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Janosky:
*** Romans10:13 Aramaic Bible
13 "For everyone who will call the name of
THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved." *
** Romans 10:13 copied Joel 2:32.
Apostle Paul will not omit the Greek
equivalent of YHWH (the Divine name ) in
his quote from Joel 2:32.
*** Mark 12:28-30

So it's now Aramaic, I thought you're shouting LXX before

Deluded JWs

Barristter07:
So they pronounce adonai where the name appeared, which means they didn't remove The NAME FROM SCRIPTURE , Yet you are so gullible to support people who deliberately cut out the name.


Meanwhile, That tradition of pronouncing adonai, From God or Man ?

Olodo...
The name was substituted with Adonai or Elohim and the pronunciation was prohibited....

Get that into your empty skull....

Barristter07:
The question was : provide evidence that the apostles quoted from LXX. And a quote was given you from LXX in apostle's writing, What happened to your sense ?

This point to the fact that either Quoting from LXX or The Hebrew text, The apostles would find the divine name

The problem of you is that you go to any length to proof rubbish....

Your point was if the apostles quoted LXX where the name appeared they will actually put the name there.

But yet you can't provide where the apostles quoted the LXX where the divine name appeared....

Confused JWs

Besides, it was Origen LXX that matches NT word for word simply because Origen purposely edited it. The funny part was that you're the one who was shouting that the old LXX contained the name.

So which LXX are you using here?

Barristter07:


Is Yahweh more correct ? What about Yahveh? Yehowah, Jahveh, Jehovah ?

Provide the more correct form since your sense Omit the fact that the Four Letters representing the name were retained, The issue of " Form " is Pronounciation . A Good translation would do well to retain the four Consonant Letters of the Tetragrammaton.

My point is centered @underlined....

Olodooo

The more correct form has been agreed upon with MOST SCHOLARS...

Why haven't you proved why Jehovah is more correct?

Everybody knows the formation of Jehovah is wrong but only a deluded person like you will try to proof it right, which I'm sure had it been your organization had early adopted the form YAHWEH you won't be here throwing your support for Jehovah.

Now you're arguing about good translations having the four consonant letters but failed to talk about the wrong formulation.

Maximus69:
I have a father and i've never addressed him by name but his name is my logo everywhere i go because everyone can see that i'm his photocopy!

Most people don't know Jesus' father by name apart from the Jews, so if we're doing anything and asked who ordered us to do so, there's no other way than to say it's the way JEHOVAH ordered us to do it.

It's them that will now ask us 'who is JEHOVAH?' Exodus 5:2

That's the significance of mentioning the name Sir! Mark 12:29

So far you're still attacking strawman!

Barristter07:
There is no question that the divine name appeared in the Hebrew Text, So Jesus evidently pronounced the name when reading , at the time of Jesus, the name was still KNOWN. and am not sure Jessicha said LXX is in the synagogue, her point was: Jesus and his apostles quoted from LXX . Valid. U can't prove that wrong

You assertion was geared on the probability of the name appearing in Greek writing and which equivalent was used , thankfully the LXX sheds Light on that

That's why I said you lack understand.

No one says the name wasn't known even till now but the pronunciation of the name has been forbidden so people pronounce Adonai or Elohim anywhere the name appeared. Get that into your empty skull!


So are you saying Jehovah was translated from the Greek equivalent of the divine name?

You're just throwing tantrums around without proving how the Jehovah is more correct which is the basis of my point.

Anyway, I know you people never stick to the point of view but always dancing around like a fowl

Barristter07:
Good response!

Since he can't deny it, Shame won't let him admit

As shame won't let you admit your demonic doctrines lies.

The point remains: She provide evidence that the apostles quoted from it.

And to your deluded mind...Romans supported her claim.

By the way, which LXX did she provide the quote, Origen or oldest one?

Barristter07:
You ask for evidence that the apostles quoted LXX which retains the divine name , there you have it. ! Which strongly points to the fact that they use the divine name in their writing's so either they read the Greek or Hebrew, they would use the divine name when quoting

So think well next time before you make stupid assertions.

Olodo

So Romans contains the divine name bah?

Still waiting for your evidence.

Stop being silly

Jessicha:
The evidence is staring at you , did the apostles quote LXX or not.


Did Paul quote LXX at Romans 9:25 or not ? Eleleya

Olodo buruku....

Where was Paul's other quotes come from?

Did you agree that the LXX was never used at the temple of Jews before?

Which version did Jesus read? because you've hypocritically shame away from that point now.

Barristter07:
You are so deluded.

Deluded person looking for mate

Apostles quoted from LXX , Yes or no ?



Jessicha cited Romans 9:25 , not only did she cite that as an example, she went ahead to highlight the wording of the text , All you need to do is tell if that quote of the apostle Paul is LXX or not ?

Strawman arguments

So upon all your shout it's only Romans 9:25 you can cling on. Whereas the divine name doesn't even appear there.

So where was other quote from Paul come from!

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Right now i feel like an abomination and a disgrace to my family. Have tried visiting the HOD's in my school unfortunately, I was informed students from the same school can't switch to same school [Different department] i dont know why i think it's best known to them.

Mind you am in my mid 20s with no achievement or any money making skills.

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Regards,

Firstly, computer science is a good course and future more wanted course. Please don't miss the opportunity.

Secondly, I don't know what motivated you to choose that course in the first place but I'll never advice you to discard the course because Tech and programming are the future.

Thirdly, good grade is good but grade isn't the yard stick in tech world, your creative ideas and passion for your field is.

Lastly, which is just an advice, if you truly have passion for it, then forgert about the current predicament and make sure you give yourself personal development so that you can be a guru in your field.
And if the passion is the problem, then you can throw it away and start afresh it's never too late but this time ensure that it's in line with what you crave and have passion for.

Maximus69:
Well all your questions could easily be summed up in one:
Who is the WORD of God? John 1:1,18

Because it's evident that the WORD of God will know how every text in the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi should be correctly and wisely applied! Matthew 6:9, John 17:6,26

So why is there no scriptural support that Jesus used the name nor the apostles

I show you even from your own translation that Jesus never addressed the Father with the divine name!

How will Jesus address the Father more than 20times without a single time recorded to have used the divine name, if the name is so important

What leads to this argument is the fact that the Jews developed an idea that God's name be hidden.
But God's son insisted that his father's name be made known, as recorded at John 17:26.

Did it occur to you that name as being used by the scripture speaks more about the NATURE and very ESSENCE of God not about going up and down shouting personal name

So since none of us was present during the first century to know if Jesus actually mentioned the name or not, what we know today is the mindset of Jesus {1Corinthians 2:16} and this can lead us to the answer if God's name should be pronounced or not!

But all your points have been centered on JESUS MADE MENTION OF THE NAME! So now your tune has change because you know within you that the Jews would've used that to accuse Jesus the more.

If Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6:4 as written in Mark 12:29, surely he must have pronounced the name without bowing to the tradition of those wicked Jews whose mindset have been blurred by Satan{the resister and liar}! John 8:44

But why must it be until Jesus quoted from the old testament that he'll make use of the name?

Isn't it better and beautiful if Jesus personally addressed His Father with the name rather than using it through quoting from OT?

And of course the WORD of God{Jesus Christ} is not unaware of all the evil intentions of those wicked Jews who wanted God's name forgotten {Jeremiah 23:27} i strongly believe that he has existed even before Abraham { John 8:58} So nothing as in NOTHING is hidden under the Sun from him! John 1:48

Is it only before Abraham or before creation?

The point is, if the name is so important why Jesus didn't address the Father directly with the name?

Jessicha:
I know you don't have sense

Which old testament , Masoretic text or Greek LXX ?

I know you lost your sense from womb...

LXX has never been found at the temple of the Jews

Romans 9:25 quoted Hosea and said " it is as he says also in Hosea: Those not my people I will Call my people, and her who was not beloved , beloved "

Which version include the bold ?

Go and ask Google the version the Jews always use at the temple

best description of yourself

Perfect description of yourself.

Neither is Yahweh more correct , we still have Yahveh, Yehowah etc . But the form familiar to the English Speaker as Gods name is Jehovah. U can cry now

Let your cry reaches heaven

Maximus69:
Hmmm,

Are you saying Jesus also forgot God's name or he succumbed to the tradition that forbids the pronunciation of his father's name? John 17:26
Because Jesus is ready to die for the truth {John 18:37} he's not scared of anyone, and he strengthened his followers never to be scared even while facing the threat of death ! Matthew 10:28

So when he quoted Deuteronomy 6:4, do you think he also hid the divine name out of fear? Mark 12:8-29

Are you saying those Apostles forgot God's name that Jesus taught them?
Or they were scared of pronuncing God's name before those fierced antagonists?

You're becoming more and even much more deluded in your reasoning than i thought Sir!
If this is just due to the hatred you have for JWs, please don't allow it to blur your insight or kill your conscience!

See the most deluded person looking for a mate....

If not because your delusion is stronger than your reasoning, you'll have asked some simple questions.

>Which book was given to Jesus to read?
>Was God's name written there or the one already substituted with Adonai or Elohim?
>Won't those Jews see that as an opportunity to accuse Jesus the more?
>If Jesus actually taught his disciples about how to pronounce the name, wasn't supposed to be an evidence written in the scripture?
>Did the Jews looking for slight opportunity to accuse Jesus or the disciples of wrong doing?

>Lastly, why is it that Jesus Himself never addressed the Father anytime with the divine name?

I know because you've been brainwashed beyond measure you can't reason with this questions.

Anyway, the pix below tells you how Jesus Himself addressed the Father.

Maximus69:
Please can you tell or show me from the scriptures those who PROHIBITED God's holy name which his only begotten Son said is important?

If actually they prohibited it back then and some today are encouraging people to remember God's name, but you're now agitating against them, whose side are you God's friends or God's enemies?

That's why I'll always say you lack wisdom.

You claimed "how they'll quote those verses while speaking before their Jewish brothers without mentioning the divine name JEHOVAH"

Now look at the @bold in your post, you said "some today are encouraging people"

Are we talking of today or your lie of the Apostles speaking BEFORE THEIR JEWISH BROTHERS using a name forbid to be pronounced (only if they even no the pronunciation in the first place) without being accused

Jessicha:
From where did Paul Quote Romans 9:25 ?
Hebrew text or LXX . you are getting more stupid with each day Sir

From the Old Testament

Provide the evidence that it was Septuagint they quoted from.

Your stupidity is higher than heavens

Which part of Google ?

Indonesia part!

At least prove it, that V is wrong, any difference ?

Proof first that Jehovah is more correct than Yahweh

Maximus69:
OH i'm sorry Sir, i just want to know how they'll quote those verses while speaking before their Jewish brothers without mentioning the divine name JEHOVAH!

Did you aware that the pronunciation of the name was prohibited, which is even the reason why the name lost its pronunciation in the first place

Anyway, continue in your delusion

Jessicha:
Anger kills sense, learn to think before you reply, Google can even help you. Apostles quoted freely from LXX . and it has the divine name .

Likewise ignorance kill faster than diseases!

Provide the evidence that apostles quoted from it.

You can also see it on Google that they never!

tell if Yhwh is different from yhvh ?

Using question to answer question....olodo

Maximus69:
(1)Peter quoted Psalms 110:1
JEHOVAH said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until i make your enemies a stool for your fit! Act 2:34-35

(2)Paul quoted Joel 2:32
Everyone who calls on JEHOVAH's name will be saved! Romans 10:13

Perhaps i'm mistaken, i need someone to correct me!

I didn't ask you if they quote OLD TESTAMENT...Olodo!!!

Barristter07:
Your silly sef now admit the name appeared in Septuagint which is a Greek writing, which renders your equivalent argument dumb and senseless . So you are telling me that you didn't know the apostles quoted from the Septuagint ?

Brainwashed JWs where did I admit such?

Were you their when the apostles were written their books?

Expose yourself again after disgracing yourself on J. . Emphasis on " V"

YHWH or YHVH , any difference ?

Exposing your ignorance....

Just tell us how Jehovah was formed and what makes it correct more than YAHWEH simple.

Barristter07:
Your inability to answer that question was what points to the Fact.

That's not a fact, go back to school.

Are they the originals?

Give us the original...i guess your NWT was translated from the original.

Just as the name disappeared from late copies of Septuagint.

Which Greek Equivalent of the divine name appear in the original Septuagint quoted by the apostles in their writings?

Where is your evidence that the Apostles quoted from the Septuagint?

Not refuted ? Tell if J in Jeremiah , Jehonadab is correct or not ?

Tell is it only J you found wrong in what I posted?

Barristter07:
To disgrace yourself dey hungry you.
Was the name removed from the later copies of the Greek Septuagint ?

The idiot is even asking for Greek Equivalent, what was the Greek equivalent used in the Greek Septuagint ?

If not because you're so dull you asked a question and you called it FACTS is that what you were taught fact is

Meanwhile, we're talking about Greek manuscripts of the NT that we have.

Does the name appear there or use by any NT writers?

The question is still there ! U lack knowledge of the subject u dived

Just as my point still there not refuted.

And you lack understand couple with wisdom.

Barristter07:
Since you can't tackle the Facts , you resort to rants ?

And where are the facts and who presented them?

Even the J you are yet to prove wrong. The question is still there !

Did you prove my post wrong first before you talk about J Mr hypocrite?

Maximus69:
You see how dubious you're?

You cited the name 'Ogun' as example and after seeing that doesn't make sense anymore you switch over to another argument and began your usual name calling!

Just like I always say, you lack mental capacity to follow discussion step by step that's why you always deviate from the subject matter and pile up junks of trashes.

Anyways, that's how your brain has been wired.

I site Ogun based on what your own organization said that the pronunciation of God's name isn't that important that is why God didn't bother to preserve it.

Yet the same organization went ahead to claim God's name is important and need to be mentioned everytime even went ahead to name herself with it by claiming to have received this new name (which God didn't bother to preserve it's pronunciation).

This is a self contradictory statements.

Well i made my little grandson my name sake and he's still battling with the correct pronunciation of my/his name till now, i always feel on top of the world anytime he responds to the question 'what is your name?' though the pronunciation amuses everyone and myself because he's yet to get it. But nobody dares stop him from calling the name i his grandpa gave my little angel because he's just a kid and i'm 100% sure he'll soon get used to it.

Will you be happy if you spent huge amount on your child only for him to be pronouncing the Word "English" wrongly

Hypocrite!

That's humans for you Sir, talkless JEHOVAH who knew what it cost him to redeem us from sin! John 3:16

See how ridiculous you sound!

It cost Jehovah much to redeem us but just a name Jehovah is now holding against us.

Since Jehovah didn't bother on how I pronounce His name, then what is wrong of me calling Him Lord or God

Why are you accusing those who change the divine name to Lord and God of wrong doing?

If Lord and God isn't correct name and Jehovah isn't correct pronunciation, what's the different

[s]For your information Sir, we're going to live forever and there's never going to be a time we'll finish learning all that we need to know about our Grandmaker. Ecclesiastes 3:11
So his name is just what we need now for Salvation {Joel 2:32} and we're already enjoying the BENEFITS now as over 8.5 million are unitedly worshiping together as one happy global family!

If you're not seeing the benefits of the name, we're seeing it Sir. And it's reassuring that we're going to get all other benefits just as he has promised! [/s]

Shove that into your scrotum!

God bless you!

Why not Jehovah?

Maximus69:
What is the essence of asking the one you yourself has confirmed as a liar any further question?
Of what need is such question again since you can't trust the one you want to ask?

And yet you replied...without answer the questions.... Isn't that absurd and show your nitwit mind

Keep deluding yourself with deceptive reasoning.

Keep swimming in the ocean of your brainwashed.

Jacob, Joseph, Jonathan, Jeremiah, Joshua, Josiah, Jehonadab, John, Jesus, James, Jude and so on are found in the same book 'Bible' and still in use till now.
Satan did not oppose all those names claiming that the pronunciation is not accurate, but the name of the Author himself is what all of you are against!

If not because you're an Olodo with evidence that you don't understand subject matter before dive into it. You won't have talked about PRONUNCIATION here when we're talking about WORD FORMATION from the ROOT WORD.

You can call the name of his son 'Jesus' without a second thought.

Was Jesus not derive from a root word!
This shows again that you don't understand a shit of what we're discussing here but only ranting like a rabies dog.

The word Jehovah was WRONGLY FORMULATED that's the point and get that into your dull skull.

My friend, since Jesus said his father's name is of great importance to him. Whether pronounced correctly or wrongly is not the case anymore, the owner of the name has said he will forgive all our blunders if only we stick to instructions!
If the son says his father's name should be Satisfied and made known, the pronunciation of 'Emusan' can never be an obstacle for anyone who wants to help others with your name as owner of the post Sir!

Seek to instruction-so why will God gave you a new name and at the same time didn't bother how the name should be pronounced

Just look at the thrash you're spewing from mouth just to defend lie...

Will you be happy if your son pronounced your name wrongly

Did Jesus pronounce the name wrongly or correctly?

Barristter07:
The same way Deluded people like you believed the name doesn't exist in the Septuagint until Older copies that retained the divine name were found. Which shut your mouths, If the Septuagint could be corrupted and the name removed, What stop it from been removed from Greek manuscript's that exist presently ?

As usual you're now using style to say the current Greek manuscripts we have aren't authentic....

Just continue to claim Bible has been corrupted..

The same way your organization lies that people have removed the divine name from the Bible but only to be claiming that, version like KJV used the word Jehovah

You for answer that one first nah, would J in Jeroboam, Jehonadab , Japheth, Joshua, Jesus , Jeremiah, Jeribai be viewed as correct ?

Brainwashed JWs is it only J you found wrong in what I posted?

Barristter07:
Of course, even when they quoted from the Septuagint which uses the name ?

So why we didn't find the GREEK equivalent of the divine name in any of their writing? Or you'll tell us the Greek manuscripts aren't authentic?

J in Jeremiah , correct or wrong ?

Is it only J you found wrong their?

Barristter07:
And Who exactly emphasized that Yahweh is more correct ?

The article from your organization said so!

And Yahweh is the correct one ?

Yes even your organization agreed on that

Maybe you can just tell me YAHWEH is wrong and Jehovah is the correct one!

What matters is the Divine name was restored to its right place in the scripture _ the four Hebrew consonants standing for the Divine name are very much RETAINED [YHWH/ JHVH ]

With a wrong formulation one and fraudulently inserted into Greek where it didn't appear.

Pronunciation is not the issue here since even Jesus is not the correct pronunciation, But are the Four consonants RETAINED ?

Pronunciation is an issue Mr brainwashed JWs...that's why even your fraudulent organization try to explain it away and eventually shot herself in the foot by claiming it's not important since God didn't bother to preserve it.

The four consonants didn't APPEAR in Jehovah only TWO appear check the pic I attached earlier or below, can you see where you got it wrong?

Maximus69:
Why are you so obsessed with the word 'LYING'?

Well i said the name JEHOVAH was the conclusion of the first English translators who translated the Bible from Greek to English!

That's why you're seeing the name JEHOVAH in your KJV today, otherwise there wouldn't have been anything like that to be found in the King James Authorised Version of the English Bible Sir!

Haba don't allow the antijw virus in your brains to blur your sight nah!

I obsessed with your lies because only a follower of Satan can boldly lie.

So do you now agree that KJV is an authentic Bible version since it contains the very word your organization says people don't use again?

Besides, the point is why will watchtower society who came later after KJV continue to use the form Jehovah when it's obvious is a wrong formulation?

How will God claim to give watchtower society a NEW NAME, yet God didn't bother to preserve the pronunciation?

Isn't God supposed to tell the NEW PEOPLE how His name will be pronounced?

Do you now realize that you are addressing God with wrong pronunciation?

In case you don't know, let use this as an example
The word "Ogun" has different pronunciation in Yoruba which leads to its different meanings.

What if the pronunciation of Yoruba "god of Iron" is lost and the worshippers addressing their god "ogun - as in 'stab or twenty'", do you think it's proper?