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God bless you for this sermon.

Would be ready to die for a lie? Paul and all the disciples kne
For a lie hadly would any be ready die .

Muhammed had soldiers through which he gain wealth ,women and authority. His followers were soldiers so it was easy for them to continue with him for the earthly gain through terrorism.

But for the followers of Jesus it wasn't so. They were ready to die for the truth of th gospel.

Paul suffered as written in;
2 Corinthians 11:22-32 KJV
Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. [23] Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. [24] Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. [25] Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; [26] In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; [27] In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and unclothedness. [28] Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. [29] Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? [30] If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities. [31] The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not. [32] In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:

Presently, what seed are the Muslims producing? Terrorism.

Op, you lack spiritual understanding and worst of all is that you dont read your quran.

We Christians are children of God but the muslims( you) are slaves of god (allah). It is there4 very disrespectful of you , a slave , to talk against a child of God because you dont have any inheritance with God. Remember ,your quran tells you to ask the christian for clearance when you are confused , even about your religion.

Mujtahida:
Christians and their hypocrisy. Moses is worse than Muhammad. Go and read the book of Numbers and Deuteronomy. What of Joshua, what of Samuel, what of Ezra. Abeggi, your eyes are sharp to see the faults in Muhammad yet blind to see that of Moses yet historical analysis proves that the bloodthirsty passages of the Koran derive from the bloodthirstiness of the Torah. Don't you know that Muhammad studied the Torah. God punish Moses for promoting genocide in the name of Yahweh.

Coming from an Ex Christian now a free thinker. Yes I am no longer a Christian and I detest all religions but do not think that your religion is anyway better than Islam. Just worship your Yahweh and leave others to worship theirs.

Chew on this : **The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion. It has been the most destructive to the peace of man since man began to exist. Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses, who gave an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and then rape the daughters. One of the most horrible atrocities found in the literature of any nation. I would not dishonor my Creator's name by attaching it to this filthy book -Thomas Paine

You cannot compare Moses with Muhammed.

Moses did not kill because he wanted women ,slaves and wealth. Moses only carried out the plan of God for salvation for the world as God promised Abraham.
God said to Abraham in;

Genesis 15:5-8,13 KJV
And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. [6] And he believed in the Lord ; and he counted it to him for righteousness. [7] And he said unto him, I am the Lord that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it. [8] And he said, Lord God , whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it? [13] And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

After this account the Israelites bcame slaves in Egypt as per above promise and after 400 years God raised Moses to deliver them. That land that God promised Abraham was were Moses took them to and God commanded Moses to kill the inhabitants because of their sins. see:

Deuteronomy 18:9-14 KJV
When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. [10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, [11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. [12] For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord : and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee. [13] Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God. [14] For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the Lord thy God hath not suffered thee so to do .

God did not give the Israelites commandment to kill other people of the world in order to convert them. After that the Israeltes have been waiting for the Christ . Jesus Christ came now with peace. That is why Christians are peacful.

vannessa7:
Your bold assertions does not make you God to decide who will go to heaven or hell, you were never a serious Muslim and you didn't experience the power of God in Islam, before Jesus came many people walked with God and pleased God, even a whole town of Nineveh repented when Jonah preached to them, Job pleased God so much God boasted about him, if you keep attributing all the glory that belong to God to Jesus you are definitely on your way to hell because God will not share His glory with any man.

The glory that belongs to God the Father belongs to God the Son.God the Father and Jesus are one.

Jesus did not come for his purpose but to fulfil the purpose of God his Father. Read:
John 10:24-38 KJV
Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. [25] Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. [30] I and my Father are one. [31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. [32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; [36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

JESUS IS THE TRUTH AND THE WAY. HE IS THE CHRIST.
IF YOU DIE WITHOUT JESUS YOU ARE DOOMED FOR EVER. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ARGUMENT

A true muslim would be a killer , killing for allah .Muhammed was a murderer. I will never kill because I want 72 wives in paradise .I know within me that killings are evil. Why cant the muslims reason and read the english quran and judge for themselves. Muhammed died through food poison. A true prophet would have been told by God that the meat contains poison.

Pray enguiry prayer to God your Creator b4 it is too late for you. The devil is wise, but by his fruit you should know this is the devils work and prophet.

@Op, I am sure you were never a true Christian. Probably you had been calling yourself a christian but you were never one.

I have my reasons:

1___ You started a thread which you want people to believe but failed to answer a simple question that relates to what you posted.

2------- No sane person would read the Bible and the quran with understanding that would tell you that the quran is the WORD OF GOD. This is the plain truth.

3____ A true christian believes every word of Jesus Christ and obeys his commandment.

4----- - How can you make heaven when you abandon a gentle Saviour , Jesus Christ, who died for your sin to give you eternal life, to follow a murderer ,an adulterer, a worshipper of idol , allah. muhammed was a complete false prophet and an anti christ he claimed Jesus was never crucified.

Go and write this down, if you die as a muslim, you are going to HELL ETERNAL..

I was a muslim , so I know the quran and some hadith and I can tell you plainly that allah is not your Creator neither is he the Creator of the Universe. Allah' s house is the Kabah. That is why evey mosque in the world must face the kabah and on hajj, they must go round it seven times. That is plain idolatory.


It is a the fake that comes after the original. unless the product is from the same manufacturer and going through modification and upgrade. Christianity was b4 Islam more than 600 yrs.

Remember , Jesus tells us in: John 4:22 KJV
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Muhammed was not a Jew. All other prophets ,except muhammed ,were all Jews.

You have to repent and receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

adepeter2027:
There is nothing like such word "TRUE CHRISTIAN"

The moment you become a Christian, you are actually a TRUE CHRISTIAN, but once you leave, "YOU WERE NEVER A TRUE CHRISTIAN IN THE 1ST PLACE"

Religion and confusion

The question is not for you. Let the op answer for herself.

It is a simple question. There is a " true" christian and a "false" christian, unless you want to tell me that there is nothing like " true or false".

Op, I am expecting your response.

I hope you include al-lat.
We dont want the name of an idol, keep your names to your section.
Truly allah is not the Creator of heaven and the universe. As for me , Islam is a false , satanic and terrorists religion.

Op, I would like to ask you a question to verify if actually you were a christian.

My question is who is a true Christian ?

The greatest calamity is to die believing a lie which eventually leads to eternal suffering in hell.

Rather than argue why not go into prayer and ask your Creator to show you the right way. He will never mislead you.

This is for the Muslims, Christians and others.
The fact that you believe in Jesus does not guarantee you heaven, it is to obey his commandments and be holy that will

God bless you all.

hoodboy:
i remember once when i was confronted with arguements against the Godship of Christ by my JW roommates, they asked me to point to any part in the bible that proved that Jesus is God. So I had to read my biblr and was led to John 14:8-9

John 14:8-9New International Version (NIV)

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen me has seen the Father How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

this for me has settled whatever confusion they tried to create, unfortunately after pointing them to this scripture, they still didn't believe

There are so many places in the Bible where Jesus made is to know he is God. e.g


John 10:30-39 KJV
I and my Father are one. [31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. [32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. [34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; [36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? [37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. [39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

And there still other places in the Bible like this.

shigishege:
oga shut up nobody has ever refer to Jesus Christ as God or god. he is none of them but He is certainly d son of living God YHAWEH. i dont talk about religion and i wouldnt av said anything concerning dis thread but i hate it when some unscrupulous being tried to cover truth wit their incomplete and malicious understanding. its like im a Chelsea fan and a Manchester fan was talking lies about Chelsea u know i will feel d need to talk no matter how i chose to be indifferent. We want peace and dats why i feel somehow we should leave religion discussion alone especially between opposite followers because in this disagreement always arise and it can lead to anything especially given how extreme Muslims normally take thier religion understanding. Christians are peaceful and no doubt about dat but dis Muslims are very bad. yeah they are bad. invariably i affirm dat my Jesus is Lord. He is Messiah. He is d son of God Jehovah.

If a lion gives birth to a lion, what would you call that baby lion when it matures?

As a Christian you should be reading your Bible and know that is therein.

Have not read:

Revelation 1:11-20 KJV
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. [12] And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; [13] And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. [14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; [15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. [16] And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. [17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. [19] Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; [20] The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Who was the speaker ? That is Jesus Christ he is also the Alpha and the Omega , the Son of the living God. He is qualified and more qualified to be called God since Almighty God is his Father.

Your son bears your saw name. If a stranger comes to your house and asks for Elija ( the saw name) if your son goes out to answer him would people say he is not Elija?
He is also entitled by law to be called Elija.
A lion will give birth to a lion. Period.

zingywingy:
We said Jesus didn't complete his job and we are right.
Muhammad finished the job by giving us realistic command that will suit the world God has planned which is what we live now. Pastor Chris and many pastors divorced and both or some part remarried.

Muhammed was realistic in all his judgement and decisions. None was faulty nor discriminatory

You are correct to say "Muhammed gave you a realistic command that will suit the world."

Don't you realise that what suits the world is not what suits God.
James 4:4 KJV
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


It is the lie of the devil to think Jesus did not finish his devine assignment. About 700 years after Jesus completed his assignment b4 Muhammed and quran , Jesus said in :

John 19:30 KJV
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

As per Pastor Chris, I dont follow what a pastor does of believes, I follow the bible, because the Bible makes us to understand that there is going to be many false prophets when the world is going to an end.

misterh:
The issue with this response and the thread as a whole is that some adherents of a religion judge other religions by the standards and models of their own religion. For instance, if divorce is illegal in Christianity, you don't expect it to also be illegal in Islam.
They are 2 different religions that have different rules and laws. So calling one religion a FALSE religion is funny. We have hundreds of religions in the world and each one believes his own is the only true one.

Because you have not read the quran, I will say you are correct to an extent . I would not have said Islam is a false religion if Islam and quran did not claim that the God of the chistians is the God of Islam.

I know as a father that it is credible for me to say things that are just ,honest and of good report to my children so as not to mislead or destroy them. I cannot say to one child " fight and kill your enemies " , and say to another son " dont fight and kill your enemies but pray for them". If such instructions are in writing and read by the children and compared, they will come to a conclusion that " one of it is not written by their father" , because the instructions are contradictory.

What I am saying is that , God is not a God of confusion, it is the devil that is playing a prank with the human souls so that anyone that falls for his lies can be destroyed.

I was a muslim but I had to pray to know the will of God for my life because this world is something else and deep than our knowledge.

Ignorance is not an excuse b4 earthly laws neither would it be acceptable in heaven.
The bible says in :

Hosea 4:6 KJV
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, .......

The way to know the truth is through God in prayer. He is your Creator , He will not lead you astray.

Terminator1234g:
On the very contrary Jesus never said anything about Christianity and never even mentioned the word. You people say God gave birth to Jesus, pls explain how... Increase your knowledge read the bible and the Quran. The Qur'an spoke about Mary even more than the old testamin. Good day.

Allah SWT says:

Allah SWT says:

قَالَتْ أَنّٰى يَكُونُ لِى غُلٰمٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِى بَشَرٌ وَلَمْ أَكُ بَغِيًّا
"She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?""
(QS. Maryam: Verse 20)

قَالَ كَذٰلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌ ۖ وَلِنَجْعَلَهُ ۥ ٓ ءَايَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَرَحْمَةً مِّنَّا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرًا مَّقْضِيًّا
"He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.' ""
(QS. Maryam: Verse 21)

* Via the Beautiful Qur'an https:///QLwc8B

If Mary could have a son without sleeping with a man, who then is the father of the child? Is the child not from God. If the child does not have an earthly father but a heavenly Father , is the child not a son of God?

If allah needs a wife in order to have a son, then he is not Almighty.


You said Jesus never mention anything about christianity in the bible. The fact is that you are following a man made religion God is not after religion. God is interested in those who will obey Him and keep His commandment. That is why Jesus said :

John 8:31-32 KJV
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; [32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

What is the meaning of disciple? It means someone who accepts and follows the teachings of a famous person.
The word "Christian" means christ like. Someone who believes and follows the teachings of Christ the Saviour.

Acts 11:26 KJV
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Islam is a FALSE RELIGION. If Islam believed in Jesus ,the quran would have contained WORDS of Jesus and obey his commandment. If you believe that a prophet is from God , why dont you obey his messages?

Which of Jesus commandments is in the quran? Non.
Muhammed married the wife of his adopted son . But Jesus tells us not to divorce nor marry a divorced woman.

Matthew 5:31-32 KJV
It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: [32] But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Quran says in Surah 33:37.

37 Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah´s command must be fulfilled.

The same God of the Bible that hates divorce cannot be the God that commanded Muhammed to marry his adopted son's wife.

Islam is the devil's lie. That is why everything about Islam is violence .

Quran does not contain the ten commandment as given to Moses.
Islam does not know the meaning of a Prophet. That is why quran calls Adam a prophet.

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People love darkness more than light.

The Op has quoted the bible passage pointing out to you all that you should not make any graving image .
Whether you honour or pray to it does not matter, "don't is don't".

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Silence is what you need .

Silence is what you need.

Tithe is a must for christians. The Lord Jesus commands it.


Matthew 5:17-20 KJV
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 23:23 KJV
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Jesus said that he did not come to cancel the laws. It is more important to abide by the commandments of God than to assume. If the pharisees pay tithe and Jesus says we should do more than them, then we must pay tithe and give extra if we have it.

Yes , Jesus is God the Son.

No matter the number of denomination, one thing is certain , that is , the churches make use of the same book, the Bible and say that Jesus is God. We all have same faith in Jesus, except the satanic churches
set up by agent of the devil.

Jesus is God just like his Father . Unless you can prove that an offspring of a lion is not a lion.

It is a pity. I pray that God Almighty will save the souls of these children by leaving this devil's religion called "Islam".

Islam is from the devil. Allah is the god that is living inside the kaabar. That is the reason why all the mosque in the world must face it and they must go round it seven times when they are on hajj.

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free, provided you wish to be free.

Op, there are many agents of darkness on nairaland who hate to see evil people like them going into the captivity they prepared for children of God. They will even say "it is a lie" , because they dont want peope to be set free.

I know people like you , in the past ,would have said praying such prayers against the enemy is evil, but now you know better.

This world is full of wickedness.