₦airaland Forum

Vecto:
His existence began on earth. Humans don't preexist their birth.

Since you don't know Jesus preexisted His earthly mission, then it shows the level you can go to twist the scripture including those one you're quoting.

Vecto:
I assume you have evidence showing he cast his glory aside? Otherwise this is just circular reasoning.

Was Jesus started to exist on earth or He existed in heaven before He came to earth?

The bible says Jesus was appointed heir of all things.
Flash news: If you're God no one appoints you heir of anything because you own it already. How can you be appointed heir to something you already have?
Appoint means you did not have it before. God has everything before time and space. You see this?
Ask yourself: how does the eternal God who owns everything gets appointed something from God? or from someone else?

Was Jesus appointed heir of anything while in heaven or only when He was on earth?

This is the problem you people have with the scripture, inability to distinguish when Bible is talking about The Word of God (Jesus) in heaven and His mission on earth which He achieved through Human nature.

As regards your last point there's no argument here at all. Jesus requested for the same glory which he received from the father to be given to the disciples as well.

Using your logic they must be Gods too.

This is how you people always twist the scripture.

Jesus didn't say He 'RECEIVED GLORY' but He 'HAD/SHARED GLORY' with the Father BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN

NOTE: This thing happened even before the WORLD began!

How can a being shared glory with God if the being isn't God?

Pataricatering:
they asked if Jesus was a representation or God himself ? You say he is not a representation but the real thing as his word Do you know the meaning of representation ? Na wa o ! You people have tied yourselves into a bind with meaningless scripture you will now be performing mental acrobatics to give the meaningless meaning !

I pray tell us the meaning of representation?

And you who didn't tie yourself to a bind with meaningless scripture which mental gymnastics understanding of the scripture are you performing?

BabatCargo:
We do both

Na wa ooo
The question is which one is more less expensive?

@babatcargo

I want a good to be shipped for me from China just 3.5kg

Which is more less expensive, you pay for me or me pay directly?

Thanks

[quote author= post=66284656]We learn everyday.
Wanna learn about this too.

I'm glad we don't have to accept 'Allah is God' on out signature before commenting this time.
We serve the same God I believe.[/quote]If you and Muslims are serving the same God, why don't you gladly accept the Islamic oath on their section?

DONMAYOR19:
They will try but their plan will never come to pass. ROMAN CATHOLIC TIL DEATH.

Your statement should have been "Follower of Christ till death" is it being a RC that will take you to heaven?

tugrow:
Are we paying for you? Or you are paying yourself?

That's why I seek advice from you.

Let me know the benefit of me paying or you paying and everything involved. So that can choose!

Thanks

duroc:
Hello sir, kindly hit up

What do you mean pls?

@tugrow
I need your response as quick as possible.

I want to order something from China and I have already gotten a manufacturer with everything concluded but I haven't done anything like overseas buying before.
Though, I met the manufacturer on Aliexpress and I'm satisfied with the items he wants to supply me.

•Now, can you help me with this items or I should link him with you?
•How much it will cost me to ship it down to Nigeria just 3.5kg?

Thanks

I need a reliable and trustworthy company/person that deals with shipping from China to Nigeria.

NOTE: Don't PM first until we reach agreement here before contact can be exchanged.

Tlontin:
Wouldn't mind if involved ooo

I based in Abuja and you?

Tlontin:
Nice write up and full of wisdom. Thanks boss but if you read again what I wrote up there, probably you wouldn't need to write all this, even though I read it keenly and learnt from this write up, I would need to disassemble what I wrote up this, if u read the part that I said construction contract are not something you would always get everytime, having said that sir one will need to sustain himself when there's no work available.bringing in new innovations deals with money sir, and person wey chop na him idea fit stay for him belle. Read again sir and share if u have any other ideas.
N.B what you said up there is an eye opener for me though. I'm gonna work on it. God bless

I read your write up and I understood it.
I'm also an Engineer that's why I could grab your point easily.

Innovation deals with ideas FIRST not money! Besides, your 500k can start any idea and still sustain you.

I'm working on a particular material in construction now, which can replace modular building and less cost.

Tlontin:
Hello friends, so I just completed a project and was able to save a sum of 500,000 naira. Due to the nature of my profession, you can't tell when another contract would come by.
My question is what business can I start with 500,000 naira that will guarantee me an income of 40k monthly.thanks in advance

N.B: In as much as ideas cant be given for free, it's time to help a brother with all sincerity. No scam ideas, no ebooks, I don't want bring your money let us trade with it for you. If 40k is too much s profit on 500,000. I could stil cope with something below.

What I first noticed is the income you wanted to start generating even when you don't know the business to venture into, which isn't a good idea for a start up business.

I guess you're an Engineer, what happened to doing a research on how to replace or cost reduction of construction materials?

Somebody started hollow sand-crete block and people accepted it, what if you come up with an idea that can replace hollow sand-crete block?

Why did you study engineering if you can't use it to effect change in society?

My brother, keep your money for a while and start to think about idea you can initiate in your field.

Stop looking for quick money, idea rules the world.

Maximus85:
Guys, I don't want to waste my precious time teaching those that won't implement what is being taught. I've sent over 20 emails to those that dropped their email. I intentionally kept quiet to see those that will send me mails asking why the class has not started and I have gotten not even one mail. This is just to show that when something is free, Nigerians hardly ever take it seriously.

Importation from China to Lagos is too easy a process to hide. Wetin dey there?

And to that crypto fool talking trash... I reserve my comment on you.

That's Nigerians for you
How can one know real company in China?
emus4lifeisreal@gmail.com

Biglittlelois:
Well i'm not married yet but if he passes 80% of my checklist, anything that comes after that will be taken with levity

And on what standard do you base your checklist, God or you?

michoim:
With your lies everywhere, is what you want to use to become president?

So you mean President Buhari didn't lie before he became the President?

ifenes:
Okay who were the “ sons of gods” ?

Before you can talk about sons their must be God, so who is God? Does He has a son(s)? That would be the right first question.

ifenes:
“The Gods” not the edited version that says God. The Anunaki race who visited earth after it had been left desolate as a result of war. Besides how did they make man in their image ? Do you know how it was done ? Or do you just follow what the preacher says ?

Are you with them when the Anunaki race came to earth?

petra1:
I’ve seen many articles on the flat earth which makes some sense but the idea of giving the straight horizon flat of flat water surface etc are not convincing enough . The surface of a basket ball will still look flat in the eye of a small microorganism. So if the earth is spherical it will still look flat and the horizon will look straight because of its vastness

Not that I'm supporting flat earth but @bold statement of yours fails out of it.

There is a distance a structure at horizon supposed to vanish from eyes if earth is spherical.

So if kms of rail or road can be constructed without any curve on a globe earth then something is suspicious.

BisiLIFE:
What shape is the earth and why do you think this? If you are religious - does your holy text make any claims on the shape of the earth or earth’s cosmology?

Pls
No abuse��
Just discussion

Me?
I say the earth is FLAT��
I don’t believe we live
On a spinning balll
Spinning on its axis at 1000mph at the equator
And hurtling through space at hundreds of hours ads of miles per hour��

Body of water is ALWAYS level on the surface! Always.
The horizon ALWAYS rises to eye level no matter how high you go.
We can’t detect ANY motion. None. Yet in Naija “scientists” claim we are spinning at 1000mph���
How do we travel east at 600mph for plane (flying Naija to Asia) when, according to “science” we are spinning in that direction faster than we can fly in jumbo jet?

How does water stay ON THE SURFACE of any 3D shape - by virtue of spinning?
Gravity�
Na magik!!!
How does the atmosphere sit next to the vacuum of space and not rush into the vacuum?
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Can we replicate that with an expt? Or are we just going to believe NASA?

Last point abt NASA...
Apparently they sent man to moon (lie lie) 6 times in the 1960s and early 70s. Yet NOW, NASA claims they are UNABLE to travel past “Low earth orbit” which is only hundreds of miles away (the moon is alledgedly 240,000 miles away!!! They managed it back then but not now���?). NASA tok say that they LOST and DESTROYED that technology and can’t create it again.
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Oboy
Which technology was BETTER in the 1970s compared to today?
Pls
Just name 1.

Just 1!!!

Ok..consider the DAYTIME moon. Is it a shadow of the earth we see or the sky BEHIND the moon or THROUGH the moon? Look at EVERY flag that has a moon on it. The moon - crescent moon - ALWAYS has the background colour through the moon.

Which solid opaque object acts like the DAYTIME moon in the sky? I think the moon is a light source - we KNOW that the sun is OPPOSITE the direction of the shadow. Always. But there are times during the day when we see the moon and sun BOTH in the sky and the “shadow” is in the wrong place IF it is caused by the sun�

#ResearchFlatEarth #TheEarthIsFlat

What does your pastor or imam teach?

What does the Bible or Qu’ran teach?

Again PLEASE
no abuse - let us just discuss as mature ppl

I'm a Bible believer and I'm not against nor support Spherical or Flat weather.

But one thing my instinct tells me is that Gravity is a hoax.

When Eric asked a flat earther "why they don't argue about Mars spherical"? and the flat earther replied "we know Mars is spherical" then I know Mars cant be spherical and earth flat.

About religious Books, well as a Christian many people have used some Bible passages to throw their support for a globe earth while some passages can also be used to support flat earth but the truth is, the shape of the earth has nothing to do with the plan of God establishing it to be inhabited for living things and His plan of salvation.

So thats why nothing concerns some Pastors or Imam about shape of earth.

emmykey0128:
Baba are you related to lie momahamed? Wetin dey automatic wey person wey dey drive manual no go fit drive am I beg tell me, shey na P, d and R he no go sabi ni? I learnt driving with Manuel and automatically
I drive automatic transmission without wahala

Not about what's in automatic but how comfortable the person is with the car.

I have a friend who can drive any sort of manual car but if you ask him to drive automatic, he will tell you he can't drive it.

lonelydora:
Wrong assumption. I know quite few people who can drive manual but can't drive automatic

I totally agree with you

Before I thought it's impossible until my friend proof me wrong.

royalamour:
Wow! Kicking humans out of job.
No housing allowance, health insurance,
leave bonuses and all.

Why won't machines take over.

But this is scary, considering the apocalypse thing.

That's why you have to tap into this technology early by investing in them. PM me if you want to know more!

hopefulLandlord:
My instinct is unneeded here. what you're saying is that certain Christians pushed back against slavery but that has nothing to do with the assertion that Bible supported slavery

If you claimed Bible supported slavery and the carrier of Bible are the most people who fought against slavery. Then, your instinct ended somewhere!

hopefulLandlord:
are you agreeing or disagreeing with what I said?

Let your instinct judge my post

hopefulLandlord:
Bible is not against slavery, it infact encourages it

That's why Atheists are the one who fought against slavery when the people who are holding Bible were busy keeping slaves.

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