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lindashealthwat:
Yes its performing more than ETH; that it started before; ( doge 1 is now 2000$)


While ETH that just started yesterday.....1 ETH is 0.008


Pathetic,,,,,,, its improving seriously.

Dego is the future

Where did you see me saying it's performing than ETH?

It shows that you don't even know what you're saying or anything about Crypto.

lastly, why did you always call it DEGO when you can read it from OP and my post as DOGE? This speaks a lot about your level.

chenor:
can you please put me through

Don't into scammer hands be careful sis.

Crypto market is so wide open and easy to learn fast.

First do research on your own.

dan56:
DEGo can never rise cos it don't have cap, there are billion of coins in circulation and the keep releasing thousands of them

Don't say what you don't know.
DOGE is a good coin worthy to hold

1. It has greatly increased at CMC (CoinMarketCap) of recent being among the first 35 compare to where it was before.
2. Very cheap for easy transaction among exchangers which will make it stay long in the market.
3. Just last week mBitCasino which is one of the leading online Casino has listed DOGE along with Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash & Litecoin of coin that can be used to play online game on their site.

With this Doge price is expecting to perform greatly in this year.

NtoAkwaIbom:
Seriously ??
Are you sure you are a Christian ?
Do you even know what you go to church to do ?

Go and read what happened at the birth of Christ and at His death in the Bible to compare.

The heaven was full of Joy simply because Saviour of the world was born.

At the birth of Christ God started to fulfill the very age prophecy beginning from Gen 3

NtoAkwaIbom:
So why did they not do the same during Easter ? Which is the foundation of Christianity ?

Sorry the Birth of Christ is the foundation of Christianity that's why Angels can rejoice at His birth and not at His death.

So after recreated the person, will the software transfer the edited image to the real person

smoy:
now you got my point. but don't get your self confused again, Jesus was Just a prophet.

But He is The way, the Truth and The Life! Which ordinary prophet has ever claimed such thing?

all 99 names of Allah can be answered by any body since they are just an attribute as far as the slave is added as prefix, not only 'the Truth.'

So where did you see Jesus added any PREFIX to the Truth?

Jesus simply said: He is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE!

Just as Muhammad and you agree that Allah is THE WAY and nobody can be THE way after Allah.

logical deduction mention that the comforter shall be the way because he said He shall abide with you for ever, you remember that Jesus said he had many thing to say but your faculty couldn't hold it then.

So it's Muhammad ABIDE WITH YOU till now?

It has become LOGICAL DEDUCTION now, but your statement then was: "JESUS SAID..."

Stop defending religion, seek The True God with open mind!

smoy:
100 percent agreed but remember that he said when is alive in this world. because before him there was a way, Moses was, Abraham was, Solomon was, now the way and life is that comforters Jesus told you about, i.e Muhammed (peace and blessing of Allah be on them all)

Lol...you think you're dealing with a novice in Qur'an.

So you agree Jesus is equal to Allah because according to Qur'an only Allah is The Way, The Truth and The Life.

That's why among the 99 names of Allah, THE TRUTH was there!

Sorry where did Jesus ever say the comforter is the way and Life?

Again, you people will continue to idolize Muhammad by attributing what does not belong to him just to make sure he match up with Jesus' statements.

Even whom Muhammad himself didn't claim to be when he was alive.

smoy:
what did Jesus said that i do not agreed to ?

He said: He is The Way, The Truth and The Life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him!

Do you agree?

smoy:
if you are not Muslim yet you are just a trow stone away, God is one Jesus was a prophet sent by God, and the one sent cant be greater than the one who sent the person as Jesus said. Allah will lead you.

So you agree to the place wherw Jesus talked about who is the greatest but you didn't agree to other thing He said.

Very pathetic.

alBHAGDADI:
Mr Muslim, leave this place with your terrorist and satanic doctrines.

We don't give virgins here.

Blakjewelry:
Gravity is a curve space time and not just an attractive like magnet, the further you are from the curvature the less you will experience it. And there is nothing like zero gravity what object experience in space is weightlessness

I was watching a documentary by BBB (Big Bigger Biggest) about ISS (International Space Station). The documenter says ISS was put in space to know how life could have survived in ZERO Gravity but you are here telling us another lie.

Besides, if there's Gravity from the Sun that hold all planets in space. Why should there be anything called WEIGHTLESSNESS?

Why can't we experience this same weightlessness here on earth?

Blakjewelry:
Objects don't just crash into a planet like that. You see in space everything is in constant motion. now when an object such as an asteroid journey toward the sun, on each circle, it is attracted by a planet or planets as the case may be, thereby altering it course on each circle. Now that might keep happening each time and the object gets closer to one of the planets until it strikes

But asteroid has crashed into many planets without number.

Smile...attracted by the planets. Why is it that, it's the planets that attracted them and not the sun?
Which force(s) that is responsible for the attraction?

Does it mean sun doesn't have what it takes to attract Asteroid or what?

All objects in a solar or star system rotate around their parent star or sun, now they do so at different angles there is no specific distance and angle

I have to quote this separate.
Now, if this is also applicable to planets while is it that among the planets in our solar system, none has ever move close to another planet?

Blakjewelry:
The sun creates a crater like structure in space where all the objects in our solar system is located, so the planets also created a crater like structure inside the sun's crater where it house the moon

How are this crater form? because if Sun came before planets, it means Sun's gravity is already at work. Why will Sun's gravity allow planets to form freely?

Don't forget it was all in chaos.

4kings:
I'm sure you one of them guys that argue on YouTube comments.
Do you also think space is a hoax, earth is flat and so on.

I've never said anything about these, so just limit my points where we are for now.

I need some education, to get properly your point of view, i think have been blindfolded by too much Neil Degrasse Tyson.

The only way GRAVITY could have operate in various ways is if gravity itself is conscious and intelligent.

Just read about how they depict gravitational force in universe and how gravity actually works.

But your asteriods issue has to do with speed which depends on their distance from the sun.

This is where you should know the lies behind GRAVITY.

Firstly, Planets doesn't rotate at the same speed then why didn't they fall off their orbit?

Secondly, if we should follow your point about asteroids speed being defer. Then there should be a great chaos in our solar system since planets don't rotate at the same speed.

Lastly, planets are not the same distance to the Sun.
Venue which is the second to the Sun is smaller than earth even rotate with lower speed than earth, yet the massive gravity of the sun couldn't pull it but the same Sun gravity can hold the biggest planet 'Jupiter' and all its moons in it's orbit.

Planets rotating clockwise has to do with early impact of asteroids.

How can gravity put all planets both big and small including their moons in their orbits BUT THIS SAME GRAVITY couldn't put asteroids in orbit?

If you think small asteroids could defile the almighty gravity
to crash into planets but the biggest planet still obeys gravity, then something is wrong somewhere.

It seems gravity is an intelligent being.

As for your last post, take into consideration the distance of the sun and moon and earth and moon.

If Sun's gravity could hold the farthest planet in it's orbit, are you saying this same gravity doesn't travel across the path of our Moon?

4kings:
"A body continues in a state of rest or of uniform rotation unless acted by an external force." - Newton's first law of motion.
Thus this conserves the initial angular momentum.

If the massive gravity of the sun can control earth even the biggest planet Jupiter, then tell me, is it the planetary gravity that supposed to be controlling their moons or Sun's gravity?

4kings:
uhm, Loventinz illustrated this with his ball and string example.

Yes gravity pulls the earth to the sun, but the earth is in motion and not stationery therefore it's acceleration changes it's direction.

Smile...but this same motion and acceleration doesn't apply to object like asteroids or planet's moon.

We have heard on several occasions where asteroid collided with planets, is it that those asteroids suddenly stopped moving or gravity went on break?

In fact, the biggest question is, while object like asteroids don't rotate in their orbits? or gravity doesn't have power to put asteroids in rotation?

Again, some scientists postulate that the reason while some planets rotate clockwisely is because THEIR MOON crashed back into their mother planets.

Please tell me, does it mean those moons didn't be in motion when they crashed back? or gravity went on holiday?

The way they claim gravity works, an open minded person can only come to conclusion that only intelligent being can operate that way.

Lovetinz:
1. If you tie a small ball to a string, hold your hand aloft and swing it around you at a speed just enough to keep if from falling...
The string is gravity.

So why do they put laboratory in space "ISS" to know how life can survive in ZERO gravity?

Should there be anything like ZERO gravity when sun's gravity can hold the farthest planet?

Gravity is hoax!

If gravity is pulling everything to earth's surface, why not the same gravity pulled all planets to sun's surface?

lovingJehovah:
What is the shape or form of the spirit?

Triangle....mtcheeee

why does this part interest you?

because if our spirit actually returns to God it means not all our part remained in the shore of ground. Which then nullified your own thread.

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That Footing Base is nowhere fits into any structural specification.

Zanas:
They (Arabs) don't call it Jerusalem, they call it Al Quds

Was Arabic the language the Jews speak?

lovingJehovah:
The Bible clearly spoke about the spirit (which is the breath of life) returning to God but what about the soul?

So, you agree that if person died something must return to God in heaven...

This is the only part that interests me because I know other points reflect how confused you people can be.

Peacefullove:
O boy, All this Christians won't cease to amaze me .

The Green caught my attention ,

- You mean Yeshua and Yahweh is father are equal in Nature ?

- Is Jesus Yahweh or a servant of Yahweh ?

Waiting for your response

So you can quote my post and yet couldn't see it through that Jesus isn't the Father! But for Yahweh they both own that name.

The green part that caught your attention simply means, Jesus and His Father are of the same nature just like you and your dad are human being.

The nature of man if different from Animal.
The nature of Angel is different from that of man.
The nature of God is different from that of man and Angel.

lovingJehovah:
You will never be satisfied with answers because you are biased. You are a hater of the JW and that changes nothing.

So you create a thread only to massage the ego of your brother. Well if you think I'm a hater of your organization that's good because I'm a terror to all those who conceal truth in lies.

You have been answered and yet you stay recycling your questions just to get a feel that is non-existing. You are asking someone to tell you how Jesus pronounced God's name? Are you being realistic? Do we speak that language? The scriptures were recorded as written text and not motion picture. Even in English there are many pronunciations to a single word. None of the words that you pronounce today were pronounced the same way that Jesus pronounced it because they were all written in another language that has its own rules. The name Jesus is English and in the Hebrew and Greek languages it doesn't come off as the English pronunciation.
Get some education on Linguistics. Each language has rules and they guide pronunciations of word. The way centre is pronounced in English is different from the way it is pronounced in French. It would be inept to ask a French who has no knowledge of English to sound centre in English.
Let me ask you a similar question that you are asking and see how well you perform. Here is a word in old persian, xšaθra. Please pronounce it the way Cyrus the great pronounced it.
Here is another one, ⲡ ⲧ ϫ ⲕ. Pronounce it the way the Egyptian Pharoahs pronounced it. If you cannot, then you have no case. In every language, all you do is translate words that are in foreign languages and forge ahead.
Asking the same question and recycling it is a waste of human organs and a way to feel victorious when a case is lost. Is that question your only defense? If you got a good case you should bring on evidences and not wasting people's time in a whirlpool.

You simple problem is that you lack simple comprehension, if not you'd have realized that I didn't ask HOW did Jesus pronounce the NAME?

From your OPEN THREAD, common sense will draw you to conclusion which is just a answer to my question but since you people have been programmed like robot to reason in one way, so applying common sense will be difficult.

I know quiet well that you people know the implication of giving straight answer to my question that's why you people keep perambulating over it.

Finally, if you claim Jesus made the name KNOWN then why didn't you call Jesus Jehovah since the same Jesus came in His Father's name?

Jozzy4:
Jesus clearly said he makes the name KNOWN , He won't have used substituted words to claim that!

Just imaging, Jesus said He made the name KNOWN. So, that's how your organization has programmed you to interpret this verse.

At least you people always hide under misquote works of some NT scholars but can you give us at least TWO NT scholars who interpreted this verse as Jesus was moving around shouting JEHOVAH up and down?

Besides, if your interpretation of this verse means Jesus was actually telling people about the name Jehovah, why didn't you call Jesus Himself Jehovah? Since Jesus said He came in His Father's name! John 5:43

Provide your evidence that the pronounciation has been LONG LOST BEFORE THE TIME OF JESUS?

Now you are asking me to provide evidence. (That means you didn't even read the OP in the first place you only jumped in as a robot to support your brother about the name Jehovah) because according to your brother who opened this thread, he said the original pronunciation was lost SHORTLY after the OLD TESTAMENT was completed.

Was OT completed after the death of Jesus or before Jesus was born?

This is what he said from the OP because you need to be taught like a primary 4

Ancient Hebrew was written without vowels, using only consonants. The Hebrew-speaking reader could easily provide the appropriate vowels. However, after the Hebrew Scriptures (“Old Testament”) were completed, some Jews adopted the superstitious belief that it was wrong to utter God’s personal name. When they read aloud a scripture that contained God’s name, they substituted expressions such as “Lord” or “God.” As centuries passed, this superstition spread and the ancient pronunciation was eventually lost.

Jozzy4:

https://www.nairaland.com/1524683/reason-why-jehovah-witnesses-call

That's why I said you people are robot only program to act the way the governing body wants.

My points on this thread so far was never ABOUT why JWs are using the name JEHOVAH, do we need to use this name or the TRANSLATION of the Hebrew name.

My points was raised from the OP itself. Now I'll quote the portion of the OP and insert my comment in red, maybe this time you people can receive sense.

The exact pronunciation of the divine name in ancient Hebrew is not known. (This reason why the EXACT PRONUNCIATION is not known was provided by OP below!) However, the form “Jehovah” has a long history in the English language, first appearing in William Tyndale’s Bible translation of 1530. *

Why is the pronunciation of God’s name in ancient Hebrew unknown? (This is a question asked by OP himself!)

Ancient Hebrew was written without vowels, using only consonants. The Hebrew-speaking reader could easily provide the appropriate vowels.

(Now this is where my crucial point was reaised!)However, after the Hebrew Scriptures (“Old Testament”) were completed, some Jews adopted the superstitious belief that it was wrong to utter God’s personal name. When they read aloud a scripture that contained God’s name, they substituted expressions such as “Lord” or “God.” As centuries passed, this superstition spread and the ancient pronunciation was eventually lost.* (From here, we can deduce the followings:
1. The Jews adopted a SUPERSTITION (This superstition is the TRADITION OF MEN) not to utter the Name of God.

2. They substituted an expression for the ORIGINAL NAME which are LORD OR GOD.

3. This substitution lead to the entire lost of the ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION of God's name as century passed.

NOW: Prior to the time of Jesus the original pronunciation of God's name is still lost which means nobody knows how to pronounce it, so the ONLY way is to pronounce it either in LORD or GOD.

So, Jesus was given a portion of the book of Isaiah to read and the name of God appeared in that portion.

My question which you people are perambulating over and mixing with your delusions stems from here.

Did Jesus follow the SUPERSTITION of men by pronouncing what God's name was substituted for i.e Lord or God, or Jesus used the original pronunciation of God's name?

I believe this explanation is enough for a Primary 4 pupils to understand unless their teacher is from Kaduna.

lovingJehovah:
Are you talking of an English pronunciation of a word written in Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic without translating it? What in the real sense are you asking?

I said it, it's very cleared that you don't understand your own post unfortunately you've started to derail your own thread but I won't allow that.

The simple question I asked after cited different reference from your OP was, DID JESUS HIMSELF PRONOUNCE THE ORIGINAL NAME WHEN HE READ THAT PORTION OF ISAIAH?

Points deducing from your OP are:
1) The original pronunciation name of God had been lost.

2) The fear of pronouncing God's name in vain had caused the Jews to substitute it for Lord or God.

3) This substitution brought about the tradition of men being followed

Now if Jesus actually read that portion of Isaiah and the original name of God appeared there

Did Jesus actually follow the tradition of men by pronouncing what was substituted for God's name or He used the ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION?

After all Jesus supposed to know the original pronunciation of the name because His Father will surely teach Him if His Father is so much concerned about it.

You can see that this is different from translations issue but since you people have been programmed only to defend the word JEHOVAH you couldn't understand my points.

This is the simple question have been asking and none of you can't answer instead rumbling and perambulating here.

Jesus pronounced it many times.

Can you show us where Jesus pronounce it?

Chech the attached PIC below to see how your own organization refuted your claim.

JMAN05:
You knw how many times I ve refuted your claims in this board.

Provide a link to the thread(s) you've refuted my claims.

Only if you are honest.

Are you honest with yourself

But your problem is going straight and answer question without filling the whole thread with long unreasonable write-ups.

You called it unreasonable, but you always enjoy them and learn them from them.

Why not give a straight answer? Is that hard for you?

I asked question first, so answer mine and answer to your question will come immediately.


You're looking for a way to derail this thread but I won't allow that. If you didn't answer my question then forget it.

JMAN05:
That question I asked is it too big that you can't provide a simple answer? That's why discussing with you is a burden.

Have a nice day!

Imaging I first asked question you didn't answer but have to jump in with your own question.

Besides, like I pointed out from my previous points raised, it's not about TRANSLATIONS but about LOST PRONUNCIATION.

Discussing with me will always be burden to JWS because they can't refute my points.