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Janosky:
Jesus passed through the human process of gestation prior to his birth. He was born of a woman, he calls himself. "son of man".
That speaks volumes.

Then he stop being a spirit at some point, how come?

To go with your logic simply means God didn't send anything...because something from what God sent must remain in the human nature.

Now you agree that Jesus called Himself Son of man speaks volume but go through the story of Stephen while being stoned to death, what did he see?

The scripture says "and he said: “Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.” NWT

So for Stephen to call the resurrected Christ Son of man when he saw him in heaven should tell you that Jesus was still with His flesh not spirit.

Even John in revelation saw Jesus as Son of man.

Most astonished among them is Apostle Paul calling Jesus Christ "MAN" when he said "there is only one mediator between God and man, the MAN Jesus"

Only a brainwashed person like you will agree that Paul is calling a spirit man

I know your narration will change again....

** Angels simply used their God given supernatural powers to appear to men with a human body temporarily for the mission they were sent to do.

But the case of Christ must be different since he doesn't have such supernatural power. Meanwhile, He is the one who created everything and still sustain the UNIVERSE by His power.

See this article about Jesus from your publication:

"4 So before being born on earth as a man Jesus had been in heaven as a mighty spirit person. He had a spirit body invisible to man, just as God has."

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989096

"3 Jehovah transferred the life of Jesus from heaven to the womb of Mary by means of holy spirit."

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20121201/why-did-god-send-jesus

This first says Jesus had a "SPIRITUAL BODY" and the second says "Jehovah TRANSFERRED the LIFE of Jesus"

1. Where was Jesus spiritual body?
2. You mean Jehovah killed the person of Micheal by only TRANSFERRING His Life (let me watch something here, you may shot yourself in the legs)
3. From these two statements, must there not be something left from what God sent?

Janosky:
"The sacrifice /offering of the body of Jesus Christ" Hebrew 10:10, Ephesians 5:2.
It's a gift to mankind. John 6:51.

When you give offering or sow a seed (it's a sacrifice too)in your church , does your church refund your sacrifice/offering back to you?
I don't need to remind you about it's ramifications.

So what happened to other HUMAN BODIES your Jesus used to deceive his disciples?

Are they for sacrifice too

Janosky:
When angels visited Abraham, Lot and Gideon, did they stop being spirits?
if an angel of God visits you today, is that angel still a spirit?
Thats your JAMB question.
Answer am

This is where we are going...

Why did you people then conclude that the once angel Michael a spirit being after came to earth (as Jesus) became FULLY HUMAN and stop being a SPIRIT being?

I know your tune will change now....

To your question:
The angel is still a spirit

** In the past, angels use human bodies on earth to visit men of God is not to deceive, but when the resurrected life giving spirit Jesus Christ used different human bodies at different times which the scriptures confirm, his disciples couldn't recognize him, to Emusan Pharisee, that's "to deceive"...
You no like the truth, it's in your nature.

The question is, do they become FULLY HUMAN BEING at the time of using HUMAN BODIES or their Spirit being was covered with human nature?

***Emphasis on the Human BODIES

You've already confirmed it above that they didn't stop being a spirit while taking up human nature.

lemme see how you'll solve these two contradictory statements.

Janosky:
Very idiotic post.
Greek is the original source for new testament (NT), the true meaning of any word in NT is in Greek meaning, not the fake stuff in English KJV. For instance, Luke12:5 &"Matt10:28, Greek Gehenna (refuse dump site in Jerusalem), KJV change it to "hell/hellfire". That's wrong and misleading.

You have some things to hide, that is why you dey fear Greek language like pikin wey him Mama catch am dey thief meat inside soup pot.

*** Why are you so daft?
Spirits such as angels and even demons possess supernatural powers to materialise (they change and appear to man in human bodies) in any form or shape they want.
For instance, Lot hosted two angels who appeared in human bodies (Gen19:1,2).
Gideon had an angelic visitation (Judges 6:11,12). How come?
All these angels simply materialised (appeared ) in human body!
Does that mean these angels were not spirits? alBAGDADI et al answer that question!

** John20:14,why did Mary Magdalene not recognize Jesus after his resurrection?
**%% Luke24:13-16 why did his disciples not recognize Jesus on their trip to Emmaus?
And again, Luke24:36,37 why no recognition of Jesus when he appeared to them in the house ?
No wounds, no nail marks on Jesus at all!

** Thomas had doubts(John20:25), and to erase his doubts, Jesus obliged him "put your finger here" ,he appears in a body with wounds and nail marks.(vs26,27).

** Uncomfortable truth to alBAGDADI, jnr Pharisee, emusan ,shadeyinka et al:
On these separate occasions, Jesus Christ NEVER appeared to his disciples in the body with which he died and was buried.
Shikena !!!!

You can even mention me in this nonsensical post!

Imagine, Jesus is borrowing different bodies to deceive His disciples and this sounds rational to your fable mind.

You people will claim Angels materialised but the simple question you can't answer anytime such is being discussed is:

Were they fully human when materialised or the human nature covered their spirit nature?

shadeyinka:
I wonder what would happen at death when they see that even though they are dead, yet they can still feel, reason and have emotions.

They feel humans are so valuable that God cannot forget some of them in his prison. Why should anyone fear God if the worst man can do is also the worst God can do to man

The @bolden part is what their shallow mind can never comprehend....which is the fact Christ emphasized in His statement.

shadeyinka:
No one ever disputed that.
In the old testament, almost every reference to hell means the grave or the place where the dead goes(sheol) or a place of sorrow depending on the context.

In the new testament none of the reference to hell refer to the grave but a place of torment and punishment.


The problem is that JW wish to hide the fact that hell exists so they put all reference to hell to mean grave. That is very wrong.

Can you find a single new testament verse that calls or describes hell as the grave?

Mar 9:43:
"And if your hand offend you, cut it off: it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:"

In JW dictionary, does fire burn in the grave!?

The @color part is their main problem.

You can see immediate I said hell also means grave he opened his birth teeth...

Barristter07:
It says Spirit " IT self " an " IT "

Seems something is wrong with you, is that a person?

Another useless excuse...

Don't even come with this because it will expose your ignorance the more.

And your conscience didn't pick you ? to cover a lie, you need more lies

Matthew 10:28

' BOTH body and Soul in hell'

Emphasis on " Both "

Can you see you are a liar ?

You now hold on to Matthew alone when both Matthew and Luke are saying the same thing and your question was from Luke.

That's delusional.

The question you asked was centered on the highlight you made to my post which is "AFTER HE HATH KILLED, he hath power to CAST INTO THE HELL"

It means the killing will happen first before CAST INTO THE Hell...

And from the scripture, it's evident that both God and man have POWER TO KILL the BODY but while God supersedes man is "CASTING into the Hell" and this can only be done to what man has no power on "The SOUL"

hope you get it this time....shallow brain man?

Barristter07:
Who ask you all this rant

Your deluded mind does

because you can't claim nothing exists after death and went further to claim "SOMETHING RETURNS to God"

I quoted a scripture for you, does it answer your question ?

I was expecting you to counter that scripture, and maybe then what you don't understand will be made clear

The scripture is fully against you and your dubious claim...

because the scripture is an evident that something exists after death and not NOTHING EXISTS

Question: What does God cast into hell ?

1. Body

2. Soul

3. Both Body and soul.

Soul.....

because it's already established that both God and man can kill the BODY

Barristter07:
You confirm translation error !

Jozzy4 , this thread will do some factory settings , Shadeyinka and albhagdadi see your partner admiting Hell is use for Grave , something you both vehemently denied . its all right . wahala dey the enemy camp like one friend of mine do say

Which one does hell means here, Grave or place of torment ? One thing is certain the body is present in this hell.

See my reply above!

Barristter07:
Ecclesiastes 12:9

" Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the spirit itself returns to the true God who gave it "

Something returns to the maker which is restored to make the person whole again, spirit/breath of LIFE.

Firstly, it's verse 7 not 9

Secondly, look @underlined, I said it, you people are so confused and dubious in action.

Your organization claimed was "when we die, we cease to exist"

I could also remember a claim by your organization that "people who died only EXIST in Jehovah's mind

Now going by your claim there's actually something LEFT in man after death.

Let me stop here and watch u play chess again, then you just might be caught in your own game

Or you playing dubious game.

Stop telling lies, Hahahaha
Jesus said God will destroy ~~~Both ~~~ Body and Soul In that same Hell ( KJB ) ? ? ? Which one is after body is gone again , is the body not present in hell anymore ? Wahala wa o

You're wrong!

Luke shield more light on this by saying

"And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them THAT KILL THE BODY, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which AFTER HE HATH KILLED hath power to CAST into hell; yea, I say unto you, fear him" Luke 12:4-5 KJV

God will first KILL the body just as man will kill the body but God will later CAST INTO HELL what man can't touch which is The Soul.

Barristter07:
Na wah! Are there different hellfires or you mean the translation is wrong ?

Getting more interesting

It means your reasoning is wrong

And your dull brain has forgotten that hell is used for both grave and a place of torment for the wicked.

Jozzy4:
It simply means Only God can decide to either Ressurect a soul or destroy it completely.

What will God destroy when nothing exists again?

You people know there must be something left in man that God will use to restore man back to life but always adamant to say it.

But man can only kill the body , but not the Life ( or existence)

Isn't the body that is in existence

What is inside the body that remains

You're just contradicting yourself....

God gives a resurected person a new body, since the former was killed , But the exact same person returns to Live

Just look at the @underlined statements and see how dubious you are...

"Resurrected PERSON is given a new BODY"
Where was that PERSON before resurrection

For EXACT same PERSON to return to life, it means something is left in the person, if not what you're describing here is RECREATION and not resurrection.

Hahaha, So what does hell means here ?
Again: Body and soul in hell

Jesus already established that man can kill the BODY, if man can kill the BODY, where is the body going?

The second statement of Christ is centered on where man's ability is limited which is "SOUL" and it's only God who has the power to destroy it but this will happen after the BODY is gone.

Who judges him as Wicked so as not to deserve Ressurection ?

And in your English class you were not taught on something called illustration.

Jozzy4:
I won't want to drag this with u again, Or else you make a scene of yourself . keep in mind it says Body and soul in Hell


So this soul we are talking about is not an immaterial entity, its together with the Body in that same Hell of your translation.

are people u believe are in hell presently with their BODIES ?

The problem you're having isn't lack of comprehension only but couple with literature review.

Jesus first statement was "who can kill the body but not able to kill the soul"

This is in reference to man

This simply means two different things are involved here "BODY" and "SOUL"

MAN can kill the BODY but can't Kill the SOUL

This is a plain proof that BODY is different from SOUL

True or false?

This destroyed your claim that SOUL and person are the same.

The second part read "fear him who can destroy both body and soul in hell"

Looking at this statement without academic bias one can see that this overhauled what MAN can't do against THE SOUL in the first statement.

Is this true or not?

Lastly, your reference to "BODY and SOUL in hell" means you didn't understand the scripture because hell has different meanings...

Now, let me turn this to you, if someone killed a wicked man it means the wicked will not resurrect according to your theology. Now compare this with the statement of Jesus isn't that means the person who killed the wicked man KILLED HIS BODY AND SOUL? which is what Jesus said no man can do.

Janosky:
what did Jehovah say would exist in Adam after he died?

And where did Jehovah say nothing exists after Adam will die?

** ** Present the proof here to back your false claim JWs said "the person sent doesn't have anything divine in him"

So do you believe the person sent from heaven lives in the body of human Jesus or somehow just lost everything and became FULLY HUMAN?

Hypocrite!

You LIED as usual, where is your proof that JWs told you so...?

When they say Jesus is just pure human....

Imagine "I lied as usual" yet you never point out any of my lies before....provide the place where I've lied here on this forum.

sagenaija:
Amazing!

So, when there is no proof that what they want to prove is correct that still makes it a fact.

How did these "scientists" determine that there was "no change in the physical-biological environment" for billions of years?

And these same ones will also claim that environmental changes led to the extinction of some species.

How even men with intelligence can dump rational thinking to support their point of view is truly amazing.

The most confuse set of people on earth are those supporting abiogenesis...

The next to them are those supporting evolution...

The least among them are those supporting Big Bang...

Lastly, the greatest among them are those who combined the three above...

Jozzy4:
Are you saying Human soul can die ? Doesn't continue to exist after death ?

Where did you read that?

The verse pointed out that only God has power to destroy human soul...why is simple English so difficult for you people to understand?

Jozzy4:
Why change his words ?
Jesus said he came to give mankind LIFE .not just physical body Mr .

Life definition:

the existence of an individual human being or animal.

So in short he came to give mankind continued existence.

So how could this be if man himself is by default immortal as a Soul ?

And the body won't have life bah...

dondavinchi:
yes up till date it's a norm in calabar ,they derive pleasure eating human flesh

It's a lie, calabar don't eat human flesh only one local government area practicing that barbaric habit.

Yakkurr LGA

Even calabar and other place fear them

greymiles:
I thought they eat human flesh in calabar and surrounding towns before

No! it was just one local government area "Yakkurr" UGEP is their headquarter...if you go there and come back alive, give God the glory!

alBHAGDADI:
Cc

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Before we even talk about Jesus resurrected bodily or not, we must first address the illogical reasoning of JWs about the person sent by God.

This is what I'm still trying to get from them since.

They claim, the person sent doesn't have anything divine in him just pure human like you and I.

Then, isn't something must retain from his divine nature why he became human

Also, since Jesus is pure human like everyone else in the world, and NOTHING exists in human after death according to them.

What then from Jesus, God resurrected when the body wasn't taking back?

So, looking at it from this angle, you can see that according to their logic, God didn't send anybody no God resurrected anybody.

Jozzy4:
Can someone tell me how what Jesus did is significant if we humans are immortal Souls. An immortal being cannot die, so it's useless saying some one came and gave it everlasting life.

@bold your premises is wrong humans AREN'T immortal souls but HAVE immortal souls

We were created to live on earth with our physical body where we relate with God through our spirits.

The day Adam sinned against God the physical body was subjected to destruction, so Jesus came to give us back the first physical body to live forever.

Maximus69:
Hmmm, sorry o!
All these headache simply because we say our God differ from yours?
Abeg talk your own nah?
Or are you this empty that you have NOTHING to say about your own religious GROUP other than picking trouble with those claiming to be worshipers of their own God? John 8:12-20, Act 5:28
Must we worship your God who can't organise his scattered worshipers in an orderly manner? 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:5

I'm pointing out your lies which is very glaring on this thread but see where your deluded mind is going...

Of course I'm not here to argue with whether your God is differ from mine or not but if admitting that you're serving a living God whose eyes can't behold iniquity, who hates lies and says all liars belong to the lake of fire.

And your posts have been found out propagating lies and false accusations, then you need to reexamine which God you're truly serving.

Had it been you have a single iota of shame in you, you won't still be open mouth when your lies are exposed.

You lie conveniently just to defend...yet shouting up and down to be the true follower of Christ.

Maximus69:
Luke 10:1,17 Act 2:41 4:4
That is how TRUE Christians keep records of whatever they do each year and how many became believers!
Jehovah's Witnesses have won with accuracy and efficacy, so try to present another GROUP meeting up with our standard.
You can't just be fighting someone who said he is the only child of Mr A, while your argument is that Mr A has many children!
Haba talk your own now?
Abi you just dey argue for everybody?
Which one be your own church?
Why you no fit talk am make everyone know am?
Why you just dey hala because person talk say Jesus belongs ONLY to him?
Why you self no fit talk the same?
Abeg no kill yourself for Jehovah Witness matter o!

Damage control.....this won't save you!

A shameless lying liar spew these in one page of a thread, yet still boasting in his stupidity!

"Jehovah's Witnesses heard God's voice through the reading, studying and prayerfully meditating on Bible prophecies, they noticed that God's time to destroy evil people is at hand, they started proclaiming it globally, millions repented and became Jehovah's Witnesses, God changed his mind on the time so that many more could repent as the millions who joined the few are now preaching and teaching zealously,"


"And when they were prophesying the whole world knew that the total number of JWs globally wasn't even up to 1m..."

You brought up different accusations by shifting the blame on people when your own organization admitted they erred.

"The Lord did not say that the Church would all be glorified by 1914. We merely inferred it and, evidently, erred.” Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

vintino:
Wow that serves the guy right... Now the guy won't be able to eat or sleep again.... No lady will even accept to date him!


Some people mumu sha.... Well I think there should be age limit to this relationship of a thing...


If you tell me you are no longer interested.... That's your own headache not mine... Life continues!


RIP to the dead though!

And you think life revolves around only you...

*If you can let go of thing without looking back many people can't...
*If you can drink to wipe away disappointment a lot of people can't...
*If you don't take relationship serious many people do take it serious.....


It was this diversity of lives that make life to have meaning.

Maximus69:
Please show which verse say 'Jonah's cry was to make them repent or change' because if it was in anticipation for change, Jonah won't be disappointed and ANGRY at all{Jonah 4:1} since he already knew that if they repent God will delay the destruction of Nineveh!
Moreover the destruction of Nineveh wasn't totally abolished because after Jonah and his contemporaries have died, God later brought all that Jonah said upon Nineveh!

Of course only a deluded person like you will read another meaning into it and think Jonah won't have preached repentance to them.

Even from your first post, you said "Jonah PREACHED"

So you can continue to hit your head on the wall, Jehovah's Witnesses did exactly the same as Jonah did.

Why you continue soaking your head inside the ass of your GB

And when they were prophesying the whole world knew that the total number of JWs globally wasn't even up to 1m but today baptised JWs are numbering about 8.5m while 3times the number are intensively studying with JWs globally,with the propect of joining the peaceful and happy global family of like minded believers! 1Corinthians 1:10

Just look at the @underlined and see how Satan himself will be happy that his son is doing a perfect work because he's the father of all liars.

Your previous statement was:

"Jehovah's Witnesses heard God's voice through the reading, studying and prayerfully meditating on Bible prophecies, they noticed that God's time to destroy evil people is at hand, they started proclaiming it globally, millions repented and became Jehovah's Witnesses, God changed his mind on the time so that many more could repent as the millions who joined the few are now preaching and teaching zealously,"

You claimed "millions repented and became Jehovah witnesses, God changed His mind..." but here you agree they were not up to 1m and data shows that they lost more members that time, so where did your first claim of MILLIONS REPENTED came from?

Can't you see that you're lying?

Sorry don't let this pain you beyond this, take heart!

Says someone whose heart has been darkened and couldn't repent from lying which the Bible he carries around seriously hates.

Many who thought JWs prophesies failed now realised that it never failed as unbelievers like you are crying. 2Peter 3:3-10 It was because JEHOVAH is delaying it as millions are trooping into his global organization of faithful worshipers!

Another false accusation "many thought" when your own organization agreed that they erred

"The Lord did not say that the Church would all be glorified by 1914. We merely inferred it and, evidently, erred.” Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

Just so unfortunate how a liar like you can be so proudly lost in his ignorance and be happy with it.

When Jesus told John in the Bible book of Revelation saying 'Certainly i'm coming quickly' and John responded saying 'AMEN! please come Lord Jesus'. Revelations 22:20
Please would you expect John to tell people that Jesus will soon come or he won't come even till over 1900 years later?
Well think about how John felt when Jesus said that and the enthusiasm John felt, then compared it to how my born again brothers felt when Jesus in the Spirit energized them to startup what John heard almost 2,000 years ago!

Another gebbrish...all these won't save your lying as.s

So don't kill yourself over our matter Sir, if you're not certain that Jesus belongs to your own organization, we are 100% sure that Jesus is with ONLY our own GB and that is why they're capable of directing the affairs of his over 8,000,000 subjects globally!

Of course Jesus can't belong to a lying organization unless if you agree that your own Jesus support lies.

Maximus69:
Why not apply Deuteronomy 18:22 to Jonah's case? Did he prophesy? Did his prophecy happened as he foretold? Are you sure you read the story at all before trying to argue on social media? Jonah 3:10-4:4
Jonah was angry because God did not destroy the city as he had proclaimed Sir, it is there in all copies and versions of the Bible!

Whenever you're caught lying, instead of you to hide your face in shame you'll keep boasting in ignorance.

This is what God told Jonah

"Jonah 1:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me."

The instruction is to FIRST cry again it, that's why Jonah gave a span of 40days....

Compare this to your organization fake prophecies is what I can't understand.

Did your organization say if people repent God will reverse His judgment? If Yes! Give us the quote where such statement was made.

You're entitled to your own opinion Sir, so suit yourself because honesthearted and sincere individuals will surely SEE reasons with the TRUTH!

Now I'm entitled to my own opinion but when you're making useless assertion you didn't consider that.

Give us the data that shows how the numbers of JWs were increased in millions after the fake prophecies.

If not because you're a pathological liar you won't have said this in a public forum and still have mouth to talk.

You accuse unbelievers of seeing it as fake prophecies yet your own founder put the blame on members...

You claimed millions turned to God that's why God reversed His judgement....whereas your organization lost members instead.

Can't you see how God is exposing your satanic emotions instead of you seeking God genuinely in your closet?

Of course since you lack honesty and sincerity your darkened heart will never prick to see your lies and false accusation.

Maximus69:
The TRUTH is that Jehovah's Witnesses aren't guilty of false prophecies at all!

Something that is visible to the blind is what you're here trying to defend.

Because what Jehovah asked them to teach their members is exactly what they are teaching. But it is the unbelievers that's taking the words of JWs as FAILED prophecies.

Now you're blaming unbelievers whereas Russell your founder blamed his own followers which misunderstood him.

If this is true there's no need for Deu 18:22

But the truth is many people are saying what God did not say.

Jesus said 'an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign,and no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah the prophet' Matthew 12:39

Let's consider Jonah's case here. He was sent to declared a prophecy of doom against a nation, he ran away and God miraculously brought him back, nobody saw any miracles performed by Jonah, Jonah preached and STARTED EXPECTING HIS PROPHECY TO BE FULFILLED, many of Ninevites repented and God changed his mind over their destruction, Jonah got annoyed because God didn't fulfill what he said regarding Nineveh, God told him why he changed his mind, God later brought the destruction upon Nineveh but by then Jonah and most of his contemporaries were no more!

Another evidence of scriptural misinterpretation.

Firstly, not many of Nineveh repented but ALL OF THEM.

Secondly, Jonah wasn't angry because God didn't destroy the city rather Jonah like Abraham personally INTERCEED with great agony for the city to be spared by God.

This says a lot about how you people twist the scripture just to satisfy your selfish thought.

Jehovah's Witnesses heard God's voice through the reading, studying and prayerfully meditating on Bible prophecies, they noticed that God's time to destroy evil people is at hand, they started proclaiming it globally, millions repented and became Jehovah's Witnesses, God changed his mind on the time so that many more could repent as the millions who joined the few are now preaching and teaching zealously, unbelievers were setting their minds on the words of the first set of JWs who proclaimed the prophecies, they're even expecting them to perform miracles{signs} before they can consider them, millions who realised their own spiritual conditions PERSONALLY are fast studying and dedicating their lives to JEHOVAH, Jehovah is still going to destroy wicked people but that time is what he declared to no one!

If not because you're a liar the document available indicated that Watchtower society lost many of her members after those failed prophecies NOT THAT MORE MEMBERS (not to even talk of millions) were added.

It's evident that only a follower of Satan that can lie openly without a single shame.

Please i may be wrong,so help me sought out where i missed the similarities in the circumstances surrounding ancient Jonah and today's Jehovah's Witnesses? But think deeply about what Jesus had in mind before likening the situation to what happened in the time of No other prophet but Jonah and Noah!

You're actually wrong because Jesus references to Jonah was about THREE DAYS and THREE NIGHT Jonah spent at the belly of fish which is all about His resurrection not your concorted lies.

That's why you can't go further to add verse 40 "Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

I will still present the similarities between what is happening to Jehovah's Witnesses today and the time of ancient Noah!

Sorry you can't present shit rather say you want to twist scripture for your gullible audiences.

KristaPretty:
So I should fry my shoe now or what?

And where did the OP invite you to fry anything

johnydon22:
How so?

Because i can't see the connection.

You said this from OP:
"In the big bang theory, a singularity of infinite mass banged into our universe."

Isn't the first single cell infinite?

I don't think so

Ok

johnydon22:
Here is one thing we know about infinity, it is not quantifiable or divisible.

There cannot be two infinities otherwise, they are finite. There is just infinity.

In the big bang theory, a singularity of infinite mass banged into our universe.

But the problem is, this universe isn't infinite.

So, how can an infinite value give rise to something finite?

This suggests that infinity is divisible.

But the problem is, infinite divide by 2 is still infinity, infinity divided by infinity is still infinity.

How do you make sense of this problem?

The same thing with evolution of single cell

No right thinking person can look into all these postulations and won't laugh at those who hold their faith on them.

Maximus69:
Hmmm, so you're a member of the DEAD Churches!

Sorry Sir, Lazarus will NEVER cool your tongue with water {Luke 16:24-26} since you've joined your tormented brothers to keep deceiving yourselves! Luke 16:28

So keep gnashing your teeth in agony Sir, we can not stop speaking of what we have seen and heard. Act 4 :20
America declared FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP {association}
You too are FREE to go out there and start declaring whatever you know, no wahala!
Unless you have NOTHING to offer! Psalms 115:4-8

As usual, always attacking a straw man.

You people will say the name CHRISTIAN has been corrupted or hijacked by the devil yet your organization can't do without referencIng the Name or apply it to themselves whenever it suits them.

That's delusion...and double standard!

You lied that God changed the name from Jesus witness to Jehovah witness without scriptural evidence, whereas your organization didn't say God changed the name but they ADOPTED the name.

Meanwhile, the truth from the Holy scripture is that:
1. The Father Himself witnesses about His Son
2. The Holy Spirit witnesses about The Son
3. The Apostles witnessed about Christ
4. Christ Himself commanded all His followers to bear witness of Him.

Only your organization goes against the writing of the scripture by creating commandment for themselves.

Nairasurplus:
So after following Christ, he will not meet misfortune again? Does religion stop misfortunes from coming to someone?

I don't understand.

That's is the mistake you people always make, from his write up, he didn't say misfortune won't come again rather GOD gave him another CHANCE to rewrite his wrong.

Which means he knew what he was into before and how the accident was an avenue to amend his way.

Jesus Christ said "in the world you shall see tribulation"