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Barristter07:
For your mind you have answered , Psalm 47:2 doesnt support your error , it says Jehovah is the most high, even called him the God of Abraham ( Psalm 47:9) . . it doesn't mention JESUS.

Jesus is not the God of Abraham according to scriptures . this man
( Act 3:13)

I know your problem.

But Jesus is the King over the earth and the Most High is also the King over the earth.

So how many people are Kings over the Earth? Last time I checked, there is only one King over the earth through out the scripture and your organization proved that It's Jesus.

Let Me try and lead you back to the root of this discussion, so you could see you are speaking jargons.

Psalm 83:18 quoted earlier signified that Jehovah the MOST HIGH is a single person. . it says "YOU ALONE" in Yoruba it means " Iwo nikansoso" referring to a single person. it didnt say Both Alone " so the idea of Jehovah is the name of TWO persons which led to your silly analysis is plain error !!!


@ Boldsized, Psalm 47:2 reffered to Jehovah the Most High, the God of Abraham ( verse 9 of psalm 47) not his son Jesus Christ.

You don't even know anything.
So you think the word 'YOU' can only be use for one person Consult your English teacher.

Again, you called it silly analysis just because you're so blindfolded by the truth.
It is mathematically correct to say if:
A = B
and B = C
Then C = A
But Since you just want your JWs ideology to be true you can say Mathematical certainty is a plain error.

therefore you are yet to provide the place to support your wrong conclusion that JESUS is called Most High . its illogical , again "God is the Head of Christ " 1 Cor 11:3 . Christ is under the authority of someone Greater. which prove definitely he is not the Most High , thus cannot be Jehovah.

Imaging I haven't provided a place but I could remember you ascertain one of my point earlier.

If the Most High is exalted above all gods and the scripture says Jesus is exalted above everything, what does that mean?

Still be beating around the bush.
Is Jesus the MOST HIGH? That's the point and I won't allow you to derail from that point.

lightstone:
please what if I dnt have any legal property
can I still apply

Just apply first!

I think you can resolve that later

onyeudo234:
This is a wonderful thing, but what are the conditions like interest rate

This question hasn't been attended to.

Can someone provide answer please?

Typical Jehovah witness, you raised the point that where was Jesus called the Most High, after I answered you. You have to find another way deceiving yourself the more.

Barristter07:
All this gra gra will not help you, Psalm 47:2 is still reffering to Jehovah . which some translations substituted with " LORD " , so it still establish it that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH . the question still remains , is Jesus the most High ?

Then who says Psalm 47:2 isn't talking about Jehovah?

I believe every seeker of the truth knows the reason why I quoted Psalm 47:2

Now, why do you think I haven't answered your question when my post can be digest even by a primary school student.?

let's proceed and see if you will be able to answer this

Let's see what you have to say

@ the word "Supreme"

the Supreme court of Nigeria as an example to emphasize the meaning of the word most high . you will agree with me that the most high Court in Nigeria is THE SUPREME court . its the highest, does it sound intelligent that Supreme Court still have a Court in Nigeria greater than it is ?? abeg, if that's the case it won't be the Supreme or most High.

now, If Jesus is the SUPREME or Most High @ bold, Can the Supreme being still have a God ?
imagine the most high Saying " MY GOD " illogical!!! . you will never find such utterance from Jehovah

food for the intelligent mind!
Can the Most High / the Supreme still have A God?

Attacking strawman as usual.
The point isn't who is highest the main point here is [size=14pt]why will Jesus BE CALLED THE MOST HIGH if only Jehovah is the Most High? Does this mean Jesus and Jehovah are dragging the position of the MOST HIGH?[/size]

Of course , Jehovah is the most high .. He is the God of everyone including Jesus Christ himself . this the scripture testifies , so its fitting!

Still perambulating like footballer.

Summary!
Who is the Most High?
Jehovah is the Most High
The Most High is the king over all the earth
and Jesus Christ is the King over all the earth
Then Jesus=The Most High=Jehovah
Simple arithmetic!

the bolded part is the only reasonable part of the above post and to which I will reply.

You claimed it to be a reasonable part yet you failed to pick the actual point there, which is the reason why Jesus was called the Most High too. Hypocrite!

was Jesus exalted by someone?
why would the Most high still need someone to exalt him since he is the most high ?

Furthermore, does this not prove that the one who Exalt him is GREATER than Jesus ?
If someone is GREATER than Jesus, does that not automatically disqualify him from the title " Most High " ?

Still attacking strawman,
Psalm also said Jehovah is exalted above all gods.

Then who exalted Jehovah above these gods?

Barristter07:
brocab

with reference to the bold, which is the only reasonable question in the above post.

this is why

Psalm 83:18 stated clearly that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH , so for Jesus to be Jehovah he must be the Most HIGH .

Oga brocab ... is Jesus the most High ?

It's so dishearten seeing people who always claim to be knowledgeable and endorsed with scriptural understanding twisting the word of God as a result of the Anti-Christ spirit in them.

Let see whether Jesus is the Most High or not.

"For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth." Psalm 47:2 KJV

According to your Organization Jesus is the ideal King for God's kingdom as he(Jesus) is POWERFUL ENOUGH to help people because he(Jesus) will rule over the EARTH FROM HEAVEN. Good News Ch. 7 pg 14

Revelation calls Jesus "The King of kings"

Again, the Hebrew word for Most High is '<'elyown>' which means:
05945. Nwyle 'elyown, el-yone'
from 5927; an elevation, i.e. (adj.) lofty (compar.); as title, the Supreme:--(Most, on) high(-er, -est), upper(-most).

See how Psalmist used this for Jehovah
"For thou, LORD (Jehovah), art high above (elyown) all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods" Psalm 97:9 KJV

Yet in the New Testament it was Jesus who was exalted far above heaven and all gods.

I can give you more than three instances where Jesus was directly link with the name MOST HIGH but let me stop here and see your respond.

Unless if you want us to believe that Jesus and His Father are competing for the rank of the MOST HIGH.

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Rilwayne001:
Proof for what exactly?

@OP, that the ignorant alfa was saying amen to your pastor's prayer means nothing. And i still find it ridiculous that you are basing your assumption that muslims are now attesting to the name of Jesus on what the alleged Alfa did.

I was at LG office British area, Jos in July and there came in a man with two women on HIJAB and a little child.

Suddenly, something just fell from someone that frightened them. The next thing I could hear from one of the women was a scream of Jesus' Name. Jesus! I looked around and was very surprised even most people there. A woman on Hijab shouting Jesus' Name.

It still baffles me anytime I remember this, and it means two things: it's either she has been using that Name before or Jesus just use that to reveal Himself to them.

Jephz:
When jesus was on earth ..who did he prayed to?

To His Father....

chiraqDemon:
Earth is billions of years old.....fact.....even the bible never said 6k years tho
Evolution is true too
The bible only explained it from God's point of view which makes it seem like days and all that

And which part of the Bible did you read these from?

PiccoloBrunelli:
Oga please come and give the speech here. Stop "impregnating" other people's "wives" when your own "wife" is "barren" as fück.

But you people voted him out because you think he's impotent that's why he couldn't impregnate his wife.

Sharming95:
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analice107:
Am i giving up on you sir?

Sorry, I didn't get your point.

Wilgrea7:
evolution was never concrete... that's why its called theory of evolution and not law of evolution

But that's where your belief and origin stand upon.

SIMPLE PAST TENSE (SPaT)

The SPaT usually means that this action ended in the past.

RULE: Actions that are: -
1. Happened Quickly
2. Happened Overtime or,
3. Were habits in the past.

Example: In this examples, how these actions appear will be indicated in a bracket.
i. I arrived home at five. (Action 1)
ii. Yesterday, I worked on my Math homework for three hours. (Action 2)
iii. When he was six, my son Tolu watched the video tape '3 Idiot' every day. (Action 3)

HOW DO I MAKE SPaT statement?
Simple verb + ed or Irregular past form (if the verb is irregular)

Example: 1. Ralph called his mother to wish her happy Birthday
2. I taught (irregular verb) high school for seven years before teaching at Ben's high school.
3. Blessing and Joy studied French in college.

NEGATIVE STATEMENT & QUESTION on SPaT
NOTE: The only word used for negative statement and question of SPaT is 'DID' and under this is where simple mistakes do occur
RULE: Did + not + simple form of verb

Example on Negative: 1. I did not see Betty at the mall
2. The kids didn't eat their food at dinner tonight.

Question Example: 1. Did you wash the dishes?
2. Why did you pour oil on my cloth?

THINGS TO AVOID
Like I said earlier, people do make simple mistakes with SPaT in its negative statement and question, how?

We see people using the past verb "DID" with the same past tense of simple verb
For instance, you don't say; I didn't SAW her there, SAW is the past tense of SEE.

How to use it: i. Did I TELL (told) you about the party that Joe is having next week?
ii. I didn't DRINK (drank) coffee in college, but I DRANK it a lot in grad school.

ANOTHER WAY OF MAKING MISTAKE WITH SPaT
Another way people do make mistake with SPaT is confusing it with SIMPLE PRESENT TENSE (SPT) our first treated Tense.
For instance, QUE: when DID she arrive? ANS: She arrives around five.

Here we see a question being asked in SPaT and an answer is being given in SPT. The best answer to this question would be, She arrived around five.

CeoMYN:
Attack my points.

And whose point did I attack before?

Explain that verse to me!

Rilwayne001:
Does that make him Allah?

Yes it is since both The Spirit and Word of Allah are uncreated and only God is uncreated.

Well well, i used to hold that view before, but not any longer. Could you now please answer my question?

So you mean you were once in delusion of Muhammad in the Bible before but now you're free!

You know what start spreading the Gospel of Truth to your fellow Muslims that there was no single prophecy of Muhammad in the Holy Bible. You can begin here by open a thread to release your fellow Muslims who still hold to that delusion.

What you called question isn't a question because what I can infer from your post is a denial of truth with the word "Anonymous writer".

CeoMYN:
I was a devoted christian nigga, the type that pray every 10mins. Anywhere I go back then I always prayed with Jesu'ss name.

If this is the reason you called yourself a Christian it's very sad.

Devil and Demos know that Jesus is the Son of God, does that make them a believer?

Let me start with you with this verse by telling us how you understand it.
"Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." 1 Corin 12:3

Rilwayne001:
Lol, when was John written and who wrote it? Have you ever asked yourself these questions?

It should have been, why does Qur'an called Isa Allah's Spirit and Word?

because I could still remember how Muslims have been going up and down to proof the prophecy of the coming of Muhammad from the same book of John.

Rilwayne001:
Rather what did the anonymous writer of John mean by claiming Jesus said I am and at the same time claiming that the Jews tried to stone him so as to make it seem as if he was referring to himself as god.

Agony of Muslim brother who his book said Isa is the spirit and the word of Allah yet still thinking that it's the Author of the book of John that assigned Divinity to Jesus Christ with 'I Am'.

Let's continue...

PRESENT PROGRESSIVE TENSE, (PrPT)

RULE: 1. This action is happening RIGHT now (More generally)
2. The action is unfinished and still continuing
NOTE: Don't use PrPT with STATIVE Verb. This will be expounded later!

Example: i. You're reading a booklet about verb tenses.
ii. This is my friend Joe. He is writing a book titled 'who let the dog out?'

On a serious note, people do not make much mistake with PrPT because is one of the simplest Verb tenses but what we're going to look at in PrPT is when people used it with STATIVE VERB.

What is STATIVE Verb?
Answer: Stative verbs are verbs that do not refer to a physical action; they express a state or condition (things which are permanent or things which don't have a beginning, or end).

Example: To Adore, To agree, To believe, To promise, To image e.t.c you can get more of STATIVE verbs on net.

Now, let me say this. Some verbs can be both stative and dynamic i.e Have, Think e.t.c

You don't say for instance: I am agreeing with you, You are believing what he told you e.t.c

analice107:
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I have done that!

metronaija:
After the Kaduna state government has issued an order declaring the Islamic Movement in Nigeria (IMN) led by Ibrahim Zakzaky, an unlawful society yesterday. Some members of IMN were seen today exercising their right 2 freedom of movement, speech and expression today in Kaduna. See photos below

http://www.metronaija.com/2016/10/photos-shiite-sect-members-protest-in.html

I saw them in Zaria today too and the protest has been going on in Abuja since mid-week.

My question still remains, what did Zakzaky do? That warrants his arrest because I was in Zaria the very day when that genocide was committed against those people.

FriendChoice:


Matthew 7:21. Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'

23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

You now agree that Jesus is the one who sent Muhammad.

Jesus said and I quote [size=14pt]"whom I (Jesus) will send unto you from the Father," and "but if I (Jesus) depart, I (Jesus) will send him (Muhammad) unto"[/size]

If not explain these statements of Jesus from those verses you believed it's a reference to your prophet.

Copy and paste won't favour you.

This is how a frustrated voice use to sound.

FriendChoice:
I am very clear in my explanations, I don't have your time anymore. When other people read they will understand me. No need to waste my time anymore on you. Even when it's clear you're wrong. You closed your eyes. Bye

According to those verses you're quoting up and down.

Jesus said and I quote [size=14pt]"whom I (Jesus) will send unto you from the Father," and "but if I (Jesus) depart, I (Jesus) will send him (Muhammad) unto"[/size]

How your conscience is at rest after reading these two key points from those verses still baffles me. It shows that the covenant you have with devil is so strong than even Allah himself can deliver you from.

If you know you can't address my points one by one just say it, people will understand your delusion.

FriendChoice:
The message is clear, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is the final messenger, his message will be with you forever. No prophet God will sent again, the message of Islam will remained till here after.

So it is the MESSAGE of Muhammad that will be with you for ever not Muhammad himself any more see the way you've been scamming yourself. But the verses say THE COMFORTER and NOT the MESSAGE of the COMFORTER.

Muhammad peace be upon him was with God before Jesus left

LOL......so Muhammad actually DEVINE

. According to Bible God is father to many.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. . Roman 8:14

Stop this attitude because it's dangerous for your health and salvation.

But do you believe God as a Father which Jesus called Him in more than one verses you've been quoting since

[size=14pt]THESE ARE MY POINTS YOU FAILLED TO ADDRESS BUT ATTACKING STRAWMAN[/size]
As you name those verses:
1. "And I will pray my Father" Does Jesus have a Father?...."that he may abide with you forever" Where is Muhammad today?

[size=14pt]2. "whom I will send unto you from the Father," So Muhammad is with God before Jesus sent him to Muslims [/size] Also, "which proceedeth from the Father" Muhammad proceedeth from the Father. waoooo I don't know that God is actually a Father to Muhammad. Lastly "he shall testify of me." So Muhammad was actually a servant of Jesus testifying up and down about Him.

[size=14pt]3. "but if I depart, I will send him unto" Jesus emphasised it again that He will send Muhammad.[/size]

1. He will glorify ME(Jesus), How does Muhammad glory Jesus?
[size=14pt]2. He shall receive of MINE(Jesus), Did Muhammad receive anything from Jesus? What is that thing that belongs to Jesus that Muhammad received from Him?[/size]
3. He may abide with you FOREVER, Where is Muhammad today?
[size=14pt]4. In fact this one is most astonished among them, but if I(Jesus) depart, I(Jesus) will send him(Muhammad) unto you. Do you agree that Jesus is the one who sent Muhammad?[/size]
5. But I(Jesus) go to my FATHER, Do you believe Jesus has a Father?

I know the silly thing you'll come up with is that those verses are corrupted.

Islam is the only non Christian faith that makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus. No Muslim is Muslim if he don't believe in Jesus. Because Jesus is a Muslim and servant of Allah and he submit his will to God.


Muhammad pbum (the comforter) has come and he has testify to all mankind that Jesus the son of Mary is a servant of God.

He has testify what was revealed to Jesus that
[b] ‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.’ ( Isaiah 45:21-22,
Jonah 3:5-10 )


And says in the Perfect scripture.

(Remember) when the angels said,

“O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the
righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, the same command that had brought Adam into being with neither a father nor a mother. God has
said:

The case of Jesus with God is like the case
of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)

During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. God tells us that Jesus said:

“I have come to you with a sign from your
Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” (Quran, 3:49)

And Bible says :

"Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.



If I am going to worship any person then it will be the fatherless, motherless son of God Adam pbum, rather than a man, a servant, a slave of Allah pbum who was begotten by a woman. [/b]

[size=14pt]NOBODY ASK YOU THESE AND YOU'RE STILL PREAMBULATING[/size]

FriendChoice:
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto
you".

"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos . In the Gospel of John 14:16,
15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.

Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos.
Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name.

As you name those verses:
1. "And I will pray my Father" Does Jesus have a Father?...."that he may abide with you forever" Where is Muhammad today?

2. "whom I will send unto you from the Father," So Muhammad is with God before Jesus sent him to Muslims Also, "which proceedeth from the Father" Muhammad proceedeth from the Father. waoooo I don't know that God is actually a Father to Muhammad. Lastly "he shall testify of me." So Muhammad was actually a servant of Jesus testifying up and down about Him.

3. "but if I depart, I will send him unto" Jesus emphasised it again that He will send Muhammad.

I know the silly thing you'll come up with is that those verses are corrupted.

But let me wait and watch!

Even the Devil himself will be laughing at your darken heart; you see the truth but purposely covered it with lies.
God will have mercy on your soul.

FriendChoice:
"""""...... I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when HE , the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever HE shall hear, [that] shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come. HE SHALL GLORIFY ME: for HE shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you."


John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever"

John 16:7-14 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Let me point out many things in those verses you quoted and let's see whether you agree with it.
What the HE will do according to those verses.
1. He will glorify ME(Jesus), How does Muhammad glory Jesus?
2. He shall receive of MINE(Jesus), Did Muhammad receive anything from Jesus? What is that thing that belongs to Jesus that Muhammad received from Him?
3. He may abide with you FOREVER, Where is Muhammad today?
4. In fact this one is most astonished among them, but if I(Jesus) depart, I(Jesus) will send him(Muhammad) unto you. Do you agree that Jesus is the one who sent Muhammad?
5. But I(Jesus) go to my FATHER, Do you believe Jesus has a Father?

Who is blind is blind, only God can make him see.

The only one blind is the one who perverted the truth in the face of evidence.

And only God can make you see the truth in those verses indeed.

Rilwayne001:
Can you now see why i said arguing with you is a waste of time. As usual - as a typical christard- instead of answering the question i asked, you deviated by bringing up another thing. Covering the loopholes in Christianity by claiming Muhammad also did it. Lol.

I already told you, i won't be doing this with you since it will end up to be a futile engagement. If you have no idea to the question i asked, you could have easily shut up and find some other thread and jobless people to make do your silly argument.

Lol...it's like a Christian accusing Muslims that, how can Muhammad say he received revelation from God but God doesn't reveal things.

Let's just simply forget about this since you are not reAdy to answer my question.

I didn't see any question here.

Oh lol.. So you will be the one to tell me the question i should be asking and i have no right to ask you questions on my own? Haha. Shows that you know nothing. Just simply say you don't have the answer to my question, it's very simple

You see, simple comprehension is hard. If you're accusing Christians as having blind faith simply because they say you need Holy spirit for interpretation & understanding of the Bible, revelation & knowing true doctrine to God. We can then ask, how does their claim different from what Muhammad claimed about Qur'an and Islam?

Which automatically refer you back to my question. Must one become a Christian before one can understand, interpret the Bible in its correct form

As far as I understand, Bible was written in a human languages and expresses the mind the of God in a human understanding.
So different people have interpreted Bible both believers and unbelievers and both have come to same understanding and conclusion.

as well as receiving revelation from God and knowing the doctrines of worship that leads to the Christian god?

This part is very funny. If you as a Muslims receives revelation from Christian God the only Creator of the universe and knows the doctrines of worship that leads to Him, will you still be a Muslim

In other words you are blaming Muhammad for the blind faith Christians hold on to?

Just as you're following the blind faith your Muhammad laid down.

How did you know that? Are you there when God was revealing it? What make you believe Muhammad also didn't receive any revelation?

Yeah, this is where Christianity wins and Islam lost.
The same Spirit who revealed the mind of God to people of old, He's still in work today. That's why if you're a Christian and you haven't received revelation of God through the Holy Spirit you need to work on your faith. In fact Jesus Himself said "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." John14:21

So you can see that Christians don't have blind faith like Muslims who Allah can't reveal himself to but Christians experience spirituality through the Holy spirit everyday.

If Muhammad revelations are true it won't contradict the previous revelations.

But how did you know that those who claimed to have receive revelation from God are not lying? Do you even know these people?

As if you know Muhammad too.
That's why the Holy spirit is there. What Jesus and the apostles said many years ago can be confirmed by any Christian today through the Holy spirit. Remember, Muhammad also claimed that Holy spirit brought down the Qur'an. Now, how do you know whether what he claimed was right or wrong?

Like i said, you are trying to deviate from my point. In your attempt to cover your inability to answer my question, you are trying to introduce another argument. Sorry, i will pass.

I didn't deviate, just respond to your post accordingly.

Rilwayne001:
Doesn't Christianity based on blind faith when it claims you have to have the holy spirit before you can interpret, understand the Bible as well as receiving revelation from God and also knowing the doctrine that leads to god?

Ohhh So Muhammad own wasn't blind faith when Allah revealed and interpreted Qur'an to him through the alleged claims of the Holy spirit revelation.

The question you should've asked yourself before making statement out of frustration was, how does God reveal His will to people?

By the way, you Muslims quote Bible as you like; is it Holy Spirit that interpreted those verses to you

Now, this^ is the question that you seem not to fathom so far in my previous posts.

But your question is myopic because you forgot that Muhammad made the same claim.

What are the things that is known of God and how did you get to know them all?

God revealed them, and one of the thing is God can not lie but Muhammad said Allah is the BEST DECIEVER