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Introduction This is the 3rd and final part of my threads trying to show that APC = PDP while in the same breadth, trying to salvage some fundamental differences Part 1: https://www.nairaland.com/1864112/change-management-pdp-apc-terrorism Part 2: https://www.nairaland.com/1868740/when-apc-pdp-using-change |
ty444: Verses from the bible are begining to shake my previous beliefs,was christ actually created or was he ith God almighty since time begining?a passage in the bible declared christ as the firstborn of Gods creation,but the book of john describes him as the word who has been with God since the begining,was christ created or was he since time immemorial.https://www.nairaland.com/1797193/attempt-coceptualize-differentiate-betwee-god |
Blockus: She suspected.. That is grounds to Quarantine him.we're back to why i called her intelligent from the level of argument displayed by some doc on this thread i suspect that such 'intellectual' curiosity to 'suspect' is not common place |
Blockus: Let me just say this..nope thats not the way i heard it happened 1) she suspected >> 2) restrained him based on this >> 3) then confirmed it 1) and 2) are the key Once 3) was achieved, almost anybody would seek to quarantine him |
phantom: abeg no vex. I no fit argue with you.you obviously are UNINFORMED. don't take it the hard way.ok naw if this statement is what makes u feel better,..enjoy Hope you go places with such talk |
phantom: please don't tell me that.You are correct in this ^^^ ooo but the issue at hand is the NMA strike (I have assumed that you are a doctor) 1) Are the nurses and other health professionals happy with you guys? 2) If they increase your salary to 2million a month will you guys drop the strike action and forget about the ammenities you're fighting for? 3) If after increasing your salary to 2 million, they also increase the salary of other health profs. to 2 million or more will you guys embark on another strike? ....think carefully about this from the perspective of the wider Nigerian doctors viewpoint maybe it will provide some clue |
phantom: she kept doing her job till she died. has it not ended in "eyahh" "pity""so sad""she was brave","you died so that we may live","you are an icon","god bless you sister"I have suggested what government should do https://www.nairaland.com/1858891/love-thine-neighbour-thine-self and i know what i'll do if I ever meet her kids or husband |
phantom:Phantom, phantom, phantom Have you noticed that no one on this thread is supporting the government? In fact, you'd be appreciated if you go over to germany where GEJ's security is low key and take him out If you swat a tsetse fly perched on a man's scrotum you'll have the man to contend with and not the fly ..thats the reason for the mentally deranged nigerians you laugh at try hard to decompose issues into its various strains |
egift: This lousy theory is what PDP always promote because everyone knows they have failed Nigerians. Be Patriotic, send PDP back to the drawing board to reconsider whose interests to protect (Nigerian masses OR greed cabals).In the next thread, I'll try to pschoanalyse your point of view. please make sure to read it ....Cheers |
Make i conclude go siddon Jesus tok say if salt looses its saltiness then its no good and should be thrown away 2015, you can throw out Goodluck, and after that the next president too but for now, when we faced an emergency, and doc-o-tor who still receives salary turned their backs for a "noble" reason then anger will naturally rise up against doc-o-tor and thats why the salt was thrown away |
phantom: please go and seat down. I am not interested in this your epistle/PhD thesis.Wait naw u're a gentle and intelligent man and should be interested in PhD thesis Would you rather that I dont argue the points and just say aye or nay |
@ ifyclose2 5) I said that I have always been surrounded by folks from the medical profession This is how the argument has always gone: The doctors complain that they spent so much time at university studying the pharmacists retort that they also spend long time studying and that whereas a doctor can only take one life at a time in error they (pharmacists) can take the lifes of hundreds at a go in error Other 'medical' fields feel slighted that they are looked down on by even the most junior of doctors I mean it this thread, someone made reference to the nurse running away derogratilly such putting down is typical No wonder the JOHESU group is anti NMA |
phantom: esere please stop. you ain't making sense.Mbanu i wont stop The OP suggests that all Nigerians are ganging up against doctors If this is true, let's try to unearth the reasoning behind this |
phantom: how do you want doctors to fight Ebola without PPEs?You're probabably a doctor and maybe a junior one if you are Have you noticed that miltary heads do not complain of resources, only the junior men do Look at this scenario from a Snr management point of view: NMA calls an emergency meeting with FGN to temporarily suspend strike they demand instant access to a couple of millions and explain why it is needed They (not FGN) mobilize the resources into strategizing for PPEs (not PPE's for everyone, but those on the front line) They create heat maps of potential areas such as lagos and ensure that special units with all that is needed are spedily set up Do you honsestly think that all Nigerians will not rally round the doctors to see that this small gesture is not acheived? And besides, will you say that all Nigerian military men even those at home should have bullet proof vests and armoured cars? |
@ ifyclose2 I never finish yet o 4) If you tell your spouse that you'll prepare eba for dinner your spouse expects to see eba, soup and meat If instead your spouse sees eba, rice, pounded yam, plantain, akamu, all in the same measure on the table ... na confusion be that no matter your good intentions you cant say that eba was for dinner The strike by the NMA is too multi faceted plus money come even join am Everybody could as well go on strike in Nigeria and say that condition, road, wife husband, light are the issues that should be resolved .. I neva finish yet |
@ ifyclose2 You made your points. I agree with some and query some others My family tree is laden with doctors, and I have lots of friends that are both doctors and other type of health professionals. Make i join this matter small. 1) the nigerian soldier whose neck was cut on youtube video was on a salary of 40K ...harzard of a unique kind 2) When the ebola thing surfaced, some of us expected the strike to be temporarily called off to adress the ebola challenge this would have shown the other nigerians that the strike was driven by principles At least NMA for negotiate with FGN to set up a small insurance pot for doctors and other health officials just for the duration of the ebola issue ..but no, it looked like a good tool to blackmail the FGN, and unwittingly Nigerians this is really, really worrying 3) The good doctor is not being praised for risking her life in treating Patrick Sawyer No,..she's being praised for being intelligent enough to restrict his movement thereby saving Nigeria from what would have been a biological catastrophy You notice that others are not being praised that much. It is not because they are 'lowly' nurses ,..its just that act of intelligence which saved us that is being praised Now, if the NMA doctors had an emergency meeting and forsook their demands temporartily just for this they would have been considered heroes too |
Accepting that APC = PDP When his anger had subsided Ola had time to reflect No matter what he thought of Ribadu, he couldnt in all honesty say that Ribadu was a retrogressive while Tima Sylvia was a progressive ...Mbanu You see, humans are extremely simple beings in need of simple labels he needed a new label for what was happening in the polity BARGAIN AND ACCEPTANCE -Ola now resigned to the conclusion that APC = PDP After accepting this new realization, Ola stopped his unpaid e-warrior taunts of PDP boys he foccused more on the religious and romance section Now that Ola is battle weary, hopefully he'll be more susceptible to some reasoning which I hope to share with him in the next thread |
chychy: Submission is very important but there's a thin line between submission and being riddenYeah.. i agree with you a woman should not be ridden by a man the work is too much instead, the man should sit back relax and get ridden after a hard days work I happily submit to this |
Pendulums are made to swing Then the tide began to turn slowly The 'progressively' baptised poiliticians such as FFK were decamping to the PDP There were also grumbles from people such as Ikimi that Tinibu had a dictatorial proclitivity ..Ola was now begining to question silently the 'progressiveness' of APC Then something strange happened Ribadu, the poster boy for APCs "progressive' credential decamped to the retrogressive party PDP ANGER -Ola couldn't belive it, "Ribadu must be stupid", "he cannot be trusted, "he's got a fickle character" |
When a Nigerian goat becomes and American goat The "new PDP" rebels soon decamped and moved into APC, Atiku followed closely behind All colour of Politicians who had sank the Nigerian ship began to move in drove to rescue the same ship this time, under the platform of APC Ola pointed this out with spiteful glee to the PDP paid laptop gang and their unpaid minions Haba Ola.. My mum once told me that if a Nigerian goat moves to America, it remains a goat ...But this time, an American goat Ola did not buy this nonsense DENIAL -Ola rationalised that that the 'retrogressive'stained governors had seen the light and were now 'progressives' Haba Ola ...na proper denial be this naw |
All hail the progressives Ola was happy when APC came into existence from the merger of ACN and CPC He considered ACN to be a progressive party and was happy to bestow the same consideration on the APC which had subsumed it He was constantly on Nairaland as an e-warrior sparring against the PDP Nairaland goons When the party APC in its maiden visits consulted with IBB and Obasanjo and emplored their help in rescuing the sinking ship called Nigeria Ola was a little bit worried about the invitation of 'retrogressives' to the side of a 'progressives' Ola pushed this aside ...DENIAL -APC was Ola's very progressive party |
I have continued the thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/1868740/when-apc-pdp-using-change |
Introduction I wrote an article here https://www.nairaland.com/1864112/change-management-pdp-apc-terrorism the article connects to this, and is an attempt to work my way through socio-political happenings positing that although APC = PDP, yet they do have some distinct ideological fragments that can be pointed to To keep it short and simmple without losing the meat, I'll create another thread to draw out some 'ideological' distinctions I have used a character called Ola which is non-existent to draw out some points |
anonimi: The bottomline however is not to GIVE one's money anyhow to lazy, able bodied relations & friends who will enjoy (on owambes, parties, frolicking etc) the result of one's self-deprivation that resulted in the savings itself.over the years i've learnt not to advice people on the technicality of giving, except they seek such opinion or I suspect that their actions are ruled by hypnotic fear from which they at least faintly desire to unlock themselves from some folks actually feel fulfilled only when they hollow themselves out to others some parents fry akara in order to give their teenage sons money to buy beer so the sons don't suffer from inferiority complex |
ridimic1: i am intending msc student whose plan is to later settle in the us,i am also a staunch giver(didnt mean to brag ). from what i have gathered is that when you are living abroad ,ur spending is limited and are always proper. a dollar or pound is always meant for something..i also heard people hardly pay tithe and they pay little offerings and all these leading to stingyness..so im asking those in diaspora...will my coming abroad affecting my already built spending nigeria culture, those who are givers ,did it affect you ?becos i dnt wna loose d giving attitude while abroad..thanksI'm not sure if your ascription of "GIVING" is: 1) meant soley within the christian tradition of church related giving or 2) if it also encompasses your 'above average' generosity to all (both religious and others) I'll assume is the second and make suggestions based on this. You'll learn to be wiser with your money if in the UK... so you can easilly continue with your giving if you are ready to deprive yourself of some little comforts. For example, you can walk instead of taking the bus or train, save on heating, cook always, avoid nigerian foods that are expensive, buy cheap basic clothing etc But while doing this, avoid using your credit card to sponsor your genorosity. Along the line, if you have a good source of income (either through God's reward, luck, or smartness) you can then afford to be both generous and spendthrift in luxury |
shoefreak: Evangelism and missionary talks...silly me can't believe that i was actually trying to calculate what's in between evangelism and missionary |
205 pages wow... i wonder what's going on here |
May God bless the family of this woman may she be given a posthumous national award may her seeds forever be elevated in our country and beyond Thanks to her enlightenment, this woman saved us now, let me go away and weep |
Semi conclusion The beauty of the change management model is that it helps us in understanding where people are emotianlly positioned when you understand this, you are better placed in dealing with them appropriately or exploiting them if you wish I'll now try to create another thread to give us a fresh perspective on APC vs PDP drawing on the change management concept |
Acceptance of change As the bombings went on, we began to consider how we could bargain with the Haramites and like GEJ said, We re now living with the knowledge that terrorism is now part of our national ife You can do a further search on the concept in google |
Resistance to change At first when Boko Haram started with their bombings and suicide bombing the Nigerian government and people were in denial "we love our lives so much" we said. "we cant kill ourselves" as the bombing went on, we got upset "it must be those northerners that don't want a southerner to rule" "it is the PDP" "it is the APC" "it is an islamic agenda" "it is because GEJ is weak" All of this anger whipped up sentiments and helped in aligning us with the different political parties |
stages of grief In change management, there is a model we call the 4 (or 5) stages of grief. It goes like this: 1) Denial 2) Anger 3) Bargaining 4) Depression 5) Acceptance In summary, the model suggests that when there is a sudden change, people first resist, then if they realise that they are helpless in stopping the change, they try to make the best of the situation The stages don't always come in that order. And in some complicated scenario, you might find different stages running in parrallel I'll give an example of this stages using Nigeria and Boko Haram |
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....... mentally deranged Nigerians. wholeheartedly defending a government that can't provide guns and bullets for its soldiers.