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HedwigesMaduro:You talk about lack of comprehension yet you're the very person displaying such here. Your point still remains that, you claimed Jesus isn't God because he SAID ONLY GOD IS GOOD. But when I pointed your lack of scriptural understanding out, you start to change tune. |
[quote author=Nezero post=1041 854246]Thank you for sharing such fantastic stuff from Jehovah's witnesses publications history.[/quote]You called a clear contradictions like this A FANTASTIC STUFF, how was it fantastic ![]() They do not claim to be inspired, they simply believe in the Bible and look for answers therein.Is it that you don't know much about your organization or you decided to be lying? Here are few claims of JWs for inspiration: “Under the guidance of his holy spirit and on the basis of his Word of truth, Jehovah provides what is needed so that all of God's people may be "fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought" and remain "stabilized in the faith." (1 Cor 1:10; Col. 2:6,7) Surely we are grateful for Jehovah's spiritual provisions in these last days. Kingdom Ministry Sep 2007 p.3 US Edition. "When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of the faithful and discreet slave at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood (Matt. 24:45; 1 Cor. 2:13) The Governing Body as a whole considers adjusted explanations. (Acts 15:6) What they learn, they publish for the benefit of all." Watchtower 2010 Jul 15 p.22-23 "Third, holy spirit is at work in bringing Bible truths to light." Watchtower 2010 Apr 15 p.10 "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327 So who should we believe, you or watchtower? By the way, generally Jehovah's witnesses do not rely on publications that are that old. Like 1920s, 1930s.But you can rely on Bible which is more older than that. Isn't watchtower claimed that the way the early Christians were inspired and directed is the same way the 8 slaves men in Brooklyn (sorry New York) are directed and inspired? So why won't you rely on the same publications that is the WORK OF HOLY SPIRIT, JEHOVAH AND INVISIBLE JESUS OR Should we then say those publications aren't the work of Jehovah, Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ? More available information must have helped them adjust their views.Why adjustments in the first place? Jesus disciples also had wrong understanding and expectations at times. God reveals things gradually.NOTICE: "THEY HAD WRONG UNDERSTANDING AND EXPECTATIONS" but do they TEACH AND PEN DOWN WRONG THINGS Proverbs 4:18 says: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established"Has it cross your mind that this scripture didn't say NEW LIGHT CONTRADICTED THE OLD LIGHT? in this case, your NEW LIGHT contradicted YOUR OLD LIGHT, Will you have trust Bible if what the Apostles pen down contradicted each other? I hope others enjoyed the article too.Enjoy contradictions ke, do you? |
maximunimpact:You truly got him at that @underlined He once created a thread on how the GB warned them to stay away from apostates but the same person spent ALL his day on Nairaland religion section with the same apostates. I use to wonder, if he has life outside Nairaland. The first account he created on Nairaland @Maxmus69 which is less than 3 years has made over 11,000 posts. This recent account which he registered less than a year now has reached over 7,000 posts. Guess what? All these post are 99.9% in religion section. |
MaxInDHouse:But not until then when you're spamming my mention to add my view in your topic. Like I said, I understand Mr Ponzi scheme promoter |
HedwigesMaduro:Says the person who started the Mumbo Jumbo You said Jesus was God, since He said only God was good, and He (Jesus) was called the Good Shepherd.Have you forgotten that you're the very person who first claimed that Jesus REJECTED being called GOOD because ONLY GOD is good ![]() I just redirected to use your "logic" that since there was someone called the Good Samaritan, he must be God too as only God is good. Is. It. Clear. Now?So you now understand that what Jesus is talking about didn't make Him not to be God nor does He reject being CALLED GOOD. |
MaxInDHouse:I understand, keep bringing that hypocrite! Your evidence is on the way Mr Ponzi Scheme promoter |
HedwigesMaduro:Can you see the reason why I asked that question now ![]() Your point was that since "Jesus DENIED BEING GOOD" then He isn't God. But when I shows you that Jesus is ACTUALLY GOOD, you begin to change tune. Which means you misunderstood what Jesus was discussing with that man. |
MaxInDHouse:Take a closer look at the @underlined & @color and see if it fits into the narration of your INVISIBLE PRESENCE of Jesus in 1914. Note that Apostle Paul said the dead in Christ shall rise first! indicating that there is going to be the second resurrection of the dead {Revelations 20:5-6} so there are billions still sleeping in death and since they're dead they remain unconscious until resurrection! Ecclesiastes 9:5-6Definitely, you never bother to read that place for yourself rather than what Watchtower and Awake infused in your dull brain. because had it been you read it yourself down to verse 17 you won't have spew that lies against the Holy scripture. Here it is "17 Then, together with them (THEM HERE ARE "the dead in Christ" , we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever." NLTThe text says "THOSE who are still ALIVE will meet TOGETHER WITH THE DEAD IN CHRIST in the cloud to be with the LORD FOREVER." So how many of JWs ALIVE in 1914 who meet with the LORD IN CLOUD? |
julisam:I wonder how you people pass your English in school. How can a reasonable person use the word EAT & TRANSFUSION in the same vein is still one of the wonders of JWs abracadabra. Eat...is to put (food) into the mouth and chew and swallow it. WHILE Transfusion....is an act of transferring donated blood, blood products, or other fluid into the circulatory system of a person or animal. So how does it sound when you made a statement like "Since you can eat food by transfusion and take medicine by transfusion you can also eat blood by transfusion." Educated illiterates are just so many in this part of the world. In any case, the position of God is that we should not eat blood through any means.This is your own interjection not that of God nor ever found in the scripture. What you people don't even know is that, when Apostle Paul talked about not EATING BLOOD or do with blood is about ANIMAL'S BLOOD. That position is sacrosanct and has not change and will not change with time. The Bible did not use the word 'blood transfusion' probably because the practice was not popular back then when that part of the Bible was written.There's no position of God condemning BLOOD TRANSFUSION rather what God is talking about is ANIMAL'S BLOOD especially the ones offered to idols and STRANGLED N9 one can do without EATING ANIMAL'S BLOOD unless the person eat dry meat or a vegetarian. Even your organization has gone as far as allowing FRACTION of blood to be taking. But the truth of the matter is that, lack of scriptural understanding leads your 8 men in now in NY to equate those verses to EATING BLOOD when those verses are just about animal's blood. In fact, if one check how Apostle Paul used that word in Acts it's evident that it's inline of not to do ANYTHING WITH BLOOD AS SACRIFICED since Christ's blood has been shied. |
HedwigesMaduro:I've clarified that in my previous post with your brother, try and check for it. |
HedwigesMaduro:Which means you don't understand what you're saying then that ONLY GOD IS GOOD. |
Trustedpronet:Not part of the world is what Apostle John shield more light on in 1 John 2:15 |
DappaD:On this thread created by @Rottennaija your two brothers including one who now has the hope of heavenly calling TATIME & Maximus69 (now MaxinDHouse) were both arguing that Jehovah witness is so loved by Russian Government even posting the picture of Putin given them award. to the extend of calling the OP @Rottennaija different names. So how come this thread is coming this time around. ![]() |
DappaD:Yeah! because I don't know why you bring up the issue of me ALWAYS LIKE ARGUING when in reality, it's you and your brothers who do that mostly. Philippians 2:6That verse was truly written because of people like you who always twist the Holy scripture. He EXISTED in FORM/NATURE of God and willingly put it down which is the reason why He can pray, called the Father His God e.t.c Emusan, that scripture completely harmonizes with Jesus’ statement at John 14:28. I don’t know how else you want to twist this. Please I’m not interested in further discussions with you. Thank you and good-bye.Very well because the Father is greater than Jesus but my point is that Jesus EXISTED in form of God before laid that privilege aside which is the reason why he can be GIVEN AUTHORITY. If you're not interested you won't have replied in the first place. |
DappaD:So you're only looking for the likes you can dish your organization lies to. I understand. In Emusan’s dictionary, “honor” means to worship? How else can you miscontrue that scripture LOL?I see, no wonder you couldn't answer my question! Here it is again, In what way do you honor JEHOVAH? Jesus said you should do THE SAME. So it's left for you to be truthful to yourself here. Your God has a God? How interesting!Yes when he became human Phil 2:6 Revelation 3:21And you will be claiming Bible student. O ma se oooo Mr Emusan, Jesus was granted authority by someone else(Matthew 28:18) and that puts him on the level where he will delegate responsibility to others(Revelation 2:26) but remember that he was given the authority to do that in the first place! So if he has to be given authority by someone greater than he is, it means he is not God. So to me Jesus is not God, but if he is to you, keep it to yourself and leave me out of it I beg you.Go and read Phil 2:6 then you'll know the reason why Jesus said ALL POWER which makes Him omnipotent was given to Him. Anyway, I use to say that when you Jws will be able to distinguish between when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He became part of Creation and when He entered part of Creation is the day your delusions will be cured. |
Barristter07:Again, that text didn't say Jesus HAD NOT ASCENDED to heaven but FINAL ASCENSION where He won't be seen again. I don't even need to bring the opinion of scholars here because I know you're too dull. The Bible said This are spirits in Prison who disobeyed in the days of Noah. . No man was promised Prison as a reward of their sin. It's more absurd when you realize this create unequal punishment for sinners , and make God partial. Prison is not for any human, it's for spirit angels chained in darkeness.Just see the way the lying liar keep dodging my questions For the last time, here are they The Bible says, Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS That's why I first asked you, what is the essence of Jesus preaching to ALREADY CONDEMNED ANGELS for everlasting destruction? Which you codedly ignored. I again asked, what is the impact of the message Jesus preached to this angels who are already CONDEMNED TO EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION? you pretended as you you didn't see that. Finally, I've been asking, what is the MESSAGE Jesus preached to THIS ANGELS? Which you turned a blind eyes, as if you didn't see the question just because you know your lies will be exposed once again. This means every body go to heaven , agree?Let me hit it on your dull skull once again because I've been doing that before. Everyone that died returns to God but their final abode is determined by God whether they are on God's side or not. And despite all this holy spirit cannot know what the Son doesn't know. Creating the question : Is holy spirit among the nobody knows at Matt 24:36 ? Or it was omitted as it's not a person ?The evidences are enough from the scripture that Holy spirit is a person and the scripture also says HOLY spirit knows the very MIIND of God. |
DappaD:Funny you, but what do you always look for on Nairaland? Emusan, please provide scriptural evidence based on the highlighted word alone, that Jesus DEMANDED people to worship him.NLT: so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him. John 5:23 You might want to claim that the word "HONOR" was used but I'll like to ask you: In what way do you honour the Father? Jesus says do the same for Him Okay. The ones who will also conquer to sit on thrones that God will give them, will also become God too? Revelation 3:21For you even to claim "to sit on thrones that God will give them" shows you know Jesus is God because It's Jesus' throne they will sit. And that verse made the difference clear. NLT: Those who are victorious will sit with ME ON MY THRONE, just as I was victorious and sat with MY FATHER ON HIS THRONE. |
DappaD:But Jesus demanded the same WORSHIP from everyone. But please change that thinking that bowing down always means worship. In times past, God himself foretold that people would bow down to his anointed priest as a show of obeisance to him, not that they worshiped him. 1Samuel 2:36Why can't you show the same verse where both the Father and the Lamb sit ON THE SAME THRONE? |
Jones4190:I don't need to address your other post since you so centered your point on this one. Now that you agreed that ONLY GOD is good. Then Jesus must be God since Jesus is the GOOD shepherd. Let's see the next twist you'll come with. |
Hi Precious! Notice that since i made that statement, he has been restless and looking for slight opportunity to get back to you. But the truth is, he knows he did it. Lemme give you a small clue. Here is a statement he made on one of his recent thread. But let's examine those statement together. Firstly, He said "But let me share my past experience ON THIS FORUM.Secondly, he said "ON THIS FORUM" which means Nairaland. Thirdly, he said "Some turned me into a philanthropist because i shared my number with them" We can then ask, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE he shared this CONTACT with? This is a person even with that his old moniker that 99% of his post on Nairaland is on RELIGION SECTION. Could it be he shared this contact with his the so called BROTHERS ONLY? Another thing we need to consider from that statement is that, he claimed "That's when i decided to close all contacts with anyone on faceless social media and changed my account on Nairaland from maximus69 to MaxInDHouse."Fourthly, the beginning of his statement seems it happened on Nairaland but at this point, it looks like it's not on Nairaland but another social media BUT THE RESULT of that leads to the deactivation of NAIRALAND account, which a reasonable MIND can ask, WHAT FOR Or Why would the action of another social media lead to Nairaland when no one can get your contact on Nairaland except both share their emails? You only need email to register with Nairaland and email isn't like phone number that you can claim people use to disturb you with. In the concluding part of that statement he said "So my friend i wish i could be of help but info on my my personal contact is a no go area. It's only selected JWs on this forum that can reach me! undecided"This is what I'm talking about, Nairalander can only reach themselves via EMAIL ONLY and as we all know we can tune our eyes away from EMAIL, that's why people don't usually consider it as disturbance. Lastly, if you want to hide your identity and keep people away from you, why must you change to a moniker that solely RESEMBLE the actual one the same people know you with? Does it mean the same people can't reach you on a post you make comments? And if he'll be honest with himself, let him tell us the TITLE of FIRST TWO threads he created on Nairaland with the moniker @Maximus69 MaxInDHouse: |
Barristter07:Stop exposing your ignorance up and down. Jesus' statement there didn't mean He HASN'T ASCENDED TO THE FATHER BEFORE that time but it's not YET the time to ASCEND FINALLY as He won't be SEEN again until the second coming. God don't keep any dead human In prison. The Fact that the passage even single out Noah's days proved the spirit there are those wicked angels. To claim it's human is to claim God is partial in judgement.The Bible says, Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS That's why I first asked you, what is the essence of Jesus preaching to ALREADY CONDEMNED ANGELS for everlasting destruction? Which you codedly ignored. I again asked, what is the impact of the message Jesus preached to this angels who are already CONDEMNED TO EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION? you pretended as you you didn't see that. Finally, I've been asking, what is the MESSAGE Jesus preached to THIS ANGELS? Which you turned a blind eyes, as if you didn't see the question just because you know your lies will be exposed once again. Evidences so far that human spirit is not a person.Evidence that Human spirit is a person is that The spirit KNOWS what is in the mind of Man. ONLY A CONSCIOUS BEING have that ability. Evidence that Holy Spirit is a person abound throughout the scripture. As: 1. The Holy Spirit was called "HE" 2. The Holy Spirit said to BE ANOTHER ADVOCATE, if Holy Spirit isn't a person, then Jesus can't TALK about ANOTHER advocate. 3. The Holy Spirit Has MIND 4. the Holy Spirit has WILL 5. The Holy Spirit can be GRIEVED 6. the Holy Spirit is grouped along The Father and the Son, in many places in the scripture i.e Matt 28:19 & 1 John 5:7. 7. The Holy Spirit can be talked to and speak. 8. The Holy Spirit can teach. |
Janosky:You're still unable to address my point. Anyways, I don't expect much from you. Here it is again. Paul claimed inspiration that is why you and your 8 men can agreed that Paul's writings are INSPIRED & infallible. Paul didn't acknowledge TO BE PERFECT But did Paul CLAIMED THAT HIS TEACHINGS AND WRITINGS not PERFECT after claimed to be INPSIRED? Capital NO! MY question: Did Paul later claim that His teachings and writings not perfect and fallible after claimed to be INSPIRED? Laughable Janosense! No wonder you're so restless and deluded like your 8 men in Brooklyn |
maximunimpact:See how perfect that article described their own organization. ![]() |
Janosky:Paul claimed inspiration that is why you and your 8 men can agreed that Paul's writings are INSPIRED & infallible. 1 Corinthians 13:9, was Paul's acknowledge perfect?Paul didn't acknowledge TO BE PERFECT But did Paul CLAIMED THAT HIS TEACHINGS AND WRITINGS not PERFECT after claimed to be INPSIRED? Was Paul himself perfect?Capital NO! MY question: Did Paul later claim that His teachings and writings not perfect and fallible after claimed to be INSPIRED? Deluded WAILERS everywhere.Laughable Janosense! No wonder you're so restless and deluded like your 8 men in Brooklyn ![]() |
Barristter07:Holy Spirit is a person and this was confirmed in my places in the scripture. But the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God. |
Barristter07:That Jesus statement is self explanatory unless to a toddler like you. Besides, I'm still waiting for the answer to WHICH MESSAGE DID JESUS PREACH TO THE ANGELS IN PRISON? The dead are not kept in prison. No scripture sanction that. 1Peter is not reffering to wicked humans. So God kept only the wicked people of Noah's day in prison, BUT NOT OTHERS ? You are even attacking God's impartiality just to maintain a false doctrine.Where are the dead kept? But the scripture says Jesus went and PREACHED TO TJE SPIRITS IN PRISON. who are these SPIRITS? |
Barristter07:That statement means "I'm not going to be with the Father forever NOW, I'm still here for sometimes, so go quickly and tell people of what you see instead of holding to me" So this isn't Jesus claiming his spirit didn't go anywhere. Kept where ? Prison ? Where is it written that the wicked are kept in prison ?In 1 Peter You haven't answered my question. Which message did Jesus preach to the dead in prison? |
Barristter07:But the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God. It's as real as Jesus breath that return to the Father the day he died.Na you sabi what is sure is that Holy Spirit is a person. |
Barristter07:You didn't answer my question idiot What message did Jesus preach to angels in prison. |
Barristter07:Only a conscious being has ability of KNOWING That makes the Holy Spirit to be a very real person. |
Barristter07:How do you know? Are the wicked not KEPT FOR DESTRUCTION? |
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, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever." NLT