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achorladey:
Oga follow the instruction given concerning those questions.

I didn't say I won't follow your instructions but do you agree that Thomas called Jesus my God and Jesus didn't rebuke him for that?

achorladey:
This goes to the invited and uninvited guest, to the deep thinkers and to those who have discerning minds.
Is there any difference between the ''my God'' found in John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
And
''my God'' found in John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
A. Yes. B. No. C. Uncertain. D. Deny. Please pick the options only the question is self explanatory enough.


From Jesus' statement in John 20:17, is Jesus the Almighty God.
A. Yes B. No. C. Uncertain D. Deny

Let me start with you with this question.

Do you now accept that Thomas called Jesus my God and Jesus accepted it?

Before I answer your question.

johnw74:
[size=12]Paul the apostle when speaking of the Father, said that he "dwells in unapproachable light no man has seen or can see."
 
1Ti 6:16  Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Let me even shock you, so that you can see how perverted these Jehovah Witnesses are.

Do you know that JWs believed that 1 Timothy 6:16 was talking about Jesus Christ

Yet they can still say Jesus Christ is a created being and not God.

Wilgrea7:
well the bitter truth is that, we're still pointing fingers... we as Christians don't even know for sure... there are certain people/group of people who “seem" to have fulfilled the prophecy.. meaning, Christians have a way of twisting these prophecies to suit someone so that they can label them the Antichrist.. the current guesses over the years have been

*emperor Nero
* the roman catholic church/pope
* Islam
*Obama
*UN
etc

we're just pointing fingers... we don't really know for sure

Please remove WE and replace it with SOME

prettyboi1989:
if u need more clarification about how astronauts land from space u need to read up stuffs about the international space station, how it was built, how astronauts were transported back and forth the station to earth then u will get a vivid understanding of how rockets and space capsules work. u only need to read to gain more knowledge and not sit on ur assumptions backed by zero facts.
A rocket is needed to beat the gravitational pull/force of the earth. once in space the rocket disintegrates. anything in space floats and it will require less power than that used to enter to traverse the space.

Imaging using Space station and Moon as an example.

International Space Stations are about 249-250 miles to the Earth, then compare it to Moon of about 238,900 miles.

Exosphere is at 435 miles away from Earth's surface, which means Space stations are still within Earth atmosphere.

Do you think from Moon to Earth is just a free fall?

Febup:
Watch how they make their way back from the international space station and they have been going to the space station none stop since they started.

But why have no one gone back to the moon since 1972? This is the BIG question

Soyuz undocking, reentry and landing explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l7MM9yoxII

You didn't get it, do you?

Space stations are FEW kilometers away from earth you can't compare it with the distance of the Moon to earth.

Again, the Rocket that supposed to transport them to the Moon said to pass through a very high RAY called Van belt at HIGH Speed, please can the equipment used to pass through the ray move at the speed of a rocket to escape such contact?

Again, why would they need a rocket to pass through this ray but on their way back only to use capsule?

Febup:
The big question now is why has no other country gone back to the moon since 1972?

No! The big question is, how do they make their way back to earth?

prettyboi1989:
did u ever care to look up the components of a rocket? theres always a space re-entry capsule that is built in the rocket. this is what helps astronauts return to earth

Just listen to yourself, does this space capsule has the shooting power that a rocket had?

Or you think from Moon to earth is a free fall why would the need rocket to travel into space but only to come back with capsule

In your previous post, you tried to proof something with this

they were able to by pass through the van allen belt at high speed with little exposure to radiation
http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/apollo-rocketed-through-van-allen-belts

But does the capsule also have the rocket speed to by-pass this van allen belt?

prettyboi1989:
are u sure about that? cos usa launched explorer 1 satellite in 1958, then landed on the moon in 1969. its the job of a rocket to take payloads into space and it disintegrates once it leaves the earths orbit. surely if a rocket could launch a the first us satellite, ow come u doubting the moon landing?

The questions that remain unanswered are, how did they made their way back to the earth? Where was the rocket that took them back built?

It's easy to launch things into space but have you ever wondered how those things can find their way back to the earth?

caye:
pls can anyone answer these questions:
1. How many rockets were used to launch the Apollo into the moon?

2.How many rockets were used to bring it back after uniting with the probe from the moon surface and back?

I bet it that this your questions are mysteries to the people who landed on the moon self.

plaetton:
That is exactly the point where you keep showing your stark ignorance.
Science does not mandate every single person to keep reinventing the wheel.

Then who ask you to reinvent the wheel of any science You keep chanting ignorance whereas you're the one displaying it here.

Once a scientific idea goes through the scientific method, the empirical method, it is generally accepted , until is refuted, again using the same standard empirical methods.

How does this answer the question I ask?

We go to school to learn lessons, empirically vetted lessons that others are passing to us.
If you don't understand that, then perhaps you in particular left something behind in your evolutionary transition to homo sapien sapien.

That's what I'm saying, you learn it not that you yourself practicalized it.

Again, by asking such daft questions, you have obviously never been to a science lab, talkless of doing experiments.

Imaging, using secondary school Lab experience as a yard stick to explain the vast universe yet saying I asked a daft question.
Did you do more than mixing two chemical together

Anyone with a benefit of modern education Should have at least performed lab experiments on the basic , fundamental ideas of science.
If you didn't, sorry.
Don't blame the atheist.

SMH...please can you tell me how you perform the experiment that tells you that Man evolved from ape from your secondary school Lab

Blame your government that allows Stone-age religious Bullshytes from every corner of the middle East to take priority over basic science education in Nigerian schools.

Ok, I will! But don't forget to praise the government who allows your science teacher to assist you in carrying out that great experiment that tells you how the first life evolved in your secondary school Lab.

plaetton:
Your questions betray your ignorance.

The empirical method.
I am quite sure you missed it secondary school science.
Do yourself a favor and read up on it.

It is annoying and tiring to have to repeat and repeat to adults basic lessons and knowledge taught in primary school.

In a nutshell you still rely in somebody's understanding of the nature not your own research and experiment.

Typical Nigeria Atheist only becomes a scientist through Google

plaetton:
Do you even understand the basic ideas about evolution?

No! It's only Atheist who understands evolution

The only thing that religio- heads know about evolution is that it is an idea that they hate.

And what is the only thing that Atheist know about God, if not the idea of hatred for something that doesn't exist in their mind.

plaetton:
The books were written based on things that have been observed, experimented upon, tested and analyzed using standard, universally accepted methods.

Ahhahh

Observe, experimented, tested and analyzed by you or who?

Besides, you talk about universally accepted methods! Who are the people who defined these methods and made them acceptable

Lennycool:
Your post above reveals your ignorance about basic maters of science. Read a book other than the bible and be free from ignorance.

And who wrote those books you believe in

I guess the books came about by chance to explain nature to you

Image123:
Why do you think the OP is an apostate? He made some valid points IMHO. Stop threatening and either ignore or address his points. Is threatening a gift of righteousness or a fruit of the spirit?

That's the way they're being wired...instead of addressing the points he raised they start to tag him an apostate.

Doller2:
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olaolaking:
Please calm down since I am not here to argue who wins.

Neither do I

I am only saying what I know.

While I'm saying what I don't know baa

The English language of 50 years ago is not the same of today.

Now is it only NWT that is modern TRANSLATION At least we still have over hundreds of translation that are newer than NWT.

So if NWT is not the oldest neither the newest, why do you choose only NWT

Were you taught "thou and maketh" in modern schools?

And I can list more than 100 translations that don't contain the words thou, maketh, shouldest e.t.c, so what is big deal here

Are the other bibles condemned? NO. But that is what you think.

But do JWs accept them NO! This is what I think

Thanks

You're welcome!

Rilwayne001:
Well it's good to know that I am now your role model. It's an honor indeed.

So you're looking for a partner in console mode, guy carry play card for ad, you know I'm not in that category.

Ooh so you mean we have the now have the biblical OT as a canonical book of the Quran just like the Bible?

You confusion is something else.

It's evident that you've lost it here that's why you keep bringing irrelevant points.
You need a rest.

Now this is funny i doubt you've ever read the Hebrew Bible or the one in Greek, it's always in English. i guess the writer of Matthew wrote it originally in English language.

Still irrelevant to the issue on ground.

AyamConfidence:
look I'm done talking with you...we don't force y'all to use NWT with us...one thing is this God's word is unchanged regardless of the translations

See hypocrite, it's evident that you placed NWT above other thousands of translations we have today.

Then, why are you lying to have said "We believe the Bible is the same regardless of the translation" when in reality no version of the Bible is more accurate than NWT as to your believe.

Again, Yahweh is watching you....

olaolaking:
The only difference between the NWT and others are just the use of words.

Just imaging, please how are the words being used in other translation that make it different from NWT
Who authorized the usage, standard and accuracy of those words
You can only deceive those who are alien to Biblical understanding.

(usually modern words and easy to understand + using the original manuscript.) The message and meaning = the same

Are you saying only NWT fulls this part among thousands of translation we have today Be honest to yourself here...

Rilwayne001:
uhm! Continue consoling yourself. It's allowed

Like you usually do.

You mean like it was found in the Christian Bible?

Yes

Wow! Just wow! I must have been reading a different Quran

Since you've been reciting it only in ARABIC how will you know

AyamConfidence:
if we don't believe the Bible is one will we use other translations Think man

So you mean translation like NIV, KJV, ASV, NLT, NWT e.t.c are one no one is rated above other

We use NWT cos the English language is very easy to understand

To say this is pure highest insincerity, is it only NWT that is very easy to understand among the thousand of translation we have

Keep the lies coming

AyamConfidence:
we can use all Bible translations to discuss God's word...visit our JWLibrary app and see versions you've never come across before... They are there

Don't shift the goal post, I'm not a kid!

Using different translation to discuss God's word is different from "We believe the Bible is the same regardless of the translation..." which is your initial point.

Again, why using other different translations when you know they're inaccurate
Or let's put it this way, why do you choose NWT above other translations if you can use the same to discuss God's word?

Rilwayne001:
The thing is, you didn't get the angle from which I'm arguing from and i see no need to make you get it since you are no ready. For this reason, you can just go away, and if you won't, kindly sleep here

Imaging I didn't get your point of view

The truth is, you didn't expect it. You can't use the silent point of Christian calling Jesus God to attack Christianity when the same OT you're using was found in your Qu'ran

AyamConfidence:
as I told you before... I made my search...I found out what I practice is the truth...

This is where the point lies, how can you enforce your own personal research on us I did my own research and I found out that what I practice is the Truth. Can you beat that

I'm firmly convinced with what I know and I hold fast to the truth I learnt...truth based on facts not stories...

Then, who told you that I don't have my own fact which is based on real fact and not just stories

So I tell you this. I'm very proud to be a witness and I'll never exchange this privilege for anything

Likewise me proud to be and Evangelical Christian which I will never trade for anything.

Rilwayne001:
Kk

Anything else?

You got me right....

AyamConfidence:
see where your problem is?? We believe the Bible is the same regardless of the translation... God's word is truth John 17:17 says so

See pure lies.

So you believe the translation like NIV, KJV, AMP, ASV, ESV, YLT, NLT e.t.c just continue in your lie Yahweh is watching you.

AyamConfidence:
continue sticking with what was handed down to you...for your info... Those celebrations are not Christian

That's the problem with you people, now you can say something was handed down to me.

Please, what you're currently practicing as a JWs, how did you know about it if not that it was handed down to you by someone

AyamConfidence:
he knows the truth from God's word

Which God's word the NWT or...

it is available as long as you study the Bible to everyone

We have various Bible translation today, which one are you talking about?

The question is what you do with the knowledge of the truth you learn

NO this is not the question, you said s/he has ALREADY knows the TRUTH. So according to you, what is the TRUTH

AyamConfidence:
look here...I'm not ignorant ...I know all there is to know about the organization and guess what [size=14pt]I find no fault with it instead I've seen more reasons to stick with it[/size] so if you'll follow my advice... Google is your padi

See hypocrite! So the person you advised to check Google told you that he/she found fault with what s/he believes believe you gave that advice

Like me, I didn't find any fault with any celebration and I have seen more reason to celebrate any day, what make you different from me?

AyamConfidence:
he has not been on this thread since it made FP... Guess what...the op knows what I told him is true...

Coming back isn't an issue, the point is those quotes he made where do they come from?
First prove to me that those quote were false but the next step.

it'll be even more gentle for unbelievers on the day of God's anger than for those who know the truth, left it and want to drag followers along with them

What is the TRUTH? This is where the point lies....and please don't ignore the question