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Christianity EtcRe: Jws False Doctrine Exposed Again by Emusan(m): 2:14am On Jun 27, 2021
Janosky:
Oga Bros, there are several "first borns" approved by God in your Bible- Israel, Reuben, David, Jesus, Isaac etc.
Each of them are members of God's family of believers, the People chosen to bear Jehovah's name, 2 Chro7:14 & Acts 15:7-14. Acts 3:13


You rightly pointed out that first borns were "with distinguished favor and honor."



Genesis 4:19 & Colossians 1:15, in the case of both Reuben and Jesus Christ, their claims to preeminence as first born was literal.
That is the true meaning of first born of "every Creature"/Son (in the case of Jesus/Reuben).
The 1599 Geneva Bible @ Colossians 1:15 puts it succinctly.
So you know there are several firstborn in the Bible which are used literally and Jesus Christ is one but you and your lying brothers have been interpreting "Firstborn of every Creature" to mean FIRSTCREATED BEING

You can even see how your darling Geneva Bible is exposing your lying mouth the mouth.

This post needs to be bookmarked!
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 2:00am On Jun 27, 2021
Barristter07:
I reference to you verse 11, If you had read that, you won't speak the ignorance filled statements above. Was the book John not written after Jesus had died and ressurected ? John was Making a summary in relation to Jesus ministry to the Jews before he died.

Verse 11 reads:

" He came to his own homeland, yet his own people did not receive him . "
CJB



The underlined became obvious after he was killed by the same people. So what John was describing were events that happened in the past in relation to Jesus ministry with the Jews. Not all believers ... grin grin
Oponu oniro radarada!

If John was describing were events that HAPPENED IN THE PAST in relation to Jesus ministry with the Jews then it also means The Jews were already RESURRECTED because it read " "And they WERE BORN" When your lying mouth was exposed you have to twist mouth again.

Besides, the basis of verse 12-13 is what you pointed out in that verse 11 "he came to own homeland and his OWN PEOPLE did not receive him" because of this is, verse 12 "But TO AS MANY as did receive him, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God, CJB

No how you twisted it or the version of the Bible you run to, your lying mouth will keep expose.

Not at all, read again.
It is! Mr lying liar like your father the devil.

Even the CJB you run to still expose your lying mouth.

Are you part of the MANY that did receive him and put your trust in his person and power?

Your last question doesn't show you understand how Christ Ressurection works. Many unrighteous persons would gain Ressurection too by virtue of this same Ressurection. So the Fact that someone benefit from Christ death and Ressurection doesn't make them born again. Change that silly idea. ANYONE can benefit from Christ Ressurection , born again or not.
This is the ignoramus we do talk about.

ONLY BELIEVERS benefit from Christ RESURRECTION which is what Peter addressed and that makes ALL BELIEVERS TO BE BORN AGAIN.

I see how you dubiously boycotted my point on 1 John. Ole...

Quote that Peter in Full please

1Peter 1:3,4
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, .

Describing that inheritance again in his second letter , he said.

" ... by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire. " 2Pet 1:4

Emphasis on " inheritance ... Kept in heaven for you " and " partakers of Divine nature "

It's obvious here that born again individuals won't be having an human nature. Rather God's own Divine nature which doesn't have flesh and blood. And they won't live forever on Earth.

This begs the question : Why are those mentioned as having everlasting life at Rev 21:3,4 not said to have Divine nature ? Why are they on planet Earth where flesh and blood lives? I thought the inheritance/living hope is kept in heaven for them .

Simple answer: Jesus Ransom sacrifice benefit many others to live forever on Earth.
Imagine, I should quote Peter in full, is that how you quote scripture in full?

1 Peter 1:3-4 again "...he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,"

It's evident from here that it is through the resurrection of Jesus Christ that BELIEVES ARE BORN AGAIN

About 2 Peter 1:4 this is the intro of it

"Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, TO THEM that have OBTAINED LIKE PRECIOUS FAITH WITH US through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ KJV

From here, we can see that Peter didn't direct his statement to selected group but INDIVIDUAL who has OBTAINED THE SAME PRECIOUS FAITH LIKE HIS.

The question is, do you obtain a precious faith like that of Peter?

keep lying for your 8 men and demonic organization.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 11:47pm On Jun 09, 2021
DappaD:
You’re not making any point.
Of course, I don't expect my post to make any sense to you.

I literally told you that Jehovah will have adopted spirit sons in heaven(Romans 8:16) provided they remain faithful to death(Hebrews 3:14)
I like the way you said, ***"You literally..."*** which means it's your personal view not that of the Holy Word of God.

and human sons and daughters on earth(Romans 8:21) provided they remain faithful after the millennial rule of Christ. Revelation 20:1-3
And the reason I quoted John 1:12-13 that scripture actually says ALL WHO BELIEVE AND RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST ARE BORN AGAIN

Which you haven't be able to prove false but just jumping up and down.

Emusan, you no get talk for mouth.
Dappad, you that has talk for mouth, why twisting the scripture?
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 11:38pm On Jun 09, 2021
Barristter07:
I really like the highlighted part . Here is the verse again.

However, TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they WERE exercising faith in his name....[/color]
Bible is very cleared here "TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM..."

If your comprehension skills is that top notch, you would have seen that the Tenses in the verse are in the past tense. The writer of John 1:12,13 is reffering to the first Jewish followers of Jesus who received him ( see verse 11) . Not all disciples. It says WERE, NOt WILL, the event were In the past . , Did is also past tense too.
I do say it, your dubious act is what keeps you under the bondage of your father the Devil for so long.

Now it's about using PAST TENSES.

See how this will put you in more trouble now.

Verse 13 "And they WERE BORN, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God."

So to you, these people are ALREADY REBIRTH even before Christ paid the ultimate sacrifice and not yet resurrected.

Everyone can see your dubious act and the reason why you're twisting that verse.

We are clear that John 1:12 is not reffering to every believer , So yes many believer's in Christ will live forever on Earth . Like John the Baptist, the repentant theif etc . This one's excercise Faith but are not born again.

Those born again are promised Divine nature not human nature. 1Peter 3.
We can see that John 1:12-13 is for everyone as you tried to twist.

All believers are BORN AGAIN even your lying organization said marginal reference to that john 1:13 is 1 John 3:9 which says "Everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin..."

What is the criteria John listed in his epistles as to be born from God?

Ans: EVERYONE who believes that Jesus is CHRIST is BORN OF GOD. 1 John 5:1

I can also see how you stylishly pushed aside that 1 Peter which says "...who according to His great mercy has caused us to be BORN AGAIN to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,"

Peter affirmed that THROUGH THE RESURRECTION of CHRIST we are BORN AGAIN.

Was resurrection of Christ only for selected people?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 10:40pm On Jun 09, 2021
DappaD:
Yes, after the millennial rule of Christ, all humans living on earth would be completely free from sin(Revelation 22:1,2) and hence be called Jehovah’s sons and daughters. Romans 8:21
What so amazing about this is how you just keep jumping my point

So you mean John 1:12-13 was about After millennial rule of Christ and not people who DID RECEIVE HIM as scripture says?

But for now, we’re still children of wrath(Romans 5:12) until we pass the final test. Revelation 20:1-3
Of course, I know all Jws are children of wrath because they belong to their father the Devil

And the born again also are still children of wrath for now

My question is still pending since two days now:
That was the reason I quoted that Matt 5 to show you that the criteria of inherit earth was to be MEEK. Do you say those who will rule with Jesus aren't MEEK?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 9:42pm On Jun 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Thank you! smiley
You're welcome!
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 9:40pm On Jun 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
One day you will end up behind bars accusing people without having proof! grin
If it got to that, people like Seun and mods will be summoned to court and your posts on your deleted moniker will be made available.

Just like I said, you feel there's no evidence because you took down that moniker but I promise you, I'll get to root of this just wait and see. I understand your fear, you thought nobody was aware of those threads then but since I brought it up, your blood has been boiling.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 9:34pm On Jun 07, 2021
DappaD:
Those who receive the “new birth” from God have their inheritance in the spiritual heavens(1Peter 1:3,4)
Yes and the scripture confirmed that ALL BELIEVERS receive the new birth.

John 1:12-13 says "However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name." NWT

since they cannot take their fleshly bodies to heaven(1Corinthians 15:50), they will need to be transformed to become spirit beings(John 3:6)
How will they be TRANSFORMED? Are they not BORN AGAIN OR REBIRTH anymore?

Funny you, or you forgot EVERYONE will be RESURRECTED.

I strongly believe that those who have this inheritance will number a total of 144,000. Revelation 7:1-3, 14:1-5
Well, you have right to believe what you want but not what the scripture says because the window is opened to "To ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM"

So, it can't be limited to 144,000 because millions did receive him.

The question is, will those whom Jesus said would have their inheritance on earth, need to be born again? Matthew 5:5
Matt 5:5 says "Blessed are the meek and gentle—they will inherit the earth."

The people Jesus said will INHERIT the earth are THE MEEK, are you saying those who'll have heavenly inheritance are not MEEK & GENTLE?

If yes, of what use will it be since Revelation 21:3 says that it is mankind(flesh and blood) that will inherit the blessings listed in Revelation 21:4?
But the fact still remains that, "TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM" they are BORN AGAIN.

Question!
Who will born those who have their inheritance on earth?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 9:09pm On Jun 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Then if this is your understanding of being born again then i'm outstandingly born again because i am a beleiver! smiley
That's what the scripture says not me, so if you think you're up to that criteria then you're a born again.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 9:06pm On Jun 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
No problem you've behaved so foolishly this time but next time before you lay false and stupid accusation against anyone try to gather evidence so that you won't look stupid. Period! smiley
You created two threads with your deleted moniker @Maximus69 promoting Ponzi Scheme....I said it before and I'll say it again. You can hit your dull skull on the wall.

Scammer JWs! I know it pains you whenever your evil deeds are brought open because as a hypocrite, you're always pretending to be an Angel of Light just like your father the Devil.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 9:01pm On Jun 07, 2021
Barristter07:
It's not for a man to decide he is born again or Rebirth. John 1:12,13 at highlighted corroborate what is written at John 3:8.
I understand because you have comprehension issue I don't expect you to grab the point, which is the reason you keep perambulating.

Here is the main point from John 1:12-13

12 However, TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they were exercising faith in his name....

Bible is very cleared here "TO ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM..."

Not from man's will but God.
Yes! The rebirth isn't from man's will but God but the promise is "To ALL WHO DID RECEIVE HIM"

Unless you're claiming God is lying here!

[s]just as you can feel the wind but cant tell or dictate it's movement. It's not for a man to decide to be born again.[/s]
Who claimed that it's man who decided to be born again or not?

The point is WHO EVER BELIEVES IN CHRIST IS BORN AGAIN or REBIRTH

1Peter 3 highlighted the point that those rebirth will be spirit persons , sharers of the Divine nature., God own nature , Spirit. It called it a " PROMISE "
Liar! That's not 1 Peter 3 point.

The point is, ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN AGAIN as a result of Christ Dead. That is the DEATH OF CHRIST makes ALL BELIEVERS to be BORN AGAIN not selected people.

[s]This is different from the Human nature given those who will live forever on Earth . Revelation 21:3,4 . Gods spirit nature doesn't have flesh and blood. God created them , birth them from Adam. But didn't rebirth them as Spirit sons.
The question you're still dodging is, those who will live forever on Earth DO THEY BELIEVE/RECEIVE CHRIST?

John 1:12 says "However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 8:48pm On Jun 06, 2021
Barristter07:
One Fact has been established, humans who are believers will live forever on Earth.
Only in your head not from the Holy word of God.

And see the way the deluded shameless boycotted John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 3

The gift of everlasting life is for those who show Faith in Christ.
We're talking about REBIRTH, ode!

The rebirth is what lead to everlasting life.

Rev 21:4, john 3:8 even proved that God choose who undergo this rebirth, not a matter of being a believer, !
See the way the shameless lying liar keep boycotting that John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 3

Does John 1:12-13 look like GOD CHOOSES WHO UNDERGO this rebirth?

Lying liar JWs like your father the devil.

This got Interesting: What is born of spirit "IS SPIRIT " means?
And what is born of flesh is flesh?

Who give birth to those who will live forever on earth?

Emphasis on the phrase " Is spirit " . Tell us what you know.
Emphasis on the "BORN OF flesh is flesh"




In addition:
12 However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they were exercising faith in his name.+ 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God. NWT

Who are these verses talking about?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Emusan(m): 8:38pm On Jun 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The term "BORN AGAIN" has different meanings to so many people.
The point is, does the TERM Born Again has different meanings?

But according to Jesus being BORN AGAIN means being born of water and spirit! John 3:5
This is so sweet, are ALL believers not BORN OF WATER and Spirit?

Please can you tell me what you mean by born again?
Born again is the regenerated or rebirth that ANYONE who accepts Christ will experience as John 1:12-13 put it .

12 But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. 13 They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God. NLT

12 However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children,+ because they were exercising faith in his name.+ 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God. NWT

Now, the question is, do you exercise faith in him?
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 8:25pm On Jun 06, 2021
Barristter07:
Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having RECEIVED FROM THE FATHER the promise of the Holy Spirit , He poured out this which you now see and hear Acts 2:33 NKJV
What is this onehuh

I don't really know what your problem is here. Are you now shifting goal post to mean the Lord here is Jesus Christ. That would be hilarious. Your attempt to pin the Spirit at 2Cor 3:17 to holy Spirit has failed , because holy spirit does not have a spirit of its own. Once again, shifting it to Jesus Christ would be hilarious...
If not because you're so dull, what does Trinity entails?

2 Corinthians 3:17 "Lord is the Spirit" the Spirit here is the one in Vs 8

You can hit your dull skull on the wall!
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 8:20pm On Jun 06, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
How on earth can a human being be so useless and hopeless like you Emusan? cheesy
Thanks for the compliment but know that this is bookmarked!

I was chatting with a young lady who has been misinformed about God's people and you ran into the discussion only to lay false accusations,
The young lady was giving you severe painment and frustration, you have to dig deep into her previous post to present something different entirely to the subject matter in other to derail her thread. Which is what I addressed by saying, you hypocrite was once promoting a Ponzi scheme on this forum with your DEACTIVATED ACCOUNT @Maximus69

OK provide evidence of your false accusations and you came up with the most stupid comment ever on Nairaland:
You asked the person you're accusing to help you gather evidence against himself! huh
Walahi Talahi your madness done get grade, you better desist from harbouring hatred for God's people before your condition worsen than this! cheesy
Your blood is hot because you know you're a liar and hypocrite.

That's why you are so pained since I exposed your hypocrite.

If you're so sure I'm lying, tell this forum the title of your first-two post with the account name @Maximus69.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 8:11pm On Jun 06, 2021
Janosky:
1 Corinthians 1:24 & Proverbs 8:22, Geneva Bible © 1599.
Mr LIENUS stop DECEIVING yourself.
Roger that.
grin grin



LUKE 24:49
I am going to send you what my Father has promised;
but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.
@ Luke 24:49, Is Jesus Christ "the power from on high" ?
Is Jesus Christ the promised holy spirit?

Luke 24:49 ,2 Timothy 1:7, holy spirit is the power of God.
Luke 11:20 holy spirit is the finger of God.

Mumu LIENUS, is the finger of God a living entity?
Psalms 11:4, Is the eyes of God a living entity?
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The lying liar JWs like his father the Devil still leaving in self denial and severe painment.

Is Jesus Christ not THE POWER AND WISDOM OF GOD?

You haven't answered this but keep perambulating like a lost soul.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 5:01pm On May 30, 2021
Janosky:
Emusan have forgotten your numerous LIES & denial of Jesus the wisdom created before the works of old @ Proverbs 8:22 ?

DUBIOUS man , LIENUS you will disgrace yourself on this thread, no worry.
grin grin grin grin
See painment from the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil.

This is my post again:
Christ said to be THE POWER and THE WISDOM of God!

Now, the lying liar JWs like his father the devil with faulty understanding of:

The Power of God not a person
The Wisdom of God not a person

Agreed that the Son is a person!
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:59pm On May 30, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
ÒDÈ
You lied and instead of covering your face in shame you're still spewing gibberish.
So this is how hopeless you can be, shey?
You're a disgrace to yourself, your family, your church and your worthless god! cheesy
I lied yet you can't counter my claim by providing the screenshot of your profile for the account @Maximus69 so that people can see my lies.

See painment, your useless frustration life just started. As your mumu god keep inspires you to defraud people.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:47pm On May 30, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi oòlójútì! cheesy
Why? because I'm exposing your fraudulent acts here!

I know it pains you since I brought that issue up because the shame is too much for you to bear.

But just like I said, I'm still trying everything possible to make sure I find those threads and I'm sure you'll be put to shame once again.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:42pm On May 30, 2021
Janosky:
Start to quote from verses 1 to 17 of chapter 3, DUBIOUS LIENUS
grin grin
Kindly do that for us!

And besides, as usual you can bring in your darling Geneva Bible opinion here let's see what it says concerning those verses cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:22pm On May 30, 2021
Janosky:
Artful dodger, answer the question from that post :
2 Corinthian 6:6-7 & Luke 24:49,Is the power of God a person ?

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Christ said to be THE POWER and THE WISDOM of God!

Now, the lying liar JWs like his father the devil with faulty understanding of:

The Power of God not a person
The Wisdom of God not a person

Agreed that the Son is a person!
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:17pm On May 30, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So after lying and unable to cover your lies you disappeared from the other thread and came here, shey? cheesy
Well the lady Preciousgirl is still waiting for your proof after all the lies you told her Sir! cheesy
Where is the lies?

I said you once created two threads on this forum promoting Ponzi scheme. I saw them before you deleted your previous moniker @Maximus69

You can keep deny it because that account was deleted but anyone who has ever viewed your profile then will see those threads.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:12pm On May 30, 2021
CAPTIVATOR:
Here is him trying to interpret the spirit at 2corintihians 3:17 as holy spirit. He should tell us if holy Spirit has his own spirit.
At least first admit that spirit can have spirit!

Then we'll enter the next face
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 4:09pm On May 30, 2021
Barristter07:
That is a mockery of some trinitarian who try to use that verse to say holy spirit is named Jehovah

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This clearly means holy spirit is not Jehovah. The Spirit at 2Cor 3:17 is the Father who have his own spirit.

Thank you.
When the lying liar mouth is exposed, the next thing is to be grasping for air.

Now that you boldly say THE SPIRIT at 2 Corinthians 3:17 is the FATHER

This is what that verse says "Now the Lord is the Spirit..."

Which means the SPIRIT here was once mentioned somewhere which we can trace back to verse 8 "will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?"

Where was the Father ever associated with the MINISTRY OF THE SPIRIT in the scripture?
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 3:55pm On May 30, 2021
Barristter07:
You are now grabbing straws, Every human is born by God through human Father's.
So which means every human will live forever on EARTH....

It's very obvious how you're trying to twist the scripture because every honest Bible believing students know that John 1:12-13 and 1 Peter I quoted earlier were strictly for BELIEVERS not EVERY HUMAN.

Rebirth is another kind of birth. And not all believers share in it.
Liar....

Just say John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter aren't for ALL BELIEVERS...opuro oshi

Here it is again:
"But as MANY as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12-13

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused US to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. kjv


@highlighted
No. They are not REBIRTH... If they are , they would have been Spirits not humans. the fact that they are living forever as humans showed they are believers in Christ .
To you they are not but scripture makes it cleared that THEY ARE REBIRTH because to be REBIRTH is to BORN AGAIN which both John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 1:3 are all about.

What the spirit born is Spirit. They still maintain their Human birth. Take a clue from Jesus Ressurection of people, after their Ressurection as human , the people still retain their parent , brothers and sisters nature. Their Human father's are still their Father. Still that same birth. Not a Rebirth , those experiencing rebirth took God's Divine nature.
And scripture proves that ALL BELIEVERS are BORN AGAIN which is through SPIRIT.

The lying liar mouth now change from BORN AGAIN to Rebirth and the deluded forgot that both still mean the same thing.

When John 1:12-13 & 1 Peter 1:3 boldly talking about BORN AGAIN/REBIRTH of ALL BELIEVERS.

Is born again different from REBIRTH?
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 11:59am On May 28, 2021
Barristter07:
Yes God the Father, Jehovah have his own spirit. Does Holy spirit have his own spirit too ?

I put that to you !

And we would see the truth about who is called Jehovah in 2Cor 3:17
@color so you know that Jehovah (spirit) have his own spirit which we can then say "Spirit of the Spirit(jehovah) and you first make a mockery of yourself by saying "spirit of the Holy Spirit" which means to you spirit can't said to have SPIRIT.

Just keep exposing your ignorance and lying mouth!
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 11:52am On May 28, 2021
Barristter07:
My last post did more justice to your point.
Lying liar JWs like your father the devil.

Your last post was just boycotted my point not was addressed.

If Every believer is born again, All of them would have had the hope of becoming Spirit persons like God. But is that the case? Revelation 21:4 is there for you, are those sinners ?
You first came with "What is BORN of spirit is spirit" to explain that why SOME PEOPLE are Born again and other aren't.

But I countered that by providing various verses that say "ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF GOD, who is a Spirit"

But the same deluded you, start to change the meaning of BORN AGAIN to mean BECOMING SPIRIT PERSON, RESURRECTION AS A SPIRIT PERSON

...It's high time you check your understanding of those verses. God created everyone , believer and unbeliever. We can as well say [b]God born everyone through human father's,
You see what I usually say, your lying mouth is easily to get exposed.

God BORN EVERYONE through human Father's....lying liar JWs!

John 1:12-13 wasn't about EVERYONE, likewise 1 Peter I quoted earlier.

But it's very clear that born in this context is different, not just a matter of God creating a person through human Father's, but he himself adopted, rebirth those having part in first Ressurection . This make them future Spirits sons.
The @color says it all I don't need to add anything else.

Or care to explain What does the expression what is born of spirit " is spirit " means ?
My question is, ARE NOT ALL BELIEVERS BORN OF GOD WHO IS A SPIRIT?

No wonder you changed BORN TO RESURRECTION and still foolishly say "himself adopted, rebirth those having part in first Ressurection"

Are the people who will live forever on earth not ADOPTED, REBIRTH AND RESURRECTED?

Ole oshi
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 5:50pm On May 23, 2021
Barristter07:
@highlight, There are two ressurection . Only the First Ressurection is for those who will rule with Jesus Christ. They are Spirit persons , What is born of spirit is Spirit. You would have done well to read that scripture I posted earlier.

Those who will live forever on Earth are not born of spirit. They would live forever as " Humans " Revelation 21:4. I repeat, what the spirit born is spirit. Not human.
You see what I do use to say!

Now, you just in one dubious way, swiped aside my point but cling to your delusion.

Here is my post again and questions I asked.


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Bible affirms that every believers are born of God and God is a Spirit.

"But as MANY as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12-13

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. kjv

The two scriptures above affirm that ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF God which is A NEW BIRTH.

In fact, 1 Peter made it clear that WE ARE "...BORN AGAIN to a living hope through the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST from the DEAD"


Unless you want to say resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is selective in nature and only apply to few people.

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That's your wacked & self induced interpretation, no wonder you changed BORN to RESURRECT

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The one who will live forever on earth are they BORN OF GOD OR not?
Provide answers to my questions above!
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Mistakes People Make With The Holy Spirit by Emusan(m): 5:44pm On May 23, 2021
Barristter07:
It's funny that the same person who would argue against the inclusion of " a" at John 1:1 is here trying to insert the same " A" grin
When you don't have meaningful to say!

Does insertion of "A" in my post changing anything about who God is?

I have no problem with the A at all,
You're just attacking a straw man argument.

the point is when the Bible said Spirit of God, it was referring to the spirit of the Father. Which we know as holy spirit.
OK!

Now you saying 2Cor 3:17 makes Holy spirit Jehovah means,
Did the scripture say, and Jehovah is THAT SPIRIT?

You can change your NWT but not the Holy scripture.

holy spirit also have his own spirit grin grin highly nonsensical if you ask me,
The same nonsensical when you realize that God who is a spirit also said to have its own spirit.

cos it means Trinity is false.
You have been saying that from ages but does that stop followers of Christ moving forward?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's House For Sale by Emusan(m): 12:38pm On May 23, 2021
Janosky:
Please exercise your fundamental right to WAIL.
Your so called body of Christ have been selling properties since 19gbidigbidi (Screenshot attached).
Deluded LIENUS and hypocrite DECEIVING himself.
See the deluded lying liar JWs like your father the Devil.

So it means there's no difference between JWs and those ones selling their properties.

Good as you keep proving us right.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses' Year Without Knocking On Doors by Emusan(m): 12:34pm On May 23, 2021
Janosky:
FALSE claim.
Mr LIENUS.
Please console yourself.
grin grin grin
So it's false claim that your demonic organization once published a brochure title "Do you believe in Trinity"?

I know the lies on that brochure that was later exposed by people which made your demonic organization to make it nonexistent, is too much for you followers of the lying 8 men.

We understand fa...
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean To Be Born Again? by Emusan(m): 12:25pm On May 23, 2021
Barristter07:
What is born of spirit is spirit means They are Ressurected as a Spirit person, just as God is spirit.

[s] " Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. " Revelation 20:6 NIV

" They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. " Revelation 22:4,5 NIV.[/s]

Clearly, this one's are different from those who will live forever as humans in the New Earth. ( Rev 21:4)
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Bible affirms that every believers are born of God and God is a Spirit.

"But as MANY as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12-13

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. kjv

The two scriptures above affirm that ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF which is A NEW BIRTH.

In fact, 1 Peter made it clear that WE ARE "...BORN AGAIN to a living hope through the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST from the DEAD"

Unless you want to say resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is selective in nature and only apply to few people.

@Highlight
That's your wacked & self induced interpretation, no wonder you changed BORN to RESURRECT

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The one who will live forever on earth are they BORN OF GOD OR not?

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