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advocate666: The useless being was confessing to moses and the isrealites.

If a sane person goes to the river to swim and some minutes later an insane person gets there and takes hold of the cloth of the person that is swimming, and starts to run with the clothes in his hand. The best thing to do is stay inside the water and wait till someone comes and get him another clothes.Running after the mad man would make people to call the two of them mad men.
There is no use to answer this fellow, I will not take it kindly if anyone makes this statement to my earthly father, how much more my God. If you know that you are created by God,dont respond to this satanic agent "666". He has not hidden his identity.He believes in the bible thats the reason he chose "666" as his identity.
The devil believes the bible and can quotes the bible.He tempted Jesus with the word of God.

It is written,"answer not a fool according to his folly,lest thou also be like unto him"
"As he that bindeth a stone in a sling,so is he that giveth honour to a fool.
" If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man,whether he rage or laugh,there is no rest.

Do not be fooled this person that says his an "advocate of 666" is truely pleading the cause of the "beast".
Beware and stop responding to his threads.
His an agent of the beast-666 , he is a satanic agent.This he has told you.

The anti christ is here,it is not a joke.

Your thithe is meant to be taking to church.The church will not exist if there are no funds to manage it.

Affiliated: Thank you for your prayer and I pray the same for you. I am not in support of violence or religious wars. i am not in support of the evils done in the name of religion either.

As regards your request 1 Samuel 15:3 When God was supposedly speaking to Saul. Just the way God is supposedly speaking to Boko Haram and so on

3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’

In Exodus 17:1-16 When God brought the Israel out of Egypt ,the Amalekites went to where the Israelites where camoung and started war with the Israelites without any offence what so ever from the Israelites.
The Amalekites did not want the plan of God to be fulfiled in the lives of the Israelites.
The Amalekites where the children of Esau, that sold his birth right to Jacob.The enmity had been long between them since when Jacob got the blessings, by trick, from Isaac their father which was meant for Esau.(a case of house hold enmity)
After many generations have passed and the exit of the Israelites from Egypt, the Amalekites,which were like brothers to Israel,went and attacked them instead of rejoicing with them.So in verse 14 ,God told moses that he would destroy the Amalekites completely from under the heaven,because they wanted to destrupt the plan God had for the Israelites.
He promised Abraham in Geneses 17:2-10.( verse reads " And I will give to you and your offspring after you d land of your sojourning,all the land of Canaan,for an everlasting convenant,to be God to you and your offspring after you. In Geneses 15:13-15."God told Abraham that his offspring shall sojourn in a land that is not theirs and will be sevants there for 400 yrs, and promised them the land of Canaan.

To cut the whole story short,the Amalekites allowed the devil to use them by attacking the Israelites so that the Israelites will not be able to possess the promised land.Then God made a promise to wipe them away.It was in the time of King Saul that God remembered His promise and commanded King Saul to carry out His Judgement.
Even God told Pastor E.A. Adeboye ,
when he was about to start his ministry, that the day he becomes proud and disobeys Him,he would wipe him out of the face of the earth and no body would remember that there was anybody ever called Adeboye.This was the direct voice of God that he heard. God is no respecter of persons as long as that person is evil.He created the earth and has a purpose for it.

Back to the point ,it was d Amalekites that made theirselves the enemies of the Israelites as explained above .In those days wars were the order of the day more especialy the issue of Land.Even amang the yorubas here too.

Without the intervention of God ,the Israelites would have attacked them back b4 then.There was no nation in the world that did not went through various territorial battles ,which brought about the 1st and 2nd world war. Muhammed fought battles too, even in his own town.

Those wars ,conflicts fightings and qaureling, strives were not the original plan of God for man kind, but the plan of Satan.
If everyone takes the law into his or her own hand,there will be tribal,religious etc wars and innocent children, women and properties will be wasted.

When Jesus came he told us to seek peace with all men.He told us not to hate our enemies,not to revenge, and we must love our neighbours ad ourselves. We must strive to behave like the children,without wish no one can make heaven.
It was in acts of apostle 11:26 that the name christian first came up.Meaning one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus christ .As Jesus says in matt 5:9" Blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called the children of God.One that follows the teachings of Jesus and practices it is a christian.

The then Israelites were not called christians .The law of Moses was their doctrine benchmark ,pending the coming of Jesus ,who came about 1300 years after Moses.The law of Moses was "an eye for an eye".And moses and other prophets confessed that the christ would come.That was why they asked John "are you the christ?.

The above bible reference you gave came before the era of Jesus Christ. Jesus came about 1,300 years after the event.
Christians will not do that because Jesus did not teach violence neither did he practice it.

God cannot speak to the Boko Aram to go and kill innocent people when He did not give such commandment to Jesus .

One thing is certain,no sinner will go unpurnished,whether here on earth or in hell.

Assume some satanic people gather together and say they are fighting for the spread of christianity or fighting for Jesus ,and approach a children muslim school and kill them all. Would the parents of such children be happy that their children are wasted .

It is evil to love violence even if you dont take part in it.A true child of God would not take the law into his own hands.

We should not allow satan to create religious war in this nation.It is knocking little by little. You cant be happy with me if I say bad things about your religion.
Likewise will I be happy with you when you say bad things about mine .That is the way it always start, as in Mali and other unsettled nation.
Face your God and others will face theirs.

Then there will be peace.

Thanks.

Affiliated: Thank you for your prayer and I pray the same for you. I am not in support of violence or religious wars. i am not in support of the evils done in the name of religion either.

As regards your request 1 Samuel 15:3 When God was supposedly speaking to Saul. Just the way God is supposedly speaking to Boko Haram and so on

3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’

In Exodus 17:1-16 When God brought the Israel out of Egypt ,the Amalekites went to where the Israelites where camping and started war with the Israelites without any offence what so ever from the Israelites.
The Amalekites did not want the plan of God to be fulfiled in the lives of the Israelites.
The Amalekites where the children of Esau, that sold his birth right to Jacob.The enmity had been long between them since when Jacob got the blessings, by trick, from Isaac their father which was meant for Esau.(a case of house hold enmity)
After many generations have passed and the exit of the Israelites from Egypt, the Amalekites,which were like brothers to Israel,went and attacked them instead of rejoicing with them.So in verse 14 ,God told moses that he would destroy the Amalekites completely from under the heaven,because they wanted to destrupt the plan God had for the Israelites.
God promised Abraham in Geneses 17:2-10.( verse reads " And I will give to you and your offspring after you d land of your sojourning,all the land of Canaan,for an everlasting convenant,to be God to you and your offspring after you. In Geneses 15:13-15."God told Abraham that his offspring shall sojourn in a land that is not theirs and will be sevants there for 400 yrs, and would later bring them out with great sign and lead them to the promised land of Canaan.

To cut the whole story short,the Amalekites allowed the devil to use them by attacking the Israelites so that the Israelites will not be able to possess the promised land.Then God made a promise to wipe them away.It was in the time of King Saul that God remembered His promise and commanded King Saul to carry out His Judgement.
Even God told Pastor E.A. Adeboye ,
when he was about to start his ministry, that the day he becomes proud and disobeys Him,he would wipe him out of the face of the earth and no body would remember that there was anybody called Adeboye.This was the direct voice of God he heard. God is no respecter of persons as long as that person is evil.He created the earth and has a purpose for it.

Back to the point ,it was d Amalekites that made theirselves the enemies of the Israelites as explained above .In those days wars were the order of the day more especialy the issue of Land.Even amang the yorubas here too.

Without the intervention of God ,the Israelites would have attacked them back b4 then.There was no nation in the world that did not went through various teritorial battles ,which brought about the 1st and 2nd world war. Muhammed fought battles too, even in his own town.

Those wars ,conflicts fightings and qaureling, strives were not the original plan of God for man kind, but the plan of Satan.
If everyone takes the law into his or her own hand,there will be tribal,religious etc wars and innocent children, women and properties will be wasted.

Then that was before Jesus christ.When Jesus came he told us to seek peace with all men.He told us not to hate our enemies,not to revenge and that we must strive to behave like children,without wish no one can make heaven.
It was in acts if apostle 11:26 that the name christian first came up.Meaning one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus christ .As Jesus says in matt 5:9" Blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called the children of God.One that follows the teachings of Jesus and practices it is a christian.

The above Israelites were not called christians then.The law of Moses was their doctrine then ,pending the coming of Jesus who came about 1300 years after Moses.The law of Moses was "an eye for an eye".And moses and other prophets confessed that the christ would come.That was why they asked John "are you the christ?.

The above bible reference you gave came before the era of Jesus Christ. Jesus came about 1,300 years after the event.
Christians will not do that because Jesus did not teach violence neither did he practice it.

God cannot speak to the Boko Aram to go and kill innocent people when He did not give such commandment to Jesus .

The devil is the manufacturer of lies.It will not be surprising if the claim they too can hear from God.
One thing is certain,no sinner will go unpurnished,whether here on earth or in heaven. Osama bin Ladin made many people to die untimely death,but in the end he was killed also and got many innocent people in Afghanistan killed too.

Assume some satanic people gather together and say they are fighting for spread of christiany or fighting for Jesus ,and approach a children muslim schools and kill them all. Would the parents of such children be happy that their children are wasted .

It is evil to love violence even if you dont take part in it.A true child of God would not take the law into his iwn hands.

Affiliated: But i have. And such records are even in the bible.

Tell me where you have seen such.You can state where it is in the bible.
I dont pray for evil to happen to any of your loved ones, are you in support of violence of religious war? Because I cant see the point you are making.

If know of any christisn group like Boka Haram ,post it and make direct reference of where christians are killing in the bible.

Affiliated: ^Are you saying Christianity has never killed people in the name of spreading and defending their gospel?

I have never seen any nor heard of such .Especialy at the levil of the likes of Boko Haram ,Jambs etc

jmaine: Interesting . . . . .

No evil power can kill you when the God Almighty is on the throne and you are living a holy life that pleases Him
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Stay blessed.

Mrs mansson: I am familiar with abefe the writer.she is fond of making excuses for every wrong she has done in the past.blame her ex husband for her marriage that didn't work.always looking for one to put the blame on.

It is easy to destroy than to amend.If she had gotten the right foundation ,why would she want to pass a blame on anyone.She just made a confession about her past and gave her advice to other parents to learn from ,thats all.
Even grown up children of 18 years can follow bad freinds if they feel neglected and unloved.

Every parent should take a clue from that.

braine: The story is sad. But as some get spoiled, some get better; and it depends on the person. At age 11, one should know a bit of right from wrong. Its not every good person was taken care by their parents and not everyone neglected that turn bad.

Using myself as an example; one one at home cared what my grades where in school - secondary school through university - all they knew was that I was advancing. But that didn't gimme the excuse to be unserious and depend or associate with bad friends as I knew its all about me; and its name that will be on my certificates and not my parents or my guardian.

A child will turn out to be what they want to be, whether their parents are around and attention paying or not.

I think its the writer that should be blamed for her outcome as I believe her parents put her welfare in place before she was sent to the UK.

Have you ever been starved before? You reply is like you practice such yourself.
All she was trying to say is that parents should be responsible.If you dont need children do not bring them to the world because God will ask from you what you did with their lives.
Only God can save this world, where we have irresponsible father,mother and govenment.

Affiliated: ^^ Both Islam and Christianity are similar. The same thing you did for the quran, I can also do that for the bible. They are both full of contradictions

Christianity and Islam are not the same in any way,and shall never be the same, because it is written in 2cor6:15"what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteouness and what communion has light with darkness. What concord hath Christ with Belial?or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?.
I have given the sura where Allah said we christians are not worshipping the same God as Allah.

That is why we can not have satanic group like Gboko Aram before we can spread our gospel.No sane person would seat down and device how he will go to an office or place of worship and detonate a bomb in their midst,and be shouting God is great. Osama bin ladin and his group did it against Americans by destroying the world trade centre,killing about 4,000 innocent peoole ,but he himself was afraid of death.

Nigeria has not descriminated against any religion,so why all these killings?
By their fruit you shall know them.

We the Christians will never face a direction and pray towards the direction.We also know that ablution is of no use if we harbour hatred in our heart against our fellow human.
What ever religion anyone belongs ,if it is the right religion or not ,God's judgement is there for everyone to face.
Practice what you believe but it should not disturb others from practicing what they believed in.
Let God be the judge of all.

I was not there when God called the Lord Jesus Christ neither where you there when Angel Gariel spoke with Muhammed, but I know I have a creator and it is my responsibility to ask him in prayers which way I must follow.I know that my God has ears and have mouth likewise eyes. He hears my prayers and should speak to you concerning your religion b4 the day of accountability comes.

If my bible is full of contradiction and the quran is also full of contradictios as you said,why did the poster of this thread left d contradiction in their quran and was complaining of the bible.

If quran is not translated into different languages and the bible is translated into many languages for the users understanding,what head ache is there for anybody. We love it that way and we are thankful for the God's inspiration for that.
We dont memorize our bible but meditate on what we read ,so as to do according to all that is written theerein.

Our bible say in Hebrew 12:14 " follow peace with all men,and holiness,without which no man shall see the Lord."

We all should be able to live peacefully together as a nation. God did not create us as robot ,so we have the power to say no to any suggestion of the devil.
We should stop posting nonsence that can degenerate into what we do not bargain for.

Thanks.

[quote author=O'Pearl]I really need your Advice, shuld a child of God work wit a ToBAcco compAny? Plz put into consideration d fAct dat d job is well paying![/quote]It is not advisable to neglect God in whatever we want to do in this life.
What I mean by that is that whenever you are confronted with issues like :
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Choosing a carreer,
choosing a spouse ,
Choosing a place of residence
Choosing a place of work
Deciding on traveling abroard for parmanent stay etc,there is need to pray to God for His guidance.

It is not everybody that is destined to be an accountant,lawyers etc.You must know the plan of God for your life before choosing.

The same thing goes for wife ,the sevant of Abraham prayed to God before God showed that Rebecca was the choosing one.

You need to pray to know the mind of God regarding accepting the offer or not.

Well in case you are not sure that God can reveal anything to you,then you can consider the foll that:

God might be looking at it from the angle that , whether Tayo ,my son, works in this tobacco coy or not ,the coy will still continue to produce the cigarettes any way, so, it might not be a sin.

Another point is that God might not be happy with the coy because of the souls that are destroyed through smoking & and might say if nobody works in this coy the cigarette production would stop and smokers would not have what to smoke ,and some might leave it for ever.

Even if God does not like what is being produced in that coy ,He can still make the place a stepping stone for me to break yoke of joblessness in my life and get some yrs of working experience before providing a better place for me.You can think like that also

You can accept the job and set for yourself a maximum period you wish to stay in the company, and be praying to God to provide a better place for you in the nearest future where your conscience will not disturb you.

God promoted Joseph in a foreign land of Egypy to save many lives including his father Jacob, despite the fact that the Egyptians were idol worshippers .

The best thing is to pray b4 jumping to conclusion,but if nothing is revealed to you, then go for the job.

If you want to remove the broom stick in another person's eye ,you must first remove the plank in your own eye.
I will explain the differences in the bible to you as time goes on,but lets see the lies in the quran first.

LIES IN THE QURAN

Who brings the revelation of the quran to mohammed, in sura sura 2:97 it says Angel Gabriel,but in sura 16:102 it says the Holy spirit. The quran as a book is questionable.

Who was the first muslim?sura 6:14, muhammed,sura 7:143 says moses,sura 26:51 says some Egyptians,sura 2:127 says Abraham. This is a clear case of lies.

Quran forbids believers to marry idolatrous women in sura 2:221. In sura 9:28-33 calls christians idolaters but in sura 5:5 It allows muslims to marry christians.

In sura 2:29 earth was the first creation then heaven, in sura 79 :27-30 heaven and after that earth.

What was man created from.A blood clot in sura 96:1-2,water sura 21:30, 24:45, burned clay in sura 15:26, dust in 3:59,30:20. in sura 19:67 nothing. which one are we to believe.

Why did Allah make mistakes in the writing of the quran as in sura 2:106, sura 16:101. which says"And when we put a revelation in place of another revelation.......they say thou art but inventing .Most of them know not.(abrogation.)

Will Christians enter Paradise or hell? Sura 2:62 & 5:69 said yes, but in sura 5:72 says no insura 3:85

Who misleads people SATAN OR ALLAH? In sura 4:119-120 it says satan but in sura 16 :93 it says Allah.
Allah truely speaking is leading muslims away towards hell.

How many mothers does a muslim have?Only one(sura 58:2), or two (sura 4:23)or ten(sura 33:6)

Was pharaoh killed or not by drowning? sura 17: 102-103 says Pharaoh was killed in the red sea, but sura 10:90-92 says pharaoh was saved.

Can God have a son without a consort?In 19:20-21 says yes, but in sura 6:101 it says no.

You can resite the whole of the quran without knowing a single thing about it, that is why Allah told you in sura
19:70-72 that every muslim will first go to hell b4 they wilk be rescued from hell.

Does Allah's day equal to 1,000 human years(sura 22 47,or 50,000 human years (sura 70:4)

Should muslims show kindness to their parents?yes in sura 17:23-24, 31 :14-15.But no in sura 9 :23 ,sura 58:22.

There are still about 120 others lies like those above in the quran.

A true child child of God knows that the quran is not a holy book if :
If the quran could allow Muhammed to marry his adopted sons wife as in sura 33:37 which says "when he has performed that necessary formality of divorce from her ,we gave her unto thee (Muhammed) in marriage.

But Jesus christ says in Matt 5:32 "But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife ,except on the ground of sexual immorality ,makes her to commit adultery,and who ever marries a divorced woman commits adultery".
This was Jesus speaking about 500 years b4 Muhammed .His birth was by the holy spirit and he showed and performed many miracles like raising the the dead ,opening the eyes of the blind casting out demons etc,which could not have been possible if God was not with him.
It is not surprising why Allah allow Muhammed to be indulging in sexual immoralities.Sura 109:3 says that the christians and the muslims are not worshipping the same God.
If the Allah in the quran ,sura 3::45 said to Mary that "Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him,whose name is the messiah,Jesus Christ ,son of Mary.
And in verse 48 reads" And He will teach Jesus the scripture and wisdom,and the Torah and Gospel.
If truely Allah was the one that taught Jesus the the gospel, and Jesus said "no adultery and one man one woman,why would the same Allah said again to muhammed and his followers to mary more than one wife.Definetely the Allah should be a confusionist.

But I thank God Almighty that the quran made the mistake and said we christians are not worshipping the same God as Allah , sura 109:3.
Is it not written also in sura 53:19 -20 "Have ye thought upon Allat and Al uzza and Manat ,the third ,the other ?Are yours the males and His the female?That indeed were unfair division.

Note the difference between Allat and Allah. It is a naming tradition for the Arabs to differentiate the male from the female by adding letter "t" to the names of their female children. for example Mutiat for female and mutiu for a male.Rashidat ,Risikat.etc.Thats why historicaly the goddess Allat was one of the idols the quarish(muhammed tribe) used to worshipped.

Allah was among the 360 idols that were in the kaaba ,which Muhammed still mantained.That is the reason every muslim most bow and worship Allah god that is in the kaaba.What can be so special about the Kaaba that ,during Haj pilgrimage, everyone would have to circle it for 7 good times and must kiss the black stone on the wall of the kaaba or point their hands towards it .Does that not signifies idolatery.Is God living in the Kaaba?

Sura 11 also says the throne of Allah is upon the water.

Please if you will not accept the lord Jesus who your quran calls "messiah"as the saviour of your sins,you can continue with the worshipping of your idols and stop hindering others from the kingdom of God.Are you not slaves?

Jesus Christ told the pharasees "that the pharasees did not want no enter into the kingdom of God and they would not allow others to go in either.

Continue with your muhammed who married 12 wives and a 9 years old girl at the age of 54 yrs and also the wife of his adopted son ,as stated in the quran qouted above.Your quran in sura 33:50 says "it is okay to have sex with women captured during war that their( captives) right hand possessses.(rape).He did not produce any miracle but claimed his miracle in is the quran, which is full of errors and historical blunders etc.That was why he copied the historical facts he read in the bible into the quran ,because people world wide knew God called Moses,and believed him and Jesus Christ cos of the miracles.

He said in sura 2:41 "And believe in that which I reveal ,confirming that which ye possess already(of the scripture- bible),and be not first to disbelieve.....

Who gave the arabs the bible?.

Pray that God Almighty that created you should show by dreams or revelation ,if it is Christianity that is the way or Islam. If you love your self please pray ,so that the devil will not harvest your soul.

Bidam: this was were you started your biased statements against me..like i said initially from the start...it is about knowing wat the word of God is saying on this issues...wetin con join my pastor hia with this matter?..if you have denominational issues..settle it with GOD NOT me..am not creating this thread to attack any denominations ok? wat i mentioned about adventist and JW...were actually statements from an online website..i can give you the links if you want..

Have you answered the questions?You can take your time to respond to harmless comments,what then is the reason why you have dicided not to comment on the questions,if you now what the word of God is saying.
Did you not read bookmark's comment?

You are trying to avoid the questions again by your comments above .Please we are waiting for your answer.That is the main issue not looking for faulty comments to harmmer on.

Am sorry if you view my comment as being biassed. I do not attend 7 day adventist nor Jehovah witness, and I also do not have any thing against them.
They know what they believe in ;I also respect the Jehovah witness.

Jesus is not going to ask us our denomination in heaven.

Please post your comments on the questions on page 4.

This is the third times you are avoiding these questions and picking on the irrelivant matters.

I hope you will post your answers now ,please.

Bidam: wrong again..wen God removed my stony heart to give me a hrt of flesh..you ain't there bro..do you think its online i will change by arguments? Just like boomark said..am getting it clearer now..let the word of God speak for itself not your opinions.

Wonders shall never end.
I asked you some questions on page 4 ,but you keep avoiding the answer.Why?

When you saw my qestions ,instead of answering them you avoided the subject and said ,I quote"abeg Johavah advocates...make una take am easy on me na only me against d world? ha ba.

Bookmark made the following comment b4 you posted that reply. he said "Bidam cannot give a truthful answer ,likewise the trinitarians.He ignored this verse from ijawkid at d first page .He will come here and tell you d definition of "temple" instead of telling you who Jesus was calling his father.

For the second time on the same on thread and same question, instead of going sraight to the matter at hand you started talking about" When God removed your stony heart ..........",and never made mention of the questions regarding what you believed in. Why?

Bookmark knew you would not answer .Does it mean you are not truthful with yourself, because you must have read the bible references and could see that you are wrong. You said "do you think its online I will change by arguments?

If you can not change online through arguments ,why then did you start this new subject and mentioning a church denomination online.If you did not expect people to have a change of opinion why then have you come online?People do give their lives to God online, and people can through our comments online decide to abandone God, if they are confused.

A child of God ,who knows that the way of life is above to the wise so as to depart from hell beneath ,will not mind what people would say,but will be honest to himself even if saying the truth would lead to death for him.Because he is spiritualy conscious of his salvation.If a christian cannot be more righteous than the pharisees,he can not make heaven.
The muslims keep saying ,out of ignorance though,that Jesus christ is not the son of God. It takes the holy spirit and prayers b4 some of them are changing.
The devil and its agents knows what they are doing,and the bible has warned us not to be ignorant of the devices of the devil. Some children of the bond have already been making bad comments.

Remember that every unrighteousness is a sin. No body can hid his sin from God and even the devil and his agents.Jesus Christ said if we have lust in our heart towards the opposite sex ,we have already commited adultery.The sin will be registered even if not know to the other person.

In summary, please respond to the qustions I asked on page 3 so that we can know where the srcrete is.

The bible says my people perish for lack of knowledge. Amos 4:3.

Even if the money is available you do not have to pay.No true man of God will request for money from any one for prayers.
If you have any of the following churches around you,go there, they will come and pray with you for free:

Mountain of fire and miracles ministry,
Deeper Life bible church ,
Four square Gospel church,
Redeem Christian church of God,
Christ Apostolic church etc.

Most white garment pastors would ask for money, but it is not biblical.

The best thing to do is this:

1-Rededicate your life to God ,by confessing your sins and ask God to forgive you.( repent of your sins.)
2- Accept the Lord Jesus Christ into your Life as your personal Lord and saviour.
3 - confess zechariah 2:5,Psalm 3, & 24. then cover yourself and your families with the blood of Jesus and the protective fire of God

Then pray the prayers below:

Father pls send your angels to be 24 hrs daily round this compound in Jesus name.

I soak every grain of sand that forms part of the soil of this compound in the blood of Jesus.

Let the foundation,the roof and the walls of this house be covered with the blood of Jesus.

I dislodge and bind every evil mixture in the concrete of this house in Jesus name.

Father,send your angels to exhume any property of the devil that may have been buried in the ground of this compound (or your flat or room which ever is applicable) and make a bonfire of them in Jesus name.

Blood of Jesus ,fall like showers upon this compound ,properties etc.

Holy Ghost fire ,incubate and take full control of this environment etc.

I cancel any curse that must have been uttered against this compound etc and its contents with the blood of of Jesus and I loose this compound.... from its power in Jesus name.

Let any evil remote control wave directed towards this compound be roasted in Jesus name.

Father,let the blessings of heaven fall like rain upon this house and its occupants in Jesus name.

I cancel every coscious or unconscious curse uttered by unhappy construction workers in Jesus name.

Pray the wall of fire around the land or house . And as the spirit of God leads you.

Am not so sure of the nature of the problem ,but the fact is that God said that "We shall decree a thing and it shall be established and the light of God shall fall upon our path"

It is better to pray with your mouth than to always rely on Pastor,who may be satanic of fake pastors or prophets , to pray for you. And if problems arise at any other time in the future you will still need to wait till they come,which may be too late for any urgent problems.

You may give a man of God money but it must be from your heart and not by demand.When you give, the lord will bless you also.

Attend any bible believing church around you and make sure you live a holy life .

Bidam: i can see you are enjoying my thread..who is uncorrelated.?you are, cos you want to believe a lie..thanx..

Am enjoying your thread but not your hard unchanged heart .I was expecting you to say,thank my brothers but,what do we get instead? No way No way i no go agree for them even say na true dem dey talk.

Tell me the meaning of these verses:

Revelation: 2:18 These things saith the son of God........
Revelation:3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,and he shall go no more out : and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God,which is a new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God.
Revelation 3: 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,even as I also overcame ,and am set with my father in his throne.

Who is the speaker in the above verses?
Why the phrase"the son of God" mentioned again in heaven .
What is the meaning of"my God"

Please be thruthful with yourself, because every unrighteousness is a sin.

You have made enough points backed up with biblical references, but he keeps coming back with more uncorrelated references,trying to confuse himself the more.

Is like he has a pastor whom he respects so much that believes such,so he feels the pastor knows all and can not be wrong.

Thanks so much for your effort which has been very helpful.

Stay blessed

ijawkid: Eni are you mistaking me for BIDAM........??..........na BIDAm you suppose arrest not me o....we are on the same path.......

Am very sorry for the mistake.
Thanks ,may God bless you.

[quote author=i.chuka]Let me ask you same questio
n I asked your group.
What's your undxerstanding of the theme/tittle the FATHER and the SON?[/quote]Father means
- A man who has begotten a child
- One that originates
- One of the leading men
Son means:
- A descendant
- A male adopted child
- A person closely related with.

This your assumption can lead people away from Christianity.It can make people to think that there is no God .You following the doctrine of the devil and you have to be very very careful,so that on the day of judgement Jesus will not tell you that you are on your own.
You tend to abandon written and direct word of God and you are following what some Pastors have told you in the past.
God is a spirit and the angels are spirit beings,the devil is a spirit too.By spirit does not mean they do not have physical bodies.Their physical bodies are heavenly bodies.Every human beign is a spirit inside earthly body.
The fact that God is a spirit does not mean that He does not have a throne.If you belief Jesus Christ word in Rev.1:8 ,why cant you believe what he said about his throne and also that he has God,also that his God has throne .There too many countless number of places where Jesus and apostles tells of Father in heaven.You have also read that God gave Jesus christ name that is above all name.
We have explained also to you that God,Almighty,Alpha,Omega,Lord etc are titles.
When Jesus christ in Rev 1:11 said he is the Alpha and Omega,John turned to look at who was talking and said in verse 13 that the one looks like the SON OF MAN. Matt 11:19,12:8 etc Jesus called himself son man man.God the father of Jesus never came in the human flesh and can never be called son of man as John refers here.
The same Jesus said in chapter 3 verse 14 that he is the bigining of the creation of God,and verse 11 Jesus also said "the temple of my "verse 12 also, Jesus said "I will write upon him the name of my God. Jesus is telling that ,despite his title Alpha and Omega ,he has God the father and that Jesus is the first of Gods creation.This you can also see in proverb 8:22 which reads"The lord possessed me in the biginning of his way,before his works of old.23, "I was set up from everlasting ,from the biginning or ever the earth was.

What does it mean to possess ( verse 22), it means to controll,to influence,to have something,to have and hold as property,to seize and take control of.
Jesus said as above he belongs to God Almighty.If you read futher you will see it written.
Rev 1:verse 18 where Jesus called himself "the first and the last ,he said AM HE THAT LIVETH,AND WAS DEAD,AND BEHOLD AM,I AM ALIVE FOR EVERMORE.
Note the word "was dead".God the father did not die at any time ,only Jesus christ died for our sins. For God so love the world that He gave His........,John 3:16.
It is not written "that he gave himself".
Rev Chapter 4:2 "And immediately I was in d spirit:and behold ,a throne was set in heaven,and one sat on the throne(but you said God does not have a throne) verse 4 reads "And round about d throne were four and twenty seats :and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting ,clothed in white raiment.............in verse 8 it reads Holy holy holy Lord God Almighty ,which was ,and is,and is to come(not that was dead).
Then in Chapter 5 :1 And I saw in the rught hand of him that sat on the throne a book : written within.............in Verse 5 says " weep not :behold ,the lion of the tribe of Judah the root of David ,hath prevailed to open the book.
Jesus is from the root of David .The blind barthemeus cried " Jesus son of David help me".
Because he came and died for us because of our sins :Jesus has 3 stages in his life
1-when God first created him even b4 God created anything else.
2-When Adam and eve sinned and God, out, of His love for us ,Jesus was sent down to come and die for our sin.( not God the Father )
3- Now in heaven to live for evermore.
These 3 stages are with biblical references which have been given earlier.
Instead of God the father to come down and die for us He would instead destroy mankind and start with newly created set of people.But that would mean that God failed and satan would have achieved his aim.
There is no reconcilliation for the angels and the devil.God chose to forgive us the sins Adam and Eve commited because they were deceived.But God did not make a way of reconcilliation for the angels because they chose to sin willingly.So the devil and the falling angels who are now demons would do everything to take as many people as willingly decide to follow other religion other than acceoting the Lord Jesus Christ and repent.
God wanted ti destroy the world before.He also wanted to destroy the Israelites before.And has said there is a set day for the end of the world.
God the father can never die ,so please stop this satanic message ,read your bible and stop this your satanic theory .Jesus christ told us he has a father,so believe him.
Some people are going to hell by accepting that God does not exist and some have been directed by satan in a wrong direction or religion,worshipping idol in a house thinking they are serving God.
we will give account of whatever thing we write,say or behave that leads others astray.

Stay blessed.

That is the fact.There is a throne for the Lord Jesus Christ and there is Gods throne
read revelation 3:21" To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne ,even as I also overcame,and am set down with my father in his throne."
In revelation chapter 1:Jesus introduced himself as the Alpha and the Omega and finished this statement by telling us that he is now sitting down with God the father because he was able to overcome the spiritual battles he went through while he was on earth.Before his death it was recorded that he prayed and the sweat that came out of his body was like blood.
There are many kingdoms in a nation,this does not mean that Jesus throne is above the throne of his father.
Lets read Rev.4:2-8.And immediately I was in d spirit;and,behold ,a throne was set in heaven ,and one sat on the throne.And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and sardine stone:and there was rainbow round about the throne,in sight like unto an emerald.And round about d throne were four and twenty seats:upon d seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting,clothed in white raiment and they had on there heads crowns of gold.And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices.........verse 8 says and they rest not day and night saying HOLY HOLY HOLY LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WHICH WAS AND IS AND TO COME. The four and twenty elders fall down b4 him that sat on the throne and worship him that liveth for ever and ever ,casting their crowns b4 the throne saying ,
Thou are worthy oh lord to receive glory and honour and power:for thou hast created all things are for thy pleasure they are and were created.(now a worship song in any true church of God)
THE PURPOSE OR MISSION OF OUR LORD JESUS IS REVEALED HERE AS FOLLOWS:
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne the book written within and on the backside ,sealed with seven seals.And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice ,Who is worthy to open the book and to loose the seals thereof?And no man in heaven nor in earth neither under the earth was able to open the book and to read the book neither to look thereon.And John wept bitterly.And the one of the elders saith on to him weep not ;behold ,the lion of the tribe of Juda the root of David Jesus Christ)hath prevailed to open.................And behold and lo in the midst of the throne and of the four and four beast and in the midst of the elders stood a lamb as it was slain having seven horns and seven eyes which are the spirit of God sent forth into the earth came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne......"
I am sure you know this but,I took the time to write this cos some unbelievers coul read and have a rethink and pray to God for direction .
Jesus christ is the king of kings the lord of Lords .As a king he must have a throne.Rev.3:21.
But from the above we can see a throne with the sole authority .The elders too have crows ,so theys are kings,but must bow to the Almighty God of our Lord Jesus christ.Rev5:verse 8 says "And when he had taken the book ,the four beast and four and twenty elders fell down before the lamb(JESUS CHRIST) ,having every one of them harps ,and golden vials full of odours,which are the prayers of the saints .And they sung a new song,saying THOU ART WIRTHY TO TAKE THE BOOK ..........FOR THOU WAST SLAIN AND HAST REDEEMED US TO GOD BY THY BLOOD OUT OF EVERY KINDRED AND TONGUE AND PEOPLE AND NATION.
Even the twenty four elders are now bowing to the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ as read above.As written "in the name of the lord Jesus Christ shall every knee bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus is the lord.Because of the authority he got by shedding his blood on the cross at calvary thereby reconcilling us back to God, as read above.They bow because they could not take the book cos they were not worthy but only the son of the living God was worthy.
As the king of kings and the lord of lords he has a throne in revelation 3 verse 21.
Remember Jesus fought a battle and won.And he said he that "overcometh",it is not authomatic.This life is a battle field.The devil fought spiritualy with Jesus even after the temptation, but at last on the cross Jesus said IT IS FINISHED. Meaning he completed his task and he could say b4 leaving the earth that he would be with God on the throne.At the right hand side.
We too are fighting spiritual battle even against worldliness, against sin, and satanic agents and fake prophets set up by satan to destroy the faith of many.
But only those that overcometh shall seat with Jesus Christ on the throne.Because he fought with his blood.Remember it is written "and we overcame by the blood of the lamb and by the word of our testimony".
We can not have access to God without the lord Jesus christ because of the sin of Adam and Eve.God curse them because of their disobedience.Everyone that is born of a man has authomatically inherited this curse.Except we accept the lord Jesus as our saviour and forsake our sins.
It is not easy but is a better bargain than to end your life in hell fire.
Jesus christ is the son of God .He is Almighty as his father is greater Almighty as read in the revelation.Jesus christ has throne as a child of God because his father has greater throne.In heaven you can not usurp power or authority.Satan just had an immagination of being like God and he was casted down.No body dare look at God in the face in heaven and question his authority.He did not give the power that makes him to be God to anybody not even his son Jesus that was his daily delight.There is orderliness in heaven.

We must do everything at our disposal to make heaven because it is real and hell is real. Then God of mercy will grant us the grace.

We must remembe it is written "strait is (not straight,but tight) the gate ,,and narrow is the way ,which leadeth unto life ,and few there be that find it".
meaning no adultery,fornication,uncleaness,Idolatery,strife,witchcraft,hatred,envyings murders,drunkenness,lying, stealing etc.

It is not our knowledge of the bible
that matters ,but doing what is written therein. is either a total obedience to the word of God or hell fire.But hell fire shall not be our lot in the name of Jesus.

Stay blessed.

That is the fact.There is a throne for the Lord Jesus Christ and there is Gods throne
read revelation 3:21" To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne ,even as I also overcame,and am set down with my father in his throne."
In revelation chapter 1:Jesus introduced himself as the Alpha and the Omega and finished this statement by telling us that he is now sitting down with God the father because he was able to overcome the spiritual battles he went through while he was on earth.Before his death it was recorded that he prayed and the sweat that came out of his body was like blood.
There are many kingdoms in a nation,this does not mean that Jesus throne is above the throne of his father.
Lets read Rev.4:2-8.And immediately I was in d spirit;and,behold ,a throne was set in heaven ,and one sat on the throne.And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and sardine stone:and there was rainbow round about the throne,in sight like unto an emerald.And round about d throne were four and twenty seats:upon d seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting,clothed in white raiment and they had on there heads crowns of gold.And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices.........verse 8 says and they rest not day and night saying HOLY HOLY HOLY LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WHICH WAS AND IS AND TO COME. The four and twenty elders fall down b4 him that sat on the throne and worship him that liveth for ever and ever ,casting their crowns b4 the throne saying ,
Thou are worthy oh lord to receive glory and honour and power:for thou hast created all things are for thy pleasure they are and were created.(now a worship song in any true church of God)
THE PURPOSE OR MISSION OF OUR LORD JESUS IS REVEALED HERE AS FOLLOWS:
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne the book written within and on the backside ,sealed with seven seals.And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice ,Who is worthy to open the book and to loose the seals thereof?And no man in heaven nor in earth neither under the earth was able to open the book and to read the book neither to look thereon.And John wept bitterly.And the one of the elders saith on to him weep not ;behold ,the lion of the tribe of Juda the root of David Jesus Christ)hath prevailed to open.................And behold and lo in the midst of the throne and of the four and four beast and in the midst of the elders stood a lamb as it was slain having seven horns and seven eyes which are the spirit of God sent forth into the earth came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne......"
I am sure you know this but,I took the time to write this cos some unbelievers coul read and have a rethink and pray to God for direction .
Jesus christ is the king of kings the lord of Lords .As a king he must have a throne.Rev.3:21.
But from the above we can see a throne with the sole authority .The elders too have crows ,so theys are kings,but must bow to the Almighty God of our Lord Jesus christ.Rev5:verse 8 says "And when he had taken the book ,the four beast and four and twenty elders fell down before the lamb(JESUS CHRIST) ,having every one of them harps ,and golden vials full of odours,which are the prayers of the saints .And they sung a new song,saying THOU ART WIRTHY TO TAKE THE BOOK ..........FOR THOU WAST SLAIN AND HAST REDEEMED US TO GOD BY THY BLOOD OUT OF EVERY KINDRED AND TONGUE AND PEOPLE AND NATION.
Even the twenty four elders are now bowing to the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ as read above.As written "in the name of the lord Jesus Christ shall every knee bow and every tongue must confess that Jesus is the lord.Because of the authority he got by shedding his blood on the cross at calvary thereby reconcilling us back to God, as read above.They bow because they could not take the book cos they were not worthy but only the son of the living God was worthy.
As the king of kings and the lord of lords he has a throne in revelation 3 verse 21.
Remember Jesus fought a battle and won.And he said he that "overcometh",it is not authomatic.This life is a battle field.The devil fought spiritualy with Jesus even after the temptation, but at last on the cross Jesus said IT IS FINISHED. Meaning he completed his task and he could say b4 leaving the earth that he would be with God on the throne.At the right hand side.
We too are fighting spiritual battle even against worldliness, against sin, and satanic agents and fake prophets set up by satan to destroy the faith of many.
But only those that overcometh shall seat with Jesus Christ on the throne.Because he fought with his blood.Remember it is written "and we overcame by the blood of the lamb and by the word of our testimony".
We can not have access to God without the lord Jesus christ because of the sin of Adam and Eve.God curse them because of their disobedience.Everyone that is born of a man has authomatically inherited this curse.Except we accept the lord Jesus as our saviour and forsake our sins.
It is not easy but is a better bargain than to end your life in hell fire.
Jesus christ is the son of God .He is Almighty as his father is greater Almighty as read in the revelation.Jesus christ has throne as a child of God because his father has greater throne.In heaven you can not usurp power or authority.Satan just had an immagination of being like God and he was casted down.No body dare look at God in the face in heaven and question his authority.He did not give the power that makes him to be God to anybody not even his son Jesus that was his daily delight.There is orderliness in heaven.

We must do everything at our disposal to make heaven because it is real and hell is real. Then God of mercy will grant us the grace.

We must remembe it is written "strait is (not straight,but tight) the gate ,,and narrow is the way ,which leadeth unto life ,and few there be that find it".
meaning no adultery,fornication,uncleaness,Idolatery,strife,witchcraft,hatred,envyings murders,drunkenness,lying, stealing etc.

It is not our knowledge of the bible
that matters ,but doing what is written therein. is either a total obedience to the word of God or hell fire.But hell fire shall not be our lot in the name of Jesus.

Stay blessed.

My prayer for you is that your mouth will not put you in trouble and everything that you have written ignorantly shall not be used against you on the day of Judgement.
To start with, If you do not love Jesus Christ ,know that in your mind and repent and stop generalising it.You said and I quote"we may say we love the Lord because he is our saviour,but the truth is we dont like him."
From that statement ,you have agreed that you do not like him.This means you hate Jesus .The book of proverb 8:36 the Lord Jesus Christ says all those that hate him love death.You better go on your knee and ask for the forgiveness of God.

You talked about persecution but you are the person persecuting the body of christ by mentioning Churches of God and indirectly and directly refering to some ministers of God. I doubt if you are a christian.I wonder who made you a judge over them.
Is it when women put on trousers that will make them equal to the men?
The bible says women should be submit theirselves to their husbands.Eph 5:23 says that the husband is the head of the woman,even as Christ is the head of the church.

Deut22:5 says a "woman shall not wear that which partaineth on to a man, neither shall a man wear that which partaineth to a woman.In nigeria women dont used to wear trousers but now it is a common thing.There were some clothes that were parculiar to the woman and to men in those days.God new this and gave His law.
Are women in MFM complaining to you?
Did the members of the churches whose pastors uses private Jets came and complained to you. Was it your thithe that was used to purchase the Jets?
If people are not seeing the power of God in those churches they would have stopped going there long time ago.
If it was God that called the Pastors would the God not ask them to give account ?Are they not reading their bibles that "no sinner would go unpurnished".

If truely you are a man of God,you will rather pray for these pastors and work your own salvation with fear and trembling.If your church is a living church you would not have time for the internet.There are sermons to prepare , evangelism to be done,members to intercede for,personal prayers for yourself and your ministry, but pulling down what God has built is not expected of a true man of God.The holy spirit would have cautioned you ,if you have him in you.These churches belong to Jesus Christ.That is the body of Christ.
The spirit of God is love.If you love these men of God why did you not look for a way to see them and give them the Gods message you have, rather than tarnishing their image.
To crown it all you now advertised the name of your church, that would allow women to put on trousers ,and where there money will not be used to purchase private jets, their thithes will not be used to establish schools etc.

God is not happy that souls are perishing.Pray for power as these men of God did and people will come to your church or God Himself will bring His people to His house.

I wonder what the unbelievers will be saying, when instead of evangelising ,christians are busy trying to destroy the body of christ.

As christians there are somethings we need to undetstand so that the unbelievers will not continue in their idol worshipping ,because of our own lack of understanding of the bible and refusal to read it and allow the spirit of God to minister unto us.Jesus said we are the light of the world.meaning we are to show others the way.
In the book of Proverb chapter 8:23-36 reads
"I was set up from evarlasting ,from biginning,or ever the earth was.When there were no depths,when there were no fountains abounding with water.Before the mountains were settled,b4 the hills was I brought forth:While as yet he had not made the earth,nor the highest part of the dust of the world.When he prepared the heavens,I was there :when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:when he established the clouds above :when he strenghened the fountains of the deep:................verse 30 "Then I was by him,as one brought up with him:and I was daily his delight,rejoicing always b4 him:verse 34 -35 says " for whoso findeth me findeth life,but he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul and they all that hate me love death.
From the above scripture you can bring out words like I WAS BROUGHT FORTH ,I WAS SET UP when God the father was creating the universe.
Jesus Christ is different from God Almighty .
The words Almighty God is a title not a name .
God is a title as you can see where God told the Israelites"thou shall worship no other gods beside me"
Almighty on the other hand means .... having relatively unlimited power.
In Philipians 2:6 It tells us that Jesus christ has the form of God.A two year old lion is a lion,because its form is that of a lion.
Jesus Christ is God ,but remember that God is title ,that was why God Almighty gave His name to Moses.He did not say "My name is God"Jesus Christ too has a name,his was not named God. You can see that the name God gave to Moses is different from Jesus's name.
They are two different parsonalities but united in purpose or oneness in purpose ,principles and everyother thing.
A man and his wife are one.but two people if you remove marriage.
Jesus christ said I and my father are one.When he was baptised the voice came from heaven saying "this is my beloved son in whom am well pleased"
Jesus christ kept saying "my father in heaven".when he was crucified he told the thief on his right hand that he would be with his father in heaven.More than 50 times in the bible the Lord Jesus Christ said MY FATHER.
Before raising up Lazarus from the dead , he prayed to his father in heaven.You can not tell me that he was praying to himself .

Philipians2:9 says "God has highly exalted Jesus Christ and given him a name that is above all names"
This means God the father is existing and different from Jesus His son.
Gen.41:44 Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh,without thee shall no man lift up his hands or foot in the land of Egypt.verse 55 says when there was famine in the land the people cried to Pharoah for bread,which Pharaoh gave unto them by telling them to go and meet Joseph.Likewise we ask God for all thing through our Lord Jesus Christ.

You are correct in saying that the book of revelation called Jesus Almighty God and also the Alpha and the Omega. Infact it was Jesus christ himself that gave that testimony ,and we know Jesus can not lie or does not lie.Jesus is actually Alpha and Omega.But that is a title.And Jesus did not say I am the only Alpha and Omega.Joseph was given all the power in Egypt but not above Pharaoh.
When you read further that book of revelation chpter1:18 Jesus christ says "I am he that liveth and was dead and behold ,I am alive for evermore.
From here Jesus Christ gave messages to John for the 7 churches from Chapter 1to chapter 3 .In chapter 3:12 Jesus said he that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and will write upon him the name of my God.This means Jesus has a God.verse 14 Jesus Christ says that he is the beginning of the creation of God.Likewise revelation 3:21 Jesus testifies that "I am set down with my father on the throne.
The above was the complete or conclusion of message given by Jesus to John.Confirming that God is on the throne.

Joseph was ruling the people of Egypt but not ruling Pharaoh that gave him the authority and one of his chariots to ride on. He also said every Egyptian must bow their knee to Joseph.Likewise in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ every knee must bow.But not the knee of his Father Almighty God.
It is written for God so love the world that he gave His only begotten son ,that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but ,but have everlasting life.This is in that proverb also and in Revelation 5:1-9.showing why the lord Jesus christ came ,when he took the book from the hand of Almighty God.

When you quote the bible in a middle way you may not fully understand it until you read it to the end and allow the spirit of God to minister to you.

The children of the bond woman who are being lead by the devil in perpetrating evil arround the world now, may continue if we do not read our bible and pray for them.When we are ask one or two questions and you do not know or give you own opinion as the answer because you did not read the bible for understanding.How would they be convinced .

The devil is not foolish ,he will set up augument among brothers so as to have his way.His doing so now succesfully among christians.
Some find it hard to believe that God have a son,because they are trying to bring God to their level , thinking there must be a wife b4 one can have a child.
How much more to say he is still the Almighty God the father by virtue or trait of mere title and neglecting all the written fact and given meaning to something you did not fully understand.
In the biginning was the word ,and the word was with God,and the word was God. The word was with God, means, two personalities with the title God.
The same was in the biginning with God.Confirming proverb 8:23 to the end.

Please let me know where am wrong with bible references.

Thank you and Stay blessed.

Satan wants people to forget God.If Jonathan had gone to an harbalist, many of you would have complained and say he is not serving God.The fact that you are a president does not mean you should forget God.Infact that is when you need prayers and fasting the more.He did not kneel down for Pastor Adeboye but the God Almighty.
This shows humility.In 2chronicle12:12 it reads"And when he humbled himself,the wrath of God turned from him,that He would not destroy him altogether:and also in Judah things went well".
In 2chronicle 7:14.It saysif "If my people which are called by my name shall humble themselves,and pray,and seek my face,and turn from their wicked ways;then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin,and will heal their land".
Math.18:4 Jesus said whosoever there4 shall humble himself as this little child,the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
It was pride that made satan to start imagining being like God, which now put him in this state he is now.
If a president could show us that he reference God,what is the matter with we the followers.Even a mere clerk in a local govt would be boasting ,"do you know who i am ,am I the one you are talking to like that"."pride ".
Before God you are nobody, no matter how highly placed you are.

Johnathan is a wise man indeed.Before he bacame somebody ,when nobody knew him ,he could kneel down to God and pray, now that he is a president he is still humbling himself be4God because he knows his days in the office of the presidency is numbered.
But nobody voted pastor Adeboye into the office of General over seer of RCCG.
Spiritual matters are different from wordly matters.If Pastor Adeboye goes to Asu Rock to visit President Goodluck Jonathan,he dare not enter without invitation.Even if allowed to enter, he can not have his seat until Jonathan asks him to.

Jonathan and the whole Nigeria needs prayers more especially against the satanic chidren called Gboko Aram and the likes.
The devil is the father of all liers .When people are going about their businesses peacefully,the satanic children would be planning how to shedd their innocent blood and latter be shouting "god is great".They will also be the first to accus you.

By their fruits you shall know them.They can kill without remorse because the spirit inside them is the spirit of the devil their father.They are the troubler of the peace of Nigeria.And they are liers ,they can never repent cos of the spirit in them.
If God is the creator of man kind,He does not need the assistance of anyone be4 taking such life.

Everyone needs to pray because the anti Christ is at work , and has his human agents around.

Satan wants people to forget God.If Jonathan had gone to an harbalist, many of you would have complained and say he is not serving God.The fact that you are a president does not mean you should forget God.Infact that is when you need prayers and fasting the more.He did not kneel down for Pastor Adeboye but the God Almighty.
This shows humility.In 2chronicle12:12 it reads"And when he humbled himself,the wrath of God turned from him,that He would not destroy him altogether:and also in Judah things went well".
In 2chronicle 7:14.It saysif "If my people which are called by my name shall humble themselves,and pray,and seek my face,and turn from their wicked ways;then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin,and will heal their land".
Math.18:4 Jesus said whosoever there4 shall humble himself as this little child,the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
It was pride that made satan to start imagining being like God, which now put him in this state he is now.
If a president could show us that he reference God,what is the matter with we the followers.Even a mere clerk in a local govt would be boasting ,"do you know who i am ,am I the one you are talking to like that"."pride ".
Before God you are nobody, no matter how highly placed you are.

Johnathan is a wise man indeed.Before he bacame somebody ,when nobody knew him ,he could kneel down to God and pray, now that he is a president he is still humbling himself be4God because he knows his days in the office of the presidency is numbered.
But nobody voted pastor Adeboye into the office of General over seer of RCCG.
Spiritual matters are different from wordly matters.If Pastor Adeboye goes to Asu Rock to visit President Goodluck Jonathan,he dare not enter without invitation.Even if allowed to enter, he can not have his seat until Jonathan asks him to.

Jonathan and the whole Nigeria needs prayers more especially against the satanic chidren called Gboko Aram and the likes.
The devil is the father of all liers .When people are going about their businesses peacefully,the satanic children would be planning how to shedd their innocent blood and latter be shouting "god is great".They will also be the first to accus you.

By their fruits you shall know them.They can kill without remorse because the spirit inside them is the spirit of the devil their father.They are the troubler of the peace of Nigeria.And they are liers ,they can never repent cos of the spirit in them.
If God is the creator of man kind,He does not need the assistance of anyone be4 taking such life.

Everyone needs to pray because the anti Christ is at work , and has his human agents around.

Yarweh is not the God that tolerates sins.His is not a God that says if your righteousness is more than your evil deeds you will make heaven.
He is not the God that will tolerate a sexual pervert by allowing a 56yrs old to be sexually abusing an innocent child of 9 yrs after 10 wives and gives law that you can marry the divorced wife of your adopted son.And gives the husband the right to beat his wife.His not the God that tolerate idolatery either.

God hates sin but loves us .But any one who refuses to drop his sins is attracting the wrath of God.
In verse 10 of that chapter God told us why he wanted to bring evil upon the people He said "for they no not to do right,they store violence and robbery in their palaces"
Likewise in Nigeria now the rulers are doing theirs ,the people are doing theirs too,the police the politicians the carpenters ,the conductors,the bricklayers,the pepper sellers etc they all want to cheat and make you cry for them to be rich.No more fear of God but scarcity of truth.
When the wrath of God comes you will say "this God is wicked".
Even when God called Abraham ,in Geneses 17:1 He said unto Abraham"I am the Almighty God walk b4 me and be thou perfect.
In ex 34:7 God told Moses"I keep mercy for thousands,forgiving iniquity & transgression and sin & that will by no means clear the guilty;visiting the iniguity of the father upon the childrens children with the 3rd to d 4th generation..
Why did God say this,after bringing the Israelites out of Egypt and divided the red sea in their presence ,the Israelites still went ahead and created an image of calf as their god.God forgave them that tresspass and was warning them before hand again that when the get to the promised land they should destroy all the idol of that land and obey His commandment.
God is a holy God He lives in holy heaven with the holy angels.He will warns b4 He purnishes any disobedience.
In matt 5:48 Jesus Christ said "be thou holy as my father in heaven is holy".The bible says "shall we continue in sin and expect the grace of God to abound?It says"God forbid".
You only read what will suit you and left the other part which says in chapter 5:14 that the Israelites should "seek good ,and depart from evil that they may live;so that the Lord ,the God of hosts shall be with you".Is like you do not expect God to purnish sinners.
It is written in 2 Timothy 3:1-4"that in the last days perilous times shall come......people shall be lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God.
chapter 4: 3"also says "for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;but after their own lust shall they heap to themselves teachers ,having itching ears and shall turn away their ears from the truth.

And some if you who sees this forum as an avenue to open your mouth and say abominable things against God,please desist from it b4 it is too late.The devil is using you to destroy other people.The God that could divide the red sea is God the creator of that red sea and the creator of the universe.We only need to obey Him

The anti christ is already at work as you can see.Do not make yourself a scape goat .Etetnal destruction is waiting for any disobedience.
Repentance is what God needs.
God did not creat the devil. The devil made himself to become the devil by his evil imaginations.The devil was an angel before he was casted down to the earth.

Pray and beware before the devil takes you to hell with him.He knows his end is coming and will do everything b4 then to decieve many so that they can be there with him.
Even those that think they are fighting for God by shedding innocent peoples blood.They are all working for the devil ignorantly.

It is not every body that knows the spiritual implication of what you are saying.More especially the new age doctrine and its purpose.
We are living in the last days.
Thanks for the information.
God bless you.

Cain married his sister, the daughter of his father and mother, which was not a sin as at then,as we can see in the life of Abraham.
We can see in Gen.5:4 that Abraham had sons and dauthers,the names of the dauthers were not mentioned neighter were their ages or the the time they were born.Which is possible to be 3 or 7 years after Cain and Abel were given birth to.
The bible does not mention names of women when given account of the generation of any person in the bible.
If you read Gen 4:17-26 you will see how the children of Cain were multiplying likewise the children Adam had after Cain too were expected to be multiplying .A 900 years old person would have seen about 18 generation of todays children if they were to be marrying and give birth at the age of 50 years.
If Adam died at age of nine hundred and thirty years how many children do you think he would have gotten. At age 235 years he had gotten grand children in Gen.5:7.At age 325 he had great grand children and Seth with grand children and they still continue to procreat,how many years do you think it would take them before they lost count of their number? In about 750 years they would have been more than million people on the earth.
This was known to Cain that was the reason he said if people see him they might kill him.

Jacob got to Egypt at age 130 year in Gen.46:8-26. with 36 sons aside from grand children..After 430 years, in Exodus 12:41 the population of 36 people rose to 600,000 men besides women and children that left Egypt with Moses.
This means less than 600yrs of the life of Adam, the population would have been closed to 3 million or far more on earth before the death of Cain. If the seed of Jacob could be 600,000.thousand how much more the seed of Adam that did not die at young age of 147yrs as Jacob.And other grand children that lived a 907 yrs (Seth) would have gotten great number of children too.
Cain knew that b4 he would attain 500 yrs old it is possible for people that did not know him to kill him as he killed his brother .
We all inherited the sin of Adam in the garden of Eden.
If other people were created by God, God would have said so.
It bible is ever perfect ,only you have to read with an open mind.And at times the holy spirit would give you more understanding.

We have so many languages in the world .How does one tribes language differ from others tribe's , and it is still understood by that tribe.Is your language from evolution theory also? No two finger prints are the same in this world .
God is perfect likewise his word.

God will have mercy on you in the name of Jesus.These things you have written are what the devil might use against you if you fail to received the Lord Jesus Christ into your life before your death. If you do not pray to God and ask Him to pleace show you the way of salvation ,you will have yourself to blame.
If everyone says something about a God which you do not understand ,the best thing for a wise person is to ask God in prayer so as not to be lead astray and spend the rest of one's life in eternal fire.
Jesus Christ is the only one that can help you from eternal torment .If you do not believe fre free please to pray .Do not call the name of allah nor jesus .Say "my creator and the creator of heaven and the earth"......
It is necessary b4 it is too late.
May God help.

Wet dreams are very very bad.This is always caused by the spirit husband and spirit wife.Its main aim is to get the blessing that is coming your way aborted.
You have to pray very hard and fast mire especially if you are expecting something from God.
The purpose is to polute the person b4 God.It is not what you should take for granted.
Go and get any book on the interpretation of dreams,it will guide you.
You can also ask a true minister of God for the meaning and the spiritual implication.But truthfully speaking it is a bad thing .You need to fast and pray and cancel the evil conseguence of that dream.

As a Christian you are ecpected to spread the gospel of the salvation of the Lord Jesus Christ.Even b4 Jesus Christ died, he sent his disciples to go out and preached to people.Matt 24:14 says and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the nations of the world before the end would come.The drug sellers,the harbalist and other people make so much noise in most public buses and they do not shout them down,how much more something concerning your eternity.

The speaking in tongues is by the holy spirit that Jesus promised his disciples in John 14:16.And in the books of acts when the holy spirit came in Chapter 2 the disciples started speaking in tongues and more than 3000 people got converted that day.It is not every christian that can speak in tongues.It is a gift to those that have consecrated themself and a living a holy life with total obedience to God that are given the gift.

The fact that you hold a man of God in high esteem does not mean you take him as your personal lord and saviour.He is a prophet of God .The bible says in 2chronicle 20:20 that "believe the Lord your God and ye shall be establish and believe in His prophet and ye shall prosper."The prayers from the man of God can make a lot of difference in your life.
After every service in any true church of God ,you will be asked if you would like to give your life to Jesus and accept him as your personal Lord and saviour.Am sure this woman knows this that Jesus christ is her personal Lord and saviour.It might be your opinion that she takes Pastor Adeboye as her Lord and saviuor.

Geneses 15:20-21 talks about how miriam and the women sang to God when God overthrew the Egyptians in the red sea.There is nothing absolutely wrong with women singing in the church to God.If men are allowed to sing to God in the church why would God disallow such for women.

In christianity there is nothing like sect before you can make heaven.What matters is doing the will of God.There is no descrimination in Jesus ,no black no white no ibo no Yoruba etc before God.The Jesus christ in you is what matters.Jesus christ says abide in me and i in you.
Without me you can do nothing.There are many sect like Celestial church,roman catholic,and penticostal churches etc ,that is no problem with God.But the bible says "Who ever is not doing the will of God shall not inherit the kingdom of God".The bible is there for you to read and the holy spirit to direct you.But if you personal decides to follow your desire,and fail to live a holy life ,then on that they Jesus Christ says he would tell them that they are the workers of eniguity.

The devil would do everything to present himself as an angel of light to deceieve many but by praying and allowing the spirit of God to lead you ,you will not follow any doctrine of the devil.For every original there is mostly fake or fakes.

So, you especially have to pray to God on your own to be sure you are on the right track.