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I've gone through many posts on this forum before I inferred this statement.

Different argument in Christendom can be clearly seen on this forum which has limited the Gospel of our Lord Jesus.

*The Universe is thousands of years old....no no no you're wrong universe is billions of years old. Many scriptures Will be quoted by both parties.

*God created some certain people before Adam.....no no no I disagree with you God only created Adam.

*Jesus didn't preexist His birth....stop that Bro/Sis. Jesus pre-exist His birth.

*Jesus is God......Jesus isn't God

*Christian suppose not to be paying TITHE...
Very big lie Bro/Sis. We need to be paying TITHE

*Jesus is the archangel Michael.....pure delusion Jesus is not.

*Hell and Heaven is real....you're being deceived Hell and Heaven is not real

Note: both paties will be quoting Bible verse by verse.

What can I say? Afterall the scripture cannot be broken.

I descover that it's just a means by which devil is trying to prevent the Gospel of Christ being spread.

Bible is not a book of confussion but a book to edifying and build your spiritual soul.

It is high time we Wake up and do the commandments of our Lord Jesus.

I didn't say is a bad thing to know more about what you have known but let everything be done moderately. Don't thing you know or have insight more than the other person.

Let this mind always be in you; Bible is a Book that you can make it says what ever you want it to say.
But God has made His word known to us and declared them. Everybody want to prove my doctrine is true than yours, is there any division in Christ? God forbid!

Which ever way you view your own interpretation let it be done by glorifying God with it.

The foundation has been laid which is JESUS the SAVIOUR no other foundation can be laid than this but everyone should take heed how he/she built on it.

Let's preach the Gospel of Christ and let's stop promoting religion.

May the grace of our Lord Jesus, the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy spirit be with you all.(Amen)


Shalom!

edogho: Truly. To me o,na bulls eye u hit. All dis started 4rm d 3in1 talk. 1 cor 15:27,28 just killed it. Weeds are really more than wheat just as Jesus prophesied. Helen ppl dey call demselves Christ ppl Make I sidon dey read again jor.

I know you won't see anything wrong with this post.

I agree with the quote of that Chorithians but what happen to that of Malachi?

Malachi 3:1 "I will send my messenger who shall prepare a way before ME...."

Who is that ME?
Is God that is talking or Jesus?


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Romanciella: hez a prophet nd nt a 'god' u xtianx re always making it seem lyk hex d 1 u re pin which ix nt ryt..hex prophet (a.s)...¥m jst saying¥

You're not just saying but it's what your Book says. Op has described how his own Book describes Jesus the saviour.

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Freksy: "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" John 4:24 KJV

"God is a spirit" = God is invisible to human sight

OPTION "F": That which is invisible.

Depending on the context, "spirit" can also be translated to mean any of the things you earlier listed.

Now that you've chosen option F,

Then the text can read "God an invisible to human eyes, those that worship Him must
worworship him in an invisible to human eyes and in truth" hope I didn't miss the road? Remeber 'is' is not in the original text.

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Which one are will not going to see in christedom.....

Imagine some group say Jesus didn't pre-exist His birth.....

Another group His angel Micheal....

Another group He didn't die....

In Rev 12:7 Michael and his angels fought with that dragon....before it was cast out from heaven....and they overcame the dragon(devil).

How did they overcome the devil?

They overcame him by the BLOOD of the LAMB meaning they applied the blood of the lamb....who is this LAMB? Jesus!

Then how Jesus will be Michael?

Apart from this there this verse people always overlook about Jesus.....1Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of Angels (include Micheal) preached unto the gentiles, believed on the world, recieved up into glory." Emphasis added......

Some versions have removed the God @bold, some replaced it with He......but Apostle Paul made it clear that it's a mystery of godliness.

Again God told Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD, and beside ME there is no saviour(even in angels)." Emphasis added

But I believe we all agreed today that Jesus is the saviour of the world....how come when God said "....beside Him there is no saviour"

People engage much in copy and paste work rather than sitting down and study the word of God.


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JMAN05: good. the word was God, not that the word "was THE God". as far as the last God has no definite article, in greek, the two Gods are different.

But you agreed that the word is Jesus, how many God do you know in the Bible?

again. John 1:1 KJV
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
did you notice it says 'the word was WITH God'?

Yes the word was with God because He's the owner of His word.

can you be the same person you are WITH?

My word always with me.
Jesus is the word of God.

of course, the world came into existence THROUGH him. who did it through him?

Hebrews 1:2 KJV
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by (or thru) whom also he made the worlds;

read 1cor. 8:6 for more.

Jesus was the first creation of God, after which God created all things thru him.

Colossians 1:15-16 KJV
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: [16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Thank God you agree that the worlds was created through Him. Now according to Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" without/by/through anybody....right?

Then, How did God create the world through/by Jesus? I need honest answer with Biblical passage(s).

No need of tearing a clear truth. read between the lines.

I do; just do as you also commanded!


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JMAN05: Read above very well.

You people have started again hmmmm

according to you above, you quoted John 1:1 that Jesus was called "the word" but fail to admit the same verse which says "..and the word was God."

If Jesus was called "the word" and the WORD was God and you still claim Jesus was created and His the angel Michael...do you see anything wrong with this statement?

Jesus made it clear that He was before the foundation of the universe....then is angel Michael was before the existence of the universe?

John 1:10 made it clear that Jesus is God...."He(Jesus) was in the world, and the world was made by(through) Him(Jesus), and the world knew Him(Jesus) not".

Anti-deity of Jesus should tear this verse in their Bible then I will know you're serious wilthyour claim.

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NL member: I'm guessing he touched you with his hand, what part of your body did he touch?

Wrong, all over my body.

Did anything else happen?

I speak in tongues

Did he just walk into your house, extend his hand to touch you then turn around and walk away without saying anything?

My door was locked during my prayer He walked in from the door without open it and I begin to feel His movement toward me. Long story sha....

I really wish you'd stop being so vague and just write everything that happened in details.

i can't now because I'm using phone to chart.


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RationalDude: * For what reason did he visit you?
* Was he physically present in the same room as you? (emphasis on the "physically"
It's not enough for you to just say God visited you while you were praying, you have to give more info than that. Thanks.

See Jamb question....lol

I was praying and I invite His presence and God decided to show His presence....that's all.

Not physically alright....I'm using phone now by the time get on system maybe I will explain better.


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NL member: No no, don't shalom yet.

What happened during your encounter with god? Did he talk to you? Or touch you?
What did he look like?

Touch

NL member: What happened when god visited you?

Overflow joy in my inner mind continues till now.


Shalom!

God has visited me personally in my room 2005 & 2008 I wasn't in a trance nor dream but while I was praying. Very sweet to experience God's presence than reading Holy Bible only.

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bolaino: thanks sire, although I am not saying I am now a christian ooo, but I respect everybody and every's religion,

You're welcome Sir, but I'm not after religion rather after the salvation of your soul. Thank God for that anyway.....

Shalom!

Now you've renounced atheism, ask God to reveal Himself to you as a real evidence of His existence with a pure heart and in faith which I believe He will surely do so.

Heaven rejoices over a soul that repented.


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Logicboy03: Lol and you think that the universe is in space?

Space is in the universe.....dont promote ignorance

Brother pls it's time for you to leave your copy and paste work and begin to reason for yourself as a true freethinker.

If universe is not in space, why does it expand?
Going by the way of big bang the point of singularity before explosion occurs, exist where/what hold it?

Another one from LB,


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Logicboy03: Show me a real life application of infinity. Infinity does not exist.. Space is finite. That is clear

Is it not you that make this @bold point?

Logicboy03: Fail.......space is limited to the universe in terms of spacetime. The two universe would have different spacetimes. What would bridge the two universes would be wormholes not space.



Infinities are paradoxes. They dont have existence in real life. Only measurements and abstract concepts are infinite.


Your God is infinitely powerful meaning he doesnt exist

See best answers from a freethinker...... Logicboy na wa ooooo

OLAADEGBU: Identifying Antichrists
September 18, 2013

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time" (1 John 2:18 ).
Evangelicals expect “the” Antichrist to be revealed in the future, yet there are more warnings about “many” antichrists who are currently and actively plotting evil. John lists two specific identifying factors that enable us to spot these “anti” Christs.

“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son” (1 John 2:22).

“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist . . . and even now already is it in the world” (1 John 4:3).

This much is clear. Anyone who refuses to accept the incarnated Christ as the Son of God is anti-Christ. Perhaps we need to see this term in its simplicity. Those who are “anti” Christ (oppose, reject, against, opposite to, before, instead of, in place of) are antichrists!

Peter warns that false prophets and false teachers are also “anti” Christ—and that they may well come from among the Lord’s visible Kingdom.

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction” (2 Peter 2:1).

Thus, we are told that Satan’s “ministers also [are] transformed as the ministers of righteousness” (2 Corinthians 11:15). No wonder we should have caution. This is the last time (days), and we need to be alert! HMM III

For more . . . .

Nice one!

nwuyag: tnx, i will look onto that...
so what about siamese twins and I know dt hermaphrodytes choose their gender before operation?

The best verse that talk about that is verse 23;
look at it again 23 "And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body."

At this phrase "even we ourselves groan/suffer within ourselves" talks about mutation that do occur in DNA that can lead to siamane twins or any abnormal creatures. But the next verses give us hope..,....but all things work good together for those who truely love God.......


The Word of God can not be broken by fallible mind of human.


Shalom!

nwuyag: why doea the bible now always seem to reveal itself like a fairy tail which a 4th grade student of this generation knows its not true.
I was reading the creation story and cannot actually where hermaphrodytes fall into. also, the geography I did taught me dt the light we see is the light of the sun, so how did God create light on the 1st day, then create sun later, where was the light coming from? and if that, then what was the purpose of the sun??. pls I need help(rational). I am still stuck in genesis

If you're a true christian I believe these verses should help; Romans 8:20-23 "20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body."

Remember the word "GROAN" means suffering from.
About the first light I will the light is JESUS because He is the firstborn of all creations and He is the light of the world. Though you may not agree with me but that is my own point.


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ooman: @bold-my point is still made, you believe in god cos of your delusions, not because of your profession. Besides, there is really nothing in engineering itself that might make you doubt your white master jesus, since another white master laid the foundation of everything you know in engineering. You dont apply your reasoning, you have no reason to.

I said God reveals Himself to me you still call it delusion hmmmm,


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ooman: most professions are already secular. Finance, Engineering, ICT, Law etc, these are already secular jobs that make you forget gods and focus on what matters.

Unless you wanna be a Minister of Atheism specifically, I think most jobs, excluding the religious jobs, are secular enough

Ooman how have you been quite a long time?

I'm an enginner the more I study engineering the more I love God not even because of my profession but because God has revealed Himself to me that makes me believe on Him. So matter profession i study that can change me.

Shalom!

omonori1: 2. The Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says,"marry only one".

The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’.
There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures,
whether it be the Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives.
According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later,
that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.
In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives.
It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one.

I don't have problem with Q'uran but just because you haven't read other books or ask the right person a confuse question shouldn't give you a final thought of your question.

Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, [size=15pt]the husband of one wife,[/size] having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

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Logicboy03: Most christians (inlcuding Olaadegbu) should be banned from writing about atheism.

Shoooooo

They dont even understand the word "disbelief"...not to even talk of even understanding atheism.

Abi na, it's only atheist that do understand everything. Afterall "Atheism is a belief that there's no God".

Olaadegbu can not even understand how his fellow christians do not even believe his "there and back" hell tales.

The likes of Frosbel, Logicboy and co!

Sir, you are not qualified to talk about atheism

Do you also qualify to about Christianity?

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Uyi Iredia: God,

Thank you for the gift of life, made the more valuable by the loss in death. I also want to know whether I'm correct in assuming you are the [size]space[/size] withing which all things exist. I want you to grant me this wish: that all men may live life forever and in happiness.

Good day,
Iredia.


That's my letter. A tricky letter. Especially at the happiness_noy the space_part.

@bold-pls Uyi, what if God visit you in your room/speak to you one on one; will you still think God is space?


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macof: Realistically speaking no gods or spiritual being can talk directly except through dreams/visions, divination or prayers

Almighty God can speak and you will hear him only if you haven't walked in His way.


Shalom!

Here is the answer to your question.

Jesus Himself comfirmed the vision of Daniel about the end of the world.

Daniel 12:7 "And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished."

Jesus comfirmed the @bold in His statement in Matt 24:14
Matt 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

So with the help of you and others preaching the Gospel of Christ on the streets, public buses, schools, internet e.t.c the day is getting more nearer.


Shalom!

I love this tread so much, I'm a typical Yoruba who love everything about my culture. I was brought up in a christian home though my grandparent were paganism before they converted to christianity...I mixed both paganism and christianity up when I was small but since God Almighty has revealled Himself to me....I realise that paganism is a path to hell. Though like ifa and some other gods are good or taught about how to live a peaceful life but Devil(Esu) is very wise in His own way of dealing with human being.


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I wonder when christians will stop all these and begin to do the right thing commanded by our Lord Jesus.


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Uyi Iredia: I believe it said this
:

Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a molecule that ENCODES the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and many viruses.



You are correct. Perry Marshall also corrected his argument stating that the code is the sequence of nucleobases attached to the DNA. In any case, that's nitpicking, more so since the article makes the same error. The DNA has a code (ie. the sequence of nucleobases on it) for amino acids and hence proteins.

Don't mind them all they know what you're talking about but decided to bent the truth.


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dead2sin: I read Emusan piece on another thread about information, could this be part of what emusan was trying to emphasisie?

Absolutely yes! I remember everything went the way it was @Uyi's link.

Actually, is not nature itself that confused me in believing in God Almighty but God has manifested Himself to me. I was just trying to let our freethinker to know the hand of God in our universe.


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@OP I'm so impress on these your questions, how I wish all christians can search their mind deep down and ask themself these questions.

I was born into a christian home but there was a time I almost fall away from grace because of some questions on reality in nature our finite mind beg answers to and as someone who loves science, but instead of allowing myself to be deluded on what I believe. I pray to God to manifest Himself to me which He did.

I really thank God because if not maybe I would've become an atheist.

So I believe in God because God manifest Himself to me.

My question is since you join christian what step(s) are you taking to see the manifestation of God? To me science has confirmed God in many ways.


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