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dondavinchi:
yes up till date it's a norm in calabar ,they derive pleasure eating human flesh

It's a lie, calabar don't eat human flesh only one local government area practicing that barbaric habit.

Yakkurr LGA

Even calabar and other place fear them

greymiles:
I thought they eat human flesh in calabar and surrounding towns before

No! it was just one local government area "Yakkurr" UGEP is their headquarter...if you go there and come back alive, give God the glory!

alBHAGDADI:
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Before we even talk about Jesus resurrected bodily or not, we must first address the illogical reasoning of JWs about the person sent by God.

This is what I'm still trying to get from them since.

They claim, the person sent doesn't have anything divine in him just pure human like you and I.

Then, isn't something must retain from his divine nature why he became human

Also, since Jesus is pure human like everyone else in the world, and NOTHING exists in human after death according to them.

What then from Jesus, God resurrected when the body wasn't taking back?

So, looking at it from this angle, you can see that according to their logic, God didn't send anybody no God resurrected anybody.

Jozzy4:
Can someone tell me how what Jesus did is significant if we humans are immortal Souls. An immortal being cannot die, so it's useless saying some one came and gave it everlasting life.

@bold your premises is wrong humans AREN'T immortal souls but HAVE immortal souls

We were created to live on earth with our physical body where we relate with God through our spirits.

The day Adam sinned against God the physical body was subjected to destruction, so Jesus came to give us back the first physical body to live forever.

Maximus69:
Hmmm, sorry o!
All these headache simply because we say our God differ from yours?
Abeg talk your own nah?
Or are you this empty that you have NOTHING to say about your own religious GROUP other than picking trouble with those claiming to be worshipers of their own God? John 8:12-20, Act 5:28
Must we worship your God who can't organise his scattered worshipers in an orderly manner? 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:5

I'm pointing out your lies which is very glaring on this thread but see where your deluded mind is going...

Of course I'm not here to argue with whether your God is differ from mine or not but if admitting that you're serving a living God whose eyes can't behold iniquity, who hates lies and says all liars belong to the lake of fire.

And your posts have been found out propagating lies and false accusations, then you need to reexamine which God you're truly serving.

Had it been you have a single iota of shame in you, you won't still be open mouth when your lies are exposed.

You lie conveniently just to defend...yet shouting up and down to be the true follower of Christ.

Maximus69:
Luke 10:1,17 Act 2:41 4:4
That is how TRUE Christians keep records of whatever they do each year and how many became believers!
Jehovah's Witnesses have won with accuracy and efficacy, so try to present another GROUP meeting up with our standard.
You can't just be fighting someone who said he is the only child of Mr A, while your argument is that Mr A has many children!
Haba talk your own now?
Abi you just dey argue for everybody?
Which one be your own church?
Why you no fit talk am make everyone know am?
Why you just dey hala because person talk say Jesus belongs ONLY to him?
Why you self no fit talk the same?
Abeg no kill yourself for Jehovah Witness matter o!

Damage control.....this won't save you!

A shameless lying liar spew these in one page of a thread, yet still boasting in his stupidity!

"Jehovah's Witnesses heard God's voice through the reading, studying and prayerfully meditating on Bible prophecies, they noticed that God's time to destroy evil people is at hand, they started proclaiming it globally, millions repented and became Jehovah's Witnesses, God changed his mind on the time so that many more could repent as the millions who joined the few are now preaching and teaching zealously,"


"And when they were prophesying the whole world knew that the total number of JWs globally wasn't even up to 1m..."

You brought up different accusations by shifting the blame on people when your own organization admitted they erred.

"The Lord did not say that the Church would all be glorified by 1914. We merely inferred it and, evidently, erred.” Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

vintino:
Wow that serves the guy right... Now the guy won't be able to eat or sleep again.... No lady will even accept to date him!


Some people mumu sha.... Well I think there should be age limit to this relationship of a thing...


If you tell me you are no longer interested.... That's your own headache not mine... Life continues!


RIP to the dead though!

And you think life revolves around only you...

*If you can let go of thing without looking back many people can't...
*If you can drink to wipe away disappointment a lot of people can't...
*If you don't take relationship serious many people do take it serious.....


It was this diversity of lives that make life to have meaning.

Maximus69:
Please show which verse say 'Jonah's cry was to make them repent or change' because if it was in anticipation for change, Jonah won't be disappointed and ANGRY at all{Jonah 4:1} since he already knew that if they repent God will delay the destruction of Nineveh!
Moreover the destruction of Nineveh wasn't totally abolished because after Jonah and his contemporaries have died, God later brought all that Jonah said upon Nineveh!

Of course only a deluded person like you will read another meaning into it and think Jonah won't have preached repentance to them.

Even from your first post, you said "Jonah PREACHED"

So you can continue to hit your head on the wall, Jehovah's Witnesses did exactly the same as Jonah did.

Why you continue soaking your head inside the ass of your GB

And when they were prophesying the whole world knew that the total number of JWs globally wasn't even up to 1m but today baptised JWs are numbering about 8.5m while 3times the number are intensively studying with JWs globally,with the propect of joining the peaceful and happy global family of like minded believers! 1Corinthians 1:10

Just look at the @underlined and see how Satan himself will be happy that his son is doing a perfect work because he's the father of all liars.

Your previous statement was:

"Jehovah's Witnesses heard God's voice through the reading, studying and prayerfully meditating on Bible prophecies, they noticed that God's time to destroy evil people is at hand, they started proclaiming it globally, millions repented and became Jehovah's Witnesses, God changed his mind on the time so that many more could repent as the millions who joined the few are now preaching and teaching zealously,"

You claimed "millions repented and became Jehovah witnesses, God changed His mind..." but here you agree they were not up to 1m and data shows that they lost more members that time, so where did your first claim of MILLIONS REPENTED came from?

Can't you see that you're lying?

Sorry don't let this pain you beyond this, take heart!

Says someone whose heart has been darkened and couldn't repent from lying which the Bible he carries around seriously hates.

Many who thought JWs prophesies failed now realised that it never failed as unbelievers like you are crying. 2Peter 3:3-10 It was because JEHOVAH is delaying it as millions are trooping into his global organization of faithful worshipers!

Another false accusation "many thought" when your own organization agreed that they erred

"The Lord did not say that the Church would all be glorified by 1914. We merely inferred it and, evidently, erred.” Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

Just so unfortunate how a liar like you can be so proudly lost in his ignorance and be happy with it.

When Jesus told John in the Bible book of Revelation saying 'Certainly i'm coming quickly' and John responded saying 'AMEN! please come Lord Jesus'. Revelations 22:20
Please would you expect John to tell people that Jesus will soon come or he won't come even till over 1900 years later?
Well think about how John felt when Jesus said that and the enthusiasm John felt, then compared it to how my born again brothers felt when Jesus in the Spirit energized them to startup what John heard almost 2,000 years ago!

Another gebbrish...all these won't save your lying as.s

So don't kill yourself over our matter Sir, if you're not certain that Jesus belongs to your own organization, we are 100% sure that Jesus is with ONLY our own GB and that is why they're capable of directing the affairs of his over 8,000,000 subjects globally!

Of course Jesus can't belong to a lying organization unless if you agree that your own Jesus support lies.

Maximus69:
Why not apply Deuteronomy 18:22 to Jonah's case? Did he prophesy? Did his prophecy happened as he foretold? Are you sure you read the story at all before trying to argue on social media? Jonah 3:10-4:4
Jonah was angry because God did not destroy the city as he had proclaimed Sir, it is there in all copies and versions of the Bible!

Whenever you're caught lying, instead of you to hide your face in shame you'll keep boasting in ignorance.

This is what God told Jonah

"Jonah 1:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me."

The instruction is to FIRST cry again it, that's why Jonah gave a span of 40days....

Compare this to your organization fake prophecies is what I can't understand.

Did your organization say if people repent God will reverse His judgment? If Yes! Give us the quote where such statement was made.

You're entitled to your own opinion Sir, so suit yourself because honesthearted and sincere individuals will surely SEE reasons with the TRUTH!

Now I'm entitled to my own opinion but when you're making useless assertion you didn't consider that.

Give us the data that shows how the numbers of JWs were increased in millions after the fake prophecies.

If not because you're a pathological liar you won't have said this in a public forum and still have mouth to talk.

You accuse unbelievers of seeing it as fake prophecies yet your own founder put the blame on members...

You claimed millions turned to God that's why God reversed His judgement....whereas your organization lost members instead.

Can't you see how God is exposing your satanic emotions instead of you seeking God genuinely in your closet?

Of course since you lack honesty and sincerity your darkened heart will never prick to see your lies and false accusation.

Maximus69:
The TRUTH is that Jehovah's Witnesses aren't guilty of false prophecies at all!

Something that is visible to the blind is what you're here trying to defend.

Because what Jehovah asked them to teach their members is exactly what they are teaching. But it is the unbelievers that's taking the words of JWs as FAILED prophecies.

Now you're blaming unbelievers whereas Russell your founder blamed his own followers which misunderstood him.

If this is true there's no need for Deu 18:22

But the truth is many people are saying what God did not say.

Jesus said 'an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign,and no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah the prophet' Matthew 12:39

Let's consider Jonah's case here. He was sent to declared a prophecy of doom against a nation, he ran away and God miraculously brought him back, nobody saw any miracles performed by Jonah, Jonah preached and STARTED EXPECTING HIS PROPHECY TO BE FULFILLED, many of Ninevites repented and God changed his mind over their destruction, Jonah got annoyed because God didn't fulfill what he said regarding Nineveh, God told him why he changed his mind, God later brought the destruction upon Nineveh but by then Jonah and most of his contemporaries were no more!

Another evidence of scriptural misinterpretation.

Firstly, not many of Nineveh repented but ALL OF THEM.

Secondly, Jonah wasn't angry because God didn't destroy the city rather Jonah like Abraham personally INTERCEED with great agony for the city to be spared by God.

This says a lot about how you people twist the scripture just to satisfy your selfish thought.

Jehovah's Witnesses heard God's voice through the reading, studying and prayerfully meditating on Bible prophecies, they noticed that God's time to destroy evil people is at hand, they started proclaiming it globally, millions repented and became Jehovah's Witnesses, God changed his mind on the time so that many more could repent as the millions who joined the few are now preaching and teaching zealously, unbelievers were setting their minds on the words of the first set of JWs who proclaimed the prophecies, they're even expecting them to perform miracles{signs} before they can consider them, millions who realised their own spiritual conditions PERSONALLY are fast studying and dedicating their lives to JEHOVAH, Jehovah is still going to destroy wicked people but that time is what he declared to no one!

If not because you're a liar the document available indicated that Watchtower society lost many of her members after those failed prophecies NOT THAT MORE MEMBERS (not to even talk of millions) were added.

It's evident that only a follower of Satan that can lie openly without a single shame.

Please i may be wrong,so help me sought out where i missed the similarities in the circumstances surrounding ancient Jonah and today's Jehovah's Witnesses? But think deeply about what Jesus had in mind before likening the situation to what happened in the time of No other prophet but Jonah and Noah!

You're actually wrong because Jesus references to Jonah was about THREE DAYS and THREE NIGHT Jonah spent at the belly of fish which is all about His resurrection not your concorted lies.

That's why you can't go further to add verse 40 "Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

I will still present the similarities between what is happening to Jehovah's Witnesses today and the time of ancient Noah!

Sorry you can't present shit rather say you want to twist scripture for your gullible audiences.

KristaPretty:
So I should fry my shoe now or what?

And where did the OP invite you to fry anything

johnydon22:
How so?

Because i can't see the connection.

You said this from OP:
"In the big bang theory, a singularity of infinite mass banged into our universe."

Isn't the first single cell infinite?

I don't think so

Ok

johnydon22:
Here is one thing we know about infinity, it is not quantifiable or divisible.

There cannot be two infinities otherwise, they are finite. There is just infinity.

In the big bang theory, a singularity of infinite mass banged into our universe.

But the problem is, this universe isn't infinite.

So, how can an infinite value give rise to something finite?

This suggests that infinity is divisible.

But the problem is, infinite divide by 2 is still infinity, infinity divided by infinity is still infinity.

How do you make sense of this problem?

The same thing with evolution of single cell

No right thinking person can look into all these postulations and won't laugh at those who hold their faith on them.

Maximus69:
Hmmm, so you're a member of the DEAD Churches!

Sorry Sir, Lazarus will NEVER cool your tongue with water {Luke 16:24-26} since you've joined your tormented brothers to keep deceiving yourselves! Luke 16:28

So keep gnashing your teeth in agony Sir, we can not stop speaking of what we have seen and heard. Act 4 :20
America declared FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP {association}
You too are FREE to go out there and start declaring whatever you know, no wahala!
Unless you have NOTHING to offer! Psalms 115:4-8

As usual, always attacking a straw man.

You people will say the name CHRISTIAN has been corrupted or hijacked by the devil yet your organization can't do without referencIng the Name or apply it to themselves whenever it suits them.

That's delusion...and double standard!

You lied that God changed the name from Jesus witness to Jehovah witness without scriptural evidence, whereas your organization didn't say God changed the name but they ADOPTED the name.

Meanwhile, the truth from the Holy scripture is that:
1. The Father Himself witnesses about His Son
2. The Holy Spirit witnesses about The Son
3. The Apostles witnessed about Christ
4. Christ Himself commanded all His followers to bear witness of Him.

Only your organization goes against the writing of the scripture by creating commandment for themselves.

Nairasurplus:
So after following Christ, he will not meet misfortune again? Does religion stop misfortunes from coming to someone?

I don't understand.

That's is the mistake you people always make, from his write up, he didn't say misfortune won't come again rather GOD gave him another CHANCE to rewrite his wrong.

Which means he knew what he was into before and how the accident was an avenue to amend his way.

Jesus Christ said "in the world you shall see tribulation"

Maximus69:
Apostate, so you still remain a spiritual fugitive of the none denominational refugees!

The spiritual war disrupting their high places {Churches} has rendered many of them homeless as in refugees from different devastated cities! They now lack confidence in their so called Pastors, GOs and so on due to betrayal of trust!

Jehovah's Witnesses are dwelling peacefully in our spiritual mountain that's unreachably too high for unbelievers to dwell! Isaiah 2:2

Sorry is you name!

That's how you people will be perambulating without addressing the main issue.

If the name CHRISTIAN has been tarnished or suddenly overtaken by Satan as you people always say, why is your organization still using the name CHRISTIAN?

That's the point!

You can eat your cake and also have it.

You can tell us how a name has been corrupted yet still associating with the same name.

LordReed:
You stated that God created everything independently but from the same SOURCE and when pressed how water and earth are the same source you revise the bible.

Imagine, when pressed or you couldn't phantom my post.

My last statement read: All creatures were called EARTHLY CREATURES, there's a reason for that...did you grab that

The bible does not say the god made the creatures from the Earth, it clearly states that the god made sea and air creatures from water while land creatures came from earth.

I can see how you keep confusing the word Earth and Land, so go back to my post again and make sure you understand what you read this time.

I've been seeing the way you keep committing this blunder "air creatures were created from water" sorry that's not what the Bible says.

It is you that has a problem with your own bible not me.

When it's evident that you couldn't decipher my post.

LordReed:
This is just revisionist. The bible clearly separates the 2 but you are now saying it's the Earth that is the source. Why didn't the god say Earth bring forth sea, land and air creatures? Instead it speaks separately to water and to earth.

That's the problem with you people...leaving the main point of discussion and begin to go in circle.

Go back to my post you quoted and see you've deviated from the main point.

LordReed:
The bible clear says it was water that brought forth sea and air creatures while earth brought forth land creatures but you say they are from the same source ergo earth and water are the same according to you.

I can see how you greatly misunderstood my point...

>Sea brought forth DIFFERENT CREATURES according to their kinds making sea creatures to be made from the same source.

Same thing with land and air!

All together including human are all EARTHLY CREATURES.

LordReed:
This is the first time I am hearing that water and earth are the same thing.

And who said so

LordReed:
And what of the sea creatures were they made of earth too?

And I guess sea is not part of the earth

LordReed:
What same source?

You have Bible on your phone, good! Open to Genesis 1 and read it slowly.

Lastly, everything on earth were called EARTHLY creatures, there's a reason for that

Dhumancanvas:
If all things were created independent from each other there is no reason why pretty much all spieces in some way share DNA.

I find this statement disturbing because it actually never represents the view of creationist.

God created everything independently but from the same SOURCE

Yet you guys will be forming scholar when it comes to Bible

If your statement is true, maybe then evolution is just a corrupted script of the Word of God.

Mordecai:
The sole reason PDP couldn't deliver Ndume or Ekweremadu is this: INDISCIPLINE.

I now begin to appreciate the work Oshiomhole is doing, instilling discipline in all APC officeholders. They are carefully towing party lines now while PDP cannot even unite for Ekweremadu.

It's a shame.

Most of you will just sit behind keyboard and be saying something else.

That's politics and nothing more!

Both Ekweremadu and Ndume were planted to make it more election rather than fixing (unopposed) if not you should have asked yourself, why must it be today that Ekweremadu was nominated? Does he look like someone who really vying for a post?

Come to asokoro in Abuja and see how these politicians mingle with themselves but be playing enemies outside.

budaatum:
What did you get?
Be more specific with your question.

I don't know exactly the point you're trying to make with this your statement...

I see the problem. I was told I can't be a Online JW self after showing my certification, and was told I'm "certainly NOT worshiping our own God JEHOVAH. Period! smiley smiley smiley" It is rather odd if the same person says, "leave the judgement in Jesus' hands".

Should one not think that when one is condemning?

Someone explain the essence of this verse to me please.

budaatum:
I see the problem. I was told I can't be a Online JW self after showing my certification, and was told I'm "certainly NOT worshiping our own God JEHOVAH. Period! " It is rather odd if the same person says, "leave the judgement in Jesus' hands".

Should one not think that when one is condemning?

Someone explain the essence of this verse to me please.

Sorry I didn't get you very well

Could you please explain further?

Maximus69:
Why do you people love falsely accusing others?
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't saying 'we're the only true worshipers of God'
Of course there are many Gods and many Lords! 1Corinthians 8:5
You can claim that yours is the one and only true one just as your friend said earlier.
But as regards JEHOVAH our own God, you can't possibly worship him without 100% compliance to the standards and principles agreed upon within us. Matthew 16:19
That is EXACTLY what we're saying, so don't get it twisted Sir!

Frustration of a hypocrite!

You said to him "He can't just calmly present his beliefs without judging the opposite side."

How many times have you CALMLY PRESENTED your belief without judging the opposite side?

Maximus69:
I wonder o! He is always judgmental against whoever has contrary opinion.
Thank God everyone can see his attitude and the spirit he keep displaying. He can't just calmly present his beliefs without judging the opposite side.
Every follower can see that you and JWs aren't on the same page.
So there is no point judging since you can't be a co~debator and at the same time the judge!

TATIME: Well i've been following this thread from page one, and i think you and Maximus have both made enough presentations to help all followers see the differences between the doctrines of JWs courtesy Maximus and Christendom courtesy shadeyinka.
If both of you were allowed to judge based on what you think of each others stand, i'm sure he couldn't have seen you any way better than what you just described.
One thing that i know is what Jesus Himself said "By their fruit, you will know"
Please let's leave the judgement in Jesus' hands, you and i know fully well that "Jesus is the BEST judge!"

See hypocrisy written all over their statements.

When it pleases them they turn themselves to God by judging others and condemn them as fake Jesus' followers but when they were pressed they tell you, you are judgmental against those who have contrary opinion to yours and please let's leave the judgement to the hands of Jesus as Jesus is the BEST judge.

Yet these are the people who see themselves as the only TRUE WORSHIPPERS of God.

I don't know why you guys are just spamming my mention

TATIME:
He lied by rephrasing what the other man said!

Now you called it rephrase but to him is a QUOTE
I don't know when you guys will one day openly accept your error and apologize but always try to be superhuman who can't make mistakes.

(1) I worship with JWs but there their doctrines doesn't don't define my own personal beliefs!
(2) I worship with JWs but i don't believe all their teachings!
Please what's the difference between this these two?

Even you that want to correct and proof Mr ITK still continue the lie
He didn't say "their doctrines didn't define my own personal BELIEFS" but "their doctrines didn't define ME"

You're a Nigerian but does Nigeria constitution define you? Hypocrite!

I don't believe ALL THEIR TEACHINGS isn't even synonymous to THEIR DOCTRINES DON'T DEFINE me not to talk of equating them.

Lawlessness connotes a situation where there is no law binding on those within a community! Each person could form his own standard of right and wrong.
Is that not why all of you are arguing, insulting, abusing and cursing one another due to differences generating from each person's beliefs or analogy?
The only way to deceive your brother is when you say 'we're of same father, but my father's rules differs from your father's rule' is that not a bases for Lawlessness?
Instead of killing your own soul out of hatred for the TRUTH, why not just remain silent?
God is listening to all what everyone is saying regarding HIS righteous decrees, so don't just keep arguing with annoyance. Malachi 3:16
So think before you talk! James :19

Do you all do these things hypocrite

shadeyinka:
Please ask him to show you where I said that highlighted in RED!
He is a liar like his father.

I already knew he's lying that's why I didn't give that part much attention.

Maximus69:
You've missed the point again!

And you get it correct, right

Listen carefully Sir, even if you have a grudging mindset against our organization.

Showing you truth from the scripture now equates to having grudges with your organization.

Aren't you people claim nothing you do outside the scripture

But please listen to know who we are and what we stand for.
¤Whoever feels the need for ONE single channel of divine guidance is already a Jehovah's Witness at heart. So even if he is presently a Buddhist, Hindu, Judaist, Muslim, Aborigine or any of your so called Denominations, our Presentations for ONE single channel of divine guidance will appeal to him and he will join us without delay! John 6:44 compared to verse 66-69

My point is where in the scripture was it boldly written that ONE SINGLE CHANNEL

¤Whoever feels NO need for a single channel of divine guidance will never see anything appealing to him/her in JWs! So even if he/she accidentally finds himself in our midst, his/her heart condition for choosing right and wrong independently will NOT allow such a person to remain in our GROUP! 1John 2:19
That is why Jesus' illustration says there is a 'GREAT GULF' fixed in between our camp and your camp, you will never feel COMFORTABLE crossing to our side neither will any from our side feel COMFORTABLE crossing to your side! Luke 16:26
So instead of arguing with JWs, just watch out for people who likes to worship in the midst of others but don't care for any kind of bond thereafter, those are yours!

So your previous lie that all members of watchtower are all core members who can't go against watchtower is no more substantial.

Compare this your statement with the one above to see how hypocritical you are:
"That is NOT the case with Jehovah's Witnesses, if you're one of us you're a member to the core!
You will never see a person claiming to be a JW yet telling you i believe in INTERFAITH, because we're 100% sure that our organization is the ONLY true one!"

I've been telling you guys to show us where it was written in the scripture that ONE GROUP is it all...yet you keep rehearsing the song of your GB

But whenever you finds someone who love to worship with people having strong bond with their fellow worshipers, just please just help us tell him/her 'go and join Jehovah's Witnesses'. They are our kind!

So can you start telling those unlikes mind within your congregation to go and join their likes first?

God bless you!

And you too