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Maximus69:
Please can you tell or show me from the scriptures those who PROHIBITED God's holy name which his only begotten Son said is important?

If actually they prohibited it back then and some today are encouraging people to remember God's name, but you're now agitating against them, whose side are you God's friends or God's enemies?

That's why I'll always say you lack wisdom.

You claimed "how they'll quote those verses while speaking before their Jewish brothers without mentioning the divine name JEHOVAH"

Now look at the @bold in your post, you said "some today are encouraging people"

Are we talking of today or your lie of the Apostles speaking BEFORE THEIR JEWISH BROTHERS using a name forbid to be pronounced (only if they even no the pronunciation in the first place) without being accused

Jessicha:
From where did Paul Quote Romans 9:25 ?
Hebrew text or LXX . you are getting more stupid with each day Sir

From the Old Testament

Provide the evidence that it was Septuagint they quoted from.

Your stupidity is higher than heavens

Which part of Google ?

Indonesia part!

At least prove it, that V is wrong, any difference ?

Proof first that Jehovah is more correct than Yahweh

Maximus69:
OH i'm sorry Sir, i just want to know how they'll quote those verses while speaking before their Jewish brothers without mentioning the divine name JEHOVAH!

Did you aware that the pronunciation of the name was prohibited, which is even the reason why the name lost its pronunciation in the first place

Anyway, continue in your delusion

Jessicha:
Anger kills sense, learn to think before you reply, Google can even help you. Apostles quoted freely from LXX . and it has the divine name .

Likewise ignorance kill faster than diseases!

Provide the evidence that apostles quoted from it.

You can also see it on Google that they never!

tell if Yhwh is different from yhvh ?

Using question to answer question....olodo

Maximus69:
(1)Peter quoted Psalms 110:1
JEHOVAH said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until i make your enemies a stool for your fit! Act 2:34-35

(2)Paul quoted Joel 2:32
Everyone who calls on JEHOVAH's name will be saved! Romans 10:13

Perhaps i'm mistaken, i need someone to correct me!

I didn't ask you if they quote OLD TESTAMENT...Olodo!!!

Barristter07:
Your silly sef now admit the name appeared in Septuagint which is a Greek writing, which renders your equivalent argument dumb and senseless . So you are telling me that you didn't know the apostles quoted from the Septuagint ?

Brainwashed JWs where did I admit such?

Were you their when the apostles were written their books?

Expose yourself again after disgracing yourself on J. . Emphasis on " V"

YHWH or YHVH , any difference ?

Exposing your ignorance....

Just tell us how Jehovah was formed and what makes it correct more than YAHWEH simple.

Barristter07:
Your inability to answer that question was what points to the Fact.

That's not a fact, go back to school.

Are they the originals?

Give us the original...i guess your NWT was translated from the original.

Just as the name disappeared from late copies of Septuagint.

Which Greek Equivalent of the divine name appear in the original Septuagint quoted by the apostles in their writings?

Where is your evidence that the Apostles quoted from the Septuagint?

Not refuted ? Tell if J in Jeremiah , Jehonadab is correct or not ?

Tell is it only J you found wrong in what I posted?

Barristter07:
To disgrace yourself dey hungry you.
Was the name removed from the later copies of the Greek Septuagint ?

The idiot is even asking for Greek Equivalent, what was the Greek equivalent used in the Greek Septuagint ?

If not because you're so dull you asked a question and you called it FACTS is that what you were taught fact is

Meanwhile, we're talking about Greek manuscripts of the NT that we have.

Does the name appear there or use by any NT writers?

The question is still there ! U lack knowledge of the subject u dived

Just as my point still there not refuted.

And you lack understand couple with wisdom.

Barristter07:
Since you can't tackle the Facts , you resort to rants ?

And where are the facts and who presented them?

Even the J you are yet to prove wrong. The question is still there !

Did you prove my post wrong first before you talk about J Mr hypocrite?

Maximus69:
You see how dubious you're?

You cited the name 'Ogun' as example and after seeing that doesn't make sense anymore you switch over to another argument and began your usual name calling!

Just like I always say, you lack mental capacity to follow discussion step by step that's why you always deviate from the subject matter and pile up junks of trashes.

Anyways, that's how your brain has been wired.

I site Ogun based on what your own organization said that the pronunciation of God's name isn't that important that is why God didn't bother to preserve it.

Yet the same organization went ahead to claim God's name is important and need to be mentioned everytime even went ahead to name herself with it by claiming to have received this new name (which God didn't bother to preserve it's pronunciation).

This is a self contradictory statements.

Well i made my little grandson my name sake and he's still battling with the correct pronunciation of my/his name till now, i always feel on top of the world anytime he responds to the question 'what is your name?' though the pronunciation amuses everyone and myself because he's yet to get it. But nobody dares stop him from calling the name i his grandpa gave my little angel because he's just a kid and i'm 100% sure he'll soon get used to it.

Will you be happy if you spent huge amount on your child only for him to be pronouncing the Word "English" wrongly

Hypocrite!

That's humans for you Sir, talkless JEHOVAH who knew what it cost him to redeem us from sin! John 3:16

See how ridiculous you sound!

It cost Jehovah much to redeem us but just a name Jehovah is now holding against us.

Since Jehovah didn't bother on how I pronounce His name, then what is wrong of me calling Him Lord or God

Why are you accusing those who change the divine name to Lord and God of wrong doing?

If Lord and God isn't correct name and Jehovah isn't correct pronunciation, what's the different

[s]For your information Sir, we're going to live forever and there's never going to be a time we'll finish learning all that we need to know about our Grandmaker. Ecclesiastes 3:11
So his name is just what we need now for Salvation {Joel 2:32} and we're already enjoying the BENEFITS now as over 8.5 million are unitedly worshiping together as one happy global family!

If you're not seeing the benefits of the name, we're seeing it Sir. And it's reassuring that we're going to get all other benefits just as he has promised! [/s]

Shove that into your scrotum!

God bless you!

Why not Jehovah?

Maximus69:
What is the essence of asking the one you yourself has confirmed as a liar any further question?
Of what need is such question again since you can't trust the one you want to ask?

And yet you replied...without answer the questions.... Isn't that absurd and show your nitwit mind

Keep deluding yourself with deceptive reasoning.

Keep swimming in the ocean of your brainwashed.

Jacob, Joseph, Jonathan, Jeremiah, Joshua, Josiah, Jehonadab, John, Jesus, James, Jude and so on are found in the same book 'Bible' and still in use till now.
Satan did not oppose all those names claiming that the pronunciation is not accurate, but the name of the Author himself is what all of you are against!

If not because you're an Olodo with evidence that you don't understand subject matter before dive into it. You won't have talked about PRONUNCIATION here when we're talking about WORD FORMATION from the ROOT WORD.

You can call the name of his son 'Jesus' without a second thought.

Was Jesus not derive from a root word!
This shows again that you don't understand a shit of what we're discussing here but only ranting like a rabies dog.

The word Jehovah was WRONGLY FORMULATED that's the point and get that into your dull skull.

My friend, since Jesus said his father's name is of great importance to him. Whether pronounced correctly or wrongly is not the case anymore, the owner of the name has said he will forgive all our blunders if only we stick to instructions!
If the son says his father's name should be Satisfied and made known, the pronunciation of 'Emusan' can never be an obstacle for anyone who wants to help others with your name as owner of the post Sir!

Seek to instruction-so why will God gave you a new name and at the same time didn't bother how the name should be pronounced

Just look at the thrash you're spewing from mouth just to defend lie...

Will you be happy if your son pronounced your name wrongly

Did Jesus pronounce the name wrongly or correctly?

Barristter07:
The same way Deluded people like you believed the name doesn't exist in the Septuagint until Older copies that retained the divine name were found. Which shut your mouths, If the Septuagint could be corrupted and the name removed, What stop it from been removed from Greek manuscript's that exist presently ?

As usual you're now using style to say the current Greek manuscripts we have aren't authentic....

Just continue to claim Bible has been corrupted..

The same way your organization lies that people have removed the divine name from the Bible but only to be claiming that, version like KJV used the word Jehovah

You for answer that one first nah, would J in Jeroboam, Jehonadab , Japheth, Joshua, Jesus , Jeremiah, Jeribai be viewed as correct ?

Brainwashed JWs is it only J you found wrong in what I posted?

Barristter07:
Of course, even when they quoted from the Septuagint which uses the name ?

So why we didn't find the GREEK equivalent of the divine name in any of their writing? Or you'll tell us the Greek manuscripts aren't authentic?

J in Jeremiah , correct or wrong ?

Is it only J you found wrong their?

Barristter07:
And Who exactly emphasized that Yahweh is more correct ?

The article from your organization said so!

And Yahweh is the correct one ?

Yes even your organization agreed on that

Maybe you can just tell me YAHWEH is wrong and Jehovah is the correct one!

What matters is the Divine name was restored to its right place in the scripture _ the four Hebrew consonants standing for the Divine name are very much RETAINED [YHWH/ JHVH ]

With a wrong formulation one and fraudulently inserted into Greek where it didn't appear.

Pronunciation is not the issue here since even Jesus is not the correct pronunciation, But are the Four consonants RETAINED ?

Pronunciation is an issue Mr brainwashed JWs...that's why even your fraudulent organization try to explain it away and eventually shot herself in the foot by claiming it's not important since God didn't bother to preserve it.

The four consonants didn't APPEAR in Jehovah only TWO appear check the pic I attached earlier or below, can you see where you got it wrong?

Maximus69:
Why are you so obsessed with the word 'LYING'?

Well i said the name JEHOVAH was the conclusion of the first English translators who translated the Bible from Greek to English!

That's why you're seeing the name JEHOVAH in your KJV today, otherwise there wouldn't have been anything like that to be found in the King James Authorised Version of the English Bible Sir!

Haba don't allow the antijw virus in your brains to blur your sight nah!

I obsessed with your lies because only a follower of Satan can boldly lie.

So do you now agree that KJV is an authentic Bible version since it contains the very word your organization says people don't use again?

Besides, the point is why will watchtower society who came later after KJV continue to use the form Jehovah when it's obvious is a wrong formulation?

How will God claim to give watchtower society a NEW NAME, yet God didn't bother to preserve the pronunciation?

Isn't God supposed to tell the NEW PEOPLE how His name will be pronounced?

Do you now realize that you are addressing God with wrong pronunciation?

In case you don't know, let use this as an example
The word "Ogun" has different pronunciation in Yoruba which leads to its different meanings.

What if the pronunciation of Yoruba "god of Iron" is lost and the worshippers addressing their god "ogun - as in 'stab or twenty'", do you think it's proper?

Maximus69:
Because they kept it secret for too long, the correct pronunciation of the name was lost. But during the translation from Greek to English, JEHOVAH was the conclusion of the early translators.

Look at the @underlined and see how you're lying on a public forum.

First, Jehovah never have anything to do with Greek even the Greek writers who pen down the NT never use it.

Lastly, even your organization knows that Jehovah was formed by a Roman Catholic mock Ray who is never a translator of any version of the Bible.

The funny thing is, you accuse people of substituting Lord or God which is from Adonai or Elohim but to even choose Jehovah that a Vowel of Adonai or Elohim was inserted to form and because of "people's familiarity with it" is the most irony of it all.

One fact remains that most people often argued that the alphabet 'J' wasn't included in the Jewish writing. But that could be questioned because the city of the great king is named 'J'erusalem till today!

The J argument isn't the most center one, the main issue is that Jehovah was formed wrongly and never that important just as your organization agreed.

Check the pic below the major problem with the word Jehovah and why Yahweh supersedes it.

frank317:
ya right... same why some people who dont bother to pray is part of a purpose and the need for you guys to preach to him on the relevance of prayer is part of the purpose(despite your God assigning them never to believe. Your purpose on earth is to go on a wild goose chase for your God.

This doesn't address my question

Pls put on ur thinking cap for once.

Did you put your first?

Janosky:
Blocked head Janosky and sense are mutually divorced.


Hypocrite Janosky and sense are mutually divorced since 19gbidigbidi !!!!

The same way you know that the "conventional pronunciation" of the name of God's son (is Jesus, even when it's "ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION " Yehoshua" is known.) that's the same way we know the "conventional pronunciation" of YHWH is Jehovah (if you prefer Yahweh, issue no dey)
even though the ORIGINAL Pronunciation of YHWH is unknown.
Since you know the actual pronunciation of God's name is unknown to anyone alive today, why are you so daft to LIE that Yahweh is the correct way to pronounce YHWH?

Is 'Jesus' the actual pronunciation

The reason why you people will continue to be confused as anything is that your brain is too blocked and defiled the law of reasoning.

Did you even ever ask yourself why your own organization says "While many are inclined to view the pronunciation “Yahweh” as the more correct way,..."?

The reason is looking at the root word from where both YAHWEH and Jehovah derived from, Yahweh closed to the root word, where Jehovah only has two alphabets of the root word.

This is different from other Biblical names where their root names and pronunciation are known.

See the picture below.....

Ode or you want to tell me that the pronunciation of Jesus has been lost too..

PastorAIO:
Says who? We know that from time immemorial the Jews have kept the name secret. How do you know that that secret is still not being kept by the select few? Just because you don't know doesn't mean that nobody else must know.

Haven't you just shot yourself in the foot by saying the name is not important. You who have started a whole cult on the basis of restoring this name that you don't even know.

From what I can tell from the bible the name was indeed important and so the reason it has not been 'preserved for you to use' must be because you are not favoured in any way.

I guess this post wasn't directed to me....

Barristter07:
Where in that statement I gave you did the speaker said Yahweh is more correct?

And where did I say "YOU SAID" the speaker says so

The speaker only agreed or acknowledged that there are various forms Favoured by different people for various reasons

Look at the two @underlined as see how you lie boldly in broad daylight.

@underlined 1: The speaker specifically mentioned YAHWEH which is not about agreeing or acknowledge VARIOUS FORMS (Plural)

@underlined 1: No reason was stated rather emphasized that "the pronunciation of Yahweh is MORE CORRECT WAY"

"The form Jehovah " shows where the speaker belongs . the Form he agreed with.

The speaker then went ahead to state his own reasons for adopting that!

Are you saying the form Yahweh and form Jehovah are different

And imagine the ridiculous reason "because people familiarity with it"

Does people familiarity make it correct one?

Whereas you are the one who will claim you people are the only followers of Christ irrespective of what others hold about God.

Hypocrite!

Comprehende ?

Best for you!

Just as you use the original pronunciation for Jesus and others ?

Dumb excuse as usual....so it means the word Jehovah you're even pronouncing isn't the actual one and you think with your dumb skull that it'll will please God.

How do you know the conventional pronunciation in your language when the ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION has lost

Even with this obvious statement from your demonic organization, it's enough to open your eyes.

Barristter07:

" While many are inclined to view the pronunciation “Yahweh” as the more correct way, we have retained the form “Jehovah” because of people’s familiarity with it for centuries. "
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101985061

How does this translate to they agree Yahweh is more correct ?

See the person accusing someone of having comprehension issue whereas is you and your brother who have been displaying such here.

This statement "...WE HAVE RETAINED the form JEHOVAH because of people's familiarity with it" what does it mean? If the speaker point wasn't because Yahweh is accurate than Jehovah

The statement should have been "...we have retained the form Jehovah because it's the actual correct one"

Also see what your hypocritical organisation has to say about the name you're fighting for.

"Thus it is evident that the original pronunciation of God's name is no longer known. Nor is it really important. If it were, then God Himself would have made sure that it was preserved for us to use. The important thing is to use God's name according to its conventional pronunciation in our own language." The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever p.7

frank317:
Do u know the implications of accepting we are created for a purpose? It eliminates Gods role.. It shows that prayer, fasting and praises are silly, because with or without these things ur purpose stands.

So how do you know that prayer, fasting and praises aren't part of that purpose

omale88:
If you haven't attempted taking your life before then don't say a thing on this thread, you think what leads to suicide is a joke?you think to decide to take your own life is child's play?if you have never thought of suicide then you haven't reach the peak of your problems in life yet,now you think those who commit suicide are being foolish because you think like an infant,you have no ideal what real depression is, you have no idea of what it means to be marooned at the middle of the Pacific to swim your way to life while sailors cheer you up passing by in their ship,you have no idea to be in a situation where no one believes you or wants to understand you,you have no idea of what it means to seek money for a surgery and people who can afford to give you that tell you all they could offer is a prayer,as I have said you have no idea about this ailment called depression you are on your own in depression no angel or demon can pull you out of that because they don't feel,God gave only a man the power to do so,but when a man fails,you would be dragged into a cesspool of darkness then perish,but when you survive you become in evitable because you have conquered death in a battle to live and die with a purpose.only those powerful people can relate to what I have written, so I urge all you kids blaming people for comiting suicide to shut it!. the only reason why you blame people for comiting suicide is because you think their choice or options are as clear as yours. You have no idea.

Since I join Nairaland this is the best post I've ever read so straightly addressed the topic in view!

God blesses you for this beautiful post.

The @underlined made my day....

Kkings11:
first Dubai has did it. then Saudi Arabia follow and did it and Japan also did it. My question is when will Nigeria did it too. let time don't come when Togo will did it we will now be thinking why we didn't did it

You need this thread badly...

https://www.nairaland.com/3353009/more-than-just-simple-mistakes

Janosky:
"God's name?
"While inclining to view the pronunciation
[size=14pt]"Yah.weh" as the more correct
way,[/size] we have retained the form
[size=14pt]"Jehovah" because of people's
familiarity with it since the 14th century."
Ibid., p. 23


The above statement is a misleading fabrication of your copy and paste online crew.

*Please note: Hebrew scholars generally
favor "Yahweh" as the most likely
pronunciation."
[quote author=Emusan

JWs have NEVER said Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah"
Fact**

If not because you're daft

What is the meaning of this statement?

"While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's
familiarity with it since the 14th century."
Ibid., p. 23

Yet you called me a liar, when it's obvious you're the liar and keep exposing your ignorance!

YAHWEH as the MORE CORRECT way indicated that this is a comparison statement.

Then I can ask you, which one is not MORE CORRECT WAY?

Even hear your hypocrite organization speaking from both mouths

"Thus it is evident that the original pronunciation of God's name is no longer known. Nor is it really important. If it were, then God Himself would have made sure that it was preserved for us to use. The important thing is to use God's name according to its conventional pronunciation in our own language." The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever p.7

Pronunciation of God's name isn't important and God didn't bother to preserve it yet you carry the name on head like Gala.

Dp

Janosky:
I have read your link hence I could see what every honest person would see in that link coupled with your statement.

Janosky can't stop LYING.
Did you Emusan post these statements (1) & (2)?


Pls give an honest reply.

If you actually read the link, how come you missed the part in the attached pix below

Delusion JWs!

Janosky:
JWs themselves admitted that the
rendering of Yahweh is more accurate
than Jehovah "

That is the LIE JANOSK is guilty of..
JWs NEVER said it.

**** Mr LIAR, you are NOT honest.
You posted this write up below, yet you still LIED that JWs said it.
"Hebrew scholars generally favor
"Yahweh" as the most likely
pronunciation." [/size] Aid to Bible
Understanding, Watchtower Bible And Tract
Society, 1971, pp. 884, 885
Please note: Hebrew scholars generally
favor "Yahweh" as the most likely
pronunciation."

***This is JWs authentic statement below.
NWT---New World Translation is the
Jehovah's witness version of the Holy Bible.
1. The Usage of Jehovah in the NWT
In the NWT, the Bible of the Jehovah's
Witnesses, we read the following:
"Therefore, the foremost feature of this
translation is the RESTORATION of the
DIVINE NAME to its rightful place in the
English text. It has been done, using the
commonly ACCEPTED English form
"Jehovah" 6,973 times in the Hebrews
Scriptures and 237 times in the Christian
Greek Scriptures." NWT p6.

So clear that you didn't read the link I provided.

Go back and read it slowly this time to clear your delusions. No time to spoon feed you!

Janosky:
Where is the proof for your claim? You too dey lie ,so bring your evidence let everyone see it....
If not, you're doing what you're very good at- LYING !

It's like NL is your home!

And all these while I've been challenging you to provide a single evidence of where I lied, yet you couldn't but only to be shouting lie lie, like a rabies dog

Anyway, this is what you asked for and it has been explained before.

https://www.nairaland.com/2242343/two-things-need-know-jehovahs#32451833

OmoOshodi:
Please I'm just curious

I need answers from matured minds only

Thanks

Who asked you to fight in the first place?

Maximus69:
I wanted to comment on your previous post when you said 'NEVER DISAPPOINT'
I hope you've not forgotten his promise? Matthew 10:19

And who do you think that statement meant for?

But as for the work of the Lord, i think you said your own Jesus still speaks with do directly, so why wait for what mine{who is no more speaking DIRECTLY with me} have to say about his work?
He supposed to tell you DIRECTLY right now what you need to do for him!

So you know all these, then you still went ahead to tell me "just get to work"

SMH...

Maximus69:
1Corinthians 15:58

So can you tell me the work of the Lord I've not been doing that I need to start doing?