your lying mouth the mouth. This post needs to be bookmarked! |
Barristter07:Oponu oniro radarada! If John was describing were events that HAPPENED IN THE PAST in relation to Jesus ministry with the Jews then it also means The Jews were already RESURRECTED because it read " "And they WERE BORN" When your lying mouth was exposed you have to twist mouth again. Besides, the basis of verse 12-13 is what you pointed out in that verse 11 "he came to own homeland and his OWN PEOPLE did not receive him" because of this is, verse 12 "But TO AS MANY as did receive him, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God, CJB No how you twisted it or the version of the Bible you run to, your lying mouth will keep expose. Not at all, read again.It is! Mr lying liar like your father the devil. Even the CJB you run to still expose your lying mouth. Are you part of the MANY that did receive him and put your trust in his person and power? Your last question doesn't show you understand how Christ Ressurection works. Many unrighteous persons would gain Ressurection too by virtue of this same Ressurection. So the Fact that someone benefit from Christ death and Ressurection doesn't make them born again. Change that silly idea. ANYONE can benefit from Christ Ressurection , born again or not.This is the ignoramus we do talk about. ONLY BELIEVERS benefit from Christ RESURRECTION which is what Peter addressed and that makes ALL BELIEVERS TO BE BORN AGAIN. I see how you dubiously boycotted my point on 1 John. Ole... Quote that Peter in Full pleaseImagine, I should quote Peter in full, is that how you quote scripture in full? 1 Peter 1:3-4 again "...he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead," It's evident from here that it is through the resurrection of Jesus Christ that BELIEVES ARE BORN AGAIN About 2 Peter 1:4 this is the intro of it "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, TO THEM that have OBTAINED LIKE PRECIOUS FAITH WITH US through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ KJV From here, we can see that Peter didn't direct his statement to selected group but INDIVIDUAL who has OBTAINED THE SAME PRECIOUS FAITH LIKE HIS. The question is, do you obtain a precious faith like that of Peter? keep lying for your 8 men and demonic organization. |
DappaD:Of course, I don't expect my post to make any sense to you. I literally told you that Jehovah will have adopted spirit sons in heaven(Romans 8:16) provided they remain faithful to death(Hebrews 3:14)I like the way you said, ***"You literally..."*** which means it's your personal view not that of the Holy Word of God. and human sons and daughters on earth(Romans 8:21) provided they remain faithful after the millennial rule of Christ. Revelation 20:1-3And the reason I quoted John 1:12-13 that scripture actually says ALL WHO BELIEVE AND RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST ARE BORN AGAIN Which you haven't be able to prove false but just jumping up and down. Emusan, you no get talk for mouth.Dappad, you that has talk for mouth, why twisting the scripture? |
Barristter07:I do say it, your dubious act is what keeps you under the bondage of your father the Devil for so long. Now it's about using PAST TENSES. See how this will put you in more trouble now. Verse 13 "And they WERE BORN, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God." So to you, these people are ALREADY REBIRTH even before Christ paid the ultimate sacrifice and not yet resurrected. Everyone can see your dubious act and the reason why you're twisting that verse. We are clear that John 1:12 is not reffering to every believer , So yes many believer's in Christ will live forever on Earth . Like John the Baptist, the repentant theif etc . This one's excercise Faith but are not born again.We can see that John 1:12-13 is for everyone as you tried to twist. All believers are BORN AGAIN even your lying organization said marginal reference to that john 1:13 is 1 John 3:9 which says "Everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin..." What is the criteria John listed in his epistles as to be born from God? Ans: EVERYONE who believes that Jesus is CHRIST is BORN OF GOD. 1 John 5:1 I can also see how you stylishly pushed aside that 1 Peter which says "...who according to His great mercy has caused us to be BORN AGAIN to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead," Peter affirmed that THROUGH THE RESURRECTION of CHRIST we are BORN AGAIN. Was resurrection of Christ only for selected people? |
DappaD:What so amazing about this is how you just keep jumping my point So you mean John 1:12-13 was about After millennial rule of Christ and not people who DID RECEIVE HIM as scripture says? But for now, we’re still children of wrath(Romans 5:12) until we pass the final test. Revelation 20:1-3Of course, I know all Jws are children of wrath because they belong to their father the Devil And the born again also are still children of wrath for now My question is still pending since two days now:That was the reason I quoted that Matt 5 to show you that the criteria of inherit earth was to be MEEK. Do you say those who will rule with Jesus aren't MEEK? |
MaxInDHouse:You're welcome! |
MaxInDHouse:If it got to that, people like Seun and mods will be summoned to court and your posts on your deleted moniker will be made available. Just like I said, you feel there's no evidence because you took down that moniker but I promise you, I'll get to root of this just wait and see. I understand your fear, you thought nobody was aware of those threads then but since I brought it up, your blood has been boiling. |
DappaD:Yes and the scripture confirmed that ALL BELIEVERS receive the new birth. John 1:12-13 says "However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name." NWT since they cannot take their fleshly bodies to heaven(1Corinthians 15:50), they will need to be transformed to become spirit beings(John 3:6)How will they be TRANSFORMED? Are they not BORN AGAIN OR REBIRTH anymore? Funny you, or you forgot EVERYONE will be RESURRECTED. I strongly believe that those who have this inheritance will number a total of 144,000. Revelation 7:1-3, 14:1-5Well, you have right to believe what you want but not what the scripture says because the window is opened to "To ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM" So, it can't be limited to 144,000 because millions did receive him. The question is, will those whom Jesus said would have their inheritance on earth, need to be born again? Matthew 5:5Matt 5:5 says "Blessed are the meek and gentle—they will inherit the earth." The people Jesus said will INHERIT the earth are THE MEEK, are you saying those who'll have heavenly inheritance are not MEEK & GENTLE? If yes, of what use will it be since Revelation 21:3 says that it is mankind(flesh and blood) that will inherit the blessings listed in Revelation 21:4?But the fact still remains that, "TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM" they are BORN AGAIN. Question! Who will born those who have their inheritance on earth? |
MaxInDHouse:That's what the scripture says not me, so if you think you're up to that criteria then you're a born again. |
MaxInDHouse:You created two threads with your deleted moniker @Maximus69 promoting Ponzi Scheme....I said it before and I'll say it again. You can hit your dull skull on the wall. Scammer JWs! I know it pains you whenever your evil deeds are brought open because as a hypocrite, you're always pretending to be an Angel of Light just like your father the Devil. |
Barristter07:I understand because you have comprehension issue I don't expect you to grab the point, which is the reason you keep perambulating. Here is the main point from John 1:12-13 12 However, TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they were exercising faith in his name.... Bible is very cleared here "TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM..." Not from man's will but God.Yes! The rebirth isn't from man's will but God but the promise is "To ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM" Unless you're claiming God is lying here! [s]just as you can feel the wind but cant tell or dictate it's movement. It's not for a man to decide to be born again.[/s]Who claimed that it's man who decided to be born again or not? The point is WHO EVER BELIEVES IN CHRIST IS BORN AGAIN or REBIRTH 1Peter 3 highlighted the point that those rebirth will be spirit persons , sharers of the Divine nature., God own nature , Spirit. It called it a " PROMISE "Liar! That's not 1 Peter 3 point. The point is, ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN AGAIN as a result of Christ Dead. That is the DEATH OF CHRIST makes ALL BELIEVERS to be BORN AGAIN not selected people. [s]This is different from the Human nature given those who will live forever on Earth . Revelation 21:3,4 . Gods spirit nature doesn't have flesh and blood. God created them , birth them from Adam. But didn't rebirth them as Spirit sons.The question you're still dodging is, those who will live forever on Earth DO THEY BELIEVE/RECEIVE CHRIST? John 1:12 says "However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name. |
Barristter07:Only in your head not from the Holy word of God. And see the way the deluded shameless boycotted John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 3 The gift of everlasting life is for those who show Faith in Christ.We're talking about REBIRTH, ode! The rebirth is what lead to everlasting life. Rev 21:4, john 3:8 even proved that God choose who undergo this rebirth, not a matter of being a believer, !See the way the shameless lying liar keep boycotting that John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 3 Does John 1:12-13 look like GOD CHOOSES WHO UNDERGO this rebirth? Lying liar JWs like your father the devil. This got Interesting: What is born of spirit "IS SPIRIT " means?And what is born of flesh is flesh? Who give birth to those who will live forever on earth? Emphasis on the phrase " Is spirit " . Tell us what you know.Emphasis on the "BORN OF flesh is flesh" In addition: 12 However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they were exercising faith in his name.+ 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God. NWT Who are these verses talking about? |
MaxInDHouse:The point is, does the TERM Born Again has different meanings? But according to Jesus being BORN AGAIN means being born of water and spirit! John 3:5This is so sweet, are ALL believers not BORN OF WATER and Spirit? Please can you tell me what you mean by born again?Born again is the regenerated or rebirth that ANYONE who accepts Christ will experience as John 1:12-13 put it . 12 But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. 13 They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God. NLT 12 However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they were exercising faith in his name.+ 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God. NWT Now, the question is, do you exercise faith in him? |
Barristter07:What is this one ![]() I don't really know what your problem is here. Are you now shifting goal post to mean the Lord here is Jesus Christ. That would be hilarious. Your attempt to pin the Spirit at 2Cor 3:17 to holy Spirit has failed , because holy spirit does not have a spirit of its own. Once again, shifting it to Jesus Christ would be hilarious...If not because you're so dull, what does Trinity entails? 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Lord is the Spirit" the Spirit here is the one in Vs 8 You can hit your dull skull on the wall! |
MaxInDHouse:Thanks for the compliment but know that this is bookmarked! I was chatting with a young lady who has been misinformed about God's people and you ran into the discussion only to lay false accusations,The young lady was giving you severe painment and frustration, you have to dig deep into her previous post to present something different entirely to the subject matter in other to derail her thread. Which is what I addressed by saying, you hypocrite was once promoting a Ponzi scheme on this forum with your DEACTIVATED ACCOUNT @Maximus69 OK provide evidence of your false accusations and you came up with the most stupid comment ever on Nairaland:Your blood is hot because you know you're a liar and hypocrite. That's why you are so pained since I exposed your hypocrite. If you're so sure I'm lying, tell this forum the title of your first-two post with the account name @Maximus69. |
Janosky:The lying liar JWs like his father the Devil still leaving in self denial and severe painment. Is Jesus Christ not THE POWER AND WISDOM OF GOD? You haven't answered this but keep perambulating like a lost soul. |
Janosky:See painment from the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil. This is my post again: Christ said to be THE POWER and THE WISDOM of God! Now, the lying liar JWs like his father the devil with faulty understanding of: The Power of God not a person The Wisdom of God not a person Agreed that the Son is a person! |
MaxInDHouse:I lied yet you can't counter my claim by providing the screenshot of your profile for the account @Maximus69 so that people can see my lies. See painment, your useless frustration life just started. As your mumu god keep inspires you to defraud people. |
MaxInDHouse:Why? because I'm exposing your fraudulent acts here! I know it pains you since I brought that issue up because the shame is too much for you to bear. But just like I said, I'm still trying everything possible to make sure I find those threads and I'm sure you'll be put to shame once again. |
Janosky:Kindly do that for us! And besides, as usual you can bring in your darling Geneva Bible opinion here let's see what it says concerning those verses ![]() |
Janosky:Christ said to be THE POWER and THE WISDOM of God! Now, the lying liar JWs like his father the devil with faulty understanding of: The Power of God not a person The Wisdom of God not a person Agreed that the Son is a person! |
MaxInDHouse:Where is the lies? I said you once created two threads on this forum promoting Ponzi scheme. I saw them before you deleted your previous moniker @Maximus69 You can keep deny it because that account was deleted but anyone who has ever viewed your profile then will see those threads. |
CAPTIVATOR:At least first admit that spirit can have spirit! Then we'll enter the next face |
Barristter07:When the lying liar mouth is exposed, the next thing is to be grasping for air. Now that you boldly say THE SPIRIT at 2 Corinthians 3:17 is the FATHER This is what that verse says "Now the Lord is the Spirit..." Which means the SPIRIT here was once mentioned somewhere which we can trace back to verse 8 "will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?" Where was the Father ever associated with the MINISTRY OF THE SPIRIT in the scripture? |
Barristter07:So which means every human will live forever on EARTH.... It's very obvious how you're trying to twist the scripture because every honest Bible believing students know that John 1:12-13 and 1 Peter I quoted earlier were strictly for BELIEVERS not EVERY HUMAN. Rebirth is another kind of birth. And not all believers share in it.Liar.... Just say John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter aren't for ALL BELIEVERS...opuro oshi Here it is again: "But as MANY as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12-13 1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused US to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. kjv @highlightedTo you they are not but scripture makes it cleared that THEY ARE REBIRTH because to be REBIRTH is to BORN AGAIN which both John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 1:3 are all about. What the spirit born is Spirit. They still maintain their Human birth. Take a clue from Jesus Ressurection of people, after their Ressurection as human , the people still retain their parent , brothers and sisters nature. Their Human father's are still their Father. Still that same birth. Not a Rebirth , those experiencing rebirth took God's Divine nature.And scripture proves that ALL BELIEVERS are BORN AGAIN which is through SPIRIT. The lying liar mouth now change from BORN AGAIN to Rebirth and the deluded forgot that both still mean the same thing. When John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 1:3 boldly talking about BORN AGAIN/REBIRTH of ALL BELIEVERS. Is born again different from REBIRTH? |
Barristter07:@color so you know that Jehovah (spirit) have his own spirit which we can then say "Spirit of the Spirit(jehovah) and you first make a mockery of yourself by saying "spirit of the Holy Spirit" which means to you spirit can't said to have SPIRIT. Just keep exposing your ignorance and lying mouth! |
Barristter07:Lying liar JWs like your father the devil. Your last post was just boycotted my point not was addressed. If Every believer is born again, All of them would have had the hope of becoming Spirit persons like God. But is that the case? Revelation 21:4 is there for you, are those sinners ?You first came with "What is BORN of spirit is spirit" to explain that why SOME PEOPLE are Born again and other aren't. But I countered that by providing various verses that say "ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF GOD, who is a Spirit" But the same deluded you, start to change the meaning of BORN AGAIN to mean BECOMING SPIRIT PERSON, RESURRECTION AS A SPIRIT PERSON ...It's high time you check your understanding of those verses. God created everyone , believer and unbeliever. We can as well say [b]God born everyone through human father's,You see what I usually say, your lying mouth is easily to get exposed. God BORN EVERYONE through human Father's....lying liar JWs! John 1:12-13 wasn't about EVERYONE, likewise 1 Peter I quoted earlier. But it's very clear that born in this context is different, not just a matter of God creating a person through human Father's, but he himself adopted, rebirth those having part in first Ressurection . This make them future Spirits sons.The @color says it all I don't need to add anything else. Or care to explain What does the expression what is born of spirit " is spirit " means ?My question is, ARE NOT ALL BELIEVERS BORN OF GOD WHO IS A SPIRIT? No wonder you changed BORN TO RESURRECTION and still foolishly say "himself adopted, rebirth those having part in first Ressurection" Are the people who will live forever on earth not ADOPTED, REBIRTH AND RESURRECTED? Ole oshi |
Barristter07:You see what I do use to say! Now, you just in one dubious way, swiped aside my point but cling to your delusion. Here is my post again and questions I asked. @color 1Provide answers to my questions above! |
Barristter07:When you don't have meaningful to say! Does insertion of "A" in my post changing anything about who God is? I have no problem with the A at all,You're just attacking a straw man argument. the point is when the Bible said Spirit of God, it was referring to the spirit of the Father. Which we know as holy spirit.OK! Now you saying 2Cor 3:17 makes Holy spirit Jehovah means,Did the scripture say, and Jehovah is THAT SPIRIT? You can change your NWT but not the Holy scripture. holy spirit also have his own spiritThe same nonsensical when you realize that God who is a spirit also said to have its own spirit. cos it means Trinity is false.You have been saying that from ages but does that stop followers of Christ moving forward? |
Janosky:See the deluded lying liar JWs like your father the Devil. So it means there's no difference between JWs and those ones selling their properties. Good as you keep proving us right. |
Janosky:So it's false claim that your demonic organization once published a brochure title "Do you believe in Trinity"? I know the lies on that brochure that was later exposed by people which made your demonic organization to make it nonexistent, is too much for you followers of the lying 8 men. We understand fa... |
Barristter07:@color 1 Bible affirms that every believers are born of God and God is a Spirit. "But as MANY as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12-13 1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. kjv The two scriptures above affirm that ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF which is A NEW BIRTH. In fact, 1 Peter made it clear that WE ARE "...BORN AGAIN to a living hope through the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST from the DEAD" Unless you want to say resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is selective in nature and only apply to few people. @Highlight That's your wacked & self induced interpretation, no wonder you changed BORN to RESURRECT @color2 The one who will live forever on earth are they BORN OF GOD OR not? |
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