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Jossbab27:
It is written in the BIBLE ......where GOD told Moses ... remove ur sandal that u are in the Holy land....day is the point of reference.... To the Bear foot...even the Cherubium.... usually put on sandal but remove it before entering into the church premises....



All reference to the Bible.... nothing is hidden...No the truth and it shall set u free...


According to the GRAIL message....in the light of truth.... separate ur self from all darkness of life....

God told Moses to remove his sandals because the place Moses stood was a holy place.

The instruction was for Moses and not for Pa Oshofa neither was the land in Nigeria.
After that instruction , Moses and the Israelites did not go bare footed, they wore their sandals :

Deuteronomy 29:5 KJV
And I have led you forty years in the wilderness: your clothes are not waxen old upon you, and thy shoe is not waxen old upon thy foot.

Even Jesus did not go bare footed , so why is your own church different ?

Does your prayer garments make the ground holy, whenever the garment is on your body, and when you put it off , the ground becomes normal?

My friend , it is a bad omen to dream of walking barefooted.

Jossbab27:
The eye oftenly means....in Yoruba..."OJU OLUWA WOO EE... the eye of Jesus is looking at u....be u do good or bad...,
No matter the church.... If you have realized that Christ name is used to called it....do not tanish it lmage....
The Bible Said,"do not judge "

That is what you think but it is not so. As long as you can see that sign being used by agents of darkness , you should know that it is of the devil.
Even the Igbo ritualists or harbalist use it by painting one of their eyes white . Why ?

Another question you need to ask yourself is , 'why do your members go about barefooted when in their prayer gown ' ?

Pls , ignorance is not an excuse to excape hell , a satanist is a satanist , whether ignorant or not.

Allah is not satan but a blood sucking demon working for satan.
That is my belief , but certainly not God Almighty the God of Abraham , Isaac and Israel the King of kings and Lord of lords.

The truth is very bitter.

I pray the Muslims can learn from that Christian Prince guy and leave that hell of a religion before it gets too late for them , in the name of Jesus.

Pls , leave that satanic place of worship , it will take you to hell.

Just take look at its logo ,that is , the rainbow and the EYE . Why the 'eye' ?

All Satan worshippers use that eye symbol in their logos , for example , the Illuminati.

If you love your soul , just run far away from that house of satan and go for a deliverance.

May God guide and deliver you , in the name of Jesus.

The death of Jesus is not only for those that came after his death, it covers even Adam and Eve :


John 5:26-29 KJV
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
[27] And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. [28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the GRAVES shall hear his voice,
[29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

That is God's own church.

Maximus69:
@bolded is a misconception please!

One with God doesn't literally mean in the same level with God

It connotes readiness to align/conform one's thought to harmonise with whatever God decides! This is not easy because God's thoughts are far higher than that of any of his creatures {Isaiah 55:9} that's why Jesus begged his father and God to do something regarding his execution but he was ever ready to accept whatever God decides! Matthew 26:39

For instance in a prayer, Jesus begged God to help his followers so that they too will become one with God and himself just as he and his father{God} are one! John 17:20-23

If your analogy is correct, then all those who truly believe in Jesus will be in the same level with God!

You may not know what it truly means but the Jews understood what it means and Jesus himself did not deny it :

John 10:30-39 KJV
I and my Father are one.
[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. [32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
[39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Op , is a Creator not a God ?

According to your Quran is Jesus not a Creator coAllah SWT said:

وَرَسُولًا إِلٰى بَنِىٓ إِسْرٰٓءِيلَ أَنِّى قَدْ جِئْتُكُمْ بِئَايَةٍ مِّنْ رَّبِّكُمْ ۖ أَنِّىٓ أَخْلُقُ لَكُمْ مِّنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ فَأَنْفُخُ فِيهِ فَيَكُونُ طَيْرًۢا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَأُبْرِئُ الْأَكْمَهَ وَالْأَبْرَصَ وَأُحْىِ الْمَوْتٰى بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَأُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِمَا تَأْكُلُونَ وَمَا تَدَّخِرُونَ فِى بُيُوتِكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ فِى ذٰلِكَ لَءَايَةً لَّكُمْ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ مُّؤْمِنِينَ
"And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 49)

Which prophet , man or science has ever created a living thing with breathe of life from non living things ?
As advanced as people rate science , has it been able to give sight or eyes to the blind ?

Jesus did all these and much more . This makes him God , since he could create a bird from clay and raised the dead which had rotten or decayed.

Op , your problem is lack of spiritual understanding.

Even the old testaments called Jesus a God :

Isaiah 7:14 KJV
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23 KJV
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Finally , to be 'one' with God means to be in the same level with God . Jesus said this severally that he and his Father are ONE. So , stop accusing Paul of the originator of calling Jesus a God.
There is no book of book of the new testament that did not testify to the truth that Jesus is a God .

A lion would always give birth to a lion and not a goat , simple as that.

Abdulgaffar22:
Yes, we can be 100% sure that God really exist. See the proof below



PREMISE 1; Something must be eternal


Why ; If there is absolutely 'NOTHING' in the long past, then there is no way we can have 'SOMETHING' at this present time because something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing. Therefore, something must be eternal i:e always exist and infinitely old. So what is this very something that is eternal ?


There are only two options; Universe itself or any invisible Being outside the Universe. Let depicts any invisible Being outside the Universe as God.
Of course it would not make sense to assume that both God and Universe are eternal. So only one thing must be eternal.

Now how are we to know which one is eternal ? Is it Universe that is eternal or is it God that is eternal?


PREMISE 2 ; Anything that is ETERNAL (i:e something that is always exist and infinitely old) would not have a CHANGING characteristic.


Why; for anything to CHANGE, an EXTERNAL cause is required to trigger this change. But as we have established above in premise 1, only one thing (i:e either Universe or God) must be eternal. Therefore, in the long past, nothing exist except this ETERNAL entity. Consequently, there was no any external cause that can trigger a change in this ETERNAL entity. Hence, anything that is ETERNAL would not have a "changing" characteristic.


OBJECTION ; Why is it only an EXTERNAL cause that can trigger a change in an eternal entity ? What of internal cause within the eternal entity ?



REPLY ; if "all the cause" necessary to trigger a change in an eternal entity is INTERNAL (i:e already present inside the entity), then no change would be observed because the final state would always precede the initial state.
For an illustration, let assume that three drops of an indicator (i:e all the necessary cause) is required to CHANGE the colour of an alkali from colourless to pink. That is to say, immediately I finished dropping the third drop, the color will suddenly change from colourless to pink. You will agree with me that "all the three drops" are EXTERNAL CAUSE (i:e outside the alkali). Now if all the three drops of indicator is already inside the alkali right from the beginning of its production (i:e INTERNAL CAUSE), then the INITIAL color of the alkali would be pink instead of colorless. So "changing" from colorless (INITIAL) to pink (FINAL) would never be observed because the initial color of alkali is already pink not colorless. That is to say, the final state has preceded the initial state. Yet for a CHANGE to occur, the initial state must always precede the final state.
Therefore, it is only an EXTERNAL cause that can trigger a change in an eternal entity ( or anything )

But there was no any external cause that can trigger a change in an ETERNAL entity because in the long past nothing exist beside this eternal entity. Hence, anything that is ETERNAL would not have a "changing" characteristic.



PREMISE 3 ; Universe (or nature) has a CHANGING characteristic.


Why; In the long past, no part of Universe (or nature) can see, can hear, can speak, can think and can move voluntarily . But now some part of the Universe (i:e human beings) can see, can hear, can speak different languages, can think and can move voluntarily. Therefore, Universe has undergone a drastic CHANGE.

Hence, follows from Premise 2, Universe is not eternal because of its CHANGING characteristic.

But we have already established from Premise 1 that "SOMETHING (i:e either Universe or God )" must be eternal. And since universe is not eternal because of its CHANGING characteristic, then God must be eternal.

But are we 100% sure that this very God actually exist ? If God does not actually exist, then Premise 1 would be wrong because nothing would be eternal. Remember that we have already proved that Universe is not eternal. Hence, if God is also not eternal due to His non existence, then Premise 1 would be wrong.

But Premise 1 is perfectly true. Therefore, God must actually exist.

That is a good one , but have you thought of where you will spend your eternity ?
It is of no use to know there is an eternal God with whom you can spend your eternity with in enjoyments and peace but end up spending your eternity in pains and anguishes.

How can God first cast people into hell to suffer them b4 deciding to save them ? Does that make sense to you ?

It is unfortunate that is what your Muhammad said ::

Narrated By Abu Huraira
The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?"

He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As- Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man will be left between Hell and Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. He will be facing Hell, and will say, 'O Allah! Turn my face from the fire as its wind has dried me and its steam has burnt me.' Allah will ask him, "Will you ask for anything more in case this favour is granted to you?' He will say, "No by Your (Honour) Power!" And he will give to his Lord (Allah) what he will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then turn his face from the Fire. When he will face Paradise and will see its charm, he will remain quiet as long as Allah will. He then will say, 'O my Lord! Let me go to the gate of Paradise.' Allah will ask him, 'Didn't you give pledges and make covenants (to the effect) that you would not ask for anything more than what you requested at first?' He will say, 'O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched, amongst Your creatures.' Allah will say, 'If this request is granted, will you then ask for anything else?...

This should be more of your concern , since you are certain there is God.

kaydee:
So it's wrong to dance in Church? Or God specifically required a dance pattern that we don't know about? How did David dance? I need answers

It is worldliness to copy the dance steps or pattern of dance of the unbelievers .
That is part of yoking with the world.

That is a step in the right direction to stop worldliness in the church , but , it should not stop there.

The church should teach its congregations biblical morals that would shape their lives within and outside the church. It is of no use dancing decently like angels in church and dancing indecently like children of the devil outside the church.
That is necessary b4 they become full-time time hypocrites bringing the curse of God upon the church :

Matthew 23:27-28 KJV
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
[28] Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

jcross19:
you are the most confused here simple question I asked where in the bible Jesus called himself God? except He says Me and My father are one meaning Jesus was trying to explained the type of relationship between him and God . now listen Jesus divinity was strictly considered by the meeting of so called church Fathers in year 6th century ACE that was the time Jesus was considered devine . but to me Jesus is my lord and my savior but the truth is that there is God that sit on the throne.

You want to know where in the Bible Jesus called himself God?

Here are the places :

Revelation 1:8-11 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
[11] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


Probably you did not read this below scriptures b4 . Jesus was accused of calling himself God by saying 'he and his Father are one' . Jesus did not deny this :

John 10:32-39 KJV
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [
37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
[39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

If you still don't believe :
John 1:1-2 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.

I wouldn't have bothered myself contributing to this thread if it wasn't for the unbeliever that commented earlier. The reason being , whether we believe the divinity of Jesus or not ,when we get to heaven we shall know.
And I know the Scriptures cannot be broken.

@jcross19.

You are the one very confused here. There is nothing hard to understand here.

It is the blood of you father that runs in you .

Jesus told the Pharisees that he was the child of God on earth and they wanted to stone him. Why ?
Because they understood him clearly. This is even written in the Bible , so what is it that is too hard for you to understand ?

Is a baby lion not a lion ?

In the book of Revelation , Jesus Christ called himself God Almighty . Isn't that in your Bible as well ?

What about this :


John 1:1-4 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was GOD.
[2] The same was in the beginning WITH God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

These scriptures means , Jesus ( the word ) was in the beginning with God and he is God just like his Father.

Abdulgaffar22:
1. Jesus was praying to the Father and he said; "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent (John 17:3)" . If Jesus himself was referring to another person (i:e the Father) as the "ONLY true God" , then how could Jesus be God ? If Jesus did not use the word "ONLY", then hopefully the Christians might still want to argue that Jesus is also another true God just like his Father. However, the word "ONLY" used by Jesus will continue to shatter the hope of those who want to believe that Jesus is God.

2. Similarly in John 20:17, Jesus was reported to have said “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God”. If Jesus is God Almighty, then which God was he referring to when he said ; "my God and your God" ? Can God Almighty have another God?

3. Also Luke 6:12 says "He (Jesus) went out to the mountain side to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God" . If Jesus is God, who was he praying to? Was he praying to himself ?

4. Similarly, in John 14:28, Jesus said: “My Father is GREATER THAN I”. If Jesus is Almighty God, why is he having someone greater than him? Can anybody be greater than Almighty God?

5. Again in Mark 10:17-18 says as follows ; "Now as He was going out on the road, one came running, knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?” So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.”.
If Jesus is God, why did he reject being called “good” and then submit that all goodness belongs only to God?

6. Furthermore, in John 14:1, Jesus said “let not your heart be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me”. Remember Jesus did NOT say: "you believe in Father, believe also in me". He said : "you believe in God, believe also in me”. Therefore, if Jesus is God, why did he clearly distinguish himself from God?

7. Again, in Matthew 24:36, Jesus said; “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but ONLY THE FATHER”. If Jesus is God, why did he confess his lack of knowledge about the Day of Judgment and then submit that the knowledge of that day belongs only to the Father? Can God be lacking anything as regard to knowledge?

You are partially right to say there is One God greater than Jesus Christ but wrong to say Jesus is not God Almighty.
For Example :
We have one President in Nigeria who is greater than everyone but that does not make him the only president.
A vice President is also a President .

Jesus Christ created a bird using ordinary mud , according to you Quran , that makes him a God because no one can give BRAETH to a non living thing for it to become a living thing , accept God.

Jesus never disputed the fact that he has a Father and that the Father is greater than him and that Father is his God. Likewise , Jesus confirms that he is a son of God and that he is God like the Father :

John 10:32-39 KJV
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; [36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
[39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Revelation 1:8,11,17-18 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[11] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
[18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Yes. From the beginnings God had women in mind as part of His creations.

God created the animals b4 He created man , and animals were created in male and female for reproductive purposes. Definitely , He would have known that there is a need for a woman for reproductive purposes as well.

Genesis 1:26-28 KJV
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; MALE and FEMALE created he them.
[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Abdulgaffar22:
Enilove


You refused to explain how Christianity conform with my premises.

If you believed that God can establish all those CEREMONIAL mode of worship for the followers of Moses why do you think it is idolatry for such mode of worship to be established for followers of Muhammad ? God has promised to send a prophet LIKE MOSES in Deuteronomy 18:18. So such ceremonial mode of worship in the message brought by Muhammad should not be strange to us.

Are those premises God's or yours ?

You cannot set a wrong question and expect a right answer. First get spiritual understanding and not what you perceive to be right :

Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
[6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

It is a dangerous and disastrous journey if you don't allow God to lead you because :

Proverbs 16:25 KJV
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Can you please answer the question @Paabakp asked you ?

Op , the sacrifices in the book of Leviticus were done according to the dictates of God for God.

These people ( Israelites ) were never called idol worshippers . Whether one believes their God or not is a personal opinion. But what is certain which makes me to believe the God of the Israelites is His show of power by DIVIDING THE RED SEA. This was not done by God for the Arabs but for the Israelites. All the miracles done in Egypt by God for the Israelites could only be done by God .
Whatever the prophet through whom God did these miracles says should be followed . That is why the Israelites never doubted Moses.

But as for the Arabs , the hadith's confirm to it that the idol worshippers used to tawaf the kabaah and used to worship the black stone which is placed in the wall of the kabaah till today.
It is only idol worshippers that worshiped the moon and stars. Islam has embraced this too.


God did not create any religion . It was man that created religion when they lost their fellowship with God in the garden of Eden.
When man lost that relationship , the first religion man got engaged into was WITHCRAFTS .
So , the first and oldest religion is witchcrafts. That was why God had to destroy that generation.

The reason why we have Judaism and those blood sacrifices is to prepare mankind for the coming of the Messiah in order to reconcile man with God.
And since the life is in the blood , there is need for blood sacrifice pending the coming the blood sacrifice which cannot be traced to the blood of Adam ( cursed ).

Now that Jesus has shed his blood for our sin by reconciling us back to God , anyone who fails to accept that sacrifice is doomed for eternity.

Matthew 26:28-29 KJV
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
[29] But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Colossians 1:19-22 KJV
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say , whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
[21] And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
[22] In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:


I was a Muslim , so I can tell you the great differences between the two religion is life and death.

Why don't you just forget about which religion is right or wrong and call on God your Creator to reveal Himself to you.

1dasam:
This is the most important question you need to answer. I was raised in a Muslim family, although my immediate family is Christian. I am open to both religions, but I really need to express love for one. I'm a born again Christian.
If you think differently, let's hear you.
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Islam is the straight part.
Allah SWT said:

اهْدِنَا الصِّرٰطَ الْمُسْتَقِيمَ
"Guide us to the straight path -"
(QS. Al-Faatiha 1: Verse 6)

But Christianity is the STRAIT part to heaven which is for the FEW :

Matthew 7:13-15 KJV
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


Muhammad and his followers thought the Bible part above was STRAIGHT not knowing the scriptures .
That was why they mentioned straight instead of STRAIT .
They had copies of the Bible from which they got all the biblical stories which they included in quran

Narrated By Abdullah bin Umar
Sahih Bukharin:

The jews came to Allah's Apostle and mentioned to him that a man and a lady among them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah's Apostle said to them, "What do you find in the Torah regarding the Rajam?" They replied, "We only disgrace and flog them with stripes." 'Abdullah bin Salam said to them, 'You have told a lie the penalty of Rajam is in the Torah.' They brought the Torah and opened it. One of them put his hand over the verse of the Rajam and read what was before and after it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, "Lift up your hand." Where he lifted it there appeared the verse of the Rajam.

So they said, "O Muhammad! He has said the truth, the verse of the Rajam is in it (Torah)." Then Allah's Apostle ordered that the two persons (guilty of illegal sexual intercourse) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned, and I saw the man bending over the woman so as to protect her from the stones.

Abdulgaffar22:
Enilove


God knew very well that Satan will incite some people to establish all other false religions which would cause people to DEVIATE from original Islam (believing in oneness of God and submitting to the will of God at any particular point in time). For example, Hindus believe in many gods, Buddhists believe that there is no need to believe in any God or gods. Christians believe that God is three in one or one in three. Atheists believe that there is no God. Therefore, there is need for God to correct all these false teachings invented by Satan. This is one of the reasons God sent the Holy Qur'an through His last prophet to bring the humanity back to the original track. So prophet Muhammad is not a founder of Islam but a REVIVER of Islam.

You are not sincere with yourself .
Did you not include in your premises or conditions that a true religion should come first to incorporate all mankind?
If the people are always going astray and there is need for God to bring in a last prophet to get them back to track , what makes you to think the people with not again backslide the way their forefathers did ?
Has inequities and sins not abound now and far greater than the time of Noah ?
What is so special about the Quran that Moses would not be able to deliver ?

To know the truth , you must study the Quran on your own , there and then , you will know the truth.

For example , the Quran says Moses was the first Muslim :


Allah SWT said:

وَلَمَّا جَآءَ مُوسٰى لِمِيقٰتِنَا وَكَلَّمَهُۥ رَبُّهُۥ قَالَ رَبِّ أَرِنِىٓ أَنْظُرْ إِلَيْكَ ۚ قَالَ لَنْ تَرٰىنِى وَلٰكِنِ انْظُرْ إِلَى الْجَبَلِ فَإِنِ اسْتَقَرَّ مَكَانَهُۥ فَسَوْفَ تَرٰىنِى ۚ فَلَمَّا تَجَلّٰى رَبُّهُۥ لِلْجَبَلِ جَعَلَهُۥ دَكًّا وَخَرَّ مُوسٰى صَعِقًا ۚ فَلَمَّآ أَفَاقَ قَالَ سُبْحٰنَكَ تُبْتُ إِلَيْكَ وَأَنَا۠ أَوَّلُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You. [Allah] said, You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me. But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 143)

Why did God not tell him to build mosques , perform ablutions , tawaf the kabaah , stone the devil , kiss the black etc.

The truth is that Islam is nothing but idolatry.
It was conceived in idolatry . All the rituals of the idol worshippers are performed by the Muslims nowadays.

The pagans used to walk 7 times round the kabaah .They used to kiss and worship the black stone which is the meteorite they said fell from heaven.
They used to run between Safa and marwa hills etc.

Why these ?

You need prayers for your spiritual eyes to be opened.

Abdulgaffar22:
Maximus69 and Enilove


Here is another logical analysis to recognized the only true faith approved by God for humanity


Premise 1: Any true faith from God designed for humanity must have been in existence from the beginning of creation of the first human being.



Premise 2: Any true faith from God designed for humanity must be within the reach of every human being irrespective of the place and time of his (her) existence.



Premise 3: Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Confucianism, Taoism, Sikhism, Jainism (etc ) GOT THEIR NAMES from the names (or locality) of their founders. Since their founders are not the first set of human being on earth, all these religions could not have been in existence from beginning. Therefore, they all FAILED to conform with Premise 1. Again, all these religions (or faiths) are not within the reach of every human being. Therefore, they also FAILED to conform with Premise 2.



Therefore, we are left with Christianity and Islam.



Before you can become a sincere Christian, you must believe in ATONING WORK OF JESUS ON THE CROSS for your salvation.
Furthermore, according to Christianity, Jesus is the ONLY TRUE WAY to reach God( John14:6). But many generations of human being have lived and died BEFORE the arrival of Jesus and BEFORE his death on the cross.
Hence, most of the PAST generations of human being are not opportuned to hear about Jesus and his atoning work on the cross; let alone believing in him as their Savior.

Therefore, Christianity also FAILED to conform with Premise 1 and Premise 2 because it was not started at the beginning and it is not within the reach of every human being.



But what about Islam ? Islam simply means "Submission to the will of God at any point in time (see Qur'an 2:112).

Those who submit in this manner are called Muslims.

If the past generations of human being;
1. Believe in the the existence of one God (which God has made known to every intelligent human being) and
2. Engage in righteous acts and forsake the sinful acts ( which God has also made known to all human being through their conscience), then they have already become Muslims (submitters to the will of God) even if they NEVER heard about any special revelation from God.


It is not written in the Qur'an that believing in Muhammad is the ONLY way as it is written in the Bible that Jesus is the ONLY way to reach God (John 14:6). So it is possible for the past generations of human being to become Muslims ( like Abraham, Moses etc) WITHOUT believing in Qur'an since it was yet to be revealed .

Believing in Qur'an is ONLY a condition for the present human beings to become Muslims since it has now been revealed.

So being a Muslim just depend on submitting to the will of God base on what God has revealed at any particular point in time.


Hence, Islam is not the religion of the Qur'an alone, nor is the name of a faith started by prophet Muhammad. Rather, ISLAM (i:e submission to God's will) is the NAME of the faith ever brought by all the true prophets of God. Therefore, Islam conform with Premise 1 and Premise 2.

This is the reason why Qur'an 3:19 declare as follows;

"Verily the only religion in the sight of God is Islam"

Do you think it is just a COINCIDENCE for Qur'an to contain this very verse while all other religious scriptures do not contain the names of their religion talk less of saying their religions are from God ?



Now state with reason which of the three premises is not true ?

If people that lived b4 Muhammad were Muslims , what then is the essence of the coming of Muhammad since those people could attain the works of salvation by their mere submission to God?

Abdulgaffar22:
Maximus69

But how could you have judged the truthfulness or falsehood of one faith simply by bad behavior of some of its adherents ? If I am judging
the entire Christianity base on how some pastors are impregnating their female followers, would you agree with me ?

Despite the fact that I implored you for the sake of God to pinpoint what is actually wrong with my premises, you still refuse to do so. Yet if something is false, there is no way it can agree with true premises that follow each other deductively. Can it ?

Well let me turn the table round to the only logic you believe it works. Please set it out in form of premises of argument so that everyone can see its workability.

You are wrong in your premises.

God is the Creator of the animals but did not name them. He gave that assignment to Adam / Man :

Genesis 2:19-20 KJV
And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
[20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

You better leave Islam b4 it gets too late for you.

You have been told the truth many times b4 , but you love lies and darkness more than thruth and light.

Abdulgaffar22:
@ Sagenaija
Premise 1; killing of innocent and righteous human being is a SINFUL ACT. Otherwise, God would not have forbidden it (Exodus 20:13, Matthew 19:18)

Premise 2; Jesus is an innocent and righteous human being.

Premise 3; Therefore, the alleged killing of Jesus on the cross is a SINFUL ACT.

Please which of the three premises cited above is not correct for the sake of God ?

Now if the killing of Jesus on the cross is a sinful act, then it CAN NEVER ATONE FOR ANOTHER SINFUL ACT; let alone all the sinful acts of all humanity.
IT IS ONLY AN ACT OF PURE RIGHTEOUSNESS( which itself does not need any atonement) THAT CAN ATONE FOR SINFUL ACTS.
Such acts of righteousness which has God used in the PAST to atone for sinful acts of humanity include the following;
# Animal sacrifice (see Leviticus 16:20-30),
# Sincere repentance ( see Ezekiel 18:20-22, Isaiah 55:7, Jeremiah 36:3 Ezekiel 33:10-16, ),
# Forgiving other people's faults ( see Matthew 6:14, Mark 11:25, Luke 6:37),
# Devotional prayer (see 1st Kings 8:46-50, 2nd Chronicles 7:14 ),
# Fasting (see Jonah 3:5-10 )
# Giving of charity and showing mercy to the poor (see Exodus 30:15-16, Numbers 31:50, Daniel 4:27 ).
# God's infinite mercy (see Psalms 78:36-39, Isaiah 43:23-25).
Please for God'sake open and read all these biblical verses cited just above and see how God has been using these PURE RIGHTEOUS ACTS to atone for the sins of His people before the arrival of Jesus Christ.

Life is a process and in stages.

The death of Jesus is a sacrifice that is a must to escape the second death.
Those who died according to Isiah did not escape the second death. They were under the earth with father Abraham ( Abraham's Bosom ) waiting for the saviour to save them from the second death or final judgement.

Preferences :
John 5:25-29 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
[26] For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
[27] And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
[28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
[29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

This is no contradiction with the book of Ezekiel. Those who did good will hear the voice of Jesus in their grave before ascending to heaven.

Ephesians 4:8-10 KJV
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
[9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
[10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

I VERY SURE , IF YOU DIE AS A MUSLIM , YOU ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL BECAUSE SALVATION IS THROUGH ISAAC ( JEW ) AND NOT ISHMAEL ( ARAB ).

John 4:22-24 KJV
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Shinjitsu:
Islam is the religion of the devil all they do is kill, rape and do drug


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