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What do you expect?You expect people who hate the truth to hail you?You should realise that you have started a war against the Satan and powers from the pit of hell, and they will do everything to silence you.
That is the truth, especially on the issue of Catholic.

You are in a battle.Remember Eph 6:12" For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,but against principalities,against powers,against rulers of darkness of this world,against spiritual wickedness in high places."Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day,having done all,STAND."

Any where the truth is said,you must expect to see few people,the minority.
Jesus said in Matt7:13" Enter ye in at the stait gate( tight and difficult gate):for wide is d gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction,& MANY there be which go in thereat:Becos strait ( very small ) is the gate ,& narrow is the way,which leadeth unto life,& FEW there be that findeth it."

Only few will accept and love what you are preaching.The few that have heaven as their focus or goal.
Jesus christ died for our sins,most of the apostles died in the process of preaching the truth.If you don't expect any confrontations,abuses,curses ,then you have not really started preaching the truth,because it is bitter.
You should expect criticisms and respect others views as well,because no one knows it all.

Do not be discouraged,and do not be ignorant of the divices of the devil.

Thanks

Boomark: According to john 10:30, Jesus and the Father are one what?

The disciples said, "show us the Father." That is, they want to SEE the Father. Did Jesus ever say i am the Father? The answer to knowing who the Father is, is in the bolded. The Father is not far from them.



Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham and of Isaac
and of Jacob, the God of our
forefathers, has glorified His
servant, Jesus, whom you, for
your part, delivered up....

The green part shows the one God of the Isrealites who is different from Jesus. The one referred to in Deu 6:4. Go to the last post on the 1st page you will see more. you will also get answer to Jn 1:1 on that page. Just read through the thread you will enjoy more revelation.

You are (in my opinion)100% right. But please try and be 100% holy as our Father in heaven is holy. Pray for us all ,so that we all and those having diff opinions can make heaven.
I also pray for you and every other christian that we shall not labour in vain ,in the name of Jesus.
I believe that Jesus is the son of God and was sent to die for our sins.He said he has a Father in heaven.
Being one with the Father means being united with God.He kept saying "Father let your will be done".
In Revelation 3:12 "Him that overcometh will I make pillar in the temple of my God......( Jesus calling the Father his God )

When we get to heaven,by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ,we shall ask as many questions as we have.
That is when this electronic evangelism will be worth-while.

Thanks

[quote author=wazobia_for_u]My brother/sister, this is where the problems of many christianity baffle me,

When you qoute a vers - they will say you picked only that verse that you should more verses to it

When you qoute a long verses - they will bring another verse to counter it

When you qoute from OT - they will way old things has passed,that Jesus came to wash away sin on NT

When you qoute a whole chapter(like i did) - you are referring to another chapter

Are you not proving that there is contradiction in the Bible? Or should i nullify the whole the TEACHING directly from JESUS in MATHEW? Hun?

** the first time God introduced Jesus when is matured to the WORLD is in Mathew

** the FIRST teaching of Jesus is in Mathew

** the FIRST how to PRAY by Jesus is in Mathew

** the teaching of RAPTURE by Jesus is in Mathew

** how Jesus regard his FOLLOWERS when they talk about Maria is in Mathew

** how Jesus called HIMSELF(son of man,son of David,Prophet) is in Mathew

** how Jesus said he did not know the actual time of end time is in Mathew

** who Jesus said we should WORSHIP is in Mathew

** who Jesus said a CHURCH belong to,is in Mathew ( not church of christ)

JESUS i love you so much and i love your teaching but Jesus why did you allow people to twist the Bible to their own version and taste,cele fight with cherubum,CAC,Reedeem and other churches argue with Jehova witness and they all REBUKE Catholic, all this thing is as a result of twisting it to my taste.

I wish i can hand the first Bible, i will learn the language.


Dont forget the TOPIC: where in the Bible did Jesus called himself GOD[/quote]I have showed you all where Jesus called himself God in the bible.

It is written John 10:33-38. " The Jews answered him,saying For a good work we stone thee not;but for blasphemy; and because that thou, BEING A MAN,MAKEST THYSELF GOG.
Jesus answered them ,is it not written in your law ,I said , ye ared gods?If he called them gods,unto whom d word of God came,and the scripture cannot be broken;Say,ye of him,whom the Father hath sanctified,and sent into the world,Thou blasphemest;because I said,I am the son of God?If I do not the works of my Father;believe me not.But if I do,though ye believe not me,believe the works :that ye may know,and believe that the Father is in me and I in him."

If you were accused publicly of stealing and you did not deny it, but instead,you started explaining the reasons that made you to steal,you have indirectly accepted that you are a thief,God forbid.

It is clear from the above that Jesus did not deny it that he is God. The jews wanted to stone him because he called himself God.
This was strange to the Jews,as it it strange to you too.
So was it to me,infact I saw it as an abomination b4 God showed me my ignorance.

Just ask yourself why are the christians seeing Jesus as God.Please note! He is not God Almighty,the Father,the creator of the heaven and the earth.
As I always say,a young lion is a lion.
Jesus the son of God is a God.The Jews wanted to stone him because he called himself the son of God.The reason the Jews gave ;from the above bible passage,for wanting to stone him was "thou call thyself God when you are a man"

There is no more reason asking for d bible reference where Jesus said he is God.
It is in the above verses.

A bribe is money or favour given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust.

If bribery would or can influence your judgment, conduct and decisions ,then there is no doubt ,it is bad.

In 1Sam8:3" And his sons( Samuel'sons ) walked not in his ways ,but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes and perverted judgment".

1Samuel 12:3 "Behold here I am ;witness against me b4 the Lord ,& b4 his anointed:whose ox have I taken ?or whom have I defrauded? Whom have I oppressed?or of whose hand have I received any bribe to blind mine eyes therewith?

Job 15:34 " For the congregation of hypocrites shall be desolate , & fire shall consume the tabernacle of bribery."

Psalm 26:9-10" Gather not my soul with sinners,nor my life with bloody men:In whose hands is mischief ,& their right hand is full of bribes.
Isiah 33:15-16" He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly ;he that despiseth d gain of oppressions,that shaketh his hands from from holding bribe,that stoppeth his ears from hearing evil.........He shall dwell on high....
Amos 5:12"For I know your manifold trangressions and your mighty sins :they afflict d just ,they take bribe and turn aside the poor in gate from the right.

From the above passages of the bible,it shows clearly that taking or giving of bribe is wrong.
If it is wrong to take bribe because you the reciever sees it as bad,then it you give it to someone ,you have indirectly make the person to sin against God.
A spoilt food which you cannot eat should not be given to your enemies, talkless of your neighbour.

Prov17:8 Says a bribe is a charm. A charm is like a magic spell.A magic ,as we know,is d devil's way of performing miracles.He wants to copy God at all costs. As a charm,it would make the reciever to do the wrong thing he would not have done in his right mind.This veerse goes further to say "wherever he turns,he succeds".How can that be? Other bible passages condemned bribery, but saying that an it helps the giver to succeed in everything he does is contradictory to the above passages.

Quoting from King James.Prov.17:8 Says " A gift is as a precious stone in d eyes of him that hath it:whithersoever it turneth ,it prospereth.
The writer of Proverb might have meant or righty written "gift", but is wrongly quoted as "bribe" in NIV version.

Also in Prov 21:14.What king james used instead of bribe is a reward.

Even if the original word was "bribe",we should know from what Jesus said that ,if you want to give God a gift and you can remember that you have wronged someone,it is better to drop your gift and reconcile with d person.Matt 5:24.
So,if instead of making amendment ,you prefer to give a bribe ,then it is wrong in the sight of your God.

To give or receive bribe is wrong.

ooman: Hey enilove, you got your second to the last bible reference wrong. Its not Acts 14v16-17 that contains what you quoted, its JOHN 14v16-17. Correct that. Calm down there is no pressure.

When you do, I will delete this post so dont quote it.

Peace out

Thanks for the correction.

One of the most dangerous spirits is the spirit of lies.God's judgement on liars is hell fire.

What do I mean.The devil is d father of all liars.He started in d Garden with a lie.

He is still using it perfectly until the kingdom of God will come.

What does the bible say about Kedar?
Psalm120:1-7"In my distress I cried unto d Lord,and heard me.Deliver my soul,O Lord,from LYING LIPS,and from DECEITFUL TONGUES.What shall be given unto thee?or what shall be done unto thee,thou FALSE TONGUE?Sharp arrows of d mighty,with coals of juniper.Woe is me,that I soujourn in Mesech,that I dwell in the tents of Kedar!My soul hath long dwelt with him that HATETH PEACE.I AM FOR PEACE :BUT WHEN I SPEAK ,THEY ARE FOR WAR".
That is d spirit that dwells or lives inside Kadar( the Arabs).The spirit of lying and violence.

For a better understanding of Psalm 83 which u qouted,we shall read in full:
Keep not thou sence,O God:hold not thy peace,& be not still O God.For lo thine enemies make a tumult:& they that hate thee have lifted up d head.They hav taken crafty counsel against thy hidden ones.They have said,come and let us cut them off from being a nation;that d name of ISRAEL may be no more in rememberance.(AS THE IRAN PRESIDENT SAID).For they have consulted together with one consent:they are confederate against thee:The tarbanacle of Edom(Esau d house hold enemy of Jacob),and the Ishmaelites( another house hold enemy of Isaac) and d Hargarenes (house hold enemy from d mother side).Gebal,& Ammon, & Amalek ......Do unto them as unto unto d Medianites as to Sisera,as to Jabin,at d brook of Kison:Which perish at Endor:they bcame as dung( faeces) for the earth.Verse 12 Who said,Let us take to ourselves d house of God in possession". The reference made in this passage about d Ishmaelites was that God should destroy them because they conspired against d Israelites.

Psalm 84:4-6"Blessed are they that dwell in thy house they will be still praising thee....who passing tbrough d valley of Baca make it a well ;the rain also filled the pools."
There are 3 names like this in Israel,one is Beca in the land of Galilee and another Beca in Sineptic district.There is another Baca in Jerusalem which leads to the valley of Hinnon to the north and not far from the north east of gardens in which is the house of God in Zion is built.
Baca is not mecca.Mecca has never been reffered to as being in the valley neither can it be flooded with water.A place that can be flooded with water will most times be cool.But Mecca is know as the hotest city in Saudi Arabia.
The Psalm 84 also mentioned the house of God.As at then,even if Kaaba had been existing( though it was not) could it be fererred to as the house of the God,when about 360 idols were?That was the house of Satan no doubt.
There is another Baca ,which is Barcelona Football Club.That may also belong to Mecca as well.
The bible is not complete but quran does not have all these information.Why reference to d Bible if it is not complete.
May be Allah did not know he was going to use Muhammed,if not he would have told Ishmael"write down all these for your chidrens children as reference" as God told Moses and the Israelites.

Deu18:1-2Ths priests d Levites,& all d tribes of Levi,shall have no part nor inheritance with d Israelites:they shall eat d offering of d Lord made by fire,& his inheritance Therefore shall they have no inheritance among THEIR BRETHREN:the Lord is their inheritance, as he hath said unto them.
From the above,did God not referred to the Levites as brethren to the children of Israel?

The chidren of Jacob were twelve and the bible had been referring to them as brethren.The tribes of Israel are Twelve and their inheritance was in this format.
Ishmael was not the only child Abraham had from another wife aside Sarah.Keturah was there ,she also had many children for Abraham.
Genesis 25:1" Then again Abraham took a wife and her name was Keturah.And she bare him Zimran and Jokashan and Medan.....Verse 5"Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac.....Verse 6 "But unto d sons of d concubines which Abraham had,Abraham gave gifts and sent them away from Isaac his son,while he yet lived,eastward ,unto the east country.
Isaac gave birth to Jacob and Jacob gave birth to Twelve children Genesis 42:13"And they said ,thy servants are twelve brethren,the sons of one man in the land of Canaan;and behold,the youngest is this day with our father and one is no more."

The Ishmaelites had been sent away and the children of Jacob were called brethren.

To continue to prove to you all the lies in what you wrote will amount to a waste of my time.
But I do not see any sense in using the bible, which you claimed not to be complete, as your reference point.

God would have told Ishmael and his generations after him to be keeping records of God's dealings with them.

It is the thief that will be trying to claim what does not belong to him.

Moses was referring to Jesus not Muhammed.
Jesus was also referring to the Holy Spirit not Muhammed.

John 14:16-17 "And I will pray the Father,and he shall give you another comforter,that shall he may abide with you FOR EVER.Even the SPIRIT of truth ;whom the world cannot recieve,because it SEETH HIM NOT,neither KNOWETH HIM ;but ye know him;for he DWELLETH WITH YOU,and shall be IN YOU."

Does d above attributes fit Muhammed in any way?
Is Muhammed abiding in Saudi Arabia now?Is he not dead?
Is Muhammed the spirit of truth whom the world can not receive,was Muhammed not seen .That verse says "d world cannot receive him because it seeth him not"
It also says the disciples will know him and the holy spirit shall be in them( inside them)
Was Muhammed living as at then,talkless of seeing him and living inside the disciples.

Read d book of Acts,you will read where d Holy Spirit came and d disciples started speaking in tongues.

The devil is making you people to believe his lies and you are happily consuming it.

Since you can read and write ,why must you continue in that lie?You read John,but twisted it to fit Muhammed.

All the other references you mentioned are not related to Muhammed.
Salvation for the whole world is through the Jews,Isaac.That was why Abraham sent Ishmael and his mother away, on the instruction of God, so as not to steal and destroy the plan of God for mankind.

God said "my covenant will I establish with Isaac".Gen.17:21.

Someone to be married to is diiferent from someone you are married to.This simply means, you are not yet married.She cannot be called a Mrs.

If you have a money in the bank,u cant spend it until d necessary transactions and verifications are carried out.

You can not drive or own a car because you intend to buy it in d future.

As long as you are not married to her,you have no right to cuddle or kiss her.
If people that were once married could be seperated or divorced,though against God,there is no 100 % assurance that you will eventually marry someone u wish or intend to marry.
Sister "A" was cuddled and kissed( Romanced) by Brother "A" for 6 months but was jilted for a cogent reason(s).If she gets to know Brother "B" do you think it makes sense for her get attached emotionally again.?When u kiss and cuddle,u are expressing ur feeling for each other, and for d women ,they are emotional to this than we men.

Another point is as said by Jesus in Matt 5:28" But I say "But I say unto u ,that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her commited adultery with her already in his heart". Since the marriage has not taken place,and you engage in romance,that is a lust and it a sin.

Most people avoid romance or cuddling to avoid falling into temptation.
James 1:14" But every man is tempted,when he is drawn away of his own lust,and enticed.Then when lust is hath concieved,it bringeth forth sin,and sin,when it is finished,bringeth forth death."

To avoid falling into the very act of fornication,it is betther not to get yourself in the mood.So it is advisable to avoid it completely.

Since the intention is not not make love,then there is no need for a romance,or kiss and hugging.
There is no need to sniff the food you do not intend to put in your mouth.

Thanks.

God is against divorce because of the evil consequences of it.

In Matt 5:31-32.Jesus told us that no man should divorce his wife except on the ground of adultery and whosoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

God is against divorce.Even if she is a witch,a thief,an idol worshipper,even if she does not love you and denies you of your conjugal right, you can not divorce her except on the ground of

This is my view as a christian in accordance with the bible.

A fool says in his heart that there is no God.

When you consider 2 Sam5:3 ,God gave command that any one that serves idols should be put to death.In the verse 5 God called it an act of wickedness.
In the verse 17 which you gave, God said"Neither shall he( the king) multiply wives to himself,that his HEART TURN NOT AWAY:neither shall he multiply to himself silver and gold........19 "that he may learn to fear the Lord God,to keep all the words of this law and these statutes to do them.
This indicates that this offence is not an offence purnishable by death unlike that of idolaters. God told us the reason why the king should not multiply wives,which was "that his heart turn not away from God and to fear the Lord God and keep his commandments.Those were the reasons God gave.

Now lets see whether David's heart, was, for once ,turned away from Lord God Almighty.
Psalm 17:3 reads" Thou hast proved mine heart;thou hast visited me in the night;thou hast tried me, & shall find nothing;I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress.
Psalm 18:20-23"The Lord rewarded me according to my righteousness ;according to d cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.For I have kept d ways of d Lord and have not wickedly departed from God.For all his judgement were b4 me, and I kept myself from iniquity......
Psalm 25:12 " What man is he that feareth d Lord?him shall he teach in d way that he shall choose".

From the above passages of d bible and other numerous passages,we could see that the heart of David was never turned away from God.He never worshipped any idol.He feared d Lord God.He had faith in God.God loved him because despite the many wives he had,he did not forget God.

Although he had his shorcomings too,but he never justified himself,whenever he made mistakes he would quickly acknowledged his sin and ask for forgiveness unlike Saul ,the first king of Israel.

Remember what God said to Moses "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy,and compassion on whom I will have compassion.Rom.9:15.

This is to say that if God did not count it as a sin against David because his heart was ever towards God,though he married many wives,does God not have the right to forgive him?
2Samuel 7:14-15 God told David concerning Solomon that "I will be his Father ,he shall be my son.If he commit iniquity,I will chasten him with the rod of men,& with d stripes of d children of men.But MY MERCY SHALL NOT DEPART AWAY FROM HIM,as I took it from Saul,whom I put away b4 thee.
So,if God has forgiven you of ur sins,you will be deemed righteous.
1kings15:5" because David did that which was right in d eyes of d Lord,he turned not aside from any thing that God commanded him all d days of his life,save only in d matter of Uriah the Hittite."
That is, mercy has authority to override judgement.

Marring more than one wife is not a sin,but it is a sin when the marriage creates problems for the children
,the wives and d society at large.Wicked men have exploited this to d detrement of their families.Most time children from a polygamous homes exhibits severe depression,anxiety,low self esteem,self destructive habits and violence.Polygamy gives children sense of lack of worth in a home where d father neglects the mother and d children in favour of new wife and her children.
That is why God is against polygamy.It is because of its after effect on d society and lives of d children.But if those prophets that married more than one wives could be faithful with their wives,it may be overlooked by God
Abraham had more than one wife too.It is not that it is bad or evil but it could be expoloited by wicked men.

But the act of homosexuality is a sin b4 God,God gave a direct judgement of death on them, as written in Lev20:13" If a man also lie with mankind,as he lieth with a woman,both of them have commited abomination:they shall surely be put to death.it is death also for anyman that lieth with a beast etc.

It is God that has the final say.He can use His love and mercy in favour of anyone as He wishes,and not body can ask Him why.

anonymoux: An angel of God came to my dream on October 20th 2012
She was naked, very powerful and very angry with me....
She told me ALL THE THINGS GOD CAN DO BUT DON'T DO....
I remembered just four of them...(I believe because that is what God wants me to know)
And mind you, all the things I remember are just a summary of all the things God don't do...

And They Are As She Told Me In Pidgin....

1. God no dey lie!!!!
2. God no dey cheat!!!!
3. God no dey deceive!!!!!
4. God no dey delay... When it is time, God will do it....


I know many of come and ask me questions, you just I have just the perfect answer for you....
Jesus is NOT that son of God

It was not an angel that came to you.It was a demon.The demon knows your ignorance and took advantage of it.
You are the 1st person in the world that would see a female angel.An naked one for that matter.That angel has no shame.I never read from the bible where an angel appeared naked to any prophet or man of God.unclothedness in the dream indicates shame and embarrassment.
Mark 12:25 "For when they shall rise from the dead,they neither marry,nor are given in marriage,but are as the angels which are in heaven".
What is the use of having a female angel when there is no need for intercourse.

Satan has chosen you for a bad course.He wants to use you to spread evil gospel in order to derail many and destroy their souls.

Their next asignment might be to ask you to open your own church and start this gospel.But as long as God liveth and His spirit abideth,your evil mission and that of Satan shall not see the light of the day in Jesus Christ's name.
Next time the demon comes to you,just say I rebuke you in the name of Jesus the son of the living God.

You need serious deliverances b4 you can get out of this problem,I pray that by the power in the blood of Jesus,you shall be delivered. I dont know what agreement and covenant you have gone into with power of darkness,but as a lawful captive that you are,the covenant and yoke shall be broken in Jesus name.

Go to Redeem camp guickly and narate your case to the G.O.,he will pray for you and the yoke shall be broken.

yougayz: Good morning everyone,
I can't take it anymore, in as much as i agree that the 'act' of homosexuality is not acceptable to God,I must admit that i am so much in need of your help.I have prayed,fasted done all i could, but none of it seem to have averted my unhealthy desire for men.i do agree that i am sick.
I have used this forum as a platform to spread false doctrines and staged fake claims of healings, please find a place in your heart to forgive me.
My apologies to all whom i have offended particularly striktlymi. All i need is prayers of restoration and healing for my sick soul
Thank you!

My friend,ammyluv said it all.God loves you and has a plan for your life.
I will suggest you dont tell people arround you about this.It is only God that can deliver.

If you can go to MFM prayer city,along Ibadan express way on any Monday,for a deliverance prayers.Their deliverance program is from Monday to Friday with a 3 days dry fast.You will break your fast the 3rd day b4 11 am. There is no way that you will not come here to testify to the goodness of God.
Make sure you confess all your sins to God and be determined to destroy the demon behind it."Upon mount Zion there shall be deliverance and HOLINESS and the house of Jacob shall posses its possession".So shall it be for you in Jesus name."Since the time of John the baptist the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence and the violent taketh it by force".Be violent and be determined in your spirit to see the end of the problem,and you shall overcome in Jesus name.
Pls give it a trial. God will answer you.
You are not going there to meet the pastors nor the General Overseer, but God Almighty and He will deliver you, in Jesus name.

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[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]good question. chrsitians have no answer.[/quote]God did not say that the fishes would die.God said every living creature that moves on the ground.That was the reason He did not order Noah to take with him any species of the aquatic creatures. If God chooses to preserve a fish outside the water,who can question him.Talkless of inside a salty water.
He is their creator,He can decide to preserve the fishes even in a hot lava. Was it not the lions that refused to eat Daniel that eat his enemies? The fire that refused to burn the 3 hebrews latter decided to roast to ashes those that conspired against them. The fishes you feel could not survive inside a salty or saltless water may be the water they would enjoy more during that period,because God gave His decree that the water should cooperate with all those types of fishes.He can decide to create new fishes afresh,as well.

How are u sure that God did not create new species of animals different from those Noah took into the Ark ,like Polar bear. There are more than 7,000 species of ants alone.
Are we not having new models of cars and other human inventions that were not existing 500 yrs ago?

Even if all the fishes died.Can't God recrete new species different from those in the time of Noah?

Moreover,from what you read in the bible the water that flooded the earth was from rain fall.Meaning larger quantity of the water was from the rain,because it covered the earth and the mountains to d extent that nothing from the ground could be seen,even trees.The saltness of the water would be reduced compare with the normal sea water.

The reason God asked Noah to make an Ark and keep the land animals there was because they can't survive in the water.But as for the fishes and other acquatic creatures,it is still the same water, their domain.They will survive.Would God ask Noah to build an aquarium in the ark that could contain all the sea creatures? Since God is going to use water to destroy the wicked human beings,why would'nt He preserve the animals in the water.Is there any need to destroy them?.

May be another reason why God instructed him to take some animals into the Ark was for us to know that there is need to preserve the wild -life ,for proper functioning of the ecosystem. And God cannot be happy that the works of His hands are destroyed,even though He can create them afresh including the fishes and other animals in the water.

The survival of a fish in salty or unsalted water is nothing if God could divide the sea for almost 8 hrs for the Israelites to escape on a dry land.

If you are the type that opens his or her mouth wide without caution to say things that you cant say to your parents to God,You had better come back to your senses,and beg God for forgiveness b4 it is too late.

Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free, this means that d person was ignorant of his position or his sin, but got infomation or discovered that he was wrongly positioned or discovered that he was a sinner. That discovery is what sets him free ( and the truth shall set you free).

But he has a choice not to exercise his right to freedom. He has known the truth that lying or taking bribe is bad but he just wishes or refuses to stop those sins. The person is known as a lawful captive.
Isiah 49:24 "Shall the pray be taken from the mighty or the lawful captive delivered?"
They caught a thief and put a tyre in his neck then set him on fire,as people were feeling sorry for the soul of that thief,another thief was busy picking someone's pocket among the crowed.He was there and saw what was happening to a thief like him,but he decided not to change.That is a case of a lawful captive.He knew the truth but refuses to allow that truth to set him free. He was not ignorant of his position or of what he was doing.

For someone who lies, if d person has not read in the bible that "..... and all liars, shall have their part in the lake of fire.....Rev22:8 he is ignorant of the purnishment and d consequence.He might feel it was just a small sin.But the day he hears sermon that it is a sin to lie,for that moment he is set free from that state of ignorance.He now knows the truth.He may decide not be set free and continue to lie.

So, Jesus knew what he was saying ,but it remains for you and me to accept the truth and be set free.

For some they will not accept and would remain in their bondage and some would accept and be set free.

italo: The biggest insult is when they say "we all worship the same God."

These people are serving satan...and no one else.

Only satan can love so much destruction of lives and property...not my God.

Even the quran said the christians and muslims are not worshipping the same God.surat 109:1-6.
It is too sad that most of them would know the truth when it will be too late.

We need to pray for the ones we have as friends and relatives, that God should have mercy on them and show them the right way.

[quote author=Heatblast]The bolded throws away your god's all knowning title. Hope you know?
We were'nt existing as human beings when God,was creating the earth.So how could He have known me.It was after He completed the creation of the earth He decided to create man.Likewise Eve.After God created Adam,he felt there was need to create Eve.That does not mean He is not all knowing.

God did not know that Adam would disobey Him to the detriment of his life.There was nothing like disobedience as at then.
Satan started it all by his evil imagination.

The earth can not be enjoyable if we have to do everything without appreciation of God's kindness and love in our heart..If God had created us as robot,there would'nt have been anything like disobedience and the world would have not been different from a manufacturing plant.You will eat only when God asks you to,your choices,your partners,enjoyment ,relationships,your sleeping time,your speaches etc will be controlled by God. How do you think this will please us,when we dont have a right and thought of our own.Such a human being would not please God also.

God created us and gave us the sovereign right to enjoy the world.But in total obedience to him.
That is why God said we are gods.Because He gave us life on earth to exercise supreme authority within a limited sphere and total obedience to Him.

When He created us He did not have the mind to curse Adam & Eve.He did not designed it that way.God is not a sadist.People are dying and confusion every where.It is not because God designed it that way,but for our disobedience in failing to keep to Gods instruction of THOU SHALL NOT EAT FROM THIS TREE.

Disobedience is like the sin of witchcraft.It is getting more pronounced nowadays.People want to do things their ways, they detest rules and regulation.
If given the chance one person alone in this Nigeria is ready to claim all the wealth that belong to the nation.Lawlessness everywhere.

This is not allowed in heaven,so God will not allow it for Adam or any human beings coming after him on earth either.
Holiness and gratitude is what God wants from us.
He is not a planner of evil.

Means there was a flaw in creation. Not the fault of the created but of the creator.


There is no flaw in creation.Creation is an act of inventing or production.If I set up a company and have employees,would'nt there be rules and regulations for the employees to abide with? There is a hand book for every staff for details of instructions and would serve as ready reference. If after you employed a staff ,who violates or go against the company's policy as lay down by you,dont you have the right to purnish such a staff?Is there no purnishment for misconduct?Have you done such disobedient staff evil in anyway?Does that mean you have failed in your invention?No! You can reorganize or reengineer your company for better efficency.
You will look for an obedient servant to employ and replace the disobedient servant.
That is exacly what God is doing right now.Looking for those that He will finally use and bring back His plan as designed before Adam fell.Satan the perpetrator of evil and all those that loves disobedience shall soon be terminated. But my prayer is that we the creature should not question the creator but abide by His commandment and it shall be well with our souls, in Jesus name.
God cannot fail and Has never failed.It causes God nothing to distroy the earth and create a new order,but that would mean that Satan has succeeded. That was the original plan of the devil.He did not know that there was a way out for mankind through our Lord Jesus Christ who can and reconcilled us back to God by His blood.

2Corint 5:18"And all things are of God,who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation. God cannot fail,it is Satan that has failed already.No wonder he goes about like a wounded lion seeking whom to

Thanks.

Geewan: You are a god, idols are gods, dogs are gods, lizards and every other thing he created are gods. Therefore it will be absolutely right for me to referred to you as dog. Definitely you won't buy that no matter how much you likes dogs.

I am not here to talk about whether Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is god or not, I'm here to talk about whether he is the Almighty God or not. Jesus (Isa, PBUH) is not almighty God and he will never be. He is a messenger of Allah. Jesus (Isa, PBUH) definitely didn't created heaven and earth.

Do you even know the consequence if my father is a king and I went about saying I am a king while he is still alive? The worst I can be referred to is "Omo Oba" or "Oba lola" nothing more.

Do you also know what will be the consequence for a president elect who goes about calling himself president before he is sworn in?

Even the verses you quoted get as e be. You're still begging the questions eni.

I need verses where Jesus (Isa, PBUH) said he is Almighty God.

Still waiting...

I never said Jesus is the Almighty God the creator.I did not say that.Jesus is the son of God. He also told us that he is the son of God.
And please, I did not say dogs are gods.It is written in the bible ,which i qouted. If you are created in the image of something,would it be wrong if it is said that you are like that thing. Animals are not created in the image of God,so they are not gods.

Are you clear with that ?

[quote author=wazobia_for_u]Ohhhk, thank you but dont try to play with my brain.

Is Jesus god or GOD?
Are you god(s) or GOD?

Wife sometimes called their husband small god when he suprise them with gift and workers also called their boss small gods for paying their salary

There is diff btw this is my name and this is our name, my wife is not me because she use my name as her suname

God is God[/quote]My friend,am not playing with your brain in anyway since we are sharing and trying to acquire more knowledge and understanding. There is no one that knows all. We can see an illetrate in the that can educate us on some aspect of life we do know.

Jesus is a God.But different from his father in heaven ,God the Father.Jesus is God the son and we the children of God the Father in this world are children of God and we are gods. Psalm 82:6 "I have said ,ye are gods;& all of you are children of the most High.
We are children God if we obey and do what He commands us to do.He can also disown us if we disobey him and do things contrary to what He commands.Then Satan can adopt ,those children that God disown ,as his own children and use them for his Satanic purpose and distruction. Yorubas do say"OMO ESU",meaning Satanic children or children of the devil. If Satan can have children because those people align theirselves with that of Satan,it not then wrong if God that created us say we are His children.

God is a title,and please see it as that.God did mentioned gods in the bible saverally.God gave His name to Moses and Moses told the Israelites that they should not take the name of the Lord their God in vain.For the Lord will not hold him guiltless that take his name in vain.Ex.20:7.
The real identity of anything here on earth or in heaven is the name.The trees has names,the seas have names,the animals all have names,the demons have names,Satan has name,we human beings have our names,the angels have names and God the maker of everything has His name.
Jesus said ,when he got to heaven, to John in Revelation 3:12"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,& he go no more out :& I will write upon him the NAME OF MY GOD........and I will write upon him my new NAME.

This mean that the title God is not as important as identifying which God they are refering to.It is written in 1 Cor 8:5 -6 "For though there be that are called gods,whether in heaven or in earth( as there be gods many,Lords many.) But to us there is but one God,the father,of whom are all things,& we in him; & one Lord Jesus Christ,by whom are all things,& we by him.

The second important factor is, wether we doing the will of that God?His will are written in His laws and commandments.
It is one thing to know the true God ,it is another thing to do the His will.

Thanks

Geewan: Oga enilove,

Let us keep this very simple. Paste the verse in the bible so we can see.

Are you also God as asked by wazobia?

I have answered the question of wazobia,which you can read as well.I am a god. For more understanding ,read my reply to wazobia.

The bible references you requested for are these:

1- Revelation 1:8 - 18 " I am Alpha and Omega,the biginning and the ending,said the Lord, which is and was,& which is to come,the Almighty...........verse 18 ,I am he that liveth & was dead;& behold I am alive for evermore,Amen;and have the keys of hell and of death.

2-John 10:30- "I and my father are one.Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.Jesus answered them,many good works have I shewed you fron my Father ;for which of these works do ye stone me?The Jews answered him ,saying ,For a good work we stone thee not ;but for blasphemy; & because that thou,being a man,makest thyself God.Jesus answered them ,Is it not written in your law,I said ,Ye are gods?.......verse 37- 38 "If I do not the works of my Father ,believe me not.But if I do ,though ye believe not me,believe the works:that ye may know,& believe ,that the Father is in me ,& I in the father".

The Jews wanted to stone our Lord Jesus Christ because he said he is God in the above passage.This he said indirectly by saying his father is God that created the heaven and the earth.

If follow my train of thought on this topic,you will understand better.I dont want to keep repeating the same points all over again.
I have not said Jesus is the Almighty God ,the creator of the universe,but that as God's son,he has all the attributes of his Father in heaven,and Jesus is also God,for the fact that God is a title. God refered to we His created human beings as gods.And He also called idols gods.

Thanks.

God did not designed it from the beginning that man should fall.He says my thought towards you are of good and not of evil to give you an expected end.

You asked if truly God knew us b4 d foundation earth,why did he not avert d fall of man?
The answer is:God did not know us b4 d foundation of the earth.It was after God created the earth that He dicided to create Adam and Eve.
You also asked why God did not avert the fall of man.
Answer is;God knew that there is possibility for them to want to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil,that was why God warned them from the biginning that they should not eat from the tree;& if they do,they shall surely die.
God gave we human beings the free will of mind to appreciate Him and worship Him.He did not create us as robot.We have the right to choose btw good and evil.The more resson He gave that warning to Adam. God did not expect him to disobey. Adam understood this instruction and would have rebuked the satan, if Satan had approached him directly.But Satan went through the woman.Satan knew that Adam had love for Eve to a fault, and it was his weakness. Satan exploited that weakness.
Another answer to your question is that Satan had not falling from the his position in heaven. As at the time God created Adam and Eve,there was nothing like Satan. God did not create Satan,it was when he imagined being like God that Angel Michael and other Angels drove him away from heaven.And the bible records it in Revelation 12:12-...."Woe to d inhabutants of d earth and d sea !for d devil is come unto you,having great wrath,because he knoweth that he hath but a short time"

The reason why God planted the tree in the garden; was known to God,but not for the purpose of making man to fall.It is like a father who buys a power generator for the comfort of the family.He calls the wife and the children and gave them warning not to play with the sucket when the generator is put on,if the children or the wife decides to listen to an enemy who wants to kill, them because of envy or jealousy and they got killed,can you blame the man for buying the generator?So also with God,he created the tree for a purpose not for evil.The train,the plane, the cars etc are good,but they kill if we decide to disobey the safety precautions given by the manufacturers. God loves us but does not love disobedience.

God will not send his angels to come and repel the advances of the serpent or Satan, since He had given the warnings and the consequence of the violation.Adam and Eve could easily reject the suggestion of Satan ,and he would be the only one to be cast into the lake of fire.

Satan did not compel Adam and Eve to simultaneously eat from both the tree of knowledge of good/evil and the tree of life is because it would not serve him any purpose ,but would instead hinder the work of Satan the more.What do I mean?

If Adam an Eve had eaten the from the tree of Life,they would still be alive till today,but will not be exonerated from eternal judgement in the lake of fire. And the world would have come to an end for long, thereby fast forwarding the judgement of Satan and the falling angels. Satan will not be able to decieve many because people would have known his tricks.
Adam and eve and our ancestors will have been aware of the the plans of Satan.Satan is able to carry on with his activities because he has the knowledge of the biginning of man and our family history.

Geewan: We are derailing ooo

Where is the chapter in the bible?

Still waiting...

I have explained this in my first post.It is written in John 10:25-37.

pls,read it and respond.Am waiting as well.

As a christian you are not to pick and choose among God's word but to fulfil all righteousness.

1cor 13:1-8" Though I speak with d tongues of men and angels,& have no charity,I am bcom as soundg brass,or a thinkg cymbal.And though,I hav d gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and knowledge; & though I hav all faith,so that I could remove mountains,& have not charity I am nothing.And though I bestow all my goods to feed d poor,& though I give my body to be burned,& have not charity,it profiteth me nothing.Charity suffereth long,& is kind ;charity envieth not ;charity vauteth not itself,is not puffed up........

From the above we see that charity goes beyond given your money or tithe to the poor.Part of d verse says though I bestow all my money and goods to feed the poor...and have no charity( love),it is of no use.
Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the spirit is love ,joy,peace,longsuffering,gentleness,goodness,faith,meekness,temperance:against such there is no law."

Charity, which is love, as the fruit of the holy spirit,is a must for the christians, likewise all the other fruits of the holy spirit mentioned above, b4 we can make heaven.You can not afford not to have all.

Tithe giving is part of faith in God's way of salvation.Tithe is not made only for the levites.Abraham paid tithes in Gen 14:18.
Matt 23:23 Jesus said " Woe unto u ,scribes and Pharisees!hypocrites!for ye pay tithe of mint and anuse and cummin.and have omitted the weightier matters of d law,judgement,mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done,& not to leave the other undone.

Weightier means heavier,it means more important,it means more urgent. That is ,to give preference over another.It is a degree of importance. It means it is equally important,it is also heavy. Jesus said "this ye ought to have done and not neglect the other".This means they are all necessary and non should be discarded or ommitted.This says you need to pay tithe and not neglect the other.
This above verse is a direct light to everyone.It was said by Jesus and not me.

The above Matt 23:23 shows that d pharisees do pay tithes.Matt 5:20 Jesus said "For I say unto u ,that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of d Scribes and Pharisees,ye shall not enter d kingdom of God".Jesus is telling us here that the Pharisees do obey the laws and we too must obey the laws but must do those wieghtier things they neglected.The part of the law that is not binding is the ones that relates to shedding of blood of the cattle,fowls,turtledove,young pigeons which are no longer necessary because of the blood of our Lord Jesus was shed on the cross at calvary.The same goes with circumcision or incision,the blood is shed whenever these are done,but no longer necessary because of the blood of Jesus.The payment of taxes were not given in the old testament by God,but Jesus paid tax.If not that Jesus paid tax,many christians would not be willing to pay their taxes. In Malachi ,God did not say "but you are robbing the levites"He said you are robbing "God".

If you do not pay tithe,you should be ready to do as written in Acts 4:34 "Neither was there any among them that lacked:for as many as were possessors of land or houses sold them,and brought d prices of the things that were sold."

So a christian that is thinking of his heaven will avoid anything that can hinder him from making heaven. We should not be happy because some people are making inferences from the bible about tithe,but there is no where it is written that tithe is abolished.
We knew about the gospel through the tithes and offerings of some christians not by fighting wars.

We should be careful about the doctrine of men we listened to because it is written in .2 Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine ;but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers because they have itching ears".

Since it is not written that tithe is abolished,please dont assume, because Jesus himself said it is necessary to pay it.We should not be happy because we feel the burden of tithe might not be applicable.
Let us fulfil all righteousness and leave the rest to God.God will judge the pastors that are mismanaging the church funds, instead of taking care of the poor and the needy.
We know there are fake pastors who are just after their pockets,Jesus himself knew this and warned us to beware of them.

We, on our part need to take care of the needy and the poor among us.We should not leave everything to church and pastors.We are equally guilty of this.
We should love from the heart and not lust after worldly things. We should help the less priviledged among us and must not carry the trumpet for everyone to know.

We are all expected to exhibit charity and pay our tithes with total obedience and holyness,without which no man can see God.

Thanks.

[quote author=wazobia_for_u]Now i understand ... Thank you sir


If A = B
& B = C
Then A = C (just a deductive reasoning)

You are also Son of God
Are you also GOD ?[/quote]Psalm 82:6 says " I have said,ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

All those who live a holy and sanctified life and believe that God exists are children of God and are gods, if they obey God.According to d above verse.

Yes, I am a god. Since my creator who is God that created me in His image said so.

The book of Acts 28:3-6 narrates "And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks ,and laid them on d fire there came a viper out of the heat,and fastened on his hand.And when the barbarians saw d venomous beast hang on his hand,they said among themselves,No doubt this man is a murderer,whom ,though he hath escaped d sea,yet veangeance suffereth him not to live.And he shook off the beast into fire ,& felt no harm.Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen,or fallen down dead suddenly:but after they had kooked a great while ,& saw no harm come to him ,they changed their minds,& said that he was a god.
You can see that even people in those days who were not christians understood more than some of us nowadays.They understood somethings which we dont.
"Ogun" was a human being that lived in the yoruba kingdom in d olden days ;but after his death they started worshipping him because they knew he had exra ordinary power,they call him "god of iron".
The same goes with "Sango",he was a human,but they worshipped him as "god of thunder".The worshipping of any god other than the creator ,God the Almighty, is idolatery and a sin.

The word God or god is a title used in describing a being or person that has more than natural attributes and power. Every human being has this attributes since we have a physical body ,a soul and a spirit.The spiritual part of us makes us to do things which are impossible physically. We communicate with God in the spirit,and He speaks with us from heaven and we can hear him audibly.We see visions,which is spiritual, but for a carnal person,it would seem impossible.
Witches and wizards use this their knowledge to transform into different things.They can turn into birds,cats etc.
The devil and the demons know that we human beings have power & authorities ,but most of us are ignorant of this.We have spiritual and creative powers like our Father in heaven.A ghost will always run away from any living person,unless the person is a dead living person who is too far from God but is still living.

Psalm 139:14 says "I will praise thee ;for I am fearfully and wonderfully made......
That is why the bible says "we shall decree a thing and it shall be established unto us and the light of God shall fall upon our part"

We are more than we think we are, if we move closer to God.

In Exodus 7:1 "And the Lord said unto Moses,see I have made thee a god to Pharaoh:and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

A child of God is god if he is obedient to God. As long as we are doing God's will and are faithful to Him,He will not cut us off His power and we can exercise dominion here on earth as His children and as gods.

I hope that satisfies you.

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I have a question to ask you.

Are you a christian?

ASSET for a biz man or a company is a resource controlled by an entity as a result of past events and from which future economic benefits are expected to flow to the entity.

LIABILITY is a present obligation of the entity from past events ,the settlement of which is expected to result in an outflow of resources.

For a biz person ,your house owned by you is an assets. For a non biz person, ur house which belongs to you is your property and an asset to you.It a business term to use the word ASSET,mostly for individuals who are not talking in term of their business ,they use d term "property".It is not wrong to use d term "asset".

If you live in a house as a tenant ,the house is not your asset neither is it a liability.If you have paid your rent in advance ,the amount of rent paid in advance known as prepayment is your asset or your claim.
If your rent is due,the naira value for the months yet to be settled is your liability or debts ,which will result in an outflow of your resources( money ).

I hope d above points were the area of contention.

I have a 4 blocks of 3 bedroom flat with a boys quater at Ikotun Egbe,Lagos. Can anyone enlighten me on how to secure a loan from a bank without requesting for a C of O. The other documents like approved plan ,receipts and deeds of agreements are available.

Thanks

AMEN and AMEN

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That is a wicked suggestion.
What is the guy's offence ?

If anything should happen to him,we are going to hold u responsible.