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OLAADEGBU: Did you witness the event of your birth? Do you believe that your birth occured the day they said it occured?100% correct. |
Neddivine: 1 thess.5:17- pray without ceasing.God inspired this.Because u & ur demons know that the prayer of genuine christians is the greatest destroyer of the kingdoms of darkness.You easily gave urselves out to the discerning in this thread.U can't even properly pronounce the name of Jesus because fire will consume u all at once.God bless you. he is a principality.His working for the devil his father.he wants to discourage people from praying to give the demons access into people's lives and take them to hell . There are secret satanic agents ,but this one has not hidden his identity. |
Neddivine: 1 thess.5:17- pray without ceasing.God inspired this.Because u & ur demons know that the prayer of genuine christians is the greatest destroyer of the kingdoms of darkness.You easily gave urselves out to the discerning in this thread.U can't even properly pronounce the name of Jesus because fire will consume u all at once.God bless you. he is a principality.His working for the devil his father.he wants to discourage people from praying to give the demons access into people's lives and take them to hell . |
It was David.He was king ,a prophet, warrior that never lost any battle. |
[quote author=ojeniyi.]@enilove, i want you to answer Geewan's questions with utmost sincerity using quotes in the holy bible to prove him wrong.[/quote]I will answer ur qustions and I want you to answer mine too after this thread b4 I will respond to any questions so that it can be followed in a sequencial order. I was the First to ask you some questions ,but u didnt answer.All the same,lets go ahead. The Moses I mentioned was the Moses that brought d Israelites out from Egypt. Muhammed died in 632 AD.He died as result of being poisoned by a Jewish woman, after his attack on Khaibar .Read Bukhari's Hadith 4:394 that was narrated by Abu Huraira for confirmation. You are right partially by saying that the similtude of Jesus was Adam.Jesus had to be born by the holy spirit just as God breathed into the nostrils of Adam and became a living soul.Jesus came into the world by the holy spirit and not by man,so that his blood will be a pure blood ,not the blood that has inherited the death penalty from God c/o the sin Adam and Eve commited. On the other hand you are wrong to call Adam a prophet,Adam was not a prophet.He was not given any divine message to pass to any man ,since he was the first man.You are also wrong to compare Adam with Jesus because Adam did not perform any miracle.He could not raise Abel back to life when Cain killed him. The miracles all the prophets in the bible performed are not up to 5% of the miracle Jesus alone performed within 3years of his ministry on earth. In Matt 9:33 "And when the devil was cast out ,d dumb spoke;and d multitude marvelled,saying,it was never so seen in Israel. In matt 8:26-27,And he said unto them,why are ye fearful,O ye of little faith?Then he rose ,and rebuke the winds and d sea; and there was a great calm.But the men marvelled saying, what manner of man is this,that even d winds & d sea obey him. Jesus birth and his miracles can never be compared with any one b4 or after him.Though he wish that we have such powers and he told us in Matt 16:18. I narrated that story to u tell tell you why I chose Christianity because that is the subject of this your thread.I was 8 yrs old then,when it happend to my brother and my mom told me when I was 21 yrs old or so. Jesus Christ founded Christianity , he brought salvation to mankind.It was not Paul that brought christianity.Lets read: Mark 16:15.Jesus said " Go ye into d world and preach d gospel to every creature.He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved;but he that believeth not shall be damned. In Acts of Apostle chapter11:1-26.You will read in verse 22 that there was already a church in Jerusalem and Peter sent Barnabas that he should go as far as Antioch and in verse 26 Barnabas found Paul and took him to Antioch .And it came to pass that a whole yr they assembled themselves with the church and taught much people ,and the desciples were called christians first in Antioch.Note the words "with church"in that verse,and also ,the phrase "and they taugth much people;" It was not Peter that established the church ,also he was brought there and ,we can see it written AND THEY TAUGHT .It was not only Paul that taught the people.The desciples ,including Paul were called Christians. The Nehemiah 8:4-6 which you mentioned does not signify that those people were muslims or worshipped in the muslim way. Lets analyse it one after d other. 1- Verse 2 reads "and Ezra d priest brought the law b4 d congragation......verse 4 says "Ezra the scribe stood upon the pulpit and 6 men stood by his left side and 7 men stood by his right hand .verse 5 says "and Ezra and Ezra opened the book in the sight of the people ,all the peoole stood up:verse 6 says Ezra blessed the Lord ,d great God,and all the people answered Amen Amen lifting up their hands and bow their heads and worshipped the Lord their faces to the ground. From the above you can see that the main purpose of the gathering was for the book of Moses to be read to them. They did not perform any ablution,they raised their hands up while standing not while kneeling nor sitting as the muslim do.The muslims would sit down and use their heads to touch the ground.But in this case they were on their feet with their hands raised up and bow their heads ,still standing with their face to the ground not on the ground.They did that in a standing position they did not bow their kneel, and it is not written that their head or face was on the ground."TO THE" is the same ad TOWARD. To the ground means toward the ground,or in the direction of;It is not possible for you to raise your hands up and use you head to touch the ground. More so the muslims do not pray with a quran in the hand of a priest, and with 13 people standing beside him. If their mode of worship is like the muslims it would have been so till date . This was written more than 1,500 years before Islam. Matt 16:39 you mentioned is not in the bible.Matt16 ends in verse 28. The idol worshippers always hit their heads on the ground before their gods during their worship. God is in heaven,not in the earth. Every idol worshipper can put their idol in a place,like Sango worshippers ,and ask their worshippers to face the direction of the sango shrine and bow to it. So the act of bowing down or shouting "God" does not mean the person is serving the right God. I have answered your questioned in the order by which you asked me.. I will want you to answer the questions in my first thread,in that order. |
[quote author=ojeniyi.]@enilove, i want you to answer Geewan's questions with utmost sincerity using quotes in the holy bible to prove him wrong.[/quote]I will answer ur qustions and I want you to answer mine too after this thread b4 I will respond to any questions so that it can be followed in a sequencial order. I was the First to ask you some questions ,but u didnt answer.All the same,lets go ahead. The Moses I mentioned was the Moses that brought d Israelites out from Egypt. Muhammed died in 632 AD.He died as result of being poisoned by a Jewish woman, after his attack on Khaibar .Read Bukhari's Hadith 4:394 that was narrated by Abu Huraira for confirmation. You are right partiallyby saying that the similtude of Jesus was Adam.Jesus had to be born by the holy spirit just as God breathed into the nostrils of Adam and became a living soul.Jesus came into the world by the holy spirit and not by man,so that his blood will be a pure blood ,not the blood that has inherited the death penalty from God c/o the sin Adam and Eve commited. On the other hand you are wrong to call Adam a prophet,Adam was not a prophet.He was not given any divine message to pass to any man ,since he was the first man.You are also wrong to compare Adam with Jesus because Adam did not perform any miracle.He could not raise Abel back to life when Cain killed him. The miracles all the prophets in the bible performed are not up to 5% of the miracle Jesus performed within 3years of his ministry on earth. In Matt 9:33 "And when the devil was cast out ,d dumb spoke;and d multitude marvelled,saying,it was never so seen in Israel. In matt 8:26-27,And he said unto them,why are ye fearful,O ye of little faith?Then he rose ,and rebuke the winds and d sea; and there was a great calm.But the men marvelled saying, what manner of man is this,that even d winds & d sea obey him. Jesus birth and his miracles can never be compared with any one b4 or after him.Though he wish that we have such powers and he told us in Matt 16:18. I narrated that story to u tell tell you why I chose Christianity because that is the subject of this your thread.I was 8 yrs old then,when it happend to my brother and my mom told me when I was 21 yrs old or so. Jesus Christ founded Christianity , he brought salvation to mankind.It was not Paul that brought christianity.Lets read: Mark 16:15.Jesus said " Go ye into d world and preach d gospel to every creature.He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved;but he that believeth not shall be damned. In Acts of Apostle chapter11:1-26.You will read in verse 22 that there was already a church in Jerusalem and Peter sent Barnabas that he should go as far as Antioch and in verse 26 Barnabas found Paul and took him to Antioch .And it came to pass that a whole yr they assembled themselves with the church and taught much people ,and the desciples were called christians first in Antioch.Note the words "with church"in that verse,and the also ,the phrase "and they taugth much people;" It was not Peter that established the church ,also he was brought there and ,we can it written AND THEY TAUGHT .It was not only Paul that taught the people.The desciples ,including Paul were called Christians. The Nehemiah 8:4-6 which you mentioned does not signify that those people were muslims or worshipped in the muslim way. Lets analyse it one after d other. 1- Verse 2 reads "and Ezra d priest brought the law b4 d congragation......verse 4 says "Ezra the scribe stood upon the pulpit and 6 men stood by his left side and 7 men stood by his right hand .verse 5 says "and Ezra and Ezra opened the book in the sight of the people ,all the peoole stood up:verse 6 says Ezra blessed the Lord ,d great God,and all the people answered Amen Amen lifting up their hands and bow their heads and worshipped the Lord their faces to the ground. If the above you can see that the main purpose of the gathering was for the book of Moses to be read to them. They did not perform any ablution,they raised their hands up while standing not while kneeling nor sitting as the muslim do.The muslims would sit down and use their heads to touch the ground.But in this case they were on their feet with their hands raised up and bow their heads ,still standing with their face to the ground not on the ground.They did that in a standing position they did not bow their kneel, and it is not written that their head or face was on the ground."TO THE" is the same ad TOWARD. To the ground means toward the ground,or in the direction of;It is not possible for you to raise your hands up, without bringing it down, and use you head to touch the ground. More so ,the muslims do not pray with a quran in the hand of an Imam and with 13 people standing beside him. If their mode of worship was like the muslims it would have been so till date .Matt 16:39 you mentioned is not in the bible.Matt16 ends in verse 28. Most idol worshippers do bow their heads to the ground facing their idols.Are they muslims? Sango shrine can be built inside a house ,and command given to their worshippers throughout the world ,to face the place where the idol is located,as it is normal to hit their heads on the ground during worship,can we call them muslims?.Neither can we say because they also bow ,as recorded in the bible ,that they are christians. I have answered your questioned in the order by which you asked me.. I will want you to answer the questions in my first thread,in that order. |
Kay 17: The OP does make lots of sense. If God is Love, then how is that attribute reconciled with Hell. Its like placing your child's head in an ovenYou are 100% correct. Even earthly fathers do disown there children.When a child is disown,it means the child does not belong to the father any longer and would not share in the fathers properties.The father would repudiate any connection between him and the child. The same applies to God our heavenly father.After series of preachings , warnings, pleading ,aside from His provisions and grace for the forgiveness of our sins, somebody still refuses to turn away from his sins,God will disown that person.The person does not fit for the kingdom, and would not inherit the kingdom of God.Such a person would inherit the kingdom of the new father ( satan) that adopted him,hell fire ,which is where satan would be forever and all those that follows his ways. It is better to bargain rightly. Remind yourself that Prov.15:24 says "the way of life is above to the wise that he may depart from hell beneath". If you think hell does not exist,and it does,what do you think would happen for someone who does not make heaven?But someone that lives his life carefully, and believes that there is hell and makes heaven,but later discovers that there is no hell, is wiser. |
tola9ja: prophet issa *jesus*came after moses to preach to d isrealite d 1nes d unique of Almighty ALLAH after him d last prophet Arrive which is prophet muhammed *p.b.u.h* he also preach to world not d isrealite or egyptian but d world at large in 1 word. d last prophet was send to d world al d remaining prophet was sent to there society only.The point is you have to pray that God should reveal to you the truth concerning Islam and Christianity. The Allah did not inform Muhammed to include the Ten commandment in the quran.The story of Moses without the Ten commandment is like a body without a head. Please remenber and think on the fact that the bible had been existing more than 500 yrs b4 Muhammed. People knew about the story of Moses and Jesus Christ be4 and during the Muhammed time.Is it not pissible for someone to copy an already existing product and give it another name and also try to say it is better than the original product? For example the quran says in sura16: 101-102 " And we put a revelation in place of another revelation, and Allah knows best and what he reveal,they say:you are just inventing,most of them do not know." This means Allah first told Muhammed to write something in the quran,after when Muhammed had written it,and people have heard of ,then Allah gave another message to cancel d previous message. Is that not editing by Allah? There is something wrong somewhere. The same Allah wanted muslims to be praying 50 times per day before Moses ask Muhammed to go back to God and ask for reduction.Muhammed went 4 times b4 the prayers was reduced fron 50 to 25 to 12.5 and then 5. That was what is in the hadith. Do you think God would have asked people to be praying 50 times per day.Does Moses know more than God. Mind you, the word "prophet" means one who utters divinely revelations.One who foretells future events. God is still sending His prophets into the world to guide his people.Pastor Adeboye is a prophet, Dr D.K Olukoya is a prophet,Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is a prophet and many others . A prophet would know what will happen to others and to him now and in the future.Muhammed did not know that his meat was poisoned, which later killed him. Were you there when God called Muhammed? Were you there when God called Jesus Christ?. If no.Then you need to pray on your own and ask God to show you which of the two is the way.And if non is the way,He should let you know. When praying please do not mention Allah and do not mention Jesus ,but say, My creator and the creator of the heaven and the earth............. This is very important because ignorance is not an excuse before government of people of this world neither is it b4 God Almighty. You do not need to discus dis with anyone,it just btw u and ur God. Thanks , may God bless you. |
Segeggs: Can u burn ur child alive for telling lies,stealing or even worse?i know u cant which shows dat u believe mankind's love for their offspring is greater than the love our heavenly father has for we his children-which isnt so.before u continue believing the hell doctrine,first put ur handsome or ugly face in a burning stove for 15minutes then perhaps i will believe too.dont comment to argue if u havent tried it.If you are living an obedient life ,you do not have to fear whether there is hell or not. It be wise of you if you accept what you have read in the bible,and work your salvation with fear and trembling. Jesus mentioned about hell many times, about the rich man that went to hell.If hell does not exist ,he would not have mentioned hell.He also told us about not to allow our hands,legs,eyes etc to take us to hell. In Revelation 20:10"And the devil that deceived them was cast into d lake of fire and brimstone,where d beast and d false prophet are,and shalk be tormented day and night for ever and ever. The Yorubas do say ,"Child of the devil" to any child that behaves ungodly.So a child of the devil will born in hell fire with his father the devil ;and a child of God will be enjoying in heaven with his fatherbGod Almighty.So , God is a loving father as long as you obey him.Do not deceive yourself and do not allow anybody to deceive you that there is no hell.You can not continue in sin and expect God to grant you heaven.If it is not a great purnishment Jesus Christ would not come and die for our sins.Just think of what he went through ,you will know that it will be a great tragedy for anyone who fails to make heaven. The message that disobedient people want to hear is this type you are posting. Remember that it is written in 2Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;but after their own lust shall heap to themselves teachers ,having itching ears.verse 4" And they shall turn their ears from the truth..... Anyone that allows himself to be decieved, thinking that there is no hell,and want to continue in sin without repenting would be cast into the lake of fire with devil and the fake prophets that decieve them. |
ooman: apparently, you just dont know how cruel the xtian God is!Do not make a mistake of not accepting Jesus christ into your life.Please ,and I mean please. Just pray for a sign from God to show you if, realy ,He is the creator of heaven and the earth and whether Jesus Christ is the saviour that can save you or not. |
Am sorry ,I was busy since my posting. This might be a lenghty discusion,so lets take a batch approach. Kindly respond. |
I have many reasons why I had to decide for ever to be a christian, some of which are: A friend once told me that the reasons why most people wish to cross from Islam to Christianity was because of laziness. He said most people find if hard to pray 5 times per day.I then wondered if truely it was God that gave us that kind of worship,because the hadith said the Muhammed went to heaven ,an Allah told him to tell his followers to be praying 50 times per day.Moses then asked muhammed to go back to God to ask for reduction.The 1st time it was reduced to 25, again Moses told him to go back and ask for reduction, because people will not be able to do it,and God changed it to 12,5 times ,he still went the fourth time b4 God gave him 5 times per day ,and when Moses asked him again to go back to God for reduction,Muhammed refused. I then reasoned within me ,does Moses know more than God?This Allah does not know that to pray 50 times a day ,if you remove 6 hrs for normal sleep per day,we would have to be praying every 30 mins . I knew then that something was wrong with the religion. Another determinant was the historical back ground of Muhammed and Jesus.I was told that Muhammed had many wives .He married someone that was about 20 years older than him.(1st wife)Khadijat or so.And also married many other wives including 6 year old Aishat ,the daughter of Abu bakir.She was betrothed to Muhammed at age 6 and the marriage consummated when she was 9 yrs old ,Muhammed was then 54 yrs old.He also married Zaynab his adopted son's wife .And Muhammed died of food poisoned by a Jewish woman. I inquired about Jesus.The quran and the bible confirms his birth was through the holy spirit and the mother was a virgin before he was concieved in the womb.He performed many miracles, like the blind receiving their sights,raising the dead ,casting out demons etc. He did not marry.He died on the cross without sin. When I thought of these things, I was convinced within me that Islam was not the way.I then went to my mother and told her my decision.She then told me that she too had witness the power of the God of the Christians when my junior brother,who was 6 months old then,almost died.she took him to the hospital for days no changes ,the alfa in her mosque told her to take him to the hospital,whereas she was just comming from the hospital. She said the next day when the situation became worse, she decided to go to a relative at Ishaga tedo, on her way, she saw a church along the road and something told her to take him there ,and she branched.She said the way they quickly received the child from her and started praying for my brother was something she will never forget in her life.She said d members and the pastor ,who did not know her ,prayed for the child as if the child was theirs(love) ,and my brother's temperature bcame normal and started eating .He had not taken food for days. She said they did not request a penny from her, but told her to be prayerful and she left .The alfas took money did hontu,but no result. She was a muslim then ,when she narrated this to me. There are still more reasons,but let me have you response on these. Thanks. |
frosbel: No one is going to a HELL or a HEAVEN.What is the meaning of psalm 16:10 "For thou will not leave my soul in hell". Matt 13:42"And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Did Jesus not mentioned hell in the bible? The people with the second option are those that will go to hell.As given above. |
frosbel: I used to teach my children many years ago about Hell fire, in fact I also taught the same to my sisters children.The way we present our cases is very important in life. From all indications,we know that God is love ,kind,merciful and a provider.It is falsehood if we fail to admit that He is a God that hates sins and punishes sinners.For God so love the world that He gave His only Son..... it is not complete if we do not admit that "whosoever does not believe in Jesus shall perish. God loves us realy but he does not tolerate sin. When God saved the Israelites He gave them law so that they will not perish.Eventualy,because of sin,only 2 out of 600,000, people got to the promised land. Hell is not a joke ,but you must educate them that love of God is better and heaven is the most beatiful place that one can ever immagine,and is available only if we obey God.This will not scare them,but would make them to stop commiting sin. If you present only the bad side of something,nobody would want to go for d thing. Hell is real and heaven is real,we must decide which one we want out of the two. |
obunike: you must be very stupid by saying that JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD,Please ,do not abuse him. He needs to be preached to,he might change if God wants him to. |
Why dont you take het to a God believing Church,they might hepl her,even with her education.She will also know more about God. If she gets inpregnated where she will be taking to,your kindness may backfire on you. A church is a better idea.You do not know who is who. The bible says the heart of a man is deceitful above all things,and despirately wicked: who can know it. Please do not give what you do not have to who you do not know. The church is a better option.There wickedness everywhere. |
ijawkid: How many times would we tell people that stories on rapture,hell and heaven voyage are always false........I have once dreamt of rapture ,but I was not raptured. Although I didnt tell anyone except my wife and children,because it was a personal warning for me. The way I see it is this: What do they stand to gain by telling people that hell,heaven and rapture are real. They are not asking us to pay money, in order for us to make heaven and raptured. In the days of Noah,people did not believe but it eventualy happened. The so it possible that he actually saw those things. People have written so many bad things about pastors and General Overseers.And those allegations might be true.The ministers might still be performing genuine miracles in the name of Jesus Christ,but 99% holyness can not qualify anyone to make heaven.Jesus christ's name is not an ordinary name,so mirracles,wonders and signs from a man of God does not qualify that person for heaven. The ministry that God has committed into the hands of some G.O.can take them to hell ;if they are not observant of what the other branches are doing.There are many songs ,dances ,doctrines dress code that some church branches have absolve, that are not biblical.God is no respecter of persons. It is a warning for everyone of us.There are many things that we take for granted ,which can lead some one to hell.We might say trousers for girls is not a sin.If it a sin b4 God,would the General Overseer not share in the sin?Eli did not sin but he died because of the sins of his children. I think whether it is the truth or not what matters is that we should amend our ways b4 it is too late. There is no repentance in the grave. There restitutions that I have to make also.The heaven is a holy place please lets encourage ourselves to be prepared. It you do not believe,the unbelievers will not believe also. And God wants everyone of us to make it.And we shall make it in Jesus name. Thanks. |
advocate666: If she is making all these efforts, she's got something to hide. How do I know? Just human nature. And experience.God has blessed the marriage and no evil power from the pit of hell can put them asunder, in the name of Jesus. The devil is never happy with any Christian home. But it is written Behold ,he that keepeth Israe shall neither slumber nor sleep. So shall it be for their marriage in Jesus name.The Lord is their keeper:the Lord is their shade upon their right hand in Jesus name.The sun shall not smite them by day ,nor the the moon by night in Jesus name.The Lord shall preserve them from all evil and preserve their souls, in Jesus name. alexieo will never come here to give a negative testimony in Jesus. The devil tempted Job and Jesus but failed. It is devilish to tempt someone, alexieo, do not tempt or set trap for your wife. Resist the devil's advocate and he will flee from you. |
I was muslim by birth but when I grew up I asked myself ,why should I be a Christian and not a muslim. Then I questioned myself why are the muslims facing the east when worshioping and the Christians can face any direction? If the spirit of God is everywhere is should be able to face any direction.I was also told that the muslims are worshipping the sun ,that is why they are facing the east.But some say it us the Kaaba. And also descover some other things about Muhammed that I did not like. Lets discuss on this matter more in detail because the truth is that one of the religions is a fake. |
Ishmael was the son of Abraham before Abraham sent him and his mother away.If the God that Abraham worshipped was Allah,why are the Israelites not calling the name of their God Allah? Ishmael must have heard Abraham calling the name of their God Allah .Likewise Isaac must have heard that Allah was the name of their God.But Isaac and his descendant never mentioned the name "Allah" as the name of their God. For example Sango is know to the yorubas as the god of thunder.In Trinidad it is called shango,in brazil it is called zango and known to these nations as the god of thunder ,with a little or no difference in the pronounciation except spelling. The Allah is quite different from Yahweh of the Israelites. The only close name quite like it is in the quran ,goddess Allat. why? The name Sango did not change ,why should the name of God change ,especially for a nation of Israel that keeps record.The name must have been written somehow in the bible. There is no reason why they would not want to call Allah and continue till now. Jesus also throughout his ministry never mentioned the name Allah. Name is very important in life ;TAIWO IS NOT THE SAME AS KEHINDE. If Allah is the same God as the God Yahweh,why didnt muhammed continued with that name ,if he knew that it was the same God that Abraham was calling, that has also sent him. More so, the mode of worshipping this God is different. Am sure they are not the same .God of the Israelites told the Israelites that Isaac was the child Abraham wanted to use as sacrifice and quran tells us that it was Ishmael.The God can not be so forgetful if He were the same God.There is a lie somewhere. |
alexleo: YES, MY WIFE. A wonderful woman God gave to me. She loves God and the things of God. Humble, loving,caring, hardworking, intelligent, enterprising. A good home manager and a true picture of a true child of God. Twelve years of marriage and still counting, she has been a wonderful wife to me. I thank God for bringing her into my life. Pleading on all of you here to help me say A BIG thanks to this great woman. I pray for God's continual blessings upon her life from day to day. In Jesus name. Amen.God gave you such a blessed wife because He knows you will apreciate her.There many others too ,who need appreciate what God has given them, including myself. I thank God for this testimony,may God continue to be with your family to the end,may you and your wife live to see your children'children in good health and prosperity in Jesus name.No evil power shall put you asunder in the name of Jesus. I will advice you to try and surpass her virtue. Thanks,stay blessed |
Satan is the ruler of this world for now.That is why it is written 1John 2:15 love not the world ,neither the things that are in the world. Wherever God rules ,things will be perfect, as it is in heaven. John 15:19 says if ye were of the world ,the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world,but I chose you out of the world,there4 the world hates you.If Jesus is the ruler of the world the world would not hate us.Until after the 2nd coming of Jesus and the new Jerusalem is brought down from heaven and the old world is destroyed that God and His son Jesus will be ruling.Rev.21:1-27 It is the devil the "prince of this world" that is ruling the world for now. |
Celestial doctrine is copletely diffrent from that of CAC. Propphet Ayo Babalola did not allow his members to marry more than one wife,and he himself did not marry mote than one wife.Oshofa on the other hand ,had about 30 wives b4 his death and laid a foundation where the members can marry more than one wife .CAC members dont use candle for prayers and not a white garment church. A menstruating woman can enter CAC church ,RCCG,MFM,CHRIST EMBASSY,TREM etc and worship not so in Celestial white garment church. God did not tell Prophet Ayo Baba to be going bare footed while Oshofa and members, when in their garment go bare footed. The death of Oshofa does shows that God was not with him. He had a fatal car accident and gave the ghost about 9 days later .He left without having knowledge of his death. No devine message of who should lead after his death was given, and 1yr later they have started going to court on who should be the next leader.Where the true spirit of God is ,he would have informed them who the leader should be. Prophet Ayo Babalola told his members 3years b4 his death even d day he was to die ,that he was departing from them. And gave the leadership of the church to someone and the church is still growing even after 55 years of his death.The same thing with the founder of Redeem Christian Church of God,he knew 5 years b4 his death and gave the leadership to Pastor Adeboye before meeting the Lord Jesus in heaven.God is a master planer,He does not start what He can not finish.Joshua took over from Moses,Elisha from Elijah etc. I doubt this vision.Celestial and celica are the same. But one thing is certain ,every tree that God has not planted shall be uprooted. |
Omo Alata: If you haven't done it yet, then please don't! I used to attend Cele and did a lot of bathing in the sea. It's a form of covenant. No time to go fully into it now as 30 day shred is calling meI pray that he will take to your advice .People who have not gotten the experience may not be able to advice rightly, Some need to be informed about these wolves in sheep clothing.They make people to rubish the name of Jesus . Thank you God bless you. |
Hebrew 13:4 says "Marriage is honourable in all ,and the bed undefiled:but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Thank God for your life and the holy spirit in you.For the fear of God is the biginning of wisdom. There is a great danger if you do not put God first in whatever you are doing. It is good that you realise that sex b4 marriage is a sin.As it a sin ,also remember that it is God that can say what tomorow will be. There were many that saw January 1st of this year and are no more.If they have sins in their lives which they have not confessed,it a great tragedy,because it a journey of no return.They will not be able to undo the wrong they left behind. Your life is in the hand of God who has a purpose for your life .God forbid,if you do it and the trumpet sounds,would that person be rapturable?.If one does it and later finds out that the girl has an incurable desease,what will you do? The wife of portipha tried to have sex with Joseph so as to terminate the vision of God for his life.Samson destiny was destroyed by sex. Do not allow anybody no ,matter the love ,to destroy your destiny.God surely has a good plan for you,and has not said "thou shall not marry"only do it the proper way ,so that the blessing of God can be in the marriage from the start. There is a great mistake we do make nowadays.We do not seek the face of God b4 choosing our marriage partners.It is a life and death matter.Marriage is not something to joke with,because Jesus said if you go into it ,you can not divorce your wife no matter what she does to u except on the ground of adultery. You have to pray and be sure that she is the right person for you. What if after you have settled down with her, and there is need for you to go abroad for a yr or two,would she be able to hold her body? As a child of God ,do not settle down with someone who is not born again.You might regrete it when it is too late.It is not easy to capture a woman in the act of adultery.Find a God fearing lady who will assist you in bringing up your children in the way of the Lord.2cor6:14 says "be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers for what fellowship is righteousness with unrighteousness....She is not a righteous person if she could ask you to have sex with her b4 marriage,irrespective of the church she attends. Decent girls who value their bodies and fear God . Good girl would be happy to get someone that will marry her before sleeping with her. The bible says in 1Cor6:18"Flee from fornication."As Joseph did. 1Cor6:9" Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?Be not deceived:neither fornicators,nor idolaters,nor adultterers,nor effeminate,nor thieves etc shall inherit the kingdom of God. For you to know if she is the right person ,pray b4 going to bed.Do not go to any pastor ,pray on your own and the God that has ears and mouth will answer you . Thanks |
OLAADEGBU: Daily MannaIt was Jesus that God refered to.The Arabs were not in the midst of the Israelites and no longer brethren with the Israelites.The tribes of Israel are twelve,from Jacob.It is the twelve tribes that are brothers. Geneses 17:12 God told Abraham that his convenant shall be established with Isaac,which Sarah shall born to Abraham. Because God's covenant was from the biginning with Isaac,God told Abraham to send away Ishmael and his mother away , likewise other children from other wives. That is why the two nations are living far apart. The Arabs are a nation and Israel another nation.They are not brothers but different nations.That is why God said in "your midst", Isaac was buried in the same place where his father was buried and also inherited all his fathers properties. Ishmael was not the only son that Abraham had from another woman ,there was Keturah ,the wife that Abraham married ,who also got many sons for Abraham.Geneses 25 :6 says be4 Abraham died he sent all the other children away from Isaac. If Abraham had other children aside Isaac and Ishmael,and Ishmael and others children were sent away from the home and Isaac inherited all the properties, there is no doubt that he was the PROMISE CHILD .The other chidren from Keturah can also say the prophecy was for them too.That was why other children were sent away to avoid confusion. |
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Why is the biblcal account of Moses in the bible different from the quran version. The bible says it was Moses that first cast down his rod to the ground, but the quran says it was the Egyptians. The people of Israel never heard of the name Allah from Moses mouth as the name of the God that divided the red sea, but you said Moses reminded them that their God was Allah alone. It was about 2,000 years after Moses died that Muhammed came,why was the name of Allah never once mentioned by the people of lsrael, who are the owner of the Moses and miracle you mentioned. Why would Moses say, God that sent him was the God of the Egyptians and the God of the forfathers of Pharaoh,when the Egyptians were Idol worshippers,as mentioned in your thread. I think there is something missing,may be they are not the same person.what do you think. . |
Hezron Lorraine: What must be done to stop fake prophets from destroying peoples life all around.many would see fake visions.prophesy things that end up destroying your liThere is little or nothing that can be done to stop these fake pastors. But you on your own can stop them from deceiving you,reading your bible,living a holy life ,fast regularly and very very important is pray without ceasing. You too will not need them anymore and you will be able to hear from God and carry fire of God . If you are tired of the mealy -mouthed preachers that go about deceiving people in churches now adays,practice the above. If this generatn of men & women and the churches must be saved from the shipwreck and disgrace from the wave of satanism & the occult now spreading like praire fire,then people of power must emerge from this nation. It is you and I that need to change ,then others might follow. |
dominion247: I have experienced this for uncountable number of times. each time, i try to move to no avail, i also try to say jesus! but i end up sayin je je je je and unable to complete it. since last year april, i neva experienced it and then, it happened yesterday night immediately i fell asleep. i even felt a presence behind me and the person held my hand. it got me thinking today. Could this be something to worry about?Are you a born again christian?Are you living a holy life. I need to know this quickly. Pls be truthful. |
Before I give the answer lets first read proverb 8:22-36 reads: "The LORD possessed me at the biginning of his work ,the first of his acts of old. Ages ago I was set up ,at first ,b4 the the biginning of the earth. When there were no depths I was brought forth,when there were no spring abounding with water. Before the mountains had been shaped,before the hills ,I was brought forth,before he made the earth with its fields,or the the first of the dust of the world. When he established the heavens,I was there ;when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,when he assigned to the sea its limit,so that the waters might not transgress his command,when he marked out the foundations of the earth,then I was beside him,like a master workman,and I was daily his delight,rejoicing b4 him always,rejoicing in his inhabited world and delighting in the children of man.And now O sons,listen to me :blessed are those who keep my ways . Hear instructions and be wise ,and do not negnect it.Blessed is the one who listens to me ,watching daily at my gates,waiting beside my doors.For whoever finds me finds life and obtains favor from the LORD,but who he who fails to find me injures himself;all who hates me love death. This was revealed by the holy spirit to Solomon and written about 1,000 yrs before Jesus came. John 1:1-5.In the biginning was the word and the word was with God ,and the word was God.He was in the biginning with God. Geneses 1:26,Let us make man in our image ,after our likeness" God was talking with his son Jesus Christ who was in the biginning with God ,that God possessed at the biginning of his works,the first of his acts of old,who was there when God established the heavens.That is the son of God,Jesus Christ,and who ever fails to find him injures himself and all who hate him love death. Matt:3:17 reads " behold ,a voice from heaven said ;"This is my beloved Son,with whom I am well pleased". God was not alone when he was creating the universe,the first person God created was the Lord Jesus and was possessed by God as His son and Proverb 8:30 says ,Jesus was daily the delight of God,rejoicing b4 his father always."This is my beloveth son". The historical evidence of what happened in Egypt and how God saved the Israelites shows that Moses heard the voice of God. Only God could divide the red sea and all the miracle He performed in Egypt. These are facts that could be confirmed from the Egyptians, whether there was such stories from their ancestors. It was Moses that God told what happened from the biginning .Moses wrote the first five books of the bible, because God told him to. God was talking to Jesus ,when He said "let us create man in our own image" That was why Jesus told the pharasees"before Abraham was, I have been existing"in John 8:58. If Jesus is not the Son of God,he couldnt have been able to :Healed a Leper,opened the eyes of the blind,make the dumb to speak,healed the epileptic boy,healed the man with a withered hand,cast out demons,healed blind Bartimaeus,raised Lazarus that was dead for 4 days. Jesus cinfirmed in Matt 16:16-17 that he is the son of God. God couldnt have performed those miracles through Jesus, in he was a lier. All those miracles happened when the Romans had captured the land of Israel.The romans were ruling the Israelites then,so there were witnesses and historical evidences.Pontius Pilat was a roman king in Israel as at then,the same thing with King Herod.They were all Romans. Then after the death of Jesus the world dating system started,Jesus died 2013 years ago.So it was not the imagination of anybody that he performed those miracles.He is the Son of the living God.He did not marry ,he did not have children ,which could have made us to doubt him, because his offsprings could have inherited the holy Spirit that gave birth to him. He came purposely to die for our sins so that the curse every human beign on earth inherited through Adam and Eve could be cancelled by the only blood that did not come from Adam,the blood of Jesus. Thanks |
Matt 17:21 Jesus said "Howbeit this kind goeth out not but by fasting and prayers. The disciple of our Lord Jesus could not cure a mad boy,because the case was a deliverance case. Deliverance is the state of being delivered or rescued. Every born again child of God has received deliverance c/o the blood of Jesus to an extent,because christianity is a process. Some have received total deliverance depending on their foundation. Some would still need more fasting and prayers if their foundation has been faulty .You can only be righteous when you are born again and the spirit of God is living inside you.Because you are born again does not mean that the holy spirit has taken total control of your life.That is why: We see some pastors lusting after young girls,married women,some actualy commiting the act. We have seen pastors dropping their ministry for politics. We have seen powerless born again christians and pastors, with little or no holy spirit living inside them being molested by witches. We have seen a born again, who just finished preaching the gospel, fighting the conductor in the bus. When you are born again you have the licence to enter the kingdom of God and reign with our Lord Jesus christ, if you live a holy life. Then to be born again does not mean that you will become holy immediately.A smoker and drunker that just got born again will still have to descipline himself to be able to live above sin.It is not authomatic. Despite that if your foundation is for example Idol worshipper,mascurade worshipper ,and where there are generational curse running in the family, such cases need fasting and prayers .The bible says if the foundation is destroyed,what can the righteous ,who has the holy spirit living inside him,do. Deliverance is a special fasting and prayer session. The foundation of an idol worshipper is faulty.Powers of darkness may no longer have power over him again,but if he has swallowed a live serpent b4 he bcame born again,he needs special fasting and prayers to vomit all the evil things he has swallowed. When you get born again the holy spirit can come in full measure inside you and you will start to speak in tonques ,depending on your foundation and the spirit inside you b4 u became born again. Some it is years after they have dropped all their bad habits b4 the holy spirit can possese them. Fingers are not equal.We have to realise that b4 we became born again, we used to have different bad habits and life styles ,that have put some in bondage.Some have demons living inside them that dictates for them.It can tell some to stand up and go to night clubs,by suggestion.Some to commit adultery ,some to start to watch porn, some are anger,it would tell them to fight if not people will say you are a fool.The parents of some ,in the bid to get wealth have gone into convenant with the devil and his agents,which the children would inherit, unless by fasting and prayers and renouncing the convenant. The parents of some are christians ,so the foundation or the versel of such are clean easily when they get born again they will receive the power of the holy spirit, and can easily drop all their bad habits.Spirit wives or husband just dont go easily when you get born again.You must pray and fast over it.That is dileliverance. Some spirit can be there without your knowledge. How many christians are born again? If someone slaps us can we turn the other cheek? If we found £3,000 on the ground,can we take it to the police station? Dont we gossip,backbite,keep malice,hate some people,have pride ,hate being corrected? Do we keep God's commandment 100%. If not ,then we need deliverance because the spirit behind the sins is still inside us hidden.It might not go except by fasting and prayers In summary , deliverance can come for some when they get born again. It can be years after reading your bible,attending church services and listening to the sermons. It can be by special fasting and prayers and renouncing evil covenants and quoting the word of God. It is when we are completely delivered from the above, that the scripture will be applicable.It is not every born again christian that has been delivered from the power of darkness,but have started the process of the being delivered.If the above sins are there, we have not been translated into the kingdom of the Lord Jesus. If we have been translated , we will speak in tongues, hear from God,see visions, heal the sick ,cast out demons ,lay hands on the sick and they shall recovered. Many of us are born again but not completely delivered from sins,as long as the sins are there the power of dakness has control over he person, thereby hindering the holy spirit. For some of these spirits to go,we need some fasting and prayers and then, in the name of the deliverance master Jesus ,the spirits will bow. |
