₦airaland Forum

davidylan:
He was the one who told us his butt hurts after 3 rounds of sex every night

So? Why are you people talking about it? I bet many of those shouting and cursing the guy are repressed h0m0sexuals. Homophobes almost always are. Case in point: Ted Haggard, Eddie Long, etc.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

Haters gonna hate. If the guy cared what you people think he wouldn't be talking about his h0m0sexuality in public.

What he does in the privacy of his bedroom, no matter how kinky, is his own business. You guys need to stop looking at others and face your own lives. Afterall its not like he's trying to stick anything up your own backside, is he?

Hmmm. Perhaps we should have voted for this Buhari guy afterall. He seems much less reetarded than GEJ. How come we didn't notice before the elections?

They should give it to him for free if he agrees to take on all the debt. Nitel has been completely run down by successive useless governments. There is hardly anything of value left.

Nija4Life:
It's absurd that a country like Nigeria is crying wolf over a paltry 18,000 Naira minimum wage. How anyone can survive on that amount is beyond me and yet we have state and federal governments moaning about their inability to pay it. If as a nation our govts claim they can't pay it then they might as well close shop because this is getting beyond ridiculous.

Please read my blog for this and other issues discussed: http://apenandaheart..com/

You're living in lala land. The reality is the government simply cannot afford to pay the kind of wages you seem to want without seriously cutting staff (not a bad idea, actually) or seriously increasing taxes. There simply isn't enough money.

If Lagos, one of the richest states is struggling to pay N18,000, how do you expect boondock states like Bauchi and co to cope?

Face facts, Nigeria is a poor country. You can't change that with the stroke of a pen. Instead about whining about low wages, why don't you try and make your government more efficient and less corrupt?

POTUT:
Leave GEJ out of this! He does not make laws, you forgot it was the NA that made the law and GEJ only signed it?

The same NA is composed of people representing people from all parts of the country. Stop this ignorance please, or do you want GEJ to be remembered as the President that refused to sign Bills into law?

Erm, I don't know where you went to secondary school, but it seems you don't understand how your government works.

FYI, the president does make laws. In fact, the majority of bills that become law are written and sponsored by the executive. Its also the president's duty to veto (i.e. refuse to sign)any bill that he believes is not in the interest of the nation.

So what if the wage bill was written by the national assembly (and I'm not even sure if that's true), its still GEJ's job to read the thing and use his brain to figure out whether its good or bad before he puts his signature.

Only a m0r0n signs something when he'd not sure what it means.

Don't worry. The feedeefee people will find a way to frustrate any interference with their money-stealing business. The law isn't worth the paper it's printed on if nobody enforces it.

Just like the wage bill, GEJ probably didn't understand the full implications when he signed it. Once he realizes that the law could embarass him and his party people, that will be the end of FOI.

blank:
@ Evil Brain, I already pay 22% of my monthly income as tax and u want Fashola to increase taxes, U are really wicked. This is apart from Service charge, VAT, road toll, car park charge, Fuel charge, water charge, agbero charge, etc. Na wah to u o.

In Uk that the effective tax is almost 40%, they don't have to provide their own road, electricity, water, etc. I will soon enter business and take my chances with their silly Tax force (LIRS).

I never said they should increase taxes. Only that higher wages automatically means less money for public works unless you raise taxes. you can't eat your cake and have it.

What they should be doing is trying to reduce the cost of government like Fashola is doing instead of raising salaries. Salary increases are the ultimate form of voodoo economics. They only cause inflation while at the same time reducing the goverment's ability to grow the economy.

Leave salaries where they are and use the money to build roads, railways and provide electricity. Everybody will get richer while earning the same amount. Nigerians are more than capable of lifting themselves out of poverty as long as the economic foundation is sound. We don't need government handouts.

Are all of you people reetarded? Can't you understand simple logic? If you increase salaries without raising taxes, then cuts will have to be made elsewhere. The money isn't going to fall from heaven.

Fashola is the only leader to talk sense since this wage crisis began. Everybody else (including GEJ who caused the problem) seems to be completely clueless. Part of the reason why Lagos state is doing so well is because salaries only take a small percentage of revenues leaving plenty of money to build roads and equip hospitals. Now, thanks to Jonathan, all the states will be more like the useless federal government that spends nearly everything on recurrent expenditure then gives us stuupid excuses for why there's no light.

Its like you people prefer leaders that will tell you lies and use voodoo economics to decieve you. like GEJ that signed the wage bill without making provision to pay the money, what a m0r0n!

Too expensive.

What firmware version is it on? Fat or Slim? What size HDD? How much without the PES? (I already have it and its rubbish.)

I'm really only interested in getting the base console without the pads or the game. Gimme a more realistic price then we'll talk.

Cheers.

Mobinga:
My God. By Jupiter, what a hideous girl.

https://www.thenetng.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/BBA-Karen.jpg

You're not seeing her real inner beauty.  (Hint: try looking 8 inches lower.)

larrysng:
Hi NLanders, lately i have been thinking of the two major religious in the world i.e is christianity and islam, which one is the true way 4rm God

The reason while i am asking is because of the kind of hatred the two religious practioners have shown to theirselves. From islamic banking, marriage/dating issues, boko haram, post election violence against christians by muslim in north and so many other issues that has caused enemity btw these two religion.

Can someone tell me what is wrong in christianity that the muslim think is unholy vice versa.

Why are you narrowing your choices to just those 2 religions? Have you considered sun worship? Unlike Allah and Yahweh, the sun is a real and tangible thing. You can see it and feel it. It nourishes all life on earth. It has the power to destroy us all and without it, none of us would be alive. Its strange that more people aren't sun worshippers.

If like the christians and muslims your prefer the imaginary type of god, you should also look at the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Unlike those crazy christians and muslims, FSM worshippers are the most peaceful and least hateful of all faiths. No pastafarian has ever killed anybody because of his beliefs.
http://www.venganza.org/

Henry120:
You just get tired of some nigerians at-times, especially some of them on nairaland. The same justice uwais report, you have been clamouring to be implemented, has now been offered to you, and the best you can say is the president is dumb, clueless, moronic, "the drunken fisherman, is more intelligent than he appears, he seeks to elongate his tenure. The same way a party chieftain(cannot recall the party) on ait news, made a mockery of himself on national t.v, he said "that GEJ godfather obasanjo, failed in his tenure elongation and GEJ would also fail in his own tenure elongation". Without any credible argument, he chose to blatantly ignore the part, were president jonathan said he would not be a "beneficiary", if it comes into law. He(party chieftain) ended with a quote "you can fool some people sometimes, but you cannot fool everybody all the time". No sensible argument as to why he (party chieftain) thinks the bill would be bad for the country. It is the same way many nairalanders who oppose jonathan think. Nigerians please them, you are damned, don't please them, you are still damned.

Its bad for the country because it makes the government even less answerable to the people. The way things are now, governors and the president have to worry about re-election. If they don't perform well, the people can punish them after 4 years by kicking them out of office. (This works in theory at least, the PDP rigging machine is a very effective way around this.) If this ridiculous proposal passes, our leaders will be able to sit back and steal to their hearts content for 7 years after rigging/shooting their way into power. No need to worry about keeping the peasants happy, just make sure your successor doesn't probe you and your are free to be as useless and corrupt as you like.

I wonder why you're are not worried about this attempt to remove one of the few effective checks on a government that is already far too powerful? Perhaps you are one of the few people actually benefiting from government corruption? Or maybe you're just not intelligent enough to understand the consequences of what you're supporting.

When I read some of these Nairaland threads, I fear for my country. The level or reetardation is frightening!

ola_pluto:
Absolutely spot-on @OP. I remember when this new first broke out. Every pundit, commentator and what nots on BBC and other media houses were searching for links with Islam. Some said a group related to Al-Qaeda have claimed responsibility. Others said the Muslims are now protesting Norway's NATO links, others said Gadaffi is suspect. I'm not surprised the 'Murdoch Puppet' already made an headline accusing Al-Qaeda.
Its a shame on the western media. They no longer have class. I remember BBC once called Nelson Mandela a 'terrorist', but today, a statue of Mandela is in Westminster. Such is the way the western media act. If you're with them, you're a dove, an angel. If you're against, you're a monster, terrorist, etc.

They assumed that it was Muslims because Muslim fundamentalists are responsible for the majority of the senseless violence that goes on nowadays. There's no excuse for what they did but then a man who keeps getting caught stealing shouldn't be surprised when people check his pockets whenever anything goes missing.

Anyway, its stuupid to be condemning the "western media" for something a useless gossip rag like the Sun published. Did you expect journalistic excellence from them before? You can't really fault the media because not all of them jumped to the same conclusion and those that did corrected the error as soon as they found out about it.

Also, the South African ANC lead a campaign of bombing during the apartheid era. One of their bombs killed 19 people and injured over 200. Nelson Mandela was the groups leader at the time and was therefore, by definition, a terrorist; the BBC was correct. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Evil Brain:
I'm not claiming that he's not a real Christian, I'm saying that the killings were not motivated by religion therefore, OP's attempt to relate them to Islamic fundamentalism is a logical fallacy.

Obviously, Christians are just as capable of terrible acts of violence as members of any other religion. There are Christian killers and Muslim armed robbers and devil worshipping murderers.  A violent islamist is not the same as a Muslim who just happens to kill someone. Even Nidal Malik Hasan (the Fort Hood shooter) isn't officially considered to be a terrorist despite him being a muslim and killing 13 american soilders.

The thing is that nowadays its extremely rare for any one to cite Christianity as a justification for killing. Anders Breivik killed because of his crazy political views not because he thought the bible told him to. He wasn't recruited or radicalised in a church. He's not known to be in contact with any "radical Christian pastors" (if such people exist), and there were few references to Christianity in his writings. He is not known to have harmed anybody because of their religion: his attack was specifically targeted at government workers and members of the Norwegian Labour party.

The guy even stated in his manifesto that the killings were a sacrifice to gain publicity for his book. No mention of Jesus, or the Holy Ghost or heaven. Compare that to your average Islamic militant. They wear turbans and sing in Arabic and count prayer beads. They make "martyr videos" where they talk of Allah's glorious reward awaiting them in paradise. They encourage other Muslims (note: only Muslims) to join the "jihad". They kill "infidels" and fellow muslims who aren't radical enough for them.

If Breivik had done anything remotely similar to these things, It would be a completely different matter, but he didn't. Instead, it seems he's just your ordinary, garden-variety crazy person. That he happens to be a Christian is completely irrelevant.

I posted this in another thread in the religion section. Seems I should have come here first.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-719777.0.html#msg8779653

alaper:
Classical 'True scotsman' fallacy

I'm not claiming that he's not a real Christian, I'm saying that the killings were not motivated by religion therefore, OP's attempt to relate them to Islamic fundamentalism is a logical fallacy.

Obviously, Christians are just as capable of terrible acts of violence as members of any other religion. There are Christian killers and Muslim armed robbers and devil worshipping murderers.  A violent islamist is not the same as a Muslim who just happens to kill someone. Even Nidal Malik Hasan (the Fort Hood shooter) isn't officially considered to be a terrorist despite him being a muslim and killing 13 american soilders.

The thing is that nowadays its extremely rare for any one to cite Christianity as a justification for killing. Anders Breivik killed because of his crazy political views not because he thought the bible told him to. He wasn't recruited or radicalised in a church. He's not known to be in contact with any "radical Christian pastors" (if such people exist), and there were few references to Christianity in his writings. He is not known to have harmed anybody because of their religion: his attack was specifically targeted at government workers and members of the Norwegian Labour party.

The guy even stated in his manifesto that the killings were a sacrifice to gain publicity for his book. No mention of Jesus, or the Holy Ghost or heaven. Compare that to your average Islamic militant. They wear turbans and sing in Arabic and count prayer beads. They make "martyr videos" where they talk of Allah's glorious reward awaiting them in paradise. They encourage other Muslims (note: only Muslims) to join the "jihad". They kill "infidels" and fellow muslims who aren't radical enough for them.

If Breivik had done anything remotely similar to these things, It would be a completely different matter, but he didn't. Instead, it seems he's just your ordinary, garden-variety crazy person. That he happens to be a Christian is completely irrelevant.

LagosShia:
the norwegian who used bomb and live-bullets on friday evening to kill more than 90 of his fellow countrymen wanted a "crusade against the spread of Islam".

this is a man who unlike muslims,his country is not under israeli occupation and his country is not under american invasion.his people are not killed during wedding ceremonies as american planes kill muslims in afghanistan.his country is not ruled by an oppressive regime backed by foreigners as muslims countries are ruled by oppressive regimes backed by the west.

my point is:who is really the "terrorist" and who really has a "violent nature"?

who is fighting in defense and who is attacking who?

What, are you suggesting that this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.

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1. Minimum Wage: Fail. He stuupidly signed the bill into law without making provision to pay the money, considering the states' ability to pay or the possible effects on the economy. A good example of a foolish populist action that may seriously harm Nigeria in the long term. A man who makes such bad decisions just to win an election is not fit to be president.

2. Cost of Running the Government: More fail. The government is now bigger and more expensive than its ever been in Nigeria's history. He's created even more ministries and appointed more useless aides/advisers/assistants, completely ignoring the advice of those who have more sense than him. Clearly, his political needs are more improtant to him than the long-term interests of the nation.

3. Boko Haram: Epic fail. The government's response to this problem seems to be to send the police and army to harrass innocents in Bornu. They have no idea who the Boko Haram ringleaders are. They don't know where they get their esplosives from or who the bomb-makers are. They don't know anything. It took almost 2 years to charge Mohammed Yusuf's killers and we haven't heard anything about the arrestng the dozens of police and army personel who can be clearly seen shooting unarmed, defenseless people on youtube in the aftermath of the first Boko Haram riots. And what's worst is the way Mr. President keeps on demoralizing the nation by making senseless statements at every opportunity. And almost every day, more bombs go off. Its hard to imagine how he could possibly have done worse.

4. Quality of the FEC. Generally poor. A few bright lights, but there are too many known incompetents and people with dubious corruption records. But the biggest problem is not the quality of the ministers, but their number. There are simply too many ministers. There is simply no justification for having over 40 ministers. There is no justification for creating even more ministries on top of the already huge number we had before. Its a shocking waste of our thinly stretched resources. The money used to pay all these useless bureaucrats who add no value to our economy can be better spent building schools or hospitals or roads or railways. Mr. President is fully aware of this, but it seems he doesn't care.

And that is my biggest problem with Jonathan. It seems that everytime he's had to choose between his political interests and the needs of the nation, he always choses politics. That is something all of us should be worried about.

claremont:
Atheists are simply people who ask for clear incontrovertible evidence that God exists irrespective of whether this God is being painted in a positive or negative light by any of the Abrahamic faiths. In the absence of any evidence, then it is simply an indulgence in irrationality to believe in the irrational!

Seconded.

Proof or STFU!

vicenzo:
@agu-tuedo.

I agree with you on this one,christian doctrines has too many faults and cannot stand the test of logic and reasoning,even the christians know this,the catholics will always say-give us your child and we will make him a catholic forever,what  they do to these children who will eventually become adults is brainwashing.

I am an igbo,i was born into christianity like most igbos,but right from when i became a teenager,i began asking questions,questions that nobody would answer,it was obvious that unlike my siblings,i wasn't going to be brainwashed,but my parents would not give it up,they kept pushing,only to meet resistance from me,this is the way of christianity,it is not  a choice  to most of it's converts,they were born into it,brainwashed to take every teaching without questioning,there is not much difference between these converts and those islamic extremist called boko haram,the only difference is the incidence of birth,for if they were born to islamic parents,they would still not ask questions.

I am not an atheist,i believe in the existence of one supreme God,but i don't believe in the attributes,most religions assign to this supreme being.

I've gone one step further, I'm a full blown atheist now. I can't keep lying to myself, I just can't.

I have a special interest in this topic since I'm a doctor and I actually searched around the internet a few years ago looking for proper studies on this issue. Slightly less than half of the available studies showed a significant beneficial effect in patients who were being prayed for and the remainder showed no benefit or even a slight adverse effect.

Further digging revealed that the majority of the studies which found a positive effect were sponsored by religious groups or organizations closely related to religious groups. Also many of these studies had serious flaws. Some had unacceptably small sample sizes, many were not properly blinded (either the patients or those conducting the study knew which patients were being prayed for and which ones weren't.) Others had problems with randomization and patient selection (less ill patients were cherry-picked and put into the prayer group to skew the results). And at least one of the studies was an outright fraud.

The majority of independent studies found no statistically significant differences between patients who were prayed for and those who weren't as long as the patient was unaware of the prayers. Patients who knew they were being prayed for tended to do better but this can be explained by the placebo effect. A few studies showed a statistically significant difference in outcomes (some of the prayed for patients actually had worse outcomes) but this is also to be expected due to the nature of randomized trials. The best available study is the 2006 STEP (Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer) which suggested that people who received prayers were slightly worse off.

Unfortunately its very easy to doctor the results of these studies to say exactly what you want which is what a lot of religious groups have been doing. A good example is the Pfizer Trovan study of 1996 (the one that killed and injured hundreds of children in Kano). Pfizer wanted to show that their drug was better than the standard treatment for meningitis (ceftriaxone) so they funded a study to compare a group of children treated with the standard drug with another group treated with Trovan. The problem is that the children who received the standard drug were only given half the normal dose. Pfizer wanted to "prove" that their drug was better so they designed a study that could only have had that outcome. If not for the outcry over the deaths, nobody would have known about the fraudulent nature of the "research"

Long story short, prayers don't work the way pastors/imams claim they do. But knowing that somebody that someone is praying for you can help.
http://home.exetel.com.au/h2bh/life/ipstudies.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer

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I was at work through out the weekend and just came home to meet my house flooded. My bedroom now smells like a secondary school toilet. There's dirty nylon bags and la casera bottles everywhere.

Apparently this used to happen all the time until the Fashola government cleared the nearby canal a few years ago. But since then people have managed to block it enough for flooding to start happening again. One of my neighbours acually threw a wet matress into the canal this morning while at the same time complaining about the flood.

So I propose a three pronged solution.
1. Clear the existing drainages.
2. Build newer and better ones.
3. Post armed policemen to every street with strict orders to shoot anybody who throws a pure water bag, empty bottle or any form of garbage on the street, in the drainages or in a place where it is llikely to end up in the drainages.

Those basterdss are directly responsible for the terrible state my house is in now. I hope they all die of cholera. Amen.

Abeg o you guys, we need religion. If all those pastors, imams and dibias become unemployed there'll surely be a huge rise in burglaries, armed robberies and social strife.

The boys need jobs or else they'll turn to crime to feed themselves. Come to think of it most of them already do crime to feed themselves.

Kossy04:
For the records, my father was the ONLY innocent one here. That igbo b.a.s.t.a.r.d's father was encouraging his son not to give me back my money, even when it was obvious that he hid the fact that what he sold to me was spoilt before he sold it. I had witnesses, and they knew it just as well as I did. I can't get justice from the police, those b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s had been bribed, and I will NEVER pay for justice, NEVER!!! This is not about the money, it's about the feeling that I'm being taken very lightly. I have to prove a point. I did tell him I will kill him, and I MEANT EVERY WORD! But I have alternate ways to achieve my aim. I will return for them once this is sorted out, and I will not end until I've done what I will to do. I'm sure this issue came up because I'm a novice. Once I have it sorted out I will emerge more experienced, and then I shall return for them, WITH EXPERIENCE!!

Why are you wasting your time with all this juju nonsense? What happened to sending plain, old-fashioned hired killers to deal with your enemies? And as for your hypnopompic hallucinations, a course of antipsychotic drugs should clear that right up. No need to slaughter any chickens.

Na superstition dey kill us for this country.

Yinkay:
Bible says,spare the cane,spoil the child,

talknafree:
NOW HERE COME A GENERATION OF INDISCIPLINE, CORRUPT AND IMMORAL CHILDREN


We are Africans for crying out loud and not from the western society

Most of us with good character and high moral standard today achieved it all with the help of "uncle koboko or mr kpankere"

Not saying you need to use it on the child (always or otherwise) but the sight of seeing it surely cares the child and most times translates in him/her acting right.


20years from now they will regret this "law" they have passed because they will start hearing thing like this from their grand children;

"gerrout dad you s-u-c-k"

"grandma, why are you acting so silly?"

"grandpa, can't you just keep shut and let us concentrate on the tv rather than listening to your crooked voice".


God please save Africans from copy copy

The number of christian talibans on nairaland is getting scary. Thank god nigeria is a secular country.

Why don't they protest in front of their local government? Why don't they take the casket to Timipre Silva's house? Or Goodluck Jonathan's?

I can understand protesting about pollution and gas flaring, but to expect an oil company to do the work of the government is just stu.pid. These people should stop acting silly and start blaming those who are actually responsible for the lack of development in their communities. The politicians.

Negro_Ntns:
Vava,

You see sometimes in our selfish interest to push agendas we neglect feelings on the other side and underestimate the response coming from the other side.

Pork consumptioon is forbidden in the scriptures but white man made it popular because it was cheap to produce and generate good revenue. So now it is customary for christians to believe pork is part and parcel of their faith, but alas it is not.

It is even more gratifying to use it (pork) as a weapon of propaganda attack on Islam.

Practicing Jews will not allow you to touch any of their garment or personal effects and belongings with pork - that's just to give you a peek into how far they distance from it. But they will give you money to buy it and eat or produce it for other christians to consume. You will of course pay interest on the loan.

Islamic bank will not loan you the money pperiod!

Between the two, I'd stick with Islamic banking.

Not only is there an element of health safeguards but also of religious and spiritual security from deliberately consuming what alkl the three scriptures forbid.


So this is why I resonded with the LovePeddler scenario. It was a repulsive resonse but it was meant to get you thinking instead of depending on my rationale for the obvious reason.

Sorry O, but everything you said about christians and pork is complete rubbish. Maybe you should ask a christian first or read the bible for yourself to find out what it actually says.

Back on topic: I don't have a problem with someone establishing a full blown sharia/islamic bank as long as they do it with private money and the government is not involved. The banking rules and regulations should not have any reference to any specific religion.

If the government is going to promote a religion above others, then it must be my religion: Sango worship. All you unbelievers are just a bunch of infidels.