Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 1:03pm On Aug 29, 2018 |
openmine: However the same law condemned others not born of the Jewish race! Gentiles for instance!
The same law made a priest or levite to NOT help anyone at a point of death except their own family members! King David was an ardent follower of the law to its letter yet he committed first adultery and murder! The law in its glamour was never perfect and never brought man closer to God! At a stage,the law created more sin than righteousness in man!
Hence God created a new covenant where Jesus was made the high priest!
Hebrews 7:11-13 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the LAW given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the LAW must be CHANGED also.
Hebrews 7: 18 The former regulation is set aside because it was WEAK and USELESS (for the LAW made nothing perfect), and a BETTER HOPE is introduced, by which WE DRAW NEAR TO GOD!
God even made it easier for us by giving us the law of LOVE!
We can try as much as we can but we can't observe ALL 614 LAWS OF MOSES without stumbling on one! So , a Christian can go against these laws ? Leviticus 18:5-11,22-23 KJV Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord . [6] None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the Lord . [7] The unclothedness of thy father, or the unclothedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her unclothedness. [8] The unclothedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's unclothedness. [9] The unclothedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their unclothedness thou shalt not uncover. [10] The unclothedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their unclothedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own unclothedness. [11] The unclothedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her unclothedness. [22] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Are they to be followed by Christians or not ? I just need a "yes" or "no' for answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 12:33pm On Aug 29, 2018 |
openmine: This is almost similar to the scripture in Galatians 5:19-21 but the scripture went further by indicating the law of Christ!
Galatians 5:22-26 But the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things THERE IS NO LAW. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceit
In other words,when you know the fruits of the spirit,you don't need the law as a guide!
Do you know that knowledge of the law gave rise to more sins? Do you also know that the law was not meant for the righteous!
1 timothy 1:8-11 We know that the law is good if one uses it PROPERLY. We also know that the law is made NOT for the RIGHTEOUS but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.
I ask again,do you need the law of moses to stop you from committing filthiness or covetousness or becoming an idolaters? What you need is the fruit of the spirit! Yes , although it might be difficult. But the law of killing doves and others cannot save or take one to heaven. Remember , b4 Jesus Christ came , the law was their guide and some of them were righteous and holy. But needed to accept Jesus' death to proceed further. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slap Any Comedian That Cracks Jokes Against Jesus – Apostle Suleiman by enilove(m): 12:22pm On Aug 29, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: I wasn't talking about allowing them crack jokes of whatever kind in Church.
That should never be allowed.
But they can do whatever they like elsewhere, even though we done approve of it. That was what Apostle Suleiman was talking against . Check the last statement posted by the OP. I mean the second to the last paragraph . He mentioned "alter". |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 11:48am On Aug 29, 2018 |
Goshen360: Yes ! How does one know which of the sins one has committed? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 11:47am On Aug 29, 2018 |
openmine: I already answered the question by adding other words,check my latest writings...sorry for the mix up! Christ only made emphasis to the law of adultery....because for sin to take place,a thought must have been in force...Hence,he was only making further explanations to the law not adding another!
Sorry bro...Unfortunately, your answer is wrong and insufficient! That's because scriptures have been used to show that observance of the law only makes rubbish of the finished work on the cross!
Reference : Galatians 2 Galatians 5:22-23 Romans 10:4 Hebrews 7:13
Do you believe that there was a new covenant of which Jesus is the high priest?
Sorry bro.....that explanation is only an emphasis and not a new law created by Christ! secondly,the laws was given to the Jews and not believers! believers were given the law of Christ where Love is the only law given! U don't need the law to stop you from committing adultery! You don't need the law to stop you from sinning... You don't need the law to stop you from killing..... What you need is Christ perfect law which is LOVE!
first of all, do you have scripture to prove or show that there are some laws that we observe and some laws that were abolished or not done? What about burning of incense? I have heard this narrative for a very long time and its already stale....unfortunately, am yet to see or get a scripture that proves this analogy of yours...Please can you kindly provide scripture to prove this? Thank you!
the scripture that I provided to you says the laws were set aside because it was weak and useless!
Paul and james also made reference to those who observe some laws while leaving out others by stating clearly in Galatians 3:2 and james 2:10-12 respectively that you are guilty of all the laws if you only observe SOME while leaving out the OTHERS.
Salvation is a state....perfection is a walk! salvation is also a gift from God to a believer!
Its obvious for a Christian to go back to its vomit...but that doesn't mean he is condemned forever! Even peter sinned but later repented after being chastised by Paul for neglecting the gentiles simply because he wanted to be seen as righteous in the sight of the Jews Galatians 1
Question...ever since you gave your life to christ,have you ever sinned? Are these not what the law says ? Ephesians 5:3-5 KJV But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; [4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. [5] For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 11:34am On Aug 29, 2018 |
Goshen360: OMG!
There is soooooo much mixture in what you saying and it's against the new testament teaching and the reason you are still not getting it is simply MIXTURE.
When Christ was talking to the scribes and Pharisees....these are custodians of the law and so when he said the disciple's righteousness should or must surpass that of the scribes and Pharisees....he wasn't talking about RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW...which was what the scribes and Pharisees was performing. Christ was talking about RIGHTEOUSNESS that's imputted to you NOT BASED ON PERFORMANCE TO THE LAW.
That's the righteousness from God not what you did by obeying some sets of rules.
Romans 10v3-5 talks about RIGHTEOUSNESS of the law vs imputted righteousness of Christ Can a christian fall into sin or not? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slap Any Comedian That Cracks Jokes Against Jesus – Apostle Suleiman by enilove(m): 11:22am On Aug 29, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Sorry Apostle Suleiman, this is false teaching.
We are Christians and children of God, not children of darkness who go about defending their corrupt prophet with violence. Vengeance is His, not ours. Let Him deal with them Himself. I can bet that He will be merciful unto them, as He has always been, until the day of judgment.
If we go about slapping everyone who criticize Jesus, do you think there will be anyone for us to save? I'm glad I'm not in the Middle East where your head can fall off just for questioning a questionable prophet who beheaded 600 Jews in one night. He even converted, married and had sex with a woman after he beheaded her brother, father and husband that same night.
Comedians can keep cracking their jokes about Jesus. Their judgment is in the hands of God. I agree there is no need to slap any comedian that disrespects the name of our Lord Jesus , but I disagree with you on the point that we should let them continue to crack their jokes about Jesus in the church. The church is not an entertainment ground. It is a house of prayer and not a club house. If they want to crack jokes they should go somewhere else. Ephesians 5:4 KJV [4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 10:56am On Aug 29, 2018 |
openmine: sorry for asking a question for your question but was Jesus under the law of moses before he died? Did he observe the laws of moses while he was in his human body? Your reply will answer your question... Secondly there is no need for us to be derail the purpose of discus.... The question is.....do believers still observe or must they use the laws of moses as a justification or as a guide? Why are you avoiding such simple question? Let me answer your question regarding whether believers should use the law of Moses as a justification or not. My answer is Yes and more. The Pharisees were counted as holy as per the laws, and Jesus told us to surpass their righteousness. A believer should not commit sins which the Pharisees did not commit . Matthew 5:27-28 KJV Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: [28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Because you are a believer does not mean you can commit fornication or adultery. Not being under the law means not under the statutes to kill goat , birds etc for atonements. It is those blood sacrifices we are exonerated from but not law of Sin, because Jesus Christ has been made a sacrifice for us. Let me ask you another question ; Can a Christian sin or not ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: This In Fact Is The Highest Mystery Of All Time And The Greatest Earth Wonder by enilove(m): 10:18am On Aug 29, 2018 |
lightblazingnow: Psalms 51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.
Before this statement, there was to be an initiation, a creation, forgiveness, blotting out iniquities and total mercy. Listen, it was the father God Almighty and CHRIST JESUS having a lifetime talk, heart to heart, the deep called to the deep. Read more
Psalms 51:7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. 51:8 Make me to hear joy and gladness; that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice.
51:9 Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities. 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.
After the whole process, the son Jesus Christ said to his father, after you have done all of these, I will be qualified to bring sinner's and transgressers to you father. Most of you say you are going out to win souls for Christ Jesus and God Almighty, you don't understand, we are laughing so hard, he that sit in heaven shall laugh"
2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
You have not had any proper baptism of God Almighty, you've not been initiated into the trinity, you have not been born of water and the Spirit. How then did you enter into the kingdom of God Almighty to start bringing people into the kingdom of God Almighty. Dangerous mission, impossible task. Read again very carefully and learn the process.
Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? Psalm 51 is not a conversation between God the Father and Jesus Christ. This was the prayer of King David when prophet Nathan came to him after David committed adultery with another man's wife. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 9:45am On Aug 29, 2018 |
openmine: Good morning!
You cannot choose which law to obey and which law to leave out!
The law of moses is holist and trying to pick one to obey is being guilty of the other laws of moses! Galatians 5:1-3 James 2:10-12
The scripture u put down actually validates the scripture that I stated..
Question is what is "fulfillment" in the Matthew 5:17?
Why did romans 13:8-12 emphasis the SUMMATION of ALL the laws of moses into ONE SINGLE LAW which is LOVE?
Now let's understand the word fulfillment and how it was used in both Matthew 5:17 and romans 13:8-12
Based on strong man's dictionary, the Greek name for fulfill is plēroō
which means "bring to completion", "to accomplish a purpose".... other definitions of pleroo have different meanings in the scripture but knowing their usage will enable you understand its direction!
So when Christ said he was "fulfilling" the laws,he was actually meant bringing the law to it's completion,or accomplishing the purpose of the law....
Hence Love was a "completion of the laws of moses" based on romans 13:8-10 In other words,the law has accomplished its purpose hence has been brought to completion.... giving rise to a better law which is LOVE!
This is made more explicit when you read Galatians 3:23-29
ONE OF(IF NOT) the purpose of the coming of Christ was to bring to completion the laws and practices of moses...hence,it was unwise of him to "abolish" it at that point in time until his death and resurrection!
If Christ did not abolish the law like you said,why did the scripture regard the law of moses as imperfect, weak and obsolete... even useless in Hebrews 7:11-28
Hebrews 7:18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the LAW made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
Also remember that the no scripture is of private interpretation.... any scripture rendered must have its corresponding scripture for comprehension!
if I may ask..... Do we use the blood of goats and cows as sin offering? Do we circumcise? Do we burn incense based on the laws of moses?
James said in James 2:10-11
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of BREAKING ALL OF IT. For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.
.....and to correct some impressions alluded to... Ananias and his wife lied to keep some money which eventually led to their death but that was because they wanted to look "right" before God and men! This is what the law brings or creates...."self-righteousness"
Had they known about the love of God,they would have offered what they had without having to lie! ....and besides,peter told him it was Ananias money and he was at leisure to give or not to give!
The scripture in Galatians 5 that you quoted also is actually a follow up of the post law era where the "Christ law" is now our guardian instead of the laws of moses! Galatians 6:2;5:22-23 Like I said initially,start reading Galatians 1-5 for better understanding of how the law gave way to the law of the spirit of life!
Galatians 5:22-23 Ephesians 2 Hebrews 7,8,9 Galatians 5 Is this a law or not : Matthew 5:27-28 KJV Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: [28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Apostle Suleman Condemns Comedians That Joke About Jesus by enilove(m): 8:01am On Aug 29, 2018 |
It is the Pastor that invited the comedian that needed to be given a blow on his head , so that he can think right. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 2:24am On Aug 29, 2018 |
malvisguy212: Jesus came to solve the problems of sin, the law say " thou shall not kill" . so what causes murder ?
in this verses Jesus is talking about the intents of the law:
Matthew 5 :21-22
Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is ANGRY with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Anger cause murder, so instead of " thou shall not kill" Jesus command us not to be angry with our brother. These your post just confirms that the laws are not abolished but upgraded : Matthew 5:20-22 KJV For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. [21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: [22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. AND B4 THESE VERSES JESUS SAID HIS PRESENCE WAS NOT TO ABOLISH THE LAWS BUT TO FULFILL THEM. HE ALSO CAUTIONED US NOT TO TEACH OTHER WISE. Matthew 5:17-19 KJV Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 1:39am On Aug 29, 2018*. Modified: 2:11am On Aug 29, 2018 |
openmine: Roman 13:8-10
You don't need the law of moses to stop you from killing or committing murder....What you need is AGAPE LOVE!
The love of God! Jesus did not say that other laws are now abolished. He only emphasized the importance of love in our lives : Matthew 5:17-19 KJV Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus told us that he did not come to abolish the laws. He even added to the laws. Before , until you commit adultery, you are not a sinner. But now , Jesus said lusting after a woman is now a sin of adultery. Is that not additional law ? Before you can be angry with someone and not be seen as a murderer , but Jesus added ANGER to it . Why did God kill Anannais and Sapphira ? Because they lied not because they did not love . If love is all that is required of a christian , the fruit of the Holy Spirit needed would have been only LOVE. But what says the Bible in Gal 5: 19-22 ? Galatians 5:22-23 KJV But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And for you to have these fruits of the Spirit , you must have crucified your flesh. How does one crucifies the flesh ? By observing or not doing what God says you should not do. These are the Laws : Gal. :5 19-21. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. [19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these ; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. It is when you obey the voice of the Holy Spirit whenever He cautions you not to envy, strife , not to commit adultery, to reject adolatry etc , you are being led by the Holy Spirit.And then you can receive the fruit of the Holy Spirit. You must obey the laws but not the statutes of shedding the blood of animals ,as rituals needed to be holy , according to the laws. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Was Abolished by enilove(m): 6:57pm On Aug 28, 2018 |
christemmbassey: He abolished the Jewish Law with its commandments and rules, in order to create out of the two races one new people in union with himself, in this way making peace. Ephesians 2:15 GNB http://bible.com/296/eph.2.15.GNB The law says "thou shall not kill ". Can a christian now kill ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Vows To Keep Handling Snakes After Narrow Escape by enilove(m): 6:26pm On Aug 28, 2018 |
If the members don't want to have blood on their head they better stop attending his church.
If there is no member to display his foolishness to , he would not have any need to play with snake. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Vows To Keep Handling Snakes After Narrow Escape by enilove(m): 6:24pm On Aug 28, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Funny Video Of A Mountain Of Fire Girl Praying by enilove(m): 11:59am On Aug 28, 2018 |
MY FATHER AND MY MAKER , AS I BEGIN TO PRAY , ANY POWER FIGHTING MY DESTINY , DIE BY FIRE , IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
That girl is the head of the MFM prayer warrior group World Wide.
May God bless her and keep her , in Jesus' name. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Apostle Paul Struggle With Sin After He Got Saved According To Romans 7:18 by enilove(m): 10:23am On Aug 28, 2018 |
solite3: No, Paul was using what he was, to give an illustration of the sin nature of man in relation to God's law. Thanks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Apostle Paul Struggle With Sin After He Got Saved According To Romans 7:18 by enilove(m): 9:02am On Aug 28, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb: [quote author=MuttleyLaff
Go open the plane door, whilst in air, and see how the law of suction and gravity will make legally null and void the law of aerodynamics. \Quote/
Bro this is why Jesus Christ layed much emphasis on we abiding steadfastly in Him. For without Him we are nothing but victim to the law of sin and death. We see this in Peter.
Peter worked on water while abiding in Jesus Christ, but the moment his focus shifted he began to sink. Are you saying that Paul lost focus on Jesus at a point in his ministry? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Head-scratching Question 2(The Sleeping With The Virgin Mary By The Holy Spirit) by enilove(m): 8:28am On Aug 28, 2018 |
sonmvayina: Which prophet prophesied or reported that God was going to be the father of the messiah or that the Messiah will not have a human father or that his mother will be a Virgin..... And lastly that he was going to die for sins? Give me old testament quotes. Isaiah 7:14 KJV Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Hosea 11:1 KJV When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. Isaiah 53:4-10 KJV Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. [5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. [6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. [7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. [8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. [9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. [10] Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. I hope these satisfy your questions ,although there are more refetences. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Head-scratching Question 4(the Attempted Killing Of Baby Jesus) by enilove(m): 7:38am On Aug 28, 2018 |
Thenewtruth: 1. Was Herod stupid? How did Herod know a star far away in the sky can be found in Bethlehem?
2. How did he know the star the three wise men saw doesn't signified something else?
3. Why killed scores of children in Bethlehem when you are not sure where the star exact location was? Your problem is that you read for the reading sake like someone reading a novel. The answers to these 3 questions can be found in that very scriptures : Matthew 2:2-5,7-8 KJV Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. [3] When Herod the king had heard these things , he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. [4] And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. [5] And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, [7] Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. [8] And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him , bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. 1... Herod did not know , the 3 wise men told him. 2... It is this generation that lacks such knowledge and wisdom. The ancient people knew all that: Genesis 37:9-11 KJV And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. [10] And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? [11] And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying. 3.. He was sure because he enquired and was told where. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Head-scratching Question 1(The Death Of Christ On The Cross) by enilove(m): 7:15am On Aug 28, 2018 |
Thenewtruth: We have heard severally how Christ died on the cross because God loved the world and He wanted him to take the sins of the world away which leads to 3 head-scratching questions.
1. Since the death of Christ what sin(s) has been taken away? Every single sin that was in existence in his time is still here with us and one can even argue it's worse now than then.
2. So what love is displayed? No single sin was taken away so where is the love?
3. So why would God killed him to show his love to us? People died virtually everyday for his name sake, why is Christ death different? Op , you did not complete that scriptures : John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. If everyone living believes in Jesus and follow his teaching , there won't be sinners : 1.. For those who follow him , every single sin that were ever in existence is wiped away and no longer in their own lives. 2.. The love that is displayed is that instead of everlasting death you have everlasting life. 3... God did not kill Jesus . Jesus decided to kill himself to save us from death because Second death which is everlasting has no power over him : John 10:17-18 KJV Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. [18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Head-scratching Question 3(the Three Wise Men) by enilove(m): 6:58am On Aug 28, 2018 |
Thenewtruth: 1. Were they truly wise? They claimed they saw a star shinning brightly. Can the star shine brighter than the sun? How come they didn't follow the sun that shines brighter than the star?
2. How come no one saw the star except them? Herod who told them to come back didn't even see the star.
3. How did they know the star signified the birth of a baby? After all they only saw a star. SUN DOES NOT REPRESENTS A MAN , THAT WAS WHY THEY CANT FOLLOW A SUN. 2.. THAT WAS WHAT MADE THEM WISE AND DIFFERENT MEN. 3..EVEN THE YORUBA PEOPLE OF NIGERIA KNOW THAT A STAR REPRESENTS MAN. THEY CALL IT "IRAWO". |
Christianity Etc › Re: Head-scratching Question 2(The Sleeping With The Virgin Mary By The Holy Spirit) by enilove(m): 6:48am On Aug 28, 2018 |
Thenewtruth: 1. Why an immaculate conception when there are men who did what he did on earth without the holy spirit sleeping with a Virgin?
2. Why an immaculate conception when the baby she still gave birth to was still human? The baby physique wasn't special. It was like any other baby.
3. The baby was breast-feed like every other babies. If he doesn't need a man to be brought to the world then why does he need a man to grow? 1.. It is true that there were men who could easily sleep with virgin Mary for her to be pregnant but that pregnancy and the baby would belong to the earthly father and not God.If the baby were born by any earthly father , the child would automatically inherit the curse God placed upon the first man Adam , which every man that ever lived inherited. 2.. It is necessary for the baby to still be a man like you and I in order to represent the new Adam and to take away our sins. 1 Peter 2:23-25 KJV Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: [24] Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. [25] For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls. 3... He needed no man to grow. It is God that makes a man to grow and not man. Matthew 6:27 KJV Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? LASTLY FOR YOUR CORRECTION , HOLY SPIRIT DID NOT SLEEP WITH MARY . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Head-scratching Question 2(The Sleeping With The Virgin Mary By The Holy Spirit) by enilove(m): 6:40am On Aug 28, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Did Apostle Paul Struggle With Sin After He Got Saved According To Romans 7:18 by enilove(m): 10:00pm On Aug 27, 2018*. Modified: 6:34pm On Aug 28, 2018 |
Paul was talking about when he was following the law and how he discovered that he could not do those things required by the law until he accepted Jesus Christ .
The conclusion of that passage is in the next chapter 8 :
Romans 8:1-14 KJV There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. [9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. [10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. [11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. [12] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. [13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Paul was emphasizing on the reason why the law needed replacement by the death of Jesus . He there4 used himself as an example that when he was following the law he found it hard to be obedient to the laws .
From the beginning , it reads thus :
Romans 7:5-7 KJV For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. [6] But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. [7] What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
AFTER PAUL ACCEPTED JESUS HE NEVER STRUGGLED WITH SIN AGAIN. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help Me Great Minds In The House by enilove(m): 9:02pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
You are going to benefit from your late father's property , although this benefits can be lost if care is not taking.
You should be careful so that thieves don't get access to these benefits ( unripe fruits & fence ) .
That is my interpretation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Was A Good Girl But Why Did God Allow This To Happen To Me? by enilove(m): 7:40pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
Samuelgr8: Dear Jzhane,
Please hide my identity. I am 35 years old with a year old son. I met my ‘husband’ in 2013 and we started courting in 2014. We got married in 2016 June and got the shock of my life the two months later that my husband was already married with a daughter. I found out I was pregnant, from then on my life has been one long sad story. The man I loved and trusted deceived me with his family’s conical. They claim he......more
https://livelystones.com.ng/i-was-a-good-girl-but-why-did-god-allow-this-to-happen-to-me/ That is not God's fault but yours. We don't have to blame God for what we did not ask or allow Him to decide for us. When the servant of Abraham wanted to choose a wife for Isaac he prayed to God to choose the right woman for his master's son. And God did it. But nowadays , we feel we know it all . We all want to choose beautiful women and handsome men. That is a great problem indeed. The bible tells in : Jeremiah 17:9 KJV The heart is deceitful above all things , and desperately wicked: who can know it? If you had asked God , He would have told you not to marry him. So blame yourself and not God. Still , it is not the end of life , if you go to God in prayers , He will wipe away your tears. Trust God : Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. |
Christianity Etc › Re: [video] Alabama Pastor Says That 'witchcraft' Attacking Trump by enilove(m): 5:56pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
He is their number one target since he does not belong to them.
The more reason why we need to pray for our leaders |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Have Over 55 Sex Styles To Unleash On Women – Popular Prophet Declares by enilove(m): 2:46pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
Only those seeking to go to hell would remain in that church after this kind if confession. |
Christianity Etc › Re: When Lot's Wife Turned Back And Became Pillar Of Salt, Who Turned To Confirm? by enilove(m): 2:40pm On Aug 27, 2018 |
The next day after the incident , would they not know what became of her?
Lot and his daughter knew how they got there and would have traced back their steps to look for her. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by enilove(m): 9:28pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
frank317: Me!! Living corps... If I catch u ehhh. Hmm.
Actually, ur God better repent to me for creating a world he can't handle otherwise on the last day, I and my atheist community will send him to fell.
There is no God jare... If there is one he is afraid of me. Go and sleep , trouble maker. |