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melody91:
yes ..and I have questions for you as well..how long have you been on nairaland? do you know it wasn't that way right from time? and finally what led to it's creation?

I have to join this thread because of this your comment not about the OP.

Firstly, I noticed that you're just a year older on Nairaland yet you refused to agree with those posts put forth by @butterflyleo which is too bad for a seeker of truth.

Secondly, I've been around since 2012 after being a guest for months when there was no oath on Islamic section and I do have a good discussion with many Muslim friends then.

Thirdly, you asked "do you know it wasn't that way right from time? and finally what led to it's creation?"

Yes, you're right! Seun himself has cleared air about this shortly after the oath was put on Islam section (just that I can't do search to get the thread).

It was as a result of life threatening! I could remember vividly then that this made some people left religion section even Nairaland till date.

Lastly, What was the creation?
During normal religion section everybody bashes each other Christians, Atheists, Muslims & Pagans (though this is not about individual but I just used affiliated names). The problem started, when some Muslims begin to complain about how their religion is being abused whereas they also do bash other religions.

Seun gave them a separate section but the funny part of it is that in their own section, they are still creating thread related to Jesus or using science to proof Islam which then forced Christian to go to their section and defend their faith likewise Atheists to proof their scientific argument wrong about Islam.

Moreover, having separate section doesn't prevent some Muslims to come to religion section to air their opinion which sometimes leads to heated argument.

Yet, this doesn't rest well with some Muslims who still think their religion is being bashed and abused. It then leads to various ban by their mod as well as oath sanction.

Even after the oath, some people in Islam section will still create different topic about Christianity which leads some Christians to create another account and use it to accept the oath so that they can comment on their thread. This also applies to Atheists!

Udasto knows this truth but I wonder why he gave an account that Muslims as the only victim of it.

My point is this, everyone in religion section do bash themselves irrespective of argument that rose up BUT only Muslims personalised it to mean ISLAM ONLY.

highness25:
Like if you think Nigeria will qualify, share if you think we (Nigeria) can't make it

Nigeria will qualify not as runner up but as top in the table. Nigeria will win Iceland and Argentina while Argentina will draw Corotia!

Mark it down

And the Gospel light will continue to shine! Hallelujah!

All what you wrote would have been meaningful and true, had it been the Creator hasn't revealed Himself to people.

If people of old have actually imagined it the way you portrayed it then our generation can't confirm it.

OneJ:
@Emusan,psalms 83:18 reads "that men may know that thou whose name is JEHOVAH' art the Most High over all the earth".
Emusan, i have one question for U: na JWs write that verse for Bible?
Twist Psalms 83:18 as it pleases U.
Your sentimental rants can't change God's word. "
Jehovah is the name of the Most High God.

You're not too smart, anyway I know you people lack simple comprehension or deliberately twisting the truth.

Both the Op and I never said God's name never appeared in the Bible (get that into your skull) but wrong pronunciation and formulation which YOUR ORGANIZATION KNOWS ABOUT but still WENT AHEAD TO PROMOTE

like I asked in my previous thread that dealt with a topic like this, will the Catholic monk who formulated the Latin name be part of the Little flocks or not?

Riofidelio:
The ñame "Jesús" that's now accepted globally is not the ORIGINAL pronunciation of the name of God's son,yet in every nation the name has been agreed upon (though pronounced differently due to language barriers) Jehovah's witnesses accepted the divine name just as everybody accepted the transliterated "Jesus" since the Bible made it clear that God has a unique name that HIMSELF and HIS only begotten son holds so dear(Exodus 6:3,Psalm 83:18,John 17:26)so please let's go and meditate on that! God bless you.

I have dealt with this in the past on this forum, see it here!

https://www.nairaland.com/2242343/two-things-need-know-jehovahs

The funny part of it is that you people will continue to twist the truth just to hold on to lies.

malificent:
The rate of road accidents these days have suddenly multipled three-fold. Lord please protect your people from blood thirsty demons.

May the departed Rest in Peace.

It's not only in Nigeria, it's a global thing!

That's why the UN is taking an urgent step to tackle road crashes because the forecast is that by 2020 road crashes record will reach 1.9m per ann currently it's 1.3m

Right now road crashes kill more than deadly disease

GEJfan1:
Interesting... So the name Jehovah was even derived by a Spanish

JW themselves admitted that the rendering of YHWH isn't supposed to be Jehovah but they go with the pronunciation of Jehovah simply because "MANY PEOPLE are already FAMILIAR with the name Jehovah"

Take a closer look at @bolden:
>This is the same organization that always claim to correct God's name and Hallow It YET can go with what we can call wrong rendering of God's name.
>This is the same organization that always claim that people have changed the name of God YET admitted that the same people are already FAMILIAR with it.

BlissB:
Hahaha.....are you sure?

Very very MA!

BlissB:
She get toolz datz y she day flaunt am....people like me wen flat for back and front nor try am

I like it the way you are!

Temtee11223344:
President Muhammadu Buhari has tendered the nation's apology to the family of the late Chief Moshood Abiola, the winner of the June 12, 1993 election.

Buhari gave this apology while delivering his speech at the conferment of national honours on the late Chief Moshood Kashimawo Abiola and other key players of the 1993 elections.

An emotional Buhari also called on all dignitaries present at the conferment ceremony to stand and give a minute silence to all those who lost their lives for the June 12 struggle.

Read More Below

http://www.nigeriannewsweb.com/breaking-on-behalf-of-nigeria-i-apologize-to-mko-abiola-buhari/

I'm still not understand the whole fuss about this annulment drama if the person who perpetrated the act won't be brought to book.

Flintstone06:
Interesting how Tofa won some core south eastern states and Abiola also won some core northern states.

We are definitely more divided now as a country than ever before.

Nothing interesting here!

The same Abiola won ALL the SW states while Tofa never won one, is that not a great division?

I can see you emotionally outburst written all over your comment but I just want to enlighten you not argue with you.

Olifiz:
You are the one who needs to do research. Look for their bible open any verse and check if it’s the same with urs. Their bible is translated to resent English u and I use instead of all those “thy, thee, forseketh etc”.

Where did I say their Bible didn't translate into English?

My point about their Bible is WHO ARE THE NOTABLE SCHOLARS that involved in the translation of their Bible?

I think u don’t know how Dey got that name “Jehovahs Witness” go n do research pls. It’s in Isaiah 43:10-12 pls read it. I know ur bible will write God or Jehovah Dey are the same so u see “witnesses of God or Jehovah"

Here we go, I know the Bible says in Isaiah 43:10-12 that "YOU ARE my witness..." but the best question a seeker of truth will ask is who are these YOU the Bible is referring to here?
Also, go to Old Testament you can see many references to God promising to do something but New Testament revealed Jesus to be the actual person doing those things.
If God says you are my witness in the OLD TESTAMENT and the New Testament points to Jesus Christ as the one we all need to witness to, even Jesus Himself said we should be His witnesses. Who are you to decide for God?

They don’t cherry pick anything. Maybe the witness arguing wasn’t sound enough.

He is an elderly person, I know something like this will come...mind you I have had many discussion with both young and elderly people of JW and my question always render them speechless, only to find one excuse to discharge themselves.

In fact they don’t only use their bible. Go n research read thru their magazines especially awake they do quote from KJV et al. If u want to know more about them instead of sticking to what u hear people say out of sentiments visit their site JW.org n see first hand for urself. This post is not to convince u but to make u stop making wrong assertions basically from sentiments n from baised mind.

If your claim is true, why then they don't go with the KJV translation of John 1:1 as "...and the word was God" but they only go with their own Bible as "...and the word was a god"
isn't that a double standard?

They are one of the peaceful people I have ever known on earth, they don’t engage in fights, politics, riots, protests killings, or as seen in some sects do pray for soldiers to go to war to kill their fellow man and from my experience they are one of the most trusted people u can ever relate with, they are well behaved. By their fruits u shall know them

Thank God you didn't say THEY ARE the only peaceful people on earth but THEY ARE ONE OF which means other peaceful people still exist and even among Muslims, Atheist, Hinduism and Buddhism there are peaceful people.

I really don’t like to compare. But we have seen ur so called God of Men meddling in politics, mostly all about money rather then about God (pastorpreneurs), rituals, etc. they mostly preach about prosperity, how to be rich rather than how to attain salvation.

I have heard stories where people assault them when they preach n never retaliate or beat grudges they still even show hospitality to that person etc. I know it will be hard for u to accept these simple truth for ur mind might have been blinded to agree to certain truths but it’s okay. Stay blessed.

If the way SOME people used God's name to dupe people is what is affecting you, sorry you can carry your frustration to another place.

God will judge individual according their deed

Olifiz:
I believe everything they practice are admonition or commandments stated in the Bible. If it’s not written or commanded in the Bible JW’s no Dey do am o.

No you're wrong!
Firstly, they don't follow everything stated in the Bible rather they designed their own Bible to follow!
For instance;
>The Father Himself is a witness to His Son
>The Holy Spirit is a witness to the Son
>The early Apostles are all witness to Jesus Himself.
>Jesus Himself said after receiving the Holy Spirit they will be witness UNTO HIM not to anyone! but they claim they are Jehovah witness. Then asked them is Jesus Jehovah they are witnessing for they'll say NO!

Secondly, they cherry-picked any Bible that suit them without considering the context of the passage NOT JUST ONE VERSE!
For instance, a discussion arose BTW my colleague, me and JW fellow. actually, the discussion wasn't about God, Bible, JW nor argument. I remember my colleague just said, "he believes the world will soon end" The next thing the JW man will do is quoting a verse Eccl 1:4 and that my colleague just asked him simple question "Sir, can you continue to read further?" The man couldn't say a word.

something like that happened not up to five minutes the man repeated the same verse and my colleague asked the same question yet this man couldn't answer and ended the discussion!

NOTE my colleague didn't know that the man is a JW but I know the man and reason why he couldn't answer that simple question. This thing happened three days ago.

If you want to know the truth you go out and do research so that you'll be able to select.

Different people of different colors and background have translated original Bible into English language and other languages, why will JW discard 100's of other translations and solely relied on the one their own unqualified scholars translated?

FriendNG:
He cannot be added. He hasn't take the oath of office and oath of allegiance.

So why did President Buhari honor him with GCFR?
Can someone who hasn't taken oath of office and oath of allegiance be called GCFR?

Me just asked no fuzz

Enice:
SEterners have more landed properties in the FCT than any other region.

Does that make them the rightful owner of FCT OR make them Gbagi indigen?

oyoni:
Is FCT not the North?

The same question I'm about to ask
As if FCT isn't controlled by the Northerners

tugrow:
please i thinks you kindly go ask CBN this , i may get a better answer

Hi Tugrow, Alfred told me yesterday that my goods have arrived and he will send me the bill but I haven't received the bill till now.

Help me remind him ASAP

jaxxy:
Stop analyzing bull$hit and call a spade a fvcking spade. Ramos knew perfectly wat he was doing. Salah was foolish and naive to give him the perfect opportunity and he used heartlessly and got away with it. Period! Salah shud learn. Its part of the process of being a top player. U must protect urself.

I still state categorically we shud not support such tackles cos this can happen to nigeria in the world cup and kick us out then we wud understand the feeling.

OK ooo tell Nigerians players to be romancing their opposition during World Cup or better put it they should not mark them...them and opposition should be doing tip-tap

muffyt05:
You're wrong in your analysis in a million ways,I mean why resort to such negative tactics in order to eliminate the best player from the opposite side,it just shows how unfair and how unworthy Real Madrid are. The same was witnessed in the semis when Robben was tactically nocked out,I mean the world is not interested in the eventual winner but we wanna see beautiful football on display. I'm not a fan of both sides but Ramos is a plague that urgently needs to be weeded out of football globally cos he's a bad brand to the game we all love to see

I'm not a football fan but the hotel I logged yesterday night is the reason I watched the match and I only following this match issue here on NL because of people like you who watch football with emotions and sentiment.

After that match few minutes later, DSTV reshow the match.

1. Both teams were pretty doing well not that Liverpool over power Madrid before Salah out.
2. On the issue of Salah and Ramos, both players were fairly competing for the ball.
3. Salah was first to possess the ball with a head kick, Ramos on the other hand OUTRUNS Salah (which Salah didn't expect)
4. The quick challenge made Salah to defend himself by stretching out his hand but unfortunately it went straight to Ramos' armpit.
5. Salah hand's defense and Ramos' speed can't prevent Ramos' fall. So, the only option for Ramos to guide his falling is Salah's hand in his armpit.

At that scene even Ramos can get himself injured but it's just painful that it was Salah that be the victim.

NOTE: Match was still ongoing when it happened to tell you that it's not hard tackle that requires referee attention not until another person committed foul.

Otedollaryen:
yes. But if you watch that clip clearly you will see Ramos drag and twisted salah arm. It was actually Ramos that dislocated salahs shoulder. Not even the impact of the fall.

You people always attach emotion and sentiment to things!

Go and check it again, it was Salah's right arm that Ramos held and drag but the injury is on the left shoulder.

Which means the injury is as a result of the fall that can happen to any two players contesting for ball.

FoolishBoy419:
The bastards all had it planned. This is thruggery and not experience

That's the problem with you people always getting emotional over everything with great sentiment.

Try to watch the replay carefully, you will come out with these:
1. Salah was in the first possession of the ball with head kick
2. Ramos outruns Salah to claim the ball and being in possession of it.
3. Before Salah could realize what was happening, Ramos had beaten him, (this is where Salah made a mistake) by stretching his arm to guide himself (but unfortunately) it was under Ramos' armpit. which is already late!
4. With the speed Ramos came with and how Salah guided himself it's evident that Ramos will fall, so the only option for him is Salah arm to support his falling.
5. So it made it look like it was Salah who was trying to gain the ball possession back from Ramos that was why even referee didn't know what was happening not until another person commentted foul

I believe even if Ramos is planning any hard tackle for Salah he didn't believe that one could cause it because that was different from hard tackle we see players intentionally do.

I'm not arguing please just my observation!

Zane2point4:
Am not suprised the judge is a woman and might be linked to clinton and her people, the fact is many women in the usa hate trump hence the partial judgement.

Let him appeal asap, so a foul mouthed individual have the right to insult and block the president but the president doesn't have the same right to?

Over Liberty and right the worry American especially the women folks over there they wan kill there men.

Whenever I read Trump's tweet and see how people are calling him all sort of names, I thought disrespectful and lack of home training for a leader can only be found in Nigeria.

But mehhhh....if you think GEJ or PMB are being insulted just try to open Trump's tweeter!

Rilwayne001:
Yes, a typical yoruba is not beclowded by sentiment when it comes to saying the obvious truth

So what was your stand when OBJ rose against GEJ If you're not sentimental?

Did you say what you're saying today?

Swear that you didn't jubilate and praise OBJ then!

I was naive and quick to judge, now i know better. Success doesn't come within a twinkle of an eye, it takes time. It is not the day you give birth that the baby starts to walk is it? Buhari is trying despite the many opposition from rogues and corrupt politicians, he's not giving up. That it's taking time for his efforts to materialise doesn't mean we should bring up another person to come and start all over again.

So you believed all these in PMB regime but believed Nigeria should be transformed into paradise over night under GEJ yet you're claiming not to be sentimental....

You're a double standard person, thank God that many people who are around pro-2015 are still on NL today.

jerseyboy:
It will never end ....until Buhari is GONE

This is what people were saying before 2015 election thinking GEJ and PDP are the causes of Boko Haram but we're still on it till today.

Printerscanner:
If you want to burn your parents corpses, you can go ahead. I won't burn my parents. Just know that your children will do same for you so that you can enter hell from earth.

This is wrong perspection every dead bodies undergo burning process at the end of the day either buried or cremated.

Bury is a slow burning while cremation is a rapid burning.

Mind you I don't support cremation for the good reason of ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE-BASED which @OP failed to list as one of the disadvantages of cremation.

soberdrunk:
I just wonder what our African ancestors were doing when these folks were developing "technologically"?! Please how does Innoson carry out his own test?

Your great grandchildren will ask the same thing if you didn't start something now

tommy159:
When you are big, you are big abeg!

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Keep deceiving yourself Babatcargo

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No peace for the wicked!

For those who don't know him, he is a scammer!

His former moniker on NL was BABATCARGO and he scammed people that he can buy and ship items for them from China. Later register a new moniker as DEBAZENT (which I exposed)

Please don't fall for his scam.

ehissi:
How does one make payment and when do I expect the goods

He is a scammer don't fall for him, his former moniker on nairaland is Babatcago....search this name on the NL search engine and see for yourself.