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SakuraSimiola:
DO YOU THINK CHRISTIANITY HAD CRUSHED OUR NATIVE CULTURES?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3oBeKCrysw

I don't know why people still confusing Christianity with many things.

Jesus Christ didn't come to put us into more bondage of life rather abolishing idolatry by pointing us to know the Creator, Only Living God and to do what He like.

So if your culture supports idol worshipping, injustice, hatred, killing, disrespectful malice e.t.c that's where Christianity is against your culture.

If your culture supports love, charity, respect, justice, forgiveness e.t.c it's in line with Christianity.

tintingz:
Odin, Olorun, Brahma, Zeus, Unkulunkulu etc.

And you didn't say gods before but God the Creator!

Answer the question I asked, I'm a good kind person, yes I'm very certain I'm a good person everyone around me knows I'm a good person, am I still a sinner?

I'm a naturally gifted designer I can draw anything and everyone knows this, yes I'm very certain I'm a great designer but does that make me an Architect?

tintingz:
So what makes you I'm talking about the bible God?

Which God are you expecting proof from before?

I'm a good kind person, am i still a sinner?

And who is the teacher that marks your result "good-kind person"?

horsepower101:
Wait till the value of oil drops then Nigerians will understand what real poverty is. It is then we will be able to separate the men from the boys.

And what will lead to that is all these new inventions like electric car. Nigerians don't know anything now!

tintingz:
Why must it be rapture day?

Because that's the day He promised those who doubted Him to see the reality of His existence.

And what's wrong following God to heaven(if there's one)?

Nothing wrong in fact that's His greatest joy but just that He hates sin, so no sinner will follow Him.

awesomeJ:
And when you attempt to describe other people's experience that you haven't had, what's that called?

This is the problem with most Atheists, if you share your experience with them, it's either they term you hallucinating or attached it to nature can do it.

That's why I respect FOLYCAZEY I don't know maybe I spell it correctly.

When I join NL I met him as an Atheist but as an open-minded person he was, he took it upon himself to search for evidence about spirituality and as he came back, he became another person though he didn't believe in the God of any religion but he affirms that spirituality does exist.

tintingz:
Then God should appear from the sky for the whole world to witness him, is that so hard for God or is God shy?

The day He will appear that day is rapture are you ready to follow Him back to heaven?

hopefulLandlord:
A god that supposedly created me and wants to provide an evidence for me that it exists would know how to do that without my confusing it for another phenomenon or entity.

So in your own view, how do you want God to proof Himself to you? I take it as, the evidence must beyond any logical assumption.

it would be totally independent of me as this god must know me far better than myself and with this knowledge knows what would convince me even if I don't know

Since you have power 'to reason' you can still confuse God's evidence with natural occurrences.

Let me give an eyes witness example:

In 1995, God acted miraculously in my hometown Okeagbe Akoko (the hometown of Late Rufus Giwa named after Owo Poly), Akoko North-west LGA, Ondo State. There was a particular highway from my hometown to Oyin Akoko (former Nigeria IG police hometown 'Ehindero'). On that highway, like 2years after construction strange thing starts happening like unusual accident. I could remember the incident of that hardworking popular Igbo guy selling electronics, he died along that road when their car had accident(note there was no collision or bursting of tire the car just caught fire) and burnt to ashes. It was only him that could be recognized in that incident simply because he was sitting beside the door and his head fell of from window, so it was only his head that was buried.

But the most astonished part is, all accident that do happened on that road, always occurred at a particular spot.

I could remember vividly, there were many prophecies by various churches then and all these prophecies pointed to one thing, "there is one stone that has be bewitched in that area, this stone is the one causing the calamity" surprisingly, those prophecies also include a message that pray and God will intervene.
Many revival programs were held by different churches 3,5,7,21days my church then C&S did 7days.

To cut the long story short, the day God will fight for His people, It was like a dream. That faithful day, it seems it will rain heavily. as usual everybody prepared for heavy rain before you know it, it started to rain. Surprisingly, it's not up to 10mins the rain started, a very powerful atomic thunder struck. Nobody in my hometown that doesn't feel the sound, vibration and movement of the thunder. I could remember this statement from my grandma then "Ibun ti dun, baba mi ti daun" (meaning the gun has sounded, my Father has answered). As an elderly woman I'm very sure she understood that the thunder is a MESSENGER, even though she didn't no the excert location.

And the rain people thought will last for an hour just fall like 20-30mins and stopped. In less than 30mins, there was a shocking news all over the village. Guess what, along that road excertlly where the accident usually occurred, a massive rock (I don't know the actual size since no-one has measured it but it's massive), was shattered into pieces as if a dynamite was used to blast it.

Well if Atheists were to give their view that day, they may say maybe unknown person planted a dynamite there but as God always give an indisputable evidence of His work, the path the thunder followed before hitting the rock will be like 1-2km and to everybody surprises, the thunder cleared everything along that path be it stone, grass and tree (just as if a bulldozer working on a virgin land for road construction). The most miraculous part of it was that since that day till I left my hometown a single accident never occurred on that road not to talk of that same spot (I left 2003, even till now I've never heard of any fatal accident on that road).

I know if you're to be in my hometown then, is either you attribute it to natural occurrences and blame people of being too religious or you acknowledge the wonderous works of the creator.

But one thing is certain, God's evidence of His existence that goes beyond logical reasoning is all around us.

DeSepiero:
"If God should give atheists evidence..." that's gonna be a whole new argument because the nature of god comes into the question. I'm always indifferent in this case.

If God exists and is all powerful, and wants everyone to believe in it, will that be impossible?
Your query questions the nature of God.

My question is very simple, if God should provide you with an evidence, isn't there going to be a procedure so that you'll know whether it's God and not Nature?

DeSepiero:
If God wants an atheist to believe in God, God will provide evidence and convince the atheist.

Now it boils down to this. If God should give Atheists an evidence, shouldn't there be a way/method/procedure the evidence will come through so that the atheists will know for sure.

If the theist wants an atheist to believe in God, the theist will provide evidence and convince the atheist.

And they have been doing that.

DeSepiero:
It's simple - the lack of evidence for God dismisses the necessity to acknowledge that exists.

Then tell me. Who are you expecting this/these evidence(s) from, God Himself or Theist?

Seun:
You're right. When an atheist says "there is no X", where X could be God, Satan, or Angel Gabriel, it's shorthand for "there is probably no X" or "there is no credible evidence that X exists". Some versions of God definitely don't exist, e.g. the all-loving, all-powerful God who allows children to be abducted, tortured, abused and brutally murdered, allows babies to have cancer, and will punish most people infinitely for finite crimes.

So how do you know those versions don't exist? Just because you think so or decided not to know..

salvation101:
Nairaland scientists would not believe this. They would rather believe the voice in their head

You mean those Google scientists

GloryIsaac:
#PatientlyWaitingFor2019.

And what will you do in 2019?

Abdulgaffar22:
The soul who sins is the one who will die. The
son will not share the guilt of the father, nor
will the father share the guilt of the son. The
righteousness of the righteous man will be
credited to him, and the wickedness of the
wicked will be charged against him.
"But if a wicked man turns away from all the
sins he has committed and keeps all my
decrees and does what is just and right, he will
surely live; he will not die.
None of the offenses he has committed will be
remembered against him. Because of the
righteous things he has done, he will live( Ezekiel 18:20-22)

But when your Isa sinned against the Jews and they want to kill him, Allah deceived them by allowing an innocent soul to be killed in place of your Isa.

can't you see the contradiction?

removetheturban:
We do not owe you answers. We do not answer to you either. We have been given an assignment by Jesus and that is what we do. The whole world knows us for obeying the command that Jesus gave, to preach. I should provide answers to 'IF A JW CAN MARRY A JW'? Isn't that a joke?

So you believed Jesus is the one who gave you people assignment.

If I'm not mistaken, the assignment is when Jesus said "...you shall be MY WITNESS..."

But how come you people are Jehovah Witness and NOT Jesus Witness? OR does Jehovah and Jesus the same entity?

Martinez19:
But you believe that things written in the bible are true?

Typical arrogant life of an Atheists.

Someone created a post and the guy came in to show that 'some people have actually carried out a RESEARCH to know the location of the garden'.

He even went further to say he is not a Christian but only a seeker of the truth. Yet, you still want to rope him as a religious person.

And people like you will be claiming highest IQ than religious people but lack simple comprehension.

dalaman:
Nobody even know the authors of the book of Genesis. All the stories there are mythical. Science does NOT support anything written in Genesis . The people you mentioned up there are liars.

Typical arrogant life of Atheist, who is talking about Author here?

Funny enough, you even went further to disgrace yourself by saying "Science does NOT support anything written in Genesis"

But if the people have said things that go against the Bible, I guess it won't take you time to cheer and praise them.

sunnyphem:
Why did God made Adam and eve to lives after they fell ? why not replace them then?

Because a fail student is the one who repeat the class not someone else.

jashar:
what was the essence of the picture? what message where they trying to pass?

It's "WERE" dear not "WHERE"

"Where" is used for location/position

E.g Where is my phone?

Troublemaker007:
Nigeria and Africa in general have a very long way to go.

If they have long way to go, it means they're already on the road to where they're are going.

But the truth is, they're still inside the bush searching for how to locate the road.

salvation101:
There are several things in the Bible that aren't very clear and this subject matter happens to be one of them.
The school of thought that supports this event usually make reference to Gen1:1-2..they argue that there are billions of years between these two verses.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

They claim the initial creation happened in verse 1 and eventually billions of years passed before God for some reason had to destroy the earth but eventually decided to restore it back to shape from verse two.. They also argue that it explains the extinction of some creatures that have been discovered by modern day archeologists and dated million and billions of years..

I am very interested in learning about this topic from other Christians, are there other places in the Bible that supports the existence of a Pre-Adamic age?

One thing people yet to understand about creation account in the scripture is that God didn't give the details of the whole creation but to let us know where we start to rebel against him.

Gen 1:1 Is the whole summary of both Heavens and Earth are the handiwork of God.

Earth was mentioned along with heaven because it's the focal point here where the image of God exists.

Gen 1:2-down talks about how God PREPARED THE EARTH to make it HABITABLE (to accommodate LIFE)

Therefore, Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2- down are different but that doesn't mean any race existed before God prepared the earth to make it habitable.

The timeline between Genesis 1:1 & 1:2 can be one day, 1 month, 1 year or even billions years but the fact is everything(all living things) start to exist on earth from the account of Gen1:2 because Gen1:2 only talks about how God made it to be habitable.

Earth be like other planets that no life occupied in Gen1:1.