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ooman: Why callest thou onto me?

I am always here, and i look forward to the day god will be totally rid off the human community!

I callest thou just to know how you're feeling man

Just always remember me in your prayer when your testimony comes.

honeychild: How intelligent and enlightened.

So far we have seen people who hold Ph.ds in biochemistry, geology, theoretical physics, a kidney specialist, a quantum physicist and a professor of neurophysiology.

Ooman, when you have achieved even a fraction of their academic achievements, then you can feel free to comment on the state of their minds.

Haven't you noticed that the more intelligent atheists: mazaje, plaetton, your big brother and hero logicboy have left this thread alone?

Don't mind Ooman........jare he's a professor that's why!

ooman: and the evidence you have for that is some deluded scientists right?

its high time you started thinking about who designed the god who designed you.

Ooman Ooman where are thou?

Your testimony of such is on the way.......just remember me in your prayer when it fully comes.

JMAN05: Capitalization is the concept of the translator, not the original.

Jesus is God but not almighty God.

But to understand you. what is your definition of trinity?

Are you saying that Jesus was Godman, ie he was still God almighty while on earth?

@bold
If Jesus Christ is God but not Almighty God, how many God do you have then?
Even Isaiah says He is Almighty likewise Revelation
Your own logic worst pass Trinitarian.

The major misconceptions about God it's manifestation in three ways. God is one but He has manifested Himself in three ways.

God.....is the Father Himself
Son......the spoken WORD of Father whom the Father sent into the world in the person of Jesus (that's why Jesus posesses all the attributes of the Father)
HolySpirit......is the Spirit of the Father Himself.

God has power to change His own word into being and exalted Him, likewise He has the power to put His own Spirit into action/sent forth His own spirit unlike human being

This can be illustrated to a man whose his loved one wanted to travel and the man said "I will go with you in spirit" what will happen is that he(man) will only keep the person in mind simply because he didn't have the power to send his own spirit to monitor the person. But God can do both at the same time.

Note: this is what I have understood about Trinity....I'm not argue or make you subscribe to my own point but if you people can read Bible without copy and paste work on net then you will know Trinity exist.

Shalom!

Empiree: My early pos was meant to show you that islam define the mystery easily. . However, we believe that Angels are spirits. According to Quran, each human being has spirits by their right and left sides. The one on the right writes down our good deeds. While left spirit writes down bad deeds. They are by our sides since we were born. And they will depart when we die. But this are not the spirit christians are referring to. These left and right side spirits can not be seen and they are not God. God created them. I hope you understand islamic perspective here.

@bold to be in line with intent of Op,
Is God;
*a spirit
*a being
*a force...?

Or for simplicity, what is God as per Islam?

A passenger has made an emergency landing
at Humberside Airport after the plane's pilot
became ill.
During the flight, the pilot made a distress call
when he became so sick he was unable to
continuing flying the light aircraft.
Two flight instructors were called in to talk to
the passenger from the ground while he took
control of the plane, an airport spokesman
said.
The man had very limited flying experience and
had never landed an aircraft before.
Despite this, he managed to successfully land
at the North Lincolnshire airport just after
7.30pm.
"The passenger flew over the airport a couple
of times and then was talked down by two
flight instructors and the emergency services
were waiting for them when he landed safely,"
the airport spokesman said.
Details of the pilot's condition are not known
at this stage, police said.
The light aircraft took off from Sandtoft
Airfield, near Doncaster, for training with one
passenger.

Source: skynews

ifeness: You are dull because you refuse to think.

Like you better than some people here.......

How can you worship a god you cannot prove its existence?

Who told you God cannot be proved?

you are sick!

From a Rational mind.


Have you ever ask yourself, what makes people change overtime?

Many Christian have changed to atheism and other religions, like many atheist have become Christian........

Then, what is the missing link?

Ohibenemma: I strongly disagree with RoyPCAIN; Jesus is alive, TODAY, as clearly shown in the bible and as is evident in our lives today.

I join this thread bcod of this statement, no Muslims can prove this wrong even Jesus' deity.

Shalom!

Empiree: @ Emusan, No, sir. the son of mary doesn't have such Attributes. God can not, will not and is not equal to His creation.

I now understand the area you're talking from. Sorry those attributes are not in your book.
Try to read Bible yourself.

Shalom!

Empiree: You guys seem confused. I think you really need to define "God" first. His functions etc. I can help you guys. God is a Supreme Being that created the whole universe including man and jinn and angel. God is He who created seen and unseen. And this God is One. God is not restricted to certain location and God can not be seen at all on this earth. God Has no limit. Hes everywhere (by His Knowledge). God is close to us than our jagular vein. God does not have a God or anyone to command Him. He alone commands. "He" (God) does not sleep nor slumber. He is Eternal and Absolute and Self Sufficient. God can not be in His creation. He is above seven Heaven. God can not be tempted. God is not born and He doesn't begets either. Jesus on the other hand is a full human being. Born of virgin Mary. Completely separate from his Creator, God. In another word, Jesus was a prophet of God. Spirits are Angels. Therefore, they too, are God's creation. This is islam definition of God from His creation. I hope this clear the air. Pls forgive me for jumping into your discussion. I thought it was necessary. Thank you

Brother you're too foward. Try to understand Op point of view. Does Jesus not also posess the above attributes?

Shalom!

fckmn24seg: march 28, forever Aries

Too far ...

Mintayo: interesting,i wanted to say that before but i just wanted to hear what you will say next...
it was never recorded in the Bible...
but how come you finish reading t in three days??
Was it on your phone? If yes,where can i download it?

Yes it was on my phone; even the version I read declare that Jesus died but other versions have change the text. Anyway it's another version of Bible sha....re-mix version!

Mintayo: And did you believe that? Did you believe it?

The problem is I couldn't find such miracle from the book they copy it from. I mean Bible!

Mintayo: huh?? Pls elucidate!

It is in the Quran sura 2:259 try to read quran yourself very sweet and

I read the in just three days

The only miracle that was performed by Allah is when Ezekiel died for 100years and Allah raised him up from dead.

macof: Jesus is still alive today , I believe that but so is Sango and all my ancesstors.

Jesus came and died, went back to where he came from. Good point. But that applies for every living entity. We all have duties to play here on earth, we would all definitely go back to where we came from, just like Jesus, whether u believe in the Jew or not, it doesn't matter.

And yes am angry at the use of that word because u rather than use a Hebrew word as ur signature prefix, u should use a word of ur own language

OK Sir I have heard you. ....let's pay attention @Op.....heh

Lol....you're angry because I'm using SHALOM.,.wonder shall never end. Just try to bear it with me pls.


Shalom!

macof: evry religion claims to be eternal, a continuous system of life, even Buddhism dat tries to end reincarnation, rather introduce reinvention. after being reinvented that's still not the end of Buddhism, as long as u have life u most seek knowledge. That's just a point to show that other religions have a more solid claim to eternal existence.

I know sir, but Jesus is still alive today so everything has cleared by me.

And whatu exactly do u people gain by raising urself above other religions? u are just a Jewish slave nothing more but probably something even less. Ur use of "shalom" proves alot

Thanks Sir:

Who am I to raise myself above other religion?
But the truth still remain; Jesus has come and died, and went back to where He was before, it's let for poeple to make their choice.

So using Shalom now is making you angry.....I'm sorry for that but it simply means " Peace"

Shalom!

Uyi Iredia: I ask because usually a belief in God s associated with religion. For a couple of months, I have rejected Christianity and proclaimed deism whilst intent on switching soon to yet another stance for a while. But then, I want to ask everyone in particular Christians and Muslims.

Yea! All started with our Fathers who live right from when human race begins.....I mean religion.

• If your religion (or way of life for Christians Bible reading, praise/worship, Holy Communion etc, for Muslims, Koran reading, Ramadan, tarawijd) died today, would you believe in God ?

Don't be shocked with my point here, if Christianity died today that'd be the end of the world....

Is it compulsory that prophets eg Muhammad (PBUH) or Jesus (The Son of God) must come before we assume a Creator behind Nature ?

People of ages have known God exists but Christ only came to redeem us from death caused by First Man.

What problems do you find with people who disbelieve in organised religion irrespective of stance ?

No problem, I just always praye for them so that God can shine His light on them. Like I always say if not that God has revealed HIMSELF to me I might be the one in position of LB or Ooman today.

answers are welcome.

OK!

Edited (because of answers about Christianity being a 'way of life' and not a religion)

Well to me oooo

Christianity is not even a "way of life" because it limited its everlasting reign (I mean life itself). I will only say you're right when you say is a "way to life etenal".

Way of life to me means a guide on how people should live their life" which many religion practice, and If this is true then the LAWs are Ok then but to God the case is differrent which has made Him sent a SAVIOUR.


Shalom!

lanrexlan: It's up to you.Do you believe God is for all people or Israel alone?

No! after He has created the heaven and the earth He now handed it over to Muslim's God and became God of Abraham, Isaac, and Isreal(Jacob) alone.

Because I see you missed that part. Genesis 1:1

No reply again, because you know Quran can't survive without Bible.

Shalom!

lanrexlan: My good sire,if you remembered what I said what that if we remove some attributes given to God in the bible,then we can come to that conclusion.God should be the Lord of all people and not Israel alone as displayed by some verses of the Bible.....Peace

This is a serious issue....to you now you've given the best reply. Smh

Now that these attributes are still there what will happen?

omonori1: i said that contains a phrase ''marry only one''
what are you saying...by the way you totally quote your bible out of context!!

Did you read and understand the first sentence of that verse? "If any be Blameless...."

Another verse like that is 1 Corin 7:27 "Are thou bound unto a wife? Seek not to be loosed......"

So with these verses it's very clear on one wife .

Shalom!

lanrexlan: The biblical god is the god of Israel.
Psalm 106:48 (NIV) -Praise be to the LORD,the God of Israel,from everlasting to everlasting.Let all the people say,Amen! Praise the LORD.

Amos 3:1-2 (NIV) -Hear this word the LORD has spoken against you,O people of Israel--against the whole family I brought up out of Egypt.You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth;therefore I will punish you for all your sins.

2 Chronicles 6:4 (NIV) -Then he said:Praise be to the LORD,the God of Israel,who with his hands has fulfilled what he promised with his mouth to my father David.

Deuteronomy 33:29 (NIV) -Blessed are you, O Israel! Who is like you,a people saved by the LORD? He is your shield and helper and your glorious sword.Your enemies will cower before you,and you will trample down their high places.
But Allah(swt) is the lord of Mankind.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah An-Anbiyaa 21:92 -Truly! This,your Ummah [Religion (Islamic Monotheism)] is one religion,and I am your Lord,therefore worship Me (Alone)
Surah Al-Faitha 1:2 -All the praises and thanks be to Allah,the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind,jinns and all that exists).....Peace

I can't just stop laughing! Were you not the one who spent more than a day arguing that Christian and Muslim are serving the same God?

That Bible prophecy the coming of Muhammad...

God will save us.


Shalom!

Pastor Olu T: I am good my brother, and I believe u are too!
Would really appreciate ur input in this too 'cos of the controversies arising!

Yes; by His grace!
Actually in comparison of Old Covenant and the New Covenant people usually mixed them up. why? because BIBLE was divided into two. Testament/Covenant are the same thing but the whole OT was not centered on Covenant as the name implies; Rather it contains both chronological event of creations, the fall of man, the chosen one, prophecies, laws e.t.c but today what we see is people relating all the written of the OT to LAW (though the OT sometimes refers to as LAW). Apostle Paul said something (I couldn't remember the verse again maybe later) that "the LAW was added for the PROMISE to come".

The question now is; how can we seperate law(s) from other message(s)? what are the importance or purpose of the rest of the message(s)?

The OT have been categorized into four groups namely;
The Torah-The first five books of the Old Testament
The History books-The next 12 books
The Poetical books or, simply, the Writings-The five books that follow the history books
The Prophets--The final 17 books of the Old Testament

Here, the LAW only falls into the category of "Torah & Historical Event" and God purposely added it for the promise to come according to Paul's statement. Then, the poetical & Prophetic Books has something to add to the whole scriptures, meaning their not laws but corrections on the part of people and the next plan of God toward man

I believe by the time we christian begin to view Bible this way then we'll be able to understand the real message the Bible is passing to us.

Shalom!

Freksy: Anyone who is sincere-hearted would know you have not addressed my post. Go through it again and tell me what you have refuted.

"I am come in my Father’s name..." - John 5:43; 8:29. KJV

"And he that sent me is with me ... for I do always those things that please him". - John 8:29 KJV


1. Did God not come representatively?

2. He that represented God, and acted perfectly according to His instructions, and delivered His message to us, can be described as God's messenger, true or false?

I would appreciate it if you answer the above questions.

My first quote of you is to clear that Heb 1:5 which you misinterpreted.
My point here is to clear that Jesus is not an Angel according to the OP. If you want to talk about Jesus being God or not, create another thread.

Hope is clear that Heb 1:5 makes Jesus not an Angel?

Beside I didn't deny your all your quote above.

Shalom!

italo: Oh! You dont even know if the Pope has said exactly what you said. I guess you just dont like to be associated with the CATHOLIC Pope.

Okay, sorry, you sound contrary to the Pope.

Just my view on NL by the way I never heard such a thing from Pope before.

Shalom!

Pastor Olu T: Going over threads and listening to different arguments, I am moved to open this thread. Some believe that we still have to hold on to the law of Moses despite the new covenant, while some say this is not important because we have a new and better covenant.
So this thread is opened to interested parties to come and establish their believes according to the scriptures. This is not to argue but for we all to learn!

pastor how are you doing?

9jadelta: what is logical about living in a fish? how is that even possible ?

A Cninese woman survive miraculously when a big container fell on her car.......To everybody there, anyone inside the car must surely die.

Note: She didn't prepare for it

The thread is still on FP with many pics as evident, How can you explain this?

I know you people always run away from such type of thread

Very soon the whole Bible Itself will soon turn to Allegory by some Body....just wait and see.

Shalom!

macof: just answer my question

No...

but don't derail my point on both Heb 1:5 and Isaiah 40:3 as in my post above.


Shalom!