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PoliticsAPC = PDP But With Some Fundamental 'ideological' Differences by esere826(op):
Introduction

This is the 3rd and final part of my threads trying to show that APC = PDP
while in the same breadth, trying to salvage some fundamental differences

Part 1: https://www.nairaland.com/1864112/change-management-pdp-apc-terrorism
Part 2: https://www.nairaland.com/1868740/when-apc-pdp-using-change
Christianity EtcRe: Was Jesus Christ Created? by esere826: 4:39pm On Aug 24, 2014
ty444: Verses from the bible are begining to shake my previous beliefs,was christ actually created or was he ith God almighty since time begining?a passage in the bible declared christ as the firstborn of Gods creation,but the book of john describes him as the word who has been with God since the begining,was christ created or was he since time immemorial.
https://www.nairaland.com/1797193/attempt-coceptualize-differentiate-betwee-god
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 3:27pm On Aug 22, 2014
Blockus: She suspected.. That is grounds to Quarantine him.
Immediately a Doctor suspects that a patient is carry such a deadly and highly infecteous disease like Ebola, that Doctor is required by Law to isolate and Quarantine such a patient and then Contact the Nigerian Ministry of Health.
we're back to why i called her intelligent
from the level of argument displayed by some doc on this thread
i suspect that such 'intellectual' curiosity to 'suspect' is not common place
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 3:12pm On Aug 22, 2014
Blockus: Let me just say this..
If the Doctor had let Mr. Sawyer go after diagosing him with Ebola.. She would have lost her license and very likely go to jail.
Its not a matter of intelligence, its a matter of DUTY!! There are certain illnesses that are on the high priority list and have a protocol that ALL doctors must follow when once the diagonose a patient with them.
nope
thats not the way i heard it happened

1) she suspected >> 2) restrained him based on this >> 3) then confirmed it

1) and 2) are the key

Once 3) was achieved, almost anybody would seek to quarantine him
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 3:05pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: abeg no vex. I no fit argue with you.you obviously are UNINFORMED. don't take it the hard way.
ok naw
if this statement is what makes u feel better,..enjoy
Hope you go places with such talk
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 2:54pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: please don't tell me that.
Nigerians support their govt with silence! when you don't ask the right questions or ask for accountability,why won't your leaders continue with the ra.pe?

Nigerians are not just weaklings,but poor,ignorant weaklings.
You are correct in this ^^^ ooo
but the issue at hand is the NMA strike
(I have assumed that you are a doctor)

1) Are the nurses and other health professionals happy with you guys?
2) If they increase your salary to 2million a month will you guys drop the strike action and forget about the ammenities you're fighting for?
3) If after increasing your salary to 2 million, they also increase the salary of other health profs. to 2 million or more will you guys embark on another strike?

....think carefully about this from the perspective of the wider Nigerian doctors viewpoint
maybe it will provide some clue
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 2:47pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: she kept doing her job till she died. has it not ended in "eyahh" "pity""so sad""she was brave","you died so that we may live","you are an icon","god bless you sister"

how many of you give a hoot what she earned there?

how many of you have suggested what govt should do for her family?

you are quick to remember she was doing what she was trained for but very slow to review THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH SHE WORKED.
I have suggested what government should do
https://www.nairaland.com/1858891/love-thine-neighbour-thine-self
and i know what i'll do if I ever meet her kids or husband
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 2:44pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: grin....... mentally deranged Nigerians. wholeheartedly defending a government that can't provide guns and bullets for its soldiers.

soldiers are going AWOL! I guess its also the doctors fault.
in case you have forgotten boko haram has retaken gwoza while your soldiers are burning their uniforms and hitching rides.....lol
crazy Nigerians! defending a president who is in Germany for medical attention as I type this,while his hospitals remain shut. the ordinary Nigerians can die for all he cares.
if that is not Jonathan flipping a giant-sized middle finger at all of you,I don't know what is.

you guys really deserve that drunken clown and his cronies.
Phantom, phantom, phantom
Have you noticed that no one on this thread is supporting the government?
In fact, you'd be appreciated if you go over to germany where GEJ's security is low key and take him out

If you swat a tsetse fly perched on a man's scrotum
you'll have the man to contend with and not the fly

..thats the reason for the mentally deranged nigerians you laugh at
try hard to decompose issues into its various strains
PoliticsRe: When APC = PDP (using Change Management theory) by esere826(op): 1:39pm On Aug 22, 2014
egift: This lousy theory is what PDP always promote because everyone knows they have failed Nigerians. Be Patriotic, send PDP back to the drawing board to reconsider whose interests to protect (Nigerian masses OR greed cabals).

Up APC.
In the next thread, I'll try to pschoanalyse your point of view.
please make sure to read it

....Cheers
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 1:32pm On Aug 22, 2014
Make i conclude go siddon
Jesus tok say if salt looses its saltiness
then its no good and should be thrown away

2015, you can throw out Goodluck, and after that the next president too
but for now,
when we faced an emergency, and doc-o-tor who still receives salary turned their backs for a "noble" reason
then anger will naturally rise up against doc-o-tor

and thats why the salt was thrown away
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 1:26pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: please go and seat down. I am not interested in this your epistle/PhD thesis.

where is the president of your country as I type this?
Wait naw
u're a gentle and intelligent man
and should be interested in PhD thesis

Would you rather that I dont argue the points
and just say aye or nay
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826:
@ ifyclose2

5)

I said that I have always been surrounded by folks from the medical profession
This is how the argument has always gone:

The doctors complain that they spent so much time at university studying
the pharmacists retort that they also spend long time studying and that whereas a doctor can only take one life at a time in error
they (pharmacists) can take the lifes of hundreds at a go in error

Other 'medical' fields feel slighted that they are looked down on by even the most junior of doctors
I mean it this thread, someone made reference to the nurse running away derogratilly
such putting down is typical

No wonder the JOHESU group is anti NMA
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 1:15pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: esere please stop. you ain't making sense.
Mbanu
i wont stop
The OP suggests that all Nigerians are ganging up against doctors

If this is true,
let's try to unearth the reasoning behind this
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 1:13pm On Aug 22, 2014
phantom: how do you want doctors to fight Ebola without PPEs?
everybody is insulting the doctors but have you people ever asked whether the govt has done what its supposed to do?
You're probabably a doctor
and maybe a junior one if you are

Have you noticed that miltary heads do not complain of resources, only the junior men do


Look at this scenario from a Snr management point of view:
NMA calls an emergency meeting with FGN to temporarily suspend strike
they demand instant access to a couple of millions and explain why it is needed
They (not FGN) mobilize the resources into strategizing for PPEs
(not PPE's for everyone, but those on the front line)

They create heat maps of potential areas such as lagos and ensure that special units with all that is needed are spedily set up

Do you honsestly think that all Nigerians will not rally round the doctors to see that this small gesture is not acheived?


And besides, will you say that all Nigerian military men even those at home should have bullet proof vests and armoured cars?
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 1:04pm On Aug 22, 2014
@ ifyclose2

I never finish yet o

4)
If you tell your spouse that you'll prepare eba for dinner
your spouse expects to see eba, soup and meat

If instead your spouse sees eba, rice, pounded yam, plantain, akamu,
all in the same measure on the table ... na confusion be that
no matter your good intentions you cant say that eba was for dinner

The strike by the NMA is too multi faceted plus money come even join am

Everybody could as well go on strike in Nigeria and say that condition, road, wife husband, light are the issues that should be resolved


.. I neva finish yet
HealthRe: Nigeria "Mourns" Dr Adadevoh As Disdain for Nigerian Doctors Escalates by esere826: 12:58pm On Aug 22, 2014
@ ifyclose2

You made your points. I agree with some and query some others
My family tree is laden with doctors, and I have lots of friends that are both doctors and other type of health professionals.
Make i join this matter small.

1)
the nigerian soldier whose neck was cut on youtube video was on a salary of 40K
...harzard of a unique kind

2)
When the ebola thing surfaced, some of us expected the strike to be temporarily called off
to adress the ebola challenge
this would have shown the other nigerians that the strike was driven by principles

At least NMA for negotiate with FGN to set up a small insurance pot for doctors and other health officials
just for the duration of the ebola issue
..but no, it looked like a good tool to blackmail the FGN, and unwittingly Nigerians
this is really, really worrying

3)
The good doctor is not being praised for risking her life in treating Patrick Sawyer
No,..she's being praised for being intelligent enough to restrict his movement thereby saving Nigeria
from what would have been a biological catastrophy

You notice that others are not being praised that much. It is not because they are 'lowly' nurses
,..its just that act of intelligence which saved us that is being praised

Now, if the NMA doctors had an emergency meeting and forsook their demands temporartily just for this
they would have been considered heroes too
PoliticsRe: When APC = PDP (using Change Management theory) by esere826(op): 12:21pm On Aug 22, 2014
Accepting that APC = PDP

When his anger had subsided
Ola had time to reflect
No matter what he thought of Ribadu, he couldnt in all honesty say that
Ribadu was a retrogressive while Tima Sylvia was a progressive ...Mbanu

You see,
humans are extremely simple beings in need of simple labels
he needed a new label for what was happening in the polity

BARGAIN AND ACCEPTANCE -Ola now resigned to the conclusion that APC = PDP

After accepting this new realization, Ola stopped his unpaid e-warrior taunts of PDP boys
he foccused more on the religious and romance section


Now that Ola is battle weary,
hopefully he'll be more susceptible to some reasoning
which I hope to share with him in the next thread
FamilyRe: Wives Rule Your Marriage by esere826: 12:21pm On Aug 22, 2014
chychy: Submission is very important but there's a thin line between submission and being ridden
Yeah.. i agree with you
a woman should not be ridden by a man
the work is too much

instead, the man should sit back relax and get ridden after a hard days work
I happily submit to this
PoliticsRe: When APC = PDP (using Change Management theory) by esere826(op):
Pendulums are made to swing

Then the tide began to turn slowly
The 'progressively' baptised poiliticians such as FFK were decamping to the PDP
There were also grumbles from people such as Ikimi that Tinibu had a dictatorial proclitivity

..Ola was now begining to question silently the 'progressiveness' of APC


Then something strange happened
Ribadu, the poster boy for APCs "progressive' credential decamped to the retrogressive party PDP

ANGER -Ola couldn't belive it,
"Ribadu must be stupid",
"he cannot be trusted,
"he's got a fickle character"
PoliticsRe: When APC = PDP (using Change Management theory) by esere826(op): 11:22am On Aug 22, 2014
When a Nigerian goat becomes and American goat

The "new PDP" rebels soon decamped and moved into APC, Atiku followed closely behind
All colour of Politicians who had sank the Nigerian ship began to move in drove to rescue the same ship
this time, under the platform of APC
Ola pointed this out with spiteful glee to the PDP paid laptop gang and their unpaid minions

Haba Ola..
My mum once told me that if a Nigerian goat moves to America, it remains a goat
...But this time, an American goat

Ola did not buy this nonsense
DENIAL -Ola rationalised that that the 'retrogressive'stained governors had seen the light and were now 'progressives'


Haba Ola
...na proper denial be this naw
PoliticsRe: When APC = PDP (using Change Management theory) by esere826(op): 11:22am On Aug 22, 2014
All hail the progressives

Ola was happy when APC came into existence from the merger of ACN and CPC
He considered ACN to be a progressive party and was happy to bestow the same consideration
on the APC which had subsumed it
He was constantly on Nairaland as an e-warrior sparring against the PDP Nairaland goons

When the party APC in its maiden visits consulted with IBB and Obasanjo
and emplored their help in rescuing the sinking ship called Nigeria

Ola was a little bit worried about the invitation of 'retrogressives' to the side of a 'progressives'
Ola pushed this aside

...DENIAL -APC was Ola's very progressive party
PoliticsRe: Change Management, PDP, APC, Terrorism And NL Political Foot Soldiers by esere826(op): 11:21am On Aug 22, 2014
PoliticsWhen APC = PDP (using Change Management theory) by esere826(op): 11:19am On Aug 22, 2014
Introduction

I wrote an article here
https://www.nairaland.com/1864112/change-management-pdp-apc-terrorism

the article connects to this, and is an attempt to work my way through socio-political happenings
positing that although APC = PDP, yet they do have some distinct ideological fragments that can be pointed to

To keep it short and simmple without losing the meat, I'll create another thread to draw out some 'ideological' distinctions

I have used a character called Ola which is non-existent to draw out some points
TravelRe: Will My Coming To America Or Uk Make Me Stingy? by esere826: 12:00am On Aug 21, 2014
anonimi: The bottomline however is not to GIVE one's money anyhow to lazy, able bodied relations & friends who will enjoy (on owambes, parties, frolicking etc) the result of one's self-deprivation that resulted in the savings itself.
Better to channel it towards education and health initiatives for clearly under-privileged children towards a better society overall.
over the years
i've learnt not to advice people on the technicality of giving, except they seek such opinion
or I suspect that their actions are ruled by hypnotic fear from which they at least faintly desire to unlock themselves from

some folks actually feel fulfilled only when they hollow themselves out to others
some parents fry akara in order to give their teenage sons money to buy beer so the sons don't suffer from inferiority complex
TravelRe: Will My Coming To America Or Uk Make Me Stingy? by esere826: 4:29pm On Aug 20, 2014
ridimic1: i am intending msc student whose plan is to later settle in the us,i am also a staunch giver(didnt mean to brag ). from what i have gathered is that when you are living abroad ,ur spending is limited and are always proper. a dollar or pound is always meant for something..i also heard people hardly pay tithe and they pay little offerings and all these leading to stingyness..so im asking those in diaspora...will my coming abroad affecting my already built spending nigeria culture, those who are givers ,did it affect you ?becos i dnt wna loose d giving attitude while abroad..thanks
I'm not sure if your ascription of "GIVING" is:
1) meant soley within the christian tradition of church related giving
or
2) if it also encompasses your 'above average' generosity to all (both religious and others)

I'll assume is the second and make suggestions based on this.

You'll learn to be wiser with your money if in the UK...
so you can easilly continue with your giving if you are ready
to deprive yourself of some little comforts.

For example, you can walk instead of taking the bus or train, save on heating, cook always, avoid nigerian foods that are expensive, buy cheap basic clothing etc

But while doing this, avoid using your credit card to sponsor your genorosity.

Along the line, if you have a good source of income (either through God's reward, luck, or smartness) you can then afford to be both generous and spendthrift in luxury
FamilyRe: The Family Section Fun Room!! by esere826: 10:35pm On Aug 19, 2014
shoefreak: Evangelism and missionary talks...
And everything in between

grin
silly me
can't believe that i was actually trying to calculate what's in between evangelism and missionary
FamilyRe: The Family Section Fun Room!! by esere826: 10:16pm On Aug 19, 2014
205 pages
wow... i wonder what's going on here
HealthRe: Dr. Ameyo Adadevoh Dies From Ebola Virus by esere826: 10:14pm On Aug 19, 2014
May God bless the family of this woman
may she be given a posthumous national award
may her seeds forever be elevated in our country and beyond
Thanks to her enlightenment, this woman saved us

now, let me go away and weep
PoliticsRe: Change Management, PDP, APC, Terrorism And NL Political Foot Soldiers by esere826(op): 10:55am On Aug 19, 2014
Semi conclusion

The beauty of the change management model is that it helps us
in understanding where people are emotianlly positioned

when you understand this,
you are better placed in dealing with them appropriately
or exploiting them if you wish

I'll now try to create another thread
to give us a fresh perspective on APC vs PDP
drawing on the change management concept
PoliticsRe: Change Management, PDP, APC, Terrorism And NL Political Foot Soldiers by esere826(op): 10:53am On Aug 19, 2014
Acceptance of change

As the bombings went on,
we began to consider how we could bargain with the Haramites
and like GEJ said,
We re now living with the knowledge that terrorism
is now part of our national ife

You can do a further search on the concept in google
PoliticsRe: Change Management, PDP, APC, Terrorism And NL Political Foot Soldiers by esere826(op): 10:53am On Aug 19, 2014
Resistance to change

At first when Boko Haram started with their bombings and suicide bombing
the Nigerian government and people were in denial
"we love our lives so much" we said.
"we cant kill ourselves"

as the bombing went on, we got upset
"it must be those northerners that don't want a southerner to rule"
"it is the PDP"
"it is the APC"
"it is an islamic agenda"
"it is because GEJ is weak"

All of this anger whipped up sentiments and helped
in aligning us with the different political parties
PoliticsRe: Change Management, PDP, APC, Terrorism And NL Political Foot Soldiers by esere826(op): 10:53am On Aug 19, 2014
stages of grief

In change management, there is a model we call the 4 (or 5) stages of grief.
It goes like this:

1) Denial
2) Anger
3) Bargaining
4) Depression
5) Acceptance


In summary, the model suggests that when there is a sudden change,
people first resist, then if they realise that they are helpless in stopping the change,
they try to make the best of the situation



The stages don't always come in that order.
And in some complicated scenario, you might find different stages running in parrallel


I'll give an example of this stages using Nigeria and Boko Haram

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