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ceejay4real:
No sir! 7 plots equal to 1 acre of land whereas 21 plots equal to 1 hectare. That means 3 acres equal to 1 hectare. Remember, all the above figures are approximates. Kindly refer to my rejoinder to the post you replied. Hope you are clear now? Cheers bro!

1 acre = 4048.825 sq.m
1 hectare = 10,000 sq.m

Now do your mathematics and show me how you arrived at 7 plots & 21 plots respectively.

How will you approximate 2.47 to 3 not even 2.5

golddust6000:
six plot make one hecter, so use your brain count the rest.

You're wrong.

6 plot = 1 acre not hectare

izzou:
Am here to learn
How many plots of land is 211,209 hectares?

2.47 acre = 1 hectare 6 plots = 1 acre
So you have over 3m plots there

Peacefullove:
The next time you address me, dont bring up JW .. for the records you ain't speaking with a JW

Ok...

and so ?

Remember the same bible also called many others like Earth, Love , Tree , Sea etc with IT , yet you would agree with me that they are not persons, are they? , So its still right that IT doesn't denote a person.

See how confused you are, your initial point was that because "IT" was used for the Holyspirit then it means He's not a person.

infact in some cases, all this figures are given personality traits despite been an IT.

Just see how absurd the BOLD sounds. You said "So its still right that IT doesn't denote a person." and you still went ahead to say "all this figures are given personality traits despite been an IT.

It's obvious that you're confused.

Besides, are you saying Holyspirit wasn't giving a personality trait in the Scripture

Now lets come back to the absurd cases you cite above before we know which group this holyspirit belongs , There are good evidences that those you mentioned above are person's on their own and thus showed how the use of grammar should be viewed when it comes to them. and holyspirit doesn't belong to this group, consider this


* The Father , the word father alone indicates this is a personality, a Person, the Jews named him Yahweh . Same when it comes to Son named Jesus, this are personality traits. , John the baptist is an human . he is a person

and when it comes to angels , many times they appeared as humans ( Just as Yeshua did ) further prove they are real persons,

Very funny, see answer below.

Can you show me one single place where either Father , Son or their angels appeared in the body form of an animal? they dont!

Reading this really shows that you lack scripture understand and it's evidently cleared that what you need is Bible study class not this unsound online jamboree.

God appeared in form of burning bush
Devil (Which is an angel) appeared in form of Snake
Holy spirit appeared in form of DOVE and Tongue of fire

What is the different Does it mean that God and Devil are not a person?

funny enough, Your God the holy spirit never for once appear as an human being, When it was sighted, it was in the bodily form of a DOVE . is that a person ? So when You see passages using IT for holyspirit, know where it belong. thats why my first post said " GO FIGURE ".

From here, one can deduce that you failed to grab the symbolic representation of these appearances rather you focus on your perverted understanding by merely seeing the animal figure not the message they passed across.

¬God appeared to Moses in form of Burning Bush indicates that Moses is ready to be empowered and equip for a mission, Fire symbolises POWER
¬Devil appeared to Evil in form of Snake indicates that the deceiver has come, Snake symbolises poisonous and terrible thing.
¬Holy spirit appeared in form of DOVE indicates Jesus comes with peace and love, DOVE symbolises Peace and Love. Appeared in form of Tongues of Fire as an empowerment on the Apostles for a mission just as God did in case of Moses.

Evident amounts in the scripture that Holyspirit is a Person as He can
¬Hear (IS God talking to Himself)
¬Has a will
¬Speak
¬Has OWN initiative
¬Intercede for believers
¬Groan
¬be sinned against
¬Gives life e.t.c

Perhaps you'll say they are all personifications but let the truth of the scripture hit your mind.

Finally, the scripture makes it clear in 2 Corin 3:17-18 that "The Lord is THE SPIRIT"

Peacefullove:
So funny , despite all the sunday jamboree, Most of you don't even read your holy book.

Numbers 11:25 , Holy spirit an IT

more-

" The Spirit it self beareth witness with our
spirit, that we are the children of God:" Rome 8:16, Can you see now ?

If this is true, then it means Jesus, you and the rest of the world are not a person since the scripture refers to them as IT

I always laugh at JWs whenever they come with flimsy excuse as this one.

I don't want to respond to your post before but it's like you see your delusion as truth and taking delight on it.

1. Gender of a word has nothing to do with identity. It has to do with the language. Gender belongs to the language of the word, not to the case of, or the object of the word.
2. Infants (Lk 1:41,44; 2:16; 18:15) and children (Mk 5:39-41) are also neuter in the Greek in exactly the same way Holy Spirit is neuter gender.
3. Girl is a neuter noun in Mt 9:24, 25; Mk 5:41, 42.
4. Angels are neuter pneuma " IT " spirits in Heb 1:14
5. Demons are neuter pneuma " IT " spirits over 45 times in scripture.
6. The word "Spirit" is feminine in Genesis 1:2: "the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters".
7. A masculine pronoun ("He" Greek: ekeinos, literal "that One" is applied to the Holy Spirit throughout the New Testament despite the fact that "Spirit" (Greek: pneuma) is neuter. Is God trying to confuse us? Or is God taking special steps to make sure we understand the Holy Spirit is a person?
8. The word spirit is frequently "neuter gender" when it refers to the Father in Jn 4:24, to Jesus in 1Cor 15:45, to baby Jesus, in Mt 2:8, 11, 13, 14, 19-21,

Such an argument displays a dismal understanding of the Greek language. So should now agree that Jehovah is not a person since a neuter word was used for Him?

People who were referred to as "IT" in the scripture:
1.Jesus is referred to as "IT" 5 times in: Mt 2:8, 11, 13, 14, 20, 21
2.John the Baptist is referred to as IT 8 times: Lk1:59, 60, 62, 63, 66, 67
3.Humans are called "it": "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. John 6:39
4.The men living in the world are called an "its" in John 14:17 " Spirit of the truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him"

I think this is enough for you and your co deceiver.

Khd95:
I'm a Muslim,I do not believe in dis "send it to eleven pple nd miracle will happen in ur life tonight"



Allah is a God of miracles nd wonders, be submissive to him that's all

ma sallam

@bold-Yet we haven't seen Allah performing any miracle or wonder on any Muslim

Hey, don't tell me that Muslims don't boast about Allah's miracles that's why. Then I'll ask, why Allah is boasting about miracles he performed through isa in your book?

Muslims and confusion are like 5&6

I thought Allah said he will send prophet Isa to the world to make Islam the one world religion before judgement day

joyandfaith:
The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force. ( Micah 3:8; Luke 1:35 ) God sends out his spirit by projecting his energy to any place to accomplish his will.— Psalm 104:30; 139:7 .
In the Bible, the word “spirit” is translated from the Hebrew word ruʹach and the Greek word
pneuʹma. Most often, those words refer to God’s active force, or holy spirit. ( Genesis 1:2 ) However, the Bible also uses those words in other senses:
Breath.— Habakkuk 2:19; Revelation 13:15 .
Wind.— Genesis 8:1; John 3:8 .
The vital, or animating, force in living creatures.— Job 34:14, 15 .
A person’s disposition or attitude.— Numbers 14:24 .
Spirit persons, including God and the angels.— 1 Kings 22:21; John 4:24 .
These meanings all share the sense of something invisible to humans that produces visible effects. Similarly, the spirit of God, “like the wind, is invisible, immaterial and powerful.”— An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, by W. E. Vine.
The Bible also refers to God’s holy spirit as his “hands” or “fingers.” ( Psalm 8:3; 19:1; Luke 11:20 ; compare Matthew 12:28 .) Just as a craftsman uses his hands and fingers to do his work, God has used his spirit to produce such results as the following:
The universe.— Psalm 33:6; Isaiah 66:1, 2 .
The Bible.— 2 Peter 1:20, 21.
The miracles performed by his ancient servants and their zealous preaching.— Luke 4:18; Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 .
The fine qualities displayed by people who obey him.— Galatians 5:22, 23 .
The holy spirit is not a person
By referring to God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. ( Exodus 15:8, 10) A craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, God’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it. ( Luke 11:13 ) The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.— Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6 .
The Bible gives the names of Jehovah God and of his Son, Jesus Christ; yet, nowhere does it name the holy spirit. ( Isaiah 42:8; Luke 1:31 ) When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” ( Acts 7:55 ) The holy spirit was God’s power in action, enabling Stephen to see the vision.
Misconceptions about the holy spirit
Misconception: The “Holy Ghost,” or holy spirit, is a person and is part of the Trinity, as stated at 1 John 5:7, 8 in the King James version of the Bible.
Fact: The King James version of the Bible includes at 1 John 5:7, 8 the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” However, researchers have found that those words were not written by the apostle John and so do not belong in the Bible. Professor Bruce M. Metzger wrote: “That these words are spurious and have no right to stand in the New Testament is certain.”— A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament.
Misconception: The Bible personifies the holy spirit, and this proves that it is a person.
Fact: The Scriptures do at times personify the holy spirit, but this does not prove that the holy spirit is a person. The Bible also personifies wisdom, death, and sin. ( Proverbs 1:20; Romans 5:17, 21 ) For example, wisdom is said to have “works” and “children,” and sin is depicted as seducing, killing, and working out covetousness.— Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35; Romans 7:8, 11 .
Similarly, when the apostle John quoted Jesus, he personified the holy spirit as a “helper” (paraclete) that would give evidence, guide, speak, hear, declare, glorify, and receive. He used masculine personal pronouns such as “he” or “him” when referring to that “helper.” ( John 16:7-15 ) However, he did so because the Greek word for “helper” ( pa·raʹkle·tos ) is a masculine noun and requires a masculine pronoun according to the rules of Greek grammar. When John referred to the holy spirit using the neuter noun pneuʹma,
he used the genderless pronoun “it.”— John 14:16, 17.
Misconception: Baptism in the name of the holy spirit proves that it is a person.
Fact: The Bible sometimes uses “name” to stand for power or authority. ( Deuteronomy 18:5, 19-22; Esther 8:10 ) This is similar to its use in the English expression “in the name of the law,” which does not mean that the law is a person. A person who is baptized “in the name of ” the holy spirit recognizes the power and role of the holy spirit in accomplishing God’s will.—
Matthew 28:19 .
Misconception: Jesus’ apostles and other early disciples believed that the holy spirit was a person.
Fact: The Bible does not say that, nor does history. The Encyclopædia Britannica states: “The definition that the Holy Spirit was a distinct divine Person . . . came at the Council of Constantinople in ad 381.” This was over 250 years after the last of the apostles had died.

Typical JWs lies copy and paste.

If Holy Spirit isn't a person then it means Jehovah is talking to himself when the Bible says: "However, when that one* comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come." NWT

Here Jesus said, "...what he hears he will speak"... which means the Holy spirit can be communicate to.

Also, here your own Bible version said, "HIS OWN INITIATIVE" Please give me just one inanimate thing that has HIS OWN INITIATIVE.

In fact in John 16 you will see many Jesus' statement that proves Holy spirit to be person.

They don't even search for anything. They just want to satisfy their unbelief.

PapiSmith:
boats have been crossing seas before the existence of Moses

and boat will convey ALL the Israelites who left Egypt when the enemies are coming after them.

Truly, Atheists are the most intelligent ones

ikp120:
This will take at least 3 years to complete.

But it's achievable unlike here in Nigeria where a 3-4 years project will last for decades.

MeenalKd:
lovely couple..Wooow

You be ambulance

pweetiedee:
No but I known his close friend....

don't ask more questions.
He is a wife beater.

@bold-That's not manly!

Lol...but why shouldn't ask more questions?

pweetiedee:
Its true.

Do you live with them

OLAADEGBU:
How soon?

As soon as possible

abosaid:
if you too can show me where that Quran verse was quoted by them.

"that Qur'an verse " Which Qur'an verse are you talking about?

All their writings are in Arabic!
All their statements are in Arabic!
They quote Qur'an for their every action.

Just show me where they make a single quote from Bible, I'm not even asking for where they hold Bible any more because that one can never happen.

Amberon:
Christianity is not Judaism. Quote the new testament for me.

Sorry, you can't excluded OT from the New Testament.

The verse he quoted was an instruction given to destroy Amalek based on what they did to Israelites.

The OT stories are DESCRIPTIVE but not PRESCRIPTIVE

That's how a typical Muslim behaves.

abosaid:
they are not Muslim because they follow what they see in bible.

So can you show us where they ever quote this verse or hold Bible in any of their videos?

abosaid:
book haram

So you mean Boko haram are Christian fighter

abosaid:
what of Christianity. check first Samuel chapter 15vs3

How many people you see quoting this verse up and down to perpetrate evil?

lepasharon:
Oui. Et toi?

Oui
Bonsoir!

jasysandra:
Please do tell me
Bien sûr Toi ?

Oui
Enchanté

jasysandra:
I really don't know why some beans take so long to cook

I can tell you while.

Parlez-vous francais?

ufuosman:
Peace is wot we really need. nice write up. I love the handwriting

That can only come from Prince of Peace Himself

Have you wondered why it's only Islam shouting peace up and down without reflecting in their religion?

stubornnn:
Wow.... Has there been a change in the situation with ur parents?

Yes, as everybody grows more!

IOAGEM:
I would like to seek for help from Engineers in the house on a road work, all efforts to lay my hand on infos that cld put me through has been abortive so far coz am nt so familiar with prices and how things work in Lagos.
1) I need to knw d cost of laying ashpalt on a road of 7m by 1.2km by 10cm thickness.
2) cost/estimate of primecoat on d road surface
3) the cost of a lateritic base of avrg 300mm thickness
4) the estimate/cost of machineries from paver/finisher,grader,roller to dump trucks.
5) the time frame (with all conditions normal) required to execute the work.
All ur contributions will be highly appreciated.

Have you seen a road designer? If No! You can get my service.

Deprofessional:
Please can some body explain in clear terms what depression is. What are the causes and any other important info.

As for me, nothing can make me kill myself. Honestly, I can never kill myself under any circumstance.

Pray it never comes your way.

I was totally depressed sometimes 2005 due to the reason that I didn't enjoy the real love from my biological parent and the only girlfriend I had then disappointed me too. So, the only thing I understand that time was that nothing special about life. Which made me took decision of committing suicide, though drinking a poisonous substance, hanging oneself, stabbing myself or using gun isn't the best option for me because I didn't even want my family to know anything my whereabout talk less of seeing my corpse. So I made up my mind to travel to an unknown remote village enter any deep forest and get killed by a wild animal. To ME then I just want to use it a punishment for my parent and everybody who I feel doesn't love me.

I wrote my suicide letter, arrange myself and traveled to OKA AKOKO a local government in Ondo State where I've never been to before. I spent five days there, with three days sleeping inside bush.

But God in His infinite mercy ministered to me by Himself. Though, I've get over it with the help of God but it has made me see life as nothing.

Those who can commit suicide can let go of anything...Emusan

olokeded:
After Lagosians experienced heavy down pour from last night till this morning. Most major roads are flooded , www.metronaija.com reader sent in these photos from Apapa, Lagos. See photos below

http://www.metronaija.com/2017/03/photos-flood-takes-over-apapalagos.html

When we in the Northern part never know the time rain will fall

mtngloetiartel:
walai u said my mind. He is the mumuest person ever existd on earth!

But I'm very sure had it been that this Pastor decided to hide this precious stone and was caught along the line and exposed, you'll be among the people calling him thief and fake pastor.

Why do people don't have conscience any more?

Smallville10:
And how much dem give d mumu pastor

Your signature says "Fear God" but your can still call a honest decision taken by this pastor a mumu.

Then which God do you want people to fear?

If this Pastor decided to hide this precious stone and was caught along the line and exposed, won't you be among the people calling him thief and fake pastor?

Pray for forgiveness brother!