₦airaland Forum

michoim:
With your lies everywhere, is what you want to use to become president?

So you mean President Buhari didn't lie before he became the President?

ifenes:
Okay who were the “ sons of gods” ?

Before you can talk about sons their must be God, so who is God? Does He has a son(s)? That would be the right first question.

ifenes:
“The Gods” not the edited version that says God. The Anunaki race who visited earth after it had been left desolate as a result of war. Besides how did they make man in their image ? Do you know how it was done ? Or do you just follow what the preacher says ?

Are you with them when the Anunaki race came to earth?

petra1:
I’ve seen many articles on the flat earth which makes some sense but the idea of giving the straight horizon flat of flat water surface etc are not convincing enough . The surface of a basket ball will still look flat in the eye of a small microorganism. So if the earth is spherical it will still look flat and the horizon will look straight because of its vastness

Not that I'm supporting flat earth but @bold statement of yours fails out of it.

There is a distance a structure at horizon supposed to vanish from eyes if earth is spherical.

So if kms of rail or road can be constructed without any curve on a globe earth then something is suspicious.

BisiLIFE:
What shape is the earth and why do you think this? If you are religious - does your holy text make any claims on the shape of the earth or earth’s cosmology?

Pls
No abuse��
Just discussion

Me?
I say the earth is FLAT��
I don’t believe we live
On a spinning balll
Spinning on its axis at 1000mph at the equator
And hurtling through space at hundreds of hours ads of miles per hour��

Body of water is ALWAYS level on the surface! Always.
The horizon ALWAYS rises to eye level no matter how high you go.
We can’t detect ANY motion. None. Yet in Naija “scientists” claim we are spinning at 1000mph���
How do we travel east at 600mph for plane (flying Naija to Asia) when, according to “science” we are spinning in that direction faster than we can fly in jumbo jet?

How does water stay ON THE SURFACE of any 3D shape - by virtue of spinning?
Gravity�
Na magik!!!
How does the atmosphere sit next to the vacuum of space and not rush into the vacuum?
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Can we replicate that with an expt? Or are we just going to believe NASA?

Last point abt NASA...
Apparently they sent man to moon (lie lie) 6 times in the 1960s and early 70s. Yet NOW, NASA claims they are UNABLE to travel past “Low earth orbit” which is only hundreds of miles away (the moon is alledgedly 240,000 miles away!!! They managed it back then but not now���?). NASA tok say that they LOST and DESTROYED that technology and can’t create it again.
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Oboy
Which technology was BETTER in the 1970s compared to today?
Pls
Just name 1.

Just 1!!!

Ok..consider the DAYTIME moon. Is it a shadow of the earth we see or the sky BEHIND the moon or THROUGH the moon? Look at EVERY flag that has a moon on it. The moon - crescent moon - ALWAYS has the background colour through the moon.

Which solid opaque object acts like the DAYTIME moon in the sky? I think the moon is a light source - we KNOW that the sun is OPPOSITE the direction of the shadow. Always. But there are times during the day when we see the moon and sun BOTH in the sky and the “shadow” is in the wrong place IF it is caused by the sun�

#ResearchFlatEarth #TheEarthIsFlat

What does your pastor or imam teach?

What does the Bible or Qu’ran teach?

Again PLEASE
no abuse - let us just discuss as mature ppl

I'm a Bible believer and I'm not against nor support Spherical or Flat weather.

But one thing my instinct tells me is that Gravity is a hoax.

When Eric asked a flat earther "why they don't argue about Mars spherical"? and the flat earther replied "we know Mars is spherical" then I know Mars cant be spherical and earth flat.

About religious Books, well as a Christian many people have used some Bible passages to throw their support for a globe earth while some passages can also be used to support flat earth but the truth is, the shape of the earth has nothing to do with the plan of God establishing it to be inhabited for living things and His plan of salvation.

So thats why nothing concerns some Pastors or Imam about shape of earth.

emmykey0128:
Baba are you related to lie momahamed? Wetin dey automatic wey person wey dey drive manual no go fit drive am I beg tell me, shey na P, d and R he no go sabi ni? I learnt driving with Manuel and automatically
I drive automatic transmission without wahala

Not about what's in automatic but how comfortable the person is with the car.

I have a friend who can drive any sort of manual car but if you ask him to drive automatic, he will tell you he can't drive it.

lonelydora:
Wrong assumption. I know quite few people who can drive manual but can't drive automatic

I totally agree with you

Before I thought it's impossible until my friend proof me wrong.

royalamour:
Wow! Kicking humans out of job.
No housing allowance, health insurance,
leave bonuses and all.

Why won't machines take over.

But this is scary, considering the apocalypse thing.

That's why you have to tap into this technology early by investing in them. PM me if you want to know more!

hopefulLandlord:
My instinct is unneeded here. what you're saying is that certain Christians pushed back against slavery but that has nothing to do with the assertion that Bible supported slavery

If you claimed Bible supported slavery and the carrier of Bible are the most people who fought against slavery. Then, your instinct ended somewhere!

hopefulLandlord:
are you agreeing or disagreeing with what I said?

Let your instinct judge my post

hopefulLandlord:
Bible is not against slavery, it infact encourages it

That's why Atheists are the one who fought against slavery when the people who are holding Bible were busy keeping slaves.

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SakuraSimiola:
DO YOU THINK CHRISTIANITY HAD CRUSHED OUR NATIVE CULTURES?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3oBeKCrysw

I don't know why people still confusing Christianity with many things.

Jesus Christ didn't come to put us into more bondage of life rather abolishing idolatry by pointing us to know the Creator, Only Living God and to do what He like.

So if your culture supports idol worshipping, injustice, hatred, killing, disrespectful malice e.t.c that's where Christianity is against your culture.

If your culture supports love, charity, respect, justice, forgiveness e.t.c it's in line with Christianity.

tintingz:
Odin, Olorun, Brahma, Zeus, Unkulunkulu etc.

And you didn't say gods before but God the Creator!

Answer the question I asked, I'm a good kind person, yes I'm very certain I'm a good person everyone around me knows I'm a good person, am I still a sinner?

I'm a naturally gifted designer I can draw anything and everyone knows this, yes I'm very certain I'm a great designer but does that make me an Architect?

tintingz:
So what makes you I'm talking about the bible God?

Which God are you expecting proof from before?

I'm a good kind person, am i still a sinner?

And who is the teacher that marks your result "good-kind person"?

horsepower101:
Wait till the value of oil drops then Nigerians will understand what real poverty is. It is then we will be able to separate the men from the boys.

And what will lead to that is all these new inventions like electric car. Nigerians don't know anything now!

tintingz:
Why must it be rapture day?

Because that's the day He promised those who doubted Him to see the reality of His existence.

And what's wrong following God to heaven(if there's one)?

Nothing wrong in fact that's His greatest joy but just that He hates sin, so no sinner will follow Him.

awesomeJ:
And when you attempt to describe other people's experience that you haven't had, what's that called?

This is the problem with most Atheists, if you share your experience with them, it's either they term you hallucinating or attached it to nature can do it.

That's why I respect FOLYCAZEY I don't know maybe I spell it correctly.

When I join NL I met him as an Atheist but as an open-minded person he was, he took it upon himself to search for evidence about spirituality and as he came back, he became another person though he didn't believe in the God of any religion but he affirms that spirituality does exist.

tintingz:
Then God should appear from the sky for the whole world to witness him, is that so hard for God or is God shy?

The day He will appear that day is rapture are you ready to follow Him back to heaven?

hopefulLandlord:
A god that supposedly created me and wants to provide an evidence for me that it exists would know how to do that without my confusing it for another phenomenon or entity.

So in your own view, how do you want God to proof Himself to you? I take it as, the evidence must beyond any logical assumption.

it would be totally independent of me as this god must know me far better than myself and with this knowledge knows what would convince me even if I don't know

Since you have power 'to reason' you can still confuse God's evidence with natural occurrences.

Let me give an eyes witness example:

In 1995, God acted miraculously in my hometown Okeagbe Akoko (the hometown of Late Rufus Giwa named after Owo Poly), Akoko North-west LGA, Ondo State. There was a particular highway from my hometown to Oyin Akoko (former Nigeria IG police hometown 'Ehindero'). On that highway, like 2years after construction strange thing starts happening like unusual accident. I could remember the incident of that hardworking popular Igbo guy selling electronics, he died along that road when their car had accident(note there was no collision or bursting of tire the car just caught fire) and burnt to ashes. It was only him that could be recognized in that incident simply because he was sitting beside the door and his head fell of from window, so it was only his head that was buried.

But the most astonished part is, all accident that do happened on that road, always occurred at a particular spot.

I could remember vividly, there were many prophecies by various churches then and all these prophecies pointed to one thing, "there is one stone that has be bewitched in that area, this stone is the one causing the calamity" surprisingly, those prophecies also include a message that pray and God will intervene.
Many revival programs were held by different churches 3,5,7,21days my church then C&S did 7days.

To cut the long story short, the day God will fight for His people, It was like a dream. That faithful day, it seems it will rain heavily. as usual everybody prepared for heavy rain before you know it, it started to rain. Surprisingly, it's not up to 10mins the rain started, a very powerful atomic thunder struck. Nobody in my hometown that doesn't feel the sound, vibration and movement of the thunder. I could remember this statement from my grandma then "Ibun ti dun, baba mi ti daun" (meaning the gun has sounded, my Father has answered). As an elderly woman I'm very sure she understood that the thunder is a MESSENGER, even though she didn't no the excert location.

And the rain people thought will last for an hour just fall like 20-30mins and stopped. In less than 30mins, there was a shocking news all over the village. Guess what, along that road excertlly where the accident usually occurred, a massive rock (I don't know the actual size since no-one has measured it but it's massive), was shattered into pieces as if a dynamite was used to blast it.

Well if Atheists were to give their view that day, they may say maybe unknown person planted a dynamite there but as God always give an indisputable evidence of His work, the path the thunder followed before hitting the rock will be like 1-2km and to everybody surprises, the thunder cleared everything along that path be it stone, grass and tree (just as if a bulldozer working on a virgin land for road construction). The most miraculous part of it was that since that day till I left my hometown a single accident never occurred on that road not to talk of that same spot (I left 2003, even till now I've never heard of any fatal accident on that road).

I know if you're to be in my hometown then, is either you attribute it to natural occurrences and blame people of being too religious or you acknowledge the wonderous works of the creator.

But one thing is certain, God's evidence of His existence that goes beyond logical reasoning is all around us.

DeSepiero:
"If God should give atheists evidence..." that's gonna be a whole new argument because the nature of god comes into the question. I'm always indifferent in this case.

If God exists and is all powerful, and wants everyone to believe in it, will that be impossible?
Your query questions the nature of God.

My question is very simple, if God should provide you with an evidence, isn't there going to be a procedure so that you'll know whether it's God and not Nature?

DeSepiero:
If God wants an atheist to believe in God, God will provide evidence and convince the atheist.

Now it boils down to this. If God should give Atheists an evidence, shouldn't there be a way/method/procedure the evidence will come through so that the atheists will know for sure.

If the theist wants an atheist to believe in God, the theist will provide evidence and convince the atheist.

And they have been doing that.

DeSepiero:
It's simple - the lack of evidence for God dismisses the necessity to acknowledge that exists.

Then tell me. Who are you expecting this/these evidence(s) from, God Himself or Theist?

Seun:
You're right. When an atheist says "there is no X", where X could be God, Satan, or Angel Gabriel, it's shorthand for "there is probably no X" or "there is no credible evidence that X exists". Some versions of God definitely don't exist, e.g. the all-loving, all-powerful God who allows children to be abducted, tortured, abused and brutally murdered, allows babies to have cancer, and will punish most people infinitely for finite crimes.

So how do you know those versions don't exist? Just because you think so or decided not to know..

salvation101:
Nairaland scientists would not believe this. They would rather believe the voice in their head

You mean those Google scientists

GloryIsaac:
#PatientlyWaitingFor2019.

And what will you do in 2019?