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[quote author=frosbel]God forbid I should ever hate Muslims !! From my heart I can attest to the fact that not only do I have Muslim friends, my bible teaches me to LOVE even my enemies. I will tell you what I hate, a religion taking hundreds of millions of my brothers and sisters to an eternity without Christ. May you never end up where Muhammad is today !![/quote Amen. |
Jesus Christ is a God. We the children of God are gods also. |
What can you say concerning John the Baptist mode of preaching in Matt 3:7. "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism,HE SAID UNTO THEM,OGENERATION OF VIPERS,WHO HATH WARNED YOU TO FLEE THE WRATH OF GOD TO COME?" Can John be accused of a "guilt trip "preaching? Is our Lord Jesus Christ not guilty of the same offence,if we consider what he said in Matt 11:21-24" Woe unto thee Chorazin! woe unto thwe,Bethsaida !for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon,they would have repented long ago in sachcloth and ashes.But I say unto you,it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgemeny,than for you." Even in schools they do inform students of the advantages and disadvantages of a things. What do say to our Lord Jesus Christ's and John's style of preachings. |
Pygru: Frobel is very deceptive!He needs prayers,he is carnally minded.He has forgotten that we shall all ,one day, give account of all we have said and posted. This is about life and death.Is more than mere arguments. I just pray he realises what he is doing. He has been steadfast of resent regarding his zeal to convert the catholic christian, but on this issue,I dont agree with him. I pray that the grace of the Lord shall be granted unto us all to make heaven. |
frosbel: ^^^^You started this thread to prove there is no hell,and you are shying away from the truth when it has been proven that it exists. Why did you have time to say demons and witches do not drink blood but left the core issue unaswered? Answer my question and I will answer yours truthfully. |
frosbel,your question as regards Gen.4:10 that "are we to suggest here that Abels blood was literally crying out to God" , shows your level of spiritual understandings. What is the diff btw blood and a soul? Levit 17:11 states" For the life of the flesh is in the blood: Gen.9:4 "But the flesh with the life thereof,which is the blood thereof ,shall ye not eat." This tells you that the life,which is the soul, is the same with the blood.You may see blood as a liquid substance,but it is really the life.That is why witches and demons drink blood. God says it has a voice ,because it is a life,you are giving your opinion that it does not have a voice,so cannot cry.But God says ,the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground,because it is lively. Your problem is that you assume too much.Lets see your opinion on Abraham's bosom. You said "But how can he perish ?He is not really dead,he is already living with the Lord in Abrahams bosom,located in Heaven. Is Abraham's bosom located in heaven? I want to tell you that the Bible says otherwise. John 3:13"And no man hath ascended up to heaven,but he that came from heaven,even the Son of man which is in heaven." Meaning Abraham Isaac,Israel,David etc that died b4 Jesus's death on the cross were underneath the earth according to our Lord Jesus Christ. Luke 16:23 "And in hell he lift up his eyes ( not his head) being tormented,and seeth Abraham afar off ( miles or distance) & Lazarus in his bosom ( in Abraham's abode). Verse 26 "And beside all this, btw us and you there is a great gulf fixed ( a great ocean fixed) :so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot ;neither can they pass to us ,that would come from thence". This shows clearly they were in the same place ,underneath the earth. When Jesus died in the flesh b4 his resurrection,he went to Hades or sheol ( the abode of the dead ) & made proclamation to those who were in spiritual prison.( Greek word for proclamation is Kerusso) That is, proclaiming the truth to those in Abraham's bosom . Proclaiming to them the gospel and then led them to heaven to dwell with God. Eph 4:8-10 "Wherefor he saith,When he ascended up on high he led captivity captive ,& gave gifts unto men.(Now that he ascended;what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth( hell ) ? Isiah 5:14 "Therefore hell hath enlarged herself ,and opened her mouth without measure :and their glory ,and their multitude......shall descend into it." Does it make any meaning to say grave has enlarged herself? You cannot impose your opinion.Hell is real. |
frosbel, Explain the meaning of Isiah 5:14 that says " Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp,& he that rejoiceth,shall descend into it." |
luckyCO: This recalled this dream I have had concurrently for now;God showed you in the first dream what the elders were planning against the man.May be God wanted you to pray for the man. Infact if the man is not dead physically,it will take the grace of God to save him. Surely the elders in that community have settled his case spiritually through marine witchctaft. The last one is the most important.The Bible says thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free in John 8:32. God has revealed who this man is to you.What you have to do is keep your secret away from him.Do not let him know anything about your family again. But pray for him.Do not hate him for any reason because there is no harm he can do against you. Be prayerful. |
ijawkid: Enilove you err big time bro......even nations like babylon,medo persia,tyre and sidon were all said to go down into sheol....You did not answer my question.What is the meaning of Isiah 5:14. Can grave be enlarged? |
luckyCO: I have heard this kind of dream one time, when I was coming out family house gate, I saw Moses and God discussion at my right side close to one pear tree. Some thing told me to my mind look at your right you will see Moses and God discussing.This dream indicates that you are a prophet, a great prophet,but you have the spirit of lust in you. This spirit was trying to defile you to make you useless for God's divine asignment. |
luckyCO: ClarificationThis shows there is going to be a change in this nation.It means God has decided to help Nigeria as a nation. The power of darkness shall no longer have control over Nigeria. The Bible reference was refering to the previous way we had been living as a nation , which was not pleasing to God. |
luckyCO: Thanks,it makes more sense. What about the first dream?The first dream is telling you and every nigerian that there is a god in Asu Rock.Thou we worship God,but this god,where the president resides, is a great destroying mountain. We all feel Abuja should be the capital,but there are powers dictating for this nation in that capital , more especially the Asu Rock. The foundation of the capital is faulty. May be it was dedicated to an idol, but everyone wants to be there. It is a great revelation to you,probably you have been interceeding for the country in prayer. |
From the original languages, the bible uses the Hebrew word sheol and its Greek equivalent hades about 70 times. Some Bible translations translates them as "grave,"hell", or "pit". When the Bible refers to specific burial place or a grave,it uses other Hebrew and Greek words ,& not sheol or hades. Like as written in Matt 28:1 " In the end of the sabbath,as .........Marry Magdalene and the other Marry to see the sepulchre". The bible does not use the word sheol for a grave where several individual are buried together as in Genesis 49:30-31 The Bible tells us that sheol or hades are different from grave. Isiah 5:14 says "There 4 hell hath enlarged herself,& opened her mouth without measure:& their glory......shall descend into it." This indicates that it is diff from a literal burial places which can hold only limited number of dead persons. Let me ask prosbel,ijawkid and others who believe that hell does not exit,can grave enlarge herself as stated in Isiah 5:14 above? Note that ,only one person can be buried in a grave. No matter the Bible translations you give to Proverb 15:24 that says "The way of life is above to the wise,that he may depart from hell beneath", that can change the fact that everyone would be buried in the grave. This shows, it is pointless saying ," that he may depart from the grave beneath". Why did the Bible say that the grave is beneath, when we know that when people are dead they will be buried in the ground? But the bible tells us that hell is in inside the ground,because many may not know. Hell is diff from grave. The bones and the flesh are in the grave but the soul is either in hell or in heaven. |
Do you lust after women? If yes,the enemy might want to use that as an evenue to terminate your life. Pray to God to forgive you of your sin of lust and fornication,then pray that ,you will not experience any suicide bombing ,in Jesus name. The death of the wife indicates they are going to use a woman as a sacrifice. So beware,they have dicided on whom to use.It is a woman. It is like they children of the bond woman ( Boko Haram) are trying to detonate a bomb in that church,but God is protecting you people. The only way out is for them to look for an excuse. They have spiritually scan your life and can see the sin of lust in you. The way out is for you to leave that place,but dont not head toward the north,it is still their domain. That is what the stopage of the vehicle connote. Ask for the forgiveness of your sin,it is not until one sleeps with a woman before he commits the sin of fornication. |
It is really sad when some christians read something in the bible and would decide or infer that it means something else. Hell is hell. Grave is grave and diff from hell. Sheol means the abode of the dead. The bible mentioned grave on countless number of times.It also mentioned hell, both in the new and old testament, many times. So,why should we suggest or assume that the hell should not be included in the bible, but be replaced with the word "grave"? It is simple, we are afraid of going there. But the wise would think of what could take him to hell and avoid doing such things. The bible says in Romans 8:6 that " to be carnally minded is death;and to be spiritually minded in life and peace." It also says in Proverb 15:24 " That the way of life is above ( spiritually minded) to the WISE ,that he may depart from hell beneath. Not grave. Why is satan ministring such messages to people, it is to downplay sin and its consequence. Eventually, he might succeed in taking as many people, as possible, to hell. God knew it would come to this and said in 2Timothy 4:3-4 " For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers,having itching ears;And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, & shall be turned unto fables( parables or alegory ). Just as they call the story of Lazarus and Abrahim, in Look 16: 20- 25 ,a parable or fable. We cannot continue to waste our time on this as father Abraham told the rich man that , even if someone in hell should go to them in the world to warn them,they would still not believe. There 4, no amount of argument can change some people,since they can read it from the bible and infer a diff meaning to it.They want to rewrite the bible. God says in Hosea 4:17" Ephraim is joined to idols:let him alone."Likewise,some people have dicided not believe lies of the devil,let them alone. |
alexleo: @enilove,Thanks , God bless you . |
For Prosbel. These are answers to your questions: 1 Where is there mentioned of a seperate entity called spirit which resides in man? Job 32:8 " But there is a spirit in man: & the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding". I hope you can now see where it is written. 2 If the spirit,which in your opinion is an entity in its own right,goes upward, where does d soul go to? Psalm 16:10 "For thou will not leave my soul in hell: neither will thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption." This is to tell you that the soul of some will go to hell and remain in hell ,when someone dies. For the righteous, their souls will go to heaven and be with God. Also remember Proverb 15:24 " The way of life is above to the wise ,that he might depart from hell beneath. 3 What is the difference btw a soul and a spirit.? A soul is a person's total self .It is also the active and essential part of your spirit being that differentiates you from others. The spirit is the breath of God in us.The invisible force that keeps the body and soul to function as one and connected to God. 4 Why does Genesis omit d a/c of the creation of a separate spirit and soul ,instead plainly states that man is dust with life of God in him? God is a spirit ,He does not need to create what He has in His possession. Genesis 2:7 "And d Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground,& breathed into his nostrils the breath of life,and a man became a living soul." That breath of life from God is the Spirit of God. So,how do you expect God to create what He has already? You said Jesus is flesh and bone,there4 man is flesh and bones. Can flesh and bone move on its own,without the breath of life,which is the spirit in you,that makes you to become a living soul? Your soul is your identity.You can talk,bend down ,run ,eat and do other things only because you have that breath in you.That breath is your spirit,given to you by God. A man is soul even when he is dead,it is the flesh and bones that would decay.His identity ,the soul, will either be in hell or be with God in heaven. David said this in Psalm 86:13" For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell".Note ! There is nothing like lowest grave.Graves are all of the same depth.The same Six feet. This is to advice you to take the story of Lazarus ,narrated by Jesus ,as true life story and not a parable. |
frosbel, I just want you to know that there are somethings you do not have knowledge of ,and which you claim to know. Lets consider you statement that, the soul of maln is without body parts;that it is without interior nor exterior and that it does not have a tongue & eyes. Psalm 7:2 "Lest he tear my soul like a lion,rendering it in pieces...." If soul does not have parts ,how can it be torn in pieces? A man has a body ,soul and spirit.When someone dies,it is the body that returns to dust not the soul and the spirit. We are created in the image of God,and God does not have a physical body made of dust, but a spiritual body.So every human being at death will become a spirit soul without physical body. This spirit can be seen and it has eyes and brain and tongues more functional than it was in the body made of dust. God is a Spirit and has a Spiritual body that appeared to Moses in Exodus 33:23. This reads," And I will take away mine hand and thou shalt see my back parts,but my face thall not be seen". This means that the rich man in hell has eyes and tongues and brains intact,as Jesus said. Demons are spirits,still they can talk and feel pains. Likewise a dead person,who will drop the body and bocome a spirit being. A soul has eyes and everything that the human form has. God has a soul( Judges 10:16) . Since God have eyes and mouth,why do you think the soul of Lazarus in hell will not have eyes and tongues? Infact,the real person in us is the soul ,not the body of dust or the physical body. Genesis 2:7 says" And God formed man of the dust of the ground ,& breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; & man bcame a LIVING SOUL. Not a living body. When you are sleeping and dreams that you are driving,it is not the physical eyes, that is closed in bed, you use in driving but the spiritual eyes of the soul in you.When you dream,it is your soul and spirit that are in action not the physical body, which is sleeping or resting. As you requested, this is to kindly tell you how a soul can have a complete body with hands to touch and tongues to taste. Hell is real,Jesus said so, & it is so. |
frosbel: The way above is life ;You did not answer the second part about whether the spirits beings have body or not.Can they feel pain or not? |
Prosbel, can explain the meaning of Proverb 15:24 "The way of life is above to the wise ,that he may depart from hell beneath." If there is no hell and it certain that everyone will die & go to his grave,why did the scripture above says, "to depart from hell beneath"? Does it mean a righteous man will not go to the grave? Another question is this. Do spirits beings have body or not? Can they feel pain or not? |
frosbel: Sorry , I was not trying to rubbish MFM, it's just that they tend to concentrate on chasing and cursing their enemies , praying against witches and wizards , instead of seeking for a closer and holy walk with GOD as the emphasis.You have not realised that you need deliverance. The spirit to antagonize good and bad doctrine is in you,which you are ignorant of. You also lack deep spiritual knowledge of God and His word. The reasons are: 1- We have the devil and his agents as enemies of God and enemies to man. Psalm 68:1-3" Let God arise,let his enemies be scattered:let them also that hate him flee before him. These are two sets of enemies. God's enemies( Satan and his agents) and those that hate God (human beings). 2 - We also have fellow human beings who hate us and have made themselves our enemies, for no reason. So when you read the book of psalm and come across verses like" The Lord also thundered in the heavens and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.Yea,he sent out his arrows,& scattered them;& shot out lightnings and discomfitted them. (Psalm 18:13-14). You should ask yourself ,what does God need arrows,thunders,hail stones and lightenings for? Is it not to fight our spiritual battles for us? Are these enemies physical enemies? That is ,the hail stones and arrows are for the spiritual enemies of our souls. Psalm 18:17 also says, "He delivered me from my strong enemies( satan and his agents or demons) & from them which hated me( human beings) for they were too strong for me." Someone that hates you is also your enemy.But for you and I to understand that we have spiritual enemies,the psalmist says in that verse , "my enemies and also those that hate me. Making 2 sets of enemies. This is to enlighten you that enemies can mean satan,demons or human beings. Matt 5:44 "But I say unto you,Love your enemies,bless them that curse you,do good to them that hate you and persecute you." In this verse,Jesus was refering to human beings, not satan or demons. When you are praying,this bcomes a spiritual thing, and since we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness ( satan and evil powers),when you mention ,MY ENEMIES ,you are refering to spirit beings,not your neighbours.Unless you want to tell me that satan is not your enemy.Someone that steals ,kills and destroys is a strong and wicked enemy. Another point is that,you pray in the name of Jesus to God. God knows who you are refering to & cannot go to your neighbour to kill him, because you have commanded Him to. If James 4:3 says "ye ask, & receive not,because ye ask amiss....",this shows that if you pray against your enemies ,nothing will happen to them,because God has all the power and determines which prayer to answer. The bible says "We wrestle not against flesh.... Then ask yourself,is this a wrestling game ( a kind of sport) or fight to kill and destroy ignorant christians ,who are not prayerful,or not. Jesus told us when John the baptist was killed that,the kingdom of heaven sufereth violence and the violent chriatians taketh it by force. This means if you are not violent spiritually,the power of darkness would waste the person's life And your allegation that they focus on witches and wizard instead of holy walk with God,shows that most of your arguments were without proofs. MFM is one of the chuches in this nation that preaches and teaches you the true word of God. In most churches ,d women do wear trousers,ear rings,attachments,lipsticks etc but not in MFM. An MFM member who indulges in sin,cannot wage a spiritual battle against the powers of darkness. Check all my postings and see if I have ever abuse or cursed anyone. MFM is a deliverance ministry which teaches you that ,upon mount zion there shall be deliverance and HOLYNESS and the house of Jacob shall possess its possession. So, holyness is not negotiable in MFM. You have to be careful because every idle word we say shall be accounted for. Also,pray to God,on your stand regarding tithe. It is a total diobedience to the word of God.The same with Hell. Truly hell is real. |
musKeeto: On a more serious note, this is a warning from God that you should stop drinking Fanta and Coke. The guy you went with represents the owner of the place you regularly have food during break.The women of easy virtue represent your close friends, the ones youThis your interpreptation na wa o. So make she stop drinking fanta and koki. Se you na General Overseer ? No be only fried rice na fried beans. |
The dream indicates satanic initiation into fornication and abomination. To start with, think of what could have prompted these dreams. It it likely you have just started friendship with someone who has such spirit and has initiated you. The fact that you sat with some of the women in that dream shows you are already part of them, ignorantly. Try and recall when such dreams started and those you have associated with and stiil associating with. Do you make use of bleaching creams? Check the names of the creams you use and the soaps,some of them are demonic. Stop using attachments on your hair if you really wants to be delivered. The way out is these: Confess your sins to God and accept Jesus into your life as your pasonal Lord and saviour. Stop any known sin. Read the psalms given to you. Go for deliverance in Mountain of Fire and Miracle Ministry prayer city,along Ibadan express way.Or Redeem or Deeper life. But if you cannot go on 3 day dry fast and do way with attachment,lip stick ,trousers, and any other sins,do not go to MFM. You can pray and reject those evil association and read your bible regularly. I do not know much about Synagogue,but I will advice you not go there for dileverance. Also,do not go to any white garment church. Deliverance is about holyness ,because God is Holy.You must be ready to obey the words of God and be prayerful.Do not allow anyone to lay hand on your head and give you water ,candle and annoniting oil to use. Your prayer point is , "Father you said what ever we reject on earth shall be rejected in heaven,I reject any evil association, pertaining to that dream, to lure me into abominable sins and take me to hell,in Jesus name. Any power that wants me to go into captivity shall go into captivity ,in the name of Jesus.Because Jesus Christ, having spoiled principalities and powers made a show of them openly triumphing over them. Any association and covenant with marine spirits ,break by the blood of Jesus. Father you said,whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved,Father Lord,save me from every evil plan of the power of darkness for my life,in the name of Jesus. You need to fast and pray concerning the dream,if not,those things you detest,you might little by little,start indulging in them. Beware of the kind of friends you keep. May God be with you and deliver you in Jesus name. |
nmuhd: Jesus prayed like Muslims in bible why dont christians pray like jesus?:I pray that by the grace of the Lord Jesus,you will know the truth about this your religion. Have you ever questioned yourself why you have to face a kaaba and pray towards it? Is God living in the Kaaba? Ask yourself, did Jesus ever prayed facing the kaaba? Did he perform ablution? If people are deceiving you,you should not deceive yourself,the two religions are not the same.God of the bible is not god of the quran. The only way to know this truth is to pray, "O God my creator,open my spiritual eyes to know what Islam stands for and open my spiritual eyes to know what Christianity stands for. . |
You are very creative. The Lord has blessed you with many talents, More annointing. What about the Muslim and free thinkers team list? |
oduz: Whats your best offer?Give me a call,we can discuss more about the offer and the reason for the sale. |
Thank you may God bless you,in the name Jesus. |
honey001: Good point here.Confession of sin is to God ,because it is God that forgives.When you confess your sin to a man,he can forgive you,but God may not forgive you ,unless you confess to God and ask God for His forgiveness. If the wife gets born again,it will be foolish and unwise to start telling the husband all the atrocities or repulsive things she did with men in the past since when they got married. If the husband is not born again, he may divorce her on that ground,thereby compounding the problems.This will one way or the other affects the children. The point is that she should go ahead with the relationship and sin no more. The realationship btw the two friends is not as important as that of the family.A man and his wife are one,no two friends can become one,no matter how close the relationship may be. The guy had stoped being a true friend since the time he allowed himself to be tempted and fell for the trap. If the wife decides to tell the husband,it is the relationship btw the two friends that will suffer ( that is the consequence of his sin),not the whole family and the friendship.That is, if God dicides to intervene in the marriage. Restitution is about giving back to the owner his possession or property.Since the time he decided to stop the relationship,he has made a restitution by leaving the wife alone. If you steal someone's money,it is not the confession that restitutes but the paying back of the money. In this case,the wife is back in her home,the confession will only reveal their past sin and can break the home.Instead,he should go to God in prayer,as he did,and God will have mercy on him. |
[quote author=i.chuka]You still don't understand galatains2:20.a true Christain is DEAD[/quote]Are you saying a true Christian cannot be tempted? |
omojand: Thanks for your comments/advice - particularly to Alexleo, Honey001 etc. God is truly alive, as I just found my answer.That is God for you. Pls,do not make the mistake of confessing to your friend. The essence of the temptation was to break their homes,even though God has forgiven you,do not break their marriage by this confession. You have been forgiven.If the wife asks for forgiveness and repent sincerely,God will forgive her as well. Restitution is to restoring or making good. By revealing to your friend your bad past with the wife,you are not restoring the marriage to its rightful position but instead it would create more division or divorce in the marriage. I thank God for your life for making you to come to the light. |
Bidam: @candour you have said it all..it is the same "Spirit of grace" that will make most people to start sleeping around before marriage all in the name of "it is NOT fornication or sexual immorality..Paul advice to the immoral corinthians should have been a perfect example but 'NO' we take the grace of God as a license to commit evil..believe you me the devil rejoice in this confusion we are making by twisting scriptures to our own destructions..since he(satan) canlt get us to reject Christ he will use the same scripture to make sure we fall just like he beguiled eve and try to tempt our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ... One thing is certain here okeyzz is set on his Folly( a backslider is FULL OF HIS WAYS NO DOUBT). ONCE YOU REFUSE TO HUMBLY TAKE CORRECTION THEN CHECK IT YOUR SALVATION HAS A PROBLEM..God bless you,that is exacly what is happening. People see grace as a lower standard to indulge in immoralities. May God forgive us all. |
ebusko43: I had a dream, last 5years ago...in that dream, i was walking in a bush path and i came under a big tree, i saw something, but am not very sure of wat i saw, the thing was shining and Gold in color, as i wanted to touch it, i heard a voice saying not everytin you should touch..immedately i left that place, as i was walking toward a juction, a man 4rm no were, just came to me and told me that God will use me to do wonderful things....pls interpert..thanks.The bush indicated a lost path.As you saw yourself in that bush it means you were lost and that tree may connote a place of worship and the gold you saw was not a real gold( not a right place of worship) and you can not get what you were loooking for or solution to your problem in that place. That bush may also means you were into something totally diff from the plan of God for your life.The gold may be a profession you chose as a way of life,thinking that is the plan of God for your life. But the mercy of God has indicated that God wants you to serve Him in a different way,a kind of higher call. Pray that God should reveal His divine purpose for your life.Pray that god should open your spiritual eyes. Use the word of God in Psalm 25:4 to pray. |
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