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Maximus69:
Mr IDIOT oh sorry!
I almost forgot your name due to your incessant use of that adjective 'Idiot' so apology please!
I don't need your input on TRINITY because i too attended churches for over three decades and i have heard a so many contradicting doctrines from Trinitarians themselves. So your input will only serve as an addition to those long time spread gibberish!

You don't need my input yet you want us to discuss Trinity, your stupidity is like ZEE world very extraordinary everyday.

Maximus69:
Hmmm,
Sorry Sir, the TRUTH can be really really really better!
Meanwhile i only helped you to enlighten Jessicah who can't grasp the concept of your TRINITY God. So instead of getting annoyed, why not correct me if there's a misconception in my post regarding your TRINITY God!
After all you've been criticising the believes of JWs saying they should defend their doctrines, So you can't defend your own now. What a pity, O ma seo!

Idiot, me getting annoyed because of who, you

See the way you're using style to deviate from the subject matter. SMH

If you want my input about Trinity, I'll advice you create another thread and invite me.

Jessicha:
What's the issue ? Just admit u wrong and move on

Which issue?
Admit I'm wrong and move on....waooo brilliant JWs

AZeD1:
EASTER WORSHIPPERS: People who are at a church service on Easter Sunday.

Just see the way you're disgracing your intellect online, well only if you have one sha.

Church service...so who are the people known to be holding CHURCH SERVICE?

Muslim
Hinduism
Judaism
Sango worshipper

There are lots of Christian denominations that don't celebrate EASTER.

This is not the point here!

hardeytarhyour:
They both Said EASTER WORSHIPER who are celebrating Eastern Are They Not include Christians ,, Secondly, They can't mention Christian because it is not only Christian that do celebrate Easter, Juddhist Also Celebrate it

They way you people lack simple comprehension is very alarming.

The bombs occurred in an Hotel and CHURCH...and it's very clear from Obama and Hillary Clinton messages that they distinguished these two places.

Obama used....."TOURISTS and EASTER WORSHIPPERS"
Hillary Clinton used....."TRAVELLERS and EASTER WORSHIPPERS"

Does the bomb occur where the Juddihst gathered?

AZeD1:
I have seen Buhari in a church, is he a Christian?
I have seen Fashola in a church, is he a Christian?
I have seen Tinubu in a church, is he a Christian?

I can then ask you, are they EASTER WORSHIPPERS too?

There are lots of churches in the west who hire instrumentalist on Sundays(they are not Christians).

But they are present on a Christian gathering....why does common sense so far from you?

On special days(Christmas, New year, Easter) lots of non Christians attend church either by way of following families or in Nigeria for the goodies that would follow after the service.

But where does this people find? The answer is a Christian gathering!

Common sense should tell you that not every body in a church is a Christian.

But your own common sense tells you that everyone in the church whether they are true Christian or not are now "EASTER WORSHIPPERS"

If common sense didn't fail you, Obama and Hillary Clinton used the word "WORSHIPPERS"

Do you agree with them that all the people in that church are all EASTER WORSHIPPERS?

Maximus69:
Don't mind Jessicha, she is yet to grasp the concept of the holy TRINITY!

Baby JWs go and join the devoted one and stop being useless online...

Na your own mouth talk am say...devoted JWs don't argue online, yet you and your brothers are everywhere on NL

AZeD1:
People were also bombed in hotels or those people don't count?

I don't know why some of you will just be arguing for argument sake...

It's clear that Obama and Hillary Clinton mentioned two different group on their twitters

Obama said....."Tourists and EASTER WORSHIPPERS"
Clinton said...."Travellers and EASTER WORSHIPPERS"

And if you noticed what people pointed out is calling those affected inside the church EASTER WORSHIPPERS and not Christians.

Jessicha:
U are not making any sense sir.

Typical JWs...
Hypocrisy will not kill you one day...
Madam sense I hear you

I remember when you first join this thread, you sound so liberal, you even cautioned your fellow JWs and advice people not to be too emotional.

But here you are today typical JWs that's why Jws and hypocrite are like 5&6, so you can easily revert back to your vomit or what you preach to people not to do.

Maximus69:
Yes nah!
Why e no go pain me?
When a useless,hopeless nonentity is claiming to be Master over the faith of those who wouldn't even agree with him.

So you too can go emotional like other yet you agree you know Jesus more than anyone else.

Of course any right thinking person will get annoyed at such idiotic miscreant!

So your brothers who you're cautioning then they are not right thinking person. Bravo!

Even Jesus only claims to be master over the faith of his own followers NOT those who never accepted his interpretation of the scriptures!

So Jesus isn't a master over liars, deceivers, hypocrites and false teachers?

So i'm pained that a creature supposedly meant to be in the likeness of God could assume he is Master over the faith of fellow creatures like himself yet he admitted he is not the Christ but one out of billions of Bible readers meditating on the practical applications of the Scriptures!

Show me where I said I'm a master over Another person FAITH?

Undoubtedly you're unquestionably stupid and it's really annoying Sir!

Now, you're going emotional, will you apologize to me as you did with @acholadey

Hypocrite pretending to be liberal, so you can go into a furious range of anger when someone's view doesn't align with your.

Maximus69:
You can only drop or spew your own gibberish just like any other person.

And this "ANY OTHER PERSON" includes JWs....very nice!

But thinking you're a MASTER

e pain am

Well keep dreaming, there is no crime in self inflicted madness!

So it hits you real hard like this....

TATIME:
Making defence before who?

Before your master

Don't think anyone cares about what you think about us,

Idiotic, you don't care yet you and your brothers keep spamming my mention up and down.

so far we're still entering houses and making disciples daily for our Lord oh sorry GB.

That's your Own Cup of tea

And den no born you well to disturb our ministry because there is FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP

So it pains you reach this level...

So TATIME is just a nonentity like his GB

TATIME:
Hen nah!
Jehovah's organization also interprets the scriptures to suit our own thoughts. So the choice is yours whether to join us or join any other that SUIT your own thoughts as well or better still start your own group.

ok

But coming on social media to set standards for people based on your own interpretation of the scriptures is Fa ~ Fa ~ Fa ~ Foul!

Can you show me where I set a standard for people based on my interpretation on this thread or any

It's evident that you people always make claim without a proof....

Now, is that how a suppose born again Christian's life should be?

Just drop your own comment and waka pass, anybody can claim he/she knows all so why must people agree with your idea?

Then must you do the same?

TATIME you're a hopeless, idiotic miscreant Sir, your logic doesn't count!

Janosky:
" Anything Emusan says is of no relevance now"
I concur.
His twisting and taking your post out of context amounts to nought nought. come and beat me .

The cry of a sore loser...when they couldn't defend their lies anymore.

TATIME:
Your point doesn't count Sir, the scripture has spoken and people from divers religious groups have interpreted it to suit their own thoughts.

Waoooo very wonderful, so JWs also interpreted the scripture to suit their own thoughts...

I know out of foolishness you will try to remove your organization now from "DIVERS RELIGIOUS GROUPS"

midolian:
You be God P.A? What do you have to say about these verses in almost all versions of Bible?

Corinthians fall on you!

After you rush to post and concluded everything yourself on that thread, you came to open another! If what you posted on that thread is true, then why the need for this one

This one should have buttressed your first point, yet you called yourself a Christian!

Anyway, concerning the verse you quoted 1 Corinthian 14:34. Did you notice the last part of Apostle Paul's statement which says "...as also SAITH THE LAW"

We can then ask, which law did Paul refer to here? Everyone knows that this will be Moses's Law.

Yet Apostle said we are no longer under the law.

Basically, what the blessed apostle meant here must have been misconstrue by you.

Firstly, Paul was addressing the gifts of the Holy Spirit and how these gifts should be used without confusion or disorderliness in the church.

Secondly, God has said in Joel that in the last day He will pour out His SPIRIT upon ALL FLESH and they will PROPHESY...how will the women prophecy without speaking in the church?

Thirdly, Apostle Paul himself confirmed that women do prophecy in the church in 1 Cor 11:5

Lastly, I'll round this up with Adam Clarke's quote "From this it is evident that it was the DISORDERLY and DISOBEDIENT that the Apostle had in view, and not any of those on whom God had poured out His Spirit"

Shalom!

Maximus69:
Let him go and correct their misconceptions before coming to tell me that i shouldn't claim born again in the Kingdom Hall.

Now show me where I said you shouldn't claim born again in the kingdom hall...if you can't show me! Be silent forever...

I asked you question which you couldn't even answer

As far as i know, i am a born again Christian and the only place to worship the same God with me is inside the Kingdom Hall!

If you're a born again Christian, do you agree that no born again Christian will ever replace Christ with anything else in the scripture?

This is the question none of you have ever provided simple answer to since I've been asking.

TATIME:
I only wonder what exactly is your point here, as you are saying one shouldn't claim to be born again because of what you're quoting from the Bible, when there are millions of complicating ideas on these issue of born again!
And you yourself said it's not compulsory they must come under one umbrella yet you're expecting them to agree on the same interpretation of Bible!

Idiot, did your own organization not claiming to be inspired by Holy Spirit

You're forming as if claiming to be inspired by Holy Spirit only peculiar with some denominations YET having conflict doctrines. When your own organization was guilty of it!

My point which you've been bitten about the bush is that...

1. If you claim to be born again Christian...fine that's your own cross
2. Born again Christian will never replace Christ with anything else in the scripture....if you do it simply means you're not a born again...am I lying
3. Allow Scripture to speak for itself...

TATIME:
Don't mind Jessicha, she is one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I'm with you jare, Jesus has billions of isolated individuals each claiming Christian,they can worship anywhere they're please but they shouldn't say something that's contrary to what the Bible teaches, they should all speak in agreement and each should criticize the other if some ideas aren't corresponding wherever or whenever they meet, yet there is no compulsion belonging to ONE particular unique VISIBLE congregation!
The holy ghost is constantly speaking through you with 100% accuracy, more grease to your elbow Sir!

And Jws didn't claim Holy Spirit speak through them too, right Mr hypocrite?

I know you have lost your voice here, that's why you turn yourself to a kid.

Janosky:
Brain scrubbed Pharisee ,your last statement is proof you twisted Maximus69 reference to John 16:33, where he laid emphasis on tribulations that believers face in the world(,and pointed to the love and refreshing fellowship of believers in heb10:24-25) .
But you twisted it and claimed "you're trying to replace Christ with kingdom hall".

You're just fighting someone's battle that doesn't concern you, you hypocrite!

I will ask, were you the one who supposed to accuse me of twisting another person post when the person and I perfectly know the angle we're both arguing from Mr brainwashed JWs!

Do you even have brain to comprehend my post?

Janosky:
You're twisting his post ,Mr lying Pharisee and hypocrite, you've commented on many posts on many occasions on NL with out your opinion ( s) being solicited .
You have no right to dictate which thread or posts i should comment on.

Brainwashed person...that's not where I started quoting him. so go back again to see how you jumped in without understanding the subject matter.

I didn't say you shouldn't quote or comment but do it when you understand the subject matter.

Lastly, if I twisted his statement, he would've pointed that out before we gone far but we both know the angle we're speaking from, only for you to jump from nowhere and started foaming mouth.

Jessicha:
What's the issue pls ? Ion think he is wrong to apply it to congregation , 1Cor 12:27 " Now you are Christ's body, and each of you individually Is a member " is the congregation not in Christ as seen here ?

But you see something wrong if we apply the prerogative of Jehovah to Jesus, hypocrite!

TATIME:
You can't stipulate what a born again Christian must do, it's only God that can do that NOT you! As long as he claims to be a born again Christian.
So let God judge that Sir!

I didn't stipulate but scriptural truth, so the point still remains, born again Christian will never replace Christ with anything else, do you agree?

And you and your organization have been judging others, so are you now God?

TATIME:
He said he is born again!
Are you now the one judging who is and who is not a born again?

A born again Christian will never replace Christ with anything else...do you agree?

Janosky:
You wey born again dey twist his post you you don't understand the points Maximus69 has made.

And the person I twisted his post didn't know I did so but it has to be you to discover this

** True Christians would have tribulations in the world (John 16:33) but fellowship with his JW brothers is different & refreshing he cites Hebrew 10:24-25 which says fellowship with his JW brothers is "to incite to love and fine works" ..encouraging one another" .
(Where he learns practical ways to copy Christ like examples of love for God and fellow man(Luke 10:27) .

Acts2:41-46 says Christians had joyful fellowship with one another .

Jesus' command at John 10:34-35 called for close association b/w believers and meeting together is a great opportunity for JWs to fellowship together (bible study prayers and singing kingdom Melodies to praise Jehovah - (Eph5:15-20. 6:11-18) to practice love and fine works together.
Unity is strength "where two or three(& hundreds etc) are gathered in my name" .Matt18:20.
Some thing that Trinity worshipping Pharisees can never understand nor support.
Non denominational nonsense!

Brainwashed person!
Go back to where I quoted him to know you just jump into what doesn't concern you.

Maximus69:
Well, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not.
As a born again child of God,i drank tea with the holy spirit in my bedroom this morning and HE told me to stick to the interpretation of JWs!

Then it means you're not a born again Christian because Holy Spirit can never instruct anyone to replace Christ with anything, as He shall not speak of His own!

Lastly, John 16:33 is all about Christ and not congregation.

Maximus69:
Must interpretations of the spirit in me be the same as yours?

Yes! Since the spirit is one!

My friend, i'm a born again Christian and since all the different religions claiming Christians and born again are having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, why must mine and yours correlates?

If you're born again, then a born again Christian won't replace Christ with Kingdom Hall

That's how you will know the spirit in you.

If God is not a author of confusion then why are there divers teachings all in the name of born again, yet you are only opposed to JWs?

Are you saying God is the author of confusion?

I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm not opposing JWs but anyone who twisted and misinterpreted the scripture.

Well 'don't judge' is what Jesus said!

But you and your organization judge by saying others are not a Christian.

So my interpretation can totally contradict yours, NO problem as long as i am also a born again!

Yes! But no born again Christian will ever replace Christ with anything else.

Let scripture speaks for itself.

Always off points

Maximus69:
What about if i say 'i'm already a born again Christian'?

Then live as a born again Christian.

So what the spirit tells me about being a Christian is in my mind and according to your analogy it's not compulsory it must be the same with yours.

How does my analogy and your statement correlate?

I believe in the interpretation of the spirit in me just as you too are convinced of the spirit in you.

God is not the author of confusion as the spirit is one.

The content of John 6:33 which you've deviated from is that, Jesus Christ said "IN HIM..." not in the congregation.

A born again Christian will never replace Christ with anything or say what scripture didn't say.

And this doesn't mean you should start calling JWs to come and verify what i say since you said it shouldn't be a group thing!

How does this explain the fact that you replaced Jesus Christ in John 6:33 with Kingdom Hall?

This is my very key point.

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Maximus69:
So if you're truthfully convinced of what you're saying, then accept me as a Christian who need not associate with you or agree with your thinking.

Being a Christian doesn't mean associate with me or agree with my thinking. Go back to read your Bible on who is a Christian.

After all what you none denominationals believe is that everyone can practice his or her own Christianity independently of what any group teaches.

Wrong! You get born again first, then with the help of The Holy Spirit you can discern the spirit of truth from the spirit of lies.

I believe in group just like most people going to churches for worship, and if you're not opposed to them you need not oppose me for choosing to worship with my own fellow believers at the kingdom halls!

I didn't oppose you for fellowship with whosoever you think is a believer, my reason of quoting you is the wrong interpretation you gave to John 16:33

By trying to replace Jesus Christ with Kingdom Hall

Maximus69:
You only need patience and humility to understand what Jesus said!

And it takes brainwashing and lack of knowledge to accept twisting the scripture to your taste.

In Jesus simply means 'in the midst of other faithful Christians' Matthew 18:20 Because that is the only place where you can be COMFORTED and ENCOURAGE to keep your faith[Hebrew 10:24,25] outside you will always find none believers who will be laughing at you for what you are keeping that's of no value to them 'FAITH' Ephesians 2:2,5:6

Shut the Bleep up, Mr brainwashed JWs...

Jesus' statement pointed people to have absolute confident in Him...not this your hogwash talk...

So if there is no place where you can go to be comforted with the pure word of truth as in the midst of fellow believers, surely you're not a Christian! 2Corinthians 13:11

Still trying to replace Christ with Kingdom Hall...

Continue....

But the truth is, Jesus said "IN HIM..." which corroborate with "TRIBULATION" that is, when people are facing difficulty, persecution, trouble or challenge! as He(Jesus) has "OVERCOME THE WORLD"

So you believe, people pretending to be happy in your Hall means they find comfort and encouragement!

Maximus69:
That's the direct opposite of what Jesus said!
At John 16:33 Jesus said 'in the world you will have tribulation' definitely Christians can never find happiness in the midst of unbelievers but within fellow believers there is comfort! Hebrew 10:24,25 Romans 15:4
Certainly if you're truly a Christian you can't find bliss in the midst of those under Satan's control! 2Corinthians 4:3,4: 1John 2:15-17,5:19
So if you find happiness everywhere you go,that means you're also part of the world because they will be fond of you as their own! John 15:19,17:14-16
Sir there is great blunder in your reasoning!

Always misquoting the scripture

So do you find happiness in your working place which is not owned by JWs?

Do you find happiness in your school not owned by JWs?

Jesus statement was "In the world you will have tribulation IN ME YOU SHALL HAVE PEACE but be of a good cheer I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD"

Jesus said IN HIM not AMONG BELIEVERS....

Can you see how you're trying to replace Christ with Kingdom Hall now